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Posted: 3/4/2007 11:23:56 PM | Recent research, has revealed .
That genetic predisposition and the roll that it plays as a factor in disease.
Has been recently reduced to approx. a 3% factor..........
Far from the percentage previously thought...
Put the blame, back into the laps where it rightfully belongs...
Big Pharma | |
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Posted: 3/5/2007 1:45:21 AM | Simone, that was very unfair of you to tell us we don't put the children first. Have you truly read Spiderhams posts. Have you not noticed what is behind the words of many who writte? It is concern for the children. There is one thing about children w/ mental dissabilities, they are all smart, they just show it in different ways.
Funkytown, I knew what I was writting to Spiderham and I also knew how he would answer. I was challenging him and he came back as usual with a good rebutal. I have admiration for him for his dedication.
Spiderham, you are right, I am a carrier. My father's side of the family is plagued w/ mental conditions. It was not until I learned how to truly see Autism in all it's aspects, that I realized my father has a lot of the syptoms. It did not help that I choose a man exactly like my father to marry. So my boys got a double shot of genes. As for you having ADHD or some Autism, I just want everyone to see that one can achieve great heights, no matter the condition.
Have you read about Amanda Biggs? | |
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Posted: 3/5/2007 1:54:05 AM | | Simone, when you talk face to face with a child, teenager or adult w/ Autism, you never mention the A word, they don't realize there is anything wrong with them. They do get annoyed w/ the way we keep trying to change them (even if it's for their own good). | |
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Posted: 3/5/2007 10:39:42 AM | Sorry folks...I guess I am not clear on my point however I will let it go.
However, a lot of people with an ASD do realize they are different, maybe they don't have a label for it, and that they don't have the social skills to interact appropriately with others which leads to fewer freindships and depression. We need to teach them how to appropriately interact with others. I tend to disagree with the statement
Nobody can really speak to this, this is an inference. Yes, they may appear happy in their own world but they are also happy when they are taught using a proper systematic approach that they will make gains with.
This being said, a lot of peer awareness needs to be done in the school system. A greater awareness is needed. | |
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Posted: 5/15/2008 4:08:54 AM | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-kirby/government-concedes-vacci_b_88323.html
My brother and sister had not been given their vaccinations on time. At 5, when they had to get them to enter school they received their immunizations. Within a few months they were diagnosed autistic. They were in church preschool programs and were noted as advanced with normal development. The changes were immediate and severe. I have no doubt that there is a definite link to vaccines and autism. | |
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Posted: 5/15/2008 5:59:28 AM | there are no positive links with vaccines and autism. my friend has a 7yr old son with autism and he developed his autism before injections being given ....he in fact had a seriously high temperature and was convusing......found at a later date he head autism.
my friend has two other children who are not autistic and is pregnant with a fourth. studies prove to some extent that autism is from another gene in the bodys system. look on site national autistic society. | |
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Posted: 5/15/2008 12:22:02 PM | | Vaccines are usually given around the time that autism starts to show so some people link them but there has NEVER been any proof of a connection. | |
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Posted: 5/15/2008 2:03:25 PM | | interesting topic.. my 12 yr old with autism (diagnosed around 2 yrs old) has never been tested for mercury in her system due to vaccines. I do know for a few years there was mercury in the vaccines. I in fact have an allergy to metals (I break out into welts and severe itching when I wear most jewelry and even cosmetics.) There is no diagnosis among my family or her fathers family of mental problems. I wasn't around new chemicals or anything different than my other 3 children. I'm not concerned these days about what caused it in my daughter, doesn't matter if I ever know really: my only concern is how to keep her continuing on a positive growing path. | |
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Posted: 5/15/2008 3:03:19 PM | monkeyann,
I never thought about the metal allergy thing (why, I have no idea). I wonder if there is a connection? My mother has the same metal allergies that you are describing. I guess this calls for a bit of research.
Bing147,
Court cases have ruled that vaccines caused autism in several children, I would consider that proof if the government is actually compensating people for receiving vaccines and developing autism. I wouldn't say NEVER without reading everything included.
Throughout history there have been concerns over vaccines that were deemed wrong until it was discovered by the public that it was definitively correct. When people came out stating that the old polio vaccine caused diabetes they were called crazy and then it was proven. How many years were kids given DTP shots instead of DTaP before it was discovered how dangerous that was? I don't think that it is appropriate to completely discount the idea that these vaccines are causing autism in some cases until it is defintively proven that they are not, which has yet to be seen. | |
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Posted: 5/15/2008 5:40:31 PM | | I only thought of the metal allergy thing, cause all of my life I haven't been able to wear for example a watch without first putting a coating of something like fingernail polish on the metal parts (or letting the watch be so loose I never could tell time anyways lol) I had heard the mercury was increased in shots from 1991-ish to around 1999: Is that why my other 3 kids (all born outside of that timeframe) don't have autism or anything like it? Everyone is different though, so who knows really. I do know I have a 23 month old that I am definitely up-to-date on shots with (but I do ask on all her vaccines that they be as metal free as possible). It wouldn't scare me a bit to have another child so precious as my 12 yr old with autism. | |
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Posted: 5/15/2008 9:21:30 PM | | I have an Autistic son (as well as other issues) and fully believe that vaccine may have done some damage yes. I would read up on it if you have an 18 month old due for it. If I could go back I would NOT have vaccinned my son for squat. | |
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Posted: 5/19/2008 9:23:29 PM | I have a 5 yr old autistic son. he does not have the autistic gene. Vaccinations have been proven to cause autism in high risk individuals. Mercury is a direct link. Washington, DC has paid out cash on lawsuites. That should say enough. High Toxin Levels in the body cause autism. Pestisides into the water -pollution-causes autism. Most autistic people are allergic to milk and should not be given glueten products.
Omega 3 and Omega 6 on a daily basis for some unknown reason nueroligically helps autistic people become normal along with organic food and health food vitamins.
trying to keep away from preservatives and "processed" foods somehow roots with someplace where our society has went wrong amongst pollution and other toxins that we have forced into or fetuses and children. Look at the end results of an FDA fast paced society. Autism is growing to almost 1 in every 100 kids. Now that is pathetic. | |
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Posted: 5/21/2008 6:34:12 AM | | hi my son ben is my fourth child and up til i had him i had no problem wit vaccines at 2yrs and ten mths ben was diagnosied wit autism i think he had from birth but getting vaccines didnt help so i refused 2 give them 2 my 5th child cause there was a risk at having subseqent children wit autism i met wit a lot of dissaproval hes 4 now and recieving them cause i think now his body can handle it maybe iwas wrong but that fear was there and stil is but not as bad | |
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Posted: 5/21/2008 12:06:27 PM | I did not read this whole thread.
I don't have to because I already did some independant research on this topic.
I am not going to say people should or should not vaccinate their kids but I can say that children die from vaccinations way more often then you think.
Also.... I don't know about everywhere but here in Canada they make these vaccines using aborted fetus which I find horrific. Especially considering it would be just as easy fo them to make them with chicken embryo. | |
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Posted: 5/22/2008 2:05:35 PM | mercola.com has lots of good information on this.
You can sign a statement of conscious/religious belief that exempts you from having to have your kids vaccinated. In Canada you can get it through Health Canada, they will mail it to you.
The US supreme court just recently awarded money to parents of a child damaged by vaccinations, a first. | |
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Posted: 5/22/2008 5:13:09 PM | It will likely be a long time before there is really definitive evidence about the extent to which genetic predisposition and vaccinations play in the development of autism. Many childhood diseases that we believed were eradicated have affected thousands of children who contracted these illnesses when people stopped vaccinating either because they were scared of it or they believed because no one ever "got" the illnesses anymore, that they weren't necessary.
My children received all of their shots on the normal schedule with no ill-effects and I recently had my daughter vaccinated for HPV. Any medical treatment carries a risk as does opting out but whether there is an advantage to waiting also will only be found out over time. The poster above whose fifth child had no ill-effects vaccinating at 4 might have had the same experience on the normal schedule but was just genetically different than the older sibling.
One of the ladies at my church has been in a wheelchair for most of her life. She contracted polio at 8 and was able to walk for a few years with crutches and a wheelchair some of the time. When she hit college, the crutches were no longer practical so she has not been able to use her legs since she was around 20. She has led a full life, married twice, three children, numerous grandchildren and one great grandchild so far. But she has health problems that others would not and what she can and cannot do has obviously been limited by that chair. Ironically, while the legs are useless, they still have feeling so her pain at this point is rather constant.
Her mother worked tirelessly to raise money for the work that Jonas Salk did and knowing that the polio vaccine is one that is suspected of a connection with autism, I would still prefer to take that chance over one of my children losing the use of their legs. Read, talk to people and then follow your gut. One of the hardest parts of being a parent is knowing that you are making decisions that can affect them for the rest of their lives and we just have to hope that we are making the right ones. | |
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Posted: 5/23/2008 12:09:33 PM | | So you go to Church but you have no moral issues with using aborted babies for such a cause? | |
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Posted: 5/24/2008 12:22:23 PM | | I believe there is a connection my son has autism if you want to discuss this my #i (580)603-0877 | |
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Posted: 5/24/2008 7:19:54 PM | | http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=32988 | |
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Posted: 5/25/2008 5:58:54 PM | | My son is 17 with Asperger's syndrome, part of the Autism Spectrum. He is high functioning but definitely Aspergers. While this may not be entirely the same as what parents of autistic kids are going through, I believe it has more to do with genetics ~ there are definite familial traits I can see in his Dad and grandfather as well. We know more about so many things. Nature/Nurture. That's my story. I love my son very much and deal with who he is but I am one of the lucky ones ... | |
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Posted: 5/26/2008 8:53:13 AM | | it is a myth, there are many of them out there, nobody is actually sure what causes this and no vaccine has shown to be the culprit, there is a major increase of this in this country, more research is needed, more money needs spent, i donate to a few good charities in this area | |
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Posted: 5/26/2008 2:48:43 PM | Hi there!
As a mother of a son with autism, I do tell you that he started to eat and do something
before his vaccine at twelve and eighteen months!
Of course the Goverment doesn't want to take any responsibility.
That would mean they were at fault.
My son is now 21 this year.
I love so much! He is very high functioning.
He is exceptional!
He can tell anyone the day of the week they were born, and is so exceptional with math and dates!
Rubert | |
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Posted: 5/26/2008 2:56:16 PM | Sorry to tell you, but there is no sign of autism of anything of that nature in my family history.
Therefore your genetic predisposition goes right out the window!
Rubert | |
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Posted: 5/26/2008 3:05:59 PM | By every means, a autistic child needs one on one as early as possible to help correct
them from staying in their own, so called world!
Interaction is so very much needed as early as possible!
Many schools never had the help or even the understanding of Autism!
Thank God, that there is more awareness now!
Rubert | |
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