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Posted: 12/4/2006 11:29:27 AM | One of my pet peeves, is junk science. "I know someone who..." does not constitute scientific evidence.
A lot of this bad science comes from something published in "The Lancet" in 1998, a study involving only 12 patients that touched off a huge health scare in Britain. In the study no causal link was given between ASD and the vaccine. The paper proposed links between gastrointestinal symptoms and developmental disorders and the MMR vaccine.
There are MANY MANY MANY cases. I too know of a mother who swears her child fell ill at 12 months after he got his shots..and never recovered. He was later diagnosed autistic. Up until then he had been starting to talk and even feeding himself with a spoon. He got sick for a few days and was never the same. A mother knows.
A mother knows only her child. This falls under the normal Autism diagnosis model. This is known as anecdotal evidence. Scientific method. Hypothesis, study, predictable and provable results.
Please, dont think 'doctor knows best' These days with so many books and wesites available we owe it to our children to inform ourselves about their medical treatments and vaacinations. Some parents do choose to forgo vaccination, or delay their scheduling.
Along with the good information on the web, there is an equal or perhaps even greater amount of crap. A lot of the crap coming from people who want to sell you something, such as the Lindamood Bell Learning system which claims to be an effective "treatment" for autism.
The stuff I've been reading it the disease itself.. It would also explain why in countries where vaccinations are not given that autism is still developing.. Mind you though also at a lower rate based on the population then in countries where vaccinations are given..
Using this as an indicator would give a false statistical sampling. Countries that do not vaccinate also have less facilities and staff for diagnosis. A section of the spectrum that is higher functioning might be easily overlooked in this scenario.
Using normal development until the age of 1 is not indicator either. Most cases are diagnosed when parents begin to notice something is wrong, usually between 12 to 36 months. It is far more rare for parents to notice signs before 6 months. Brain scans of people with autism have shown abnormal differences in several particular areas of the brain, including those responsible for emotion and social relations.
Autism Spectrum Disorders will appear on an average in 3.4 of every thousand children. This is lower than the rate of mental retardation, but higher than Cerebral Palsy, hearing or vision loss. Studies of twins have shown that in identical twins there is about a 75% rate of both twins having autism, while in non-identical twins this occurs about 3% of the time. The inheritance pattern is complex and suggests that a number of genes are involved. The increase in reported cases autism is at 10-17%.
Since Fragile X was mentioned... ASD tends to occur more frequently than expected among individuals who have certain other medical conditions, including Fragile X syndrome, congenital rubella syndrome (usually not seen in countries that vaccinate), tuberous sclerosis, and untreated phenylketonuria (PKU). Some harmful substances ingested during pregnancy also have been associated with an increased risk of autism, specifically, the prescription drug thalidomide. The CDC has a collaborative autism research network to explore possible causes, looking into things like infection and immune function, hormones and reproductive factors, genetic factors, gastrointestinal factors, socio-demographic factors.
There is a new study, just published in the current issue of the 'Proceedings of the National Academy of Science,' "an international team of scientists led by Pat Levitt, Ph.D., has identified a functional genetic variant significantly associated with autism, which appears to double the risk for autism and may explain some of the ancillary symptoms associated with the disorder. The group of scientists examined a gene called MET tyrosine kinase and found a strong association between autism and a variant of the gene that appears to result in a decreased production of the protein it encodes."
In August, researchers at the University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine discovered that "children with autism showed signs of abnormal blood-vessel function and damaging levels of oxidative stress compared to healthy children. The children with autism possessed levels of biochemicals that indicate the presence of constricted blood vessels via the endothelium (the cells that line vessels) with a higher tendency to form clots (through cells called platelets)." This study also shows that in autism patients there can be behavioural improvement through anti-oxident therapy to combat free-radicals.
I think the most interesting study published was one that was not an experiment per se, but rather a 'natural experiment.' In Japan they introduced the combined MMR vaccine, which is the suspected culprit, then discontinued it in 1993, opting for separate immunizations. "The incidence of all autistic spectrum disorders (ASD), and of autism, continued to rise after MMR vaccine was discontinued. The incidence of autism was higher in children born after 1992 who were not vaccinated with MMR than in children born before 1992 who were vaccinated. The incidence of autism associated with regression was the same during the use of MMR and after it was discontinued." This study involved 30K children, by far the largest sampling. "The significance of this finding is that MMR vaccination is most unlikely to be a main cause of ASD, that it cannot explain the rise over time in the incidence of ASD, and that withdrawal of MMR in countries where it is still being used cannot be expected to lead to a reduction in the incidence of ASD."
That's pretty much the most recent information available. | |
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Posted: 12/4/2006 12:31:23 PM | This is a debate that normally I avoid like the plague... It is the one issue that divides the Autism Community. I have seen parents treat each other horribly because of this one question. I went to a benefit where a parent asked me about it.... When I was less than embrassing with the "mercury Moms" I was made to feel that I just don't care about my child.
Now... I don't have many doubts that vaccinations, thrimerisol... genetics, radio waves, recessive traits carried for generations activated by epigenetics ... may have caused my son's autism.
But I won't follow a group led by attorney's... I have issue with Class Action Lawsuits...
Not all cases are explained by leaky gut, mercury poisoning, genetics, fragile X... so there are most likely many potential factors. Epigenetics is the most frightening. Because it may indicate that something done by grandparents may have an effect on thier great grand children...
I've seen evidence for and against almost every 'cause'.. I honestly don't care about who/what to blame... it does not help my son now. I want to know what causes it... but what I want more, is the best way to help my son now. | |
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Posted: 12/4/2006 3:45:51 PM |
But I won't follow a group led by attorney's... I have issue with Class Action Lawsuits...
Not all cases are explained by leaky gut, mercury poisoning, genetics, fragile X... so there are most likely many potential factors. Epigenetics is the most frightening. Because it may indicate that something done by grandparents may have an effect on thier great grand children...
I've seen evidence for and against almost every 'cause'.. I honestly don't care about who/what to blame... it does not help my son now. I want to know what causes it... but what I want more, is the best way to help my son now.
Oh yes, I am aware of the community vs. the pro cure movement and it's a fascinating debate. On the whole I would have to say I tend to fall on the side of the community that has it with regards to how they seek to be considered or treated, rather than the parents who are in the thick of dealing with it. They fear pre natal testing is a slippery slope towards a eugenics movement, and I would concur with this. The rate is slowly growing of the people afflicted with it, like a lot of other genetic diseases. Can we protect everyone in the world from them? No.
I have kids with ADHD, and I have heard every BS excuse and crap science miracle cure. Don't medicate them, it's a corporate scam from the drug companies, you are not disciplining them enough, give them this supplement, don't let them have any sugar, no red dye, no MSG, the list goes on and on. And because of junk science, everyone assumes they are an authority on my kids treatment. It was not until I learned to tell everyone to shut up, and listened to the scientific evidence and treated my kids accordingly, that I saw permanent results.
It does not matter how the child gets whatever it is, the focus should always be on helping the child. The problem with the debate is that it seeks to blame someone and look for something specific serves to take people's mind off the problem.
Having a child with a handicap is challenging most assuredly, I am in awe of the parents who walk through it, and I can understand them grasping at straws for an explanation of, or a cure for their child's condition. However, I am also aware that a lot of things in life have no reasonable explanation as to their level of fairness or cause and to start or spread information that is wrong does not help the situation. All I can hope for is the application of critical thinking to the issues.
Please remember that many people who are autistic go on to lead successful lives. It's not a terminal disease. This is not a death sentence. It's just difficult for them living in the "normal" (which I find overrated!) world sometimes. They have a big internet presence and have been pretty much since the beginning. Once they learn to cope, they can do very well on their own.
From the letter written to the United Nations, requesting minority status for the autistic community:
People in the autism community have their own way of using language and communication that is different from the general population, is often misunderstood and can cause a bias against us.
Autism spectrum conditions are scientifically proven to be largely genetic and heritable. Many of those on the autism spectrum who have children bear children who are also on the spectrum, this needs to be recognised to avoid the frequency of criticism of autistic parents and discrimination that is suffered as to misunderstanding of the different needs, and communication between family members on the spectrum. | |
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Posted: 12/4/2006 4:07:50 PM | | So much information here. Thanks you guys. I am going to vaccinate my son. I am going to ask the doctor to give me all the information that HE has and ask him to hold off until chase is 2. I am also going to ask about the mercury in the vaccines as that seems to be the biggest concern here. | |
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Posted: 12/5/2006 12:01:06 AM | | According to one of my Psych instructors, the key is that signs of Autism usually shows up in children right around the same time as the infamous vaccine is supposed to be given. Therefore: IT MUST BE THE VACCINE!!!!! In other words, mass hysteria ensures. | |
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Posted: 12/5/2006 12:21:16 AM |
the key is that signs of Autism usually shows up in children right around the same time as the infamous vaccine is supposed to be given. Therefore: IT MUST BE THE VACCINE!!!!! In other words, mass hysteria ensures.
Thats like saying that 9/11 was caused by Osma Bin Laden because he is the most likely suspect that the American Gov could point at... And again Mass Hysteria ensues in capture of this one man, and band of terrorists...
Is the Hysteria right or wrong? There is strong compelling evidence to show the connection between the Vaccines and Autism. Doesn't mean it's 100% correct.. But I wouldn't go accounting it to Mass Hysteria quite yet...
I don't know if it's correct... And I have yet to hear one person say it's Fact... Right now it's a theory. A very strong theory they they have no been able to put to bed yet.. And in all honesty the stuff I've been seeing... The Theory makes allot of sense..
I will never say it's 100% correct... Just as I don't honestly believe Bin Laden is 100% responsible for the 9/11 attacks.. But thats another argument for another forum... | |
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Posted: 12/5/2006 4:11:45 AM | | HAHA you know thats gonna cause another huge debate in this forum now spider lol. But anyways, they haven't been able to prove it, no, but I've been looking at the sites youu guys have given and it seems that although there is no PROOF there is some evidence pointing towards the vaccine and autism. Sorry forgot who posted above spiderham but i don't think its causing mass hysteria, just people beginning to learn what is being put into their children bodies and not just going along blindly with the doctors. | |
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Posted: 12/10/2006 7:09:18 PM | | Considering that the majority of the medical community seem to think it's a bunch of bunk, yes I would call it mass hysteria. | |
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Posted: 12/10/2006 10:05:10 PM | I'm actually taking the Bachelor's of Science in Nursing program...and I had to do a presentation on Vaccinations to a family who believed their children would suffer adverse effects from vaccines....they have also recently decided to vaccinate both their children after my presentation.
While I won't go into too many details unless asked, I can inform you that the odds of anyone developing anything serious from vaccinations are one in a million. Typically, children can develop slight fevers and pain in the location of the injection..however those are treatable with acetaminophen.
As for causing autism..no..it's definitely not likely. | |
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Posted: 12/11/2006 8:47:02 AM | wirenth:
Well I suppose I'll ask here, what are the details of your understanding.. Having an adverse effect is allot different then Autism.. Autism is not a sickness, or an adverse effect. But is a change in the entire system, and stays for life..
Again now. The number of Autism cases being developed are sitting at 1 - 166 or .006% of the kids being born today.. Which according to the US Census there were 4,115,590.. So out of that number roughly 24,000 kids will develop Autism..
Where the vaccinations come into play, is that since Autism all levels of income... All areas of the country... All nationalities.. There needs to be common thread among all of them..
The only large common thread that seems to be come into play is vaccinations we give kids as it's the same no matter where you go.. Now it could be wrong, as it is a Theory.. Not a fact.. But the theory holds enough water that it simply cannot be dismissed.. | |
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Posted: 12/11/2006 9:40:17 AM | I have never really understood this one
Worry about an infantesimal chance of an adverse reaction -v- the very high chance of a complication of any number of preventable childhood illnesses.
Is it not a no brainer?
Perhaps we have become accustomed to not seeing and hearing about complications in childhood diseases, like
SSPE, Blindness, death (measles alone has a mortality rate of around 1 in 3000), deafness, severe mental impairment, ongoing heart and other developmental problems. These major problems manifest at a rate 100s of times higher than even the most outlandish of mercury and autism claims. | |
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Posted: 12/11/2006 4:19:46 PM | allcrackedup: Response MSG 61
To an extent I agree with you.. You don't stop whats been working for the majority for years.. Simply to accomidate the few.. And I myself I have never suggested not to get the Vaccinations done. There is a reason why some of these diseases have literally been eradicated from our society...
However though, the research I've been seeing, and it makes allot of sense, is why do it specifically when they become the YOUNGEST age possible... If you read the guidelines, they say this the Youngest age at which the vaccination can be administered...
Waiting an extra year is not going to kill the child.. If I have another child I know I would like to wait till he is about 2 years of age before giving the the 8-12 month shots. As I, along with allot of other Parents of autistic children noticed a decline in the child's behaviour around that time... And when you go back through everything the only common thread among almost all kids is the vaccination... This is why the link is being made..
Main reasoning I've seen for holding off a year for some of the vaccinations.. Not skipping them, is that the longer the body has a chance to develop on it's own, the less susceptible they will be to being adversely affected by it...
You talk about stuff like measles causing imparment on the child, and your right it can... Yet we purposely infect them with it. A watered down version of it mind you... But still we are giving them the infectious disease in order to build up natural antibodies to it...
So if the immune system of the child at the time of vaccination is not quite up to snuff.. Who's to say that watered down version isn't enough to adversely affect the system, like causing brain disfunction... | |
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Posted: 12/11/2006 7:01:50 PM | | Okay, I might sound stupid but whatever, i need to know. When giving a child a vaccine we are actually giving them the disease? How is this helping them. It builds up the antibodies but how are the children not getting the disease from the shot? | |
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Posted: 12/11/2006 7:35:43 PM | takeu2funkytown:
When you are giving any vaccination... You are giving a watered down version of it. What they do is pull apart the genetic makeup up the virus, and pull out the sequence that allows it to reproduce it self over and over.. And then grow that new version of virus for vaccine purposes.
A virus essentially is living thing that enters the body, enters a cell, reproduces itself, destroys the cell, and in the process replicates itself over and over... And does all this at a rate faster then your body can fight it off. Why you become sick from it.
When we vaccinate people we give them the virus without the ability to reproduce over and over.. Or for a simpler way to look at it. We tie the hands of virus behind it's back, and give the body a chance to gain up on it.. Study it.. And produce a defense suited against it. | |
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Posted: 12/12/2006 3:32:46 AM | Sorry a Virus is not a living thing, it has only partial DNA or RNA, it is incapable of "living" without being in a host cell.
What happens with MMR is a dose of deactivated virus, nothing so flash as Genetic Engineering goes into this process. This causes the bodies natural defences in the case of the MMR mainly B Cells to attack the virus, it does this by recognising the shapes of the protein structures on the outside of the virus and blocking them from locking onto and entering living cells to reproduce. Once the matching shape has been found by the body it remember this shape and if ever a similar pathogen is introduced it can react quickly to it.
There are new generations of viral vaccines coming out all of the time that have nothing in them other than the relevant protein but the method of immunity is the same.
I am not sure if you are aware that the Japanese carried out a study following withdrawal of the MMR that showed that Autism rates increased following its withdrawal. So that obviously shows that the MMR protects against Autism ??? I dont mean that seriously but it is the kind of inference that I see drawn by the Antis the whole time.
As for leaving it to 2 years old, I hope the children of these people do not catch any of these diseases in that time, or are they simply relying on the herd immunity given by all the responsible parents actually having their kids jabbed. If we all did this, the incidence of these diseases in infants would rocket. | |
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Posted: 12/12/2006 4:54:44 AM | | OKay so they give dead cells to the children. How can they be sure that even one full dna cell doesn't enter the vaccine and into your childs body? Has anyone ever heard of this happening? | |
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Posted: 12/12/2006 5:03:31 AM | takeu2funkytown
here is a web site i found on how vaccines works.
it might help you understand how they do it
http://www.immunizationinfo.org/parents/howVaccines_work.cfm | |
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Posted: 12/12/2006 7:16:53 AM | Vaccines are not related to autism but there is controversy as to whether Thimerosal, a mercury based preservative used in children's vaccines, is related to a number of neurological diseases including autism.
In 2004 the US Institute of Medicine (IOM) published an 81 page report exonerating Thimerosal.
http://www.iom.edu/CMS/3793/4705/20155.aspx
Experts Find No Vaccine-Autism Link (Washington Post article)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A36703-2004May18.html
However, all of this is a moot point since most or all of new childrens vaccines no longer contain Thimerosal.
See also:
Link Between Neurodevelopmental Disorders and Thimerosal Remains Unclear
October 1, 2001
http://www8.nationalacademies.org/onpinews/newsitem.aspx?RecordID=10208
There has been much increased reporting of vaccine associated autism, but they are mostly litigation driven. This indicates bias. See:
Vaccine adverse event reporting system reporting source: a possible source of bias in longitudinal studies. Goodman MJ, et al. Pediatrics. 2006 Feb;117(2):387-90.
Medline link:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=retrieve&db=pubmed&list_uids=16452357&dopt=Abstract
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Posted: 12/12/2006 7:58:32 AM | OK, dead = Virus a virus is always dead except when it is in a live host cell
Some of the MMR is deactivated, ie unable to enter cells to replicate itself, some is a active but low level virus, ie can enter cells, can reproduce but is not able to do harm by doing so.
Some kids get a fever, some fear that this is the virus taking hold, it is not, it is the bodies immune response working well.
These vaccines have been used Billions of times, they have saved millions of lives
Measles in a child under 3 will cause death or severe long term metal or physical disability in around 5% of cases.
So weigh up that risk. If I immunise my child has a (even the most liberal of guestimates) .0001% risk of Autism being "triggered" or if I dont it has a 5% risk of death or permenant disability, what is complicated about that | |
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Posted: 12/12/2006 9:07:48 AM | Interesting articles.. I've read them before... And they mainly talk about the Mercury in the vaccinations being ruled out.. Which I fully agree.. Been looking for some pages of the articles I've been seeing..
See when I'm talking the vaccination leading to Autism let me draw it out this way... The research I've been seeing... And also through the introduction of the GF/CF diet it also lends a helping hand to this..
The pages in which you listed the reasons vaccinations were first thought about were due to strains of measles being found in the intestine system of the child.. And so they had to think where such a infection would come from..
This lead back to the vaccinations as measles is not something that simply locates itself in one area of the body, and never expands.. So they had to ask why is it only located in the gut? And no further..
This then led to the idea of defficiant Immune System... Meaning that the virus was introduced into the body, and the immune system was not strong enough to fight it all off before it causeing damage to the developing body. Or in lamen terms at the end of the war between Body and Virus, the Body gave up some territory to get rid of the larger effects of it..
Well this is where GF/CF comes into play because the vaccination attacked the digestive system and caused holes to be produced in the digestive track... Either in the stomach itself, or intestines.. and the Glutien and Casien protiens are able to simply slip through...
These proteins then enter the system in their whole form, with no break down, and for the most part take on a Opiate like effect on the system.. Or causing the child to become high from eating products containing wheat, or 90% of our diet today..
This opiate like effect then stops the brain from developing the way it should... And I've seen so many kids who go onto the diet all of the sudden have a dramatic change in their life that to me this makes allot of sense.. The diet also seems to work in children with ADD and ADHD as they are related..
Well now there are allot of people asking themselves, why is it these problems did not manifest themselves till approx the age of 12-14 months.. And that the advancements their children were having are almost in essence going in reverse...
As it is a theory.. I don't know if it's correct... However I have seen the effects of the diet first had in both my child, and other children like my son. And after doing some personal surveying with other parents they all pretty much noticed the difference in their child about the same time.. Alarm bells started going off at about the age of 12-14 months when things were going the way they should.. and there seemed to be a regression..
And considering they come from different nationalities.. and different income levels.. Different families.. There has to be a more widely common thread then simple Genetic Luck...
There has to be something triggering this gene in these children about that time in their lives to be develop differently.. And the introduction of a virus makes allot of sense, because as mentioned the virus can have some huge side effects on a child... Even Death....
Now again I will mention that I don't suggest not getting the vaccinations of the child, as it has been shown to be good for society at large... However I do believe in waiting till the child is a little older befoe giving. And thus allowing the natural immune system to develop to a point where it can better fend off such a pathogen. | |
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| vaccines=autism?????
Posted: 12/12/2006 2:22:14 PM | I don't think vaccine causes autism. It's more due to genetics. My nephew is autistic, every since he was a baby there was something different but he didn't get diagnosed til after he was 2 years old. It's really hard to diagnose a baby til they are around that age because they could develop slow and it may be just a phase. Autism has different levels from mild autism to severe. I've seen kids that are autistic but you couldn't tell because they talked/behaved well. So perhaps when they were babies they were fine, but it started to progress deeper and slow their language/behavioral skills.
With my nephew, we knew he had autism due to: lack of eye contact, minimal verbal skills, lack of interest in a lot of things. By 12-15months, he was highly interested in a certain object and if that object was taken, he would have behavioral issues. He didn't say daddy til he was 2 in a half years old. Now he's 6 and he knows some words but he would rather not say any.
Some blame vaccines because that is around the age where they start to realize that their child isn't developing as normal. I think the wise thing to do is to just hold off the mmr til 2 yrs old. If this is a concern and you do think your child is not developing normal before reaching 18 months, then you should talk to your doctor. | |
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Posted: 12/12/2006 2:30:35 PM | | i had seperate vacines for my daughter who is now 4 as at that time is was a big concern and im glad i did but she cant have the mumps vacine as it is not available anyware due to high demand i am on waiting list but have been for 2 yrs. She is now covered for life and does not need to have a booster but at about £100 for each vacine it works out expensive but isnt it worth it to know your child is not going to have a long term effect?? | |
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Posted: 12/12/2006 2:43:36 PM | What are the symptoms of mercury poisoning? What are the symptoms of autism? Suprisingly they are much the same.
What has been a major component of vaccinations? Thimerosol. What's a major component of thimerosol? Mercury.
What happened once the government started increasing the frequency and dosages of vaccinations in their recommendations for children? The rates of autism skyrocketed.
What happened once the government started requiring the manufacturers to start getting rid of thimersol from childhood vaccinations? The rates of autism have gone down.
What's happened to alot of children with autism who get chelation therapy to remove heavy metals, including mercury, from their brains? They overcome many of their autistic symptoms.
Do all human bodies naturally get rid of heavy metals like mercury as effectively as each other? NO!! That's why some who get mercury poison will fight it out better than others. Oftentimes when a child gets too much mercury they'll have high fevers as their brains are fighting to get it out of the bloodstream and out of the body. Some people have better immune systems than others.
What has the EPA said about mercury and vaccinations? We were giving the children very unsafe levels of mercury in our rush to get them many, many more vaccinations.
Frankly I think that children need their vaccinations. But they don't need an overdose of them. Unless there is an epidemic I'd suggest waiting til the child is 6 months old for their first shot and then just limit it to one shot per doctor visit. And I would never allow a child to get an immunization unless the titre test had been done first. The MMR shot should also always be broken up into the M, M and R shots. The HMO(s) don't like parents hearing about these kind of recommendations because (1) too many parents won't follow up on making sure their children get proper care and many children will slip through the cracks, (2) its more expensive for the HMO(s) to do it the right way that's best for your child's safety/health. | |
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Posted: 12/12/2006 2:48:22 PM | wanderbaby:
I agree that Genetics has a large part to play in it.. As to why there are allot of cases of multiple Autistic Children in one family.. And now they are starting to think it's a gene passed on through mom due to the number of cases of Multiple children in a family but with different fathers...
However though this Gene, and this where vaccine theory comes in for allot of people... This gene needs a trigger to in order to activate. Or the gene itself is causing the immune system to slow down, and not develop at the same rate as other children... So when the vaccine is given... it becomes a double whammy to the system type thing..
The youngest I've heard of Autism being diagnosed is 18 months.. Mainly because before that age allot of things can simply be attributed to a slow development, and they might simply grow out of it..
However though, and I'll cite my son as an example. My son was standing... walking.. and even starting to form words.. Beyond Ma and Da.. He could say Cookie, and make the connection in his mind.. When calling of his name, he was very responsive.. For the most part he was ahead of his age group in allot of developmental stages..
Even emotionally he would come into the the room, and want to give me a hug. He was very interested in other kids around him.. So his social skills were developing quite well..
Then all of the sudden, he stopped.. It's like some switch was turned off in him. Became a totally different kid.. And I'm not the only one who has reported this.. Many families I know had allot of same things happen to them..
Looking back on it all.. He was a little obsesive about certain toys.. Didn't like change to routine at all.. But not enough that I would of even considered, nor my wife, that there was a behavioural problem with him...
Regardless of what the concesus says... I have witnessed this regression first hand.. And know of quite a few families who have witnessed it to.. And to chalk it up to the child turning 12 months and then the gene simply asserting itself makes very little sense.. There needs to be an environmental factor..
And I could be wrong in thinking it is the vaccines... It could simply be a bad piece of cheese or chicken the kid ate.. But I think it needs to be a much stronger influcense.. And the intro of a virus into the body, before the immune system is capable of fighting it off properly makes allot of sense... | |
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Posted: 12/12/2006 2:52:31 PM | | On each specific child there is no clear cut answer on what caused autism. It's still a big mystery. And please take all my opinions and those of anyone else with a grain of salt. I certainly wish each parent out there all the best luck as they navigate the responsibilities and choices that come in raising children. I especially wish the parents of children with autism all the best too because they're desperate and easy prey for unscrupulous vendors and attorneys who will seek to use their desperation for unhonorable ends. | |
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