| middle aged swingers ;0p
Posted: 12/2/2006 12:46:11 PM | I wonder who these people are trying to sell their morals too?
making up second hand stories of sitings in good neighbourhoods.
what would your kids think?
what would your boss think?
[it ain't their business]
and you found a condom... well it just must have been swingers that put it there...
[dang ... what a lame negative comment and insinuation]
its reefer madness all over again ... just turned against a lifestyle you don't want to be involved in ... so ... stop involving yourself in it because that's what you seem to be trying to do. Trying to stop it ... is being involved.
Do you let your kids watch you take a crap? or describe it in graphic detail?
Get a grip on reality and stop trying to sell your moral to us. You've had your say ... now leave it alone unless you want more rhetoric about how pulpet pounding you sound.
More self righteous crap ... spewed by condecending attitudes.
[real impressive.]
 just let people play their games ... and you play yours. Life will be better for all. | |
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| middle aged swingers ;0p
Posted: 12/2/2006 1:19:14 PM | "Life will be better for all"
If it was better for all, I would certainly not care if swinging went on.
I would like to hear why swinger advocater want there to be no one who is against it. I have asked that question a few times already, but got no answer.
I have no children, but if I did, I would be more active against others who think swinging is a guaranteed right. | |
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| middle aged swingers ;0p
Posted: 12/2/2006 1:21:21 PM | Live and let live.
For the swingers, fine, go for it if you want to.
For those who don't want nothing to do with it, that is fine too.
Get a grip on reality and stop trying to sell your moral to us. You've had your say ... now leave it alone unless you want more rhetoric about how pulpet pounding you sound.
More self righteous crap ... spewed by condecending attitudes.
[real impressive.]
Why does that bother you? I could preach to people all day, they could either accept it or disregard it. That is what free speech is all about. | |
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| middle aged swingers ;0p
Posted: 12/2/2006 2:03:01 PM | This will be the 108th post on the subject about middle aged swingers.
My list shows that 1,353 people have viewed it.
More people are reading the OP's question & the postings rather than exercising their freedom to say their opinion about the subject.
The only thing I ask is......... if you're a swinger or agree with the swinger lifestyle, put it in your profile so that others can make their own decision whether to date you etc.
Afterall, in every forum " lack of honesty" seems to be a dealbreaker.....like worrying about someone lying if they shave a yr. or 3 off their age?
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| middle aged swingers ;0p
Posted: 12/2/2006 2:08:21 PM | I did a little profile reading, and some of the posters who uphold the swingers position seem to be looking for a monogamous relationship... and they clearly stated they have tried the swinging.. Wonder why?  | |
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Posted: 12/2/2006 2:57:20 PM | What bothers me is ... this is supposed to be a forum where you state your opinion on the OP's question ... and off you go.... now I look in here for some variety of opinion and all I see is the same 3 people ... rapin on and on and on and on about b.s. that isn't even that relevant ... ... No wonder nobody else posts anything in here.
and this is my last post in this thread too..... Its the same old same old ... rhetoric that bothers me ... and I realize I'm wasting my breath trying to get anyone of them to dust the condecention off their self righteous brains.
Swingers ... Gays ... Muslims ... Christians ... Budists .... narcisists ... extistentialists .. athiests ... mormons ... even Catholics .... all have a right to their beliefs ...
Listen ... learn .... state your opinion ... but stop arguing with rhetoric ... its a total waste of time and only makes you look uneducated bigoted and lacking in credibility.
The only thing I'm advocating is those people's rights to their own private lives.
Swingers don't bother me at all or make me fear for my children in comparison to those child molesting priests. | |
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Posted: 12/2/2006 3:11:29 PM | I have no children, but if I did, I would be more active against others who think swinging is a guaranteed right.
Are you assuming that just because someone is a swinger they are automatically an irresponsible person? and if so, why?
If a person wants to swing, that is one aspect of their personality and social life, one that is completely private to them.
I have a very close girlfriend (not sexual, she's just a good friend) that told me she is into that lifestyle, and that it is a very important rule that they do not 'out' someone else who is in the lifestyle. She is a very respectable person, has a young child, but this is a part of her life, which she makes time for **when she can do so responsibily**.
I don't get what the problem is. | |
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Posted: 12/2/2006 3:18:29 PM | ^^^ I don't understand. If you had children you would be more active against others who think swinging is a guaranteed right?
Then you state you have a girlfriend with a young child and she is responsible. OK, those two statements are contradictory.
I don't have a problem with anyone who does it, but I don't have to approve either. Just a choice. | |
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| middle aged swingers ;0p
Posted: 12/2/2006 8:45:28 PM |
If you want sex without love, intimacy and commitment, if you want an extra curricular F**K, threesomes, foursomes, bi, same-sex, S &M...orgies etc. Do me a favour will you? Put it in your profile.
Well I'm no "swinger" (whatever THAT really is) but I disagree with the assumption that couples who engage in "non-vanilla" sex necessarily lack "love, intimacy and commitment".
How on Earth would we know what their relationship is without knowing them? After all, there are plenty of "vanilla" couples who lack these things. We wouldn't assume we know about THEIR love without knowing anything about them personally.
I don't want to read about your most private sexual adventures and fantasies in your profile. Yechkt bleghkt!
My FIRST interest is not whether you've had a threesome or never considered anything other than missionary position sex...I’d rather read about your heart, personality, and passions before hearing about that other stuff.
Profiles are too public for this kind of personal information. You should talk about your sex life in private.
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| middle aged swingers ;0p
Posted: 12/3/2006 7:28:19 AM | | I totally concur on that one Eye! Things so very personal in nature should in fact be kept private... | |
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| middle aged swingers ;0p
Posted: 12/3/2006 9:42:24 AM | msg #90
I have some questions for the "swingers".
Would you have a problem with telling your children what you are doing?
What do you think their reaction would be if they found out?
If you don't think there's anything "wrong" with it, why is it such a deep dark secret? One would think you would have the courage of your convictions,
Swinging - children - sex
Tell your children what exactly ? Emabrassed about what EXACTLY?
I have never participated in anything other than couple sex. I have friends who have. However, almost every sexual partner I have been with, has had other sexual partners.
I have an 18 year old daughter and two 25 year old sons, and I have no idea about their sex lives, other than I know they do.
My children have had 'sleepovers' since they were old enough to walk ! Did any of these sleepovers involve sex. I DON"T KNOW, and I would hope that none had happened in my home. But I DO know, some children, maybe all children explore their sexuality.
I was 8 years old when I had my first experience with naked girls. It was in the school yard, not in some perverse hiding place and though I remember little of it, I knew I would get in trouble for taking my clothes off, but I was not ashamed !
BECAUSE I have had a woman sleep over, with my children's knowledge, I think it is better they draw their own (innocent or not) conclusions about what is happening behind that closed door,
But what is really important, THEY SHOULD UNDERSTAND THAT THIS WOMAN IS HERE BECAUSE WE LIKE EACH OTHER. That isn't something to be ashamed of.
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Posted: 12/3/2006 10:58:39 AM | I've read over my posts and I can't see where I bashed anyone's lifestyle. Quite frankly, I don't care which lifestyle anyone chooses. I've said I've met swingers and had conversations with them. People usually talk to me quite freely because I'm interested in what they have to say and I don't preach about what they have to say. I have a curiousity about what makes people tick. Those people certainly did not feel I was being judgmental and, in fact, they complimented me on my open-mindedness.
The questions I posed were not an attempt to bash anyone - I'm just curious. As for anyone thinking I'm a prude or any of those other names called on here, people who know me well would laugh their heads off to hear me called that. I'm probably one of the least prudish people among any of my family, friends or acquaintences. The fact that I don't choose to swing is a personal choice. It would be a problem for me if I met someone who didn't disclose to me that he enjoyed a swinging lifestyle and tried to pressure me into it. After all, his needs wouldn't be being met, now would they? We all need to assess sexual compatibility in choosing a partner.
I did notice though, with some amusement, that many who are proponents of the swinging lifestyle were quick to post the disclaimer that they've never done it. | |
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Posted: 12/3/2006 11:06:39 AM | I Say. People that are sexauly health can have sex any time they please. As long as it is two consenting adults, Who cares. I agree there is a special bond for some people. Some, it is just Sex. I have slept with 100s' and don't remember thier name. Sex in the 60s' (in Calif) Hell of a time. Still, when You meet that Special some one, the bullshit stops. I would never want to share anyone that My heart was involed with. When we are Single, gives us the right to have causal Sex with whom ever We choose, anytime We choose
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| middle aged swingers ;0p
Posted: 12/3/2006 1:42:38 PM | Profiles are too public for this kind of personal information. You should talk about your sex life in private
Some people already make references to sex in profiles.
Sexual topics are already discussed in open forums.
This topic has been brought forward in a public way in this forum.
So, if this shouldn't be stated in a profile ( unless they state they are looking for Intimate Encounters or Looking for Others for Sex) , when should I ask?....Should I ask the question, if they're engaging in a middle aged swinger lifestyle, in an initial email?
and part of the initial interview process?
By the way, my friends would also laugh, if they heard that I was referred to as a prude or an uneducated bigot. That would be a new one!
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| middle aged swingers ;0p
Posted: 12/3/2006 1:57:22 PM | I think it would be interested to know what swingers teach their children about good manners, and moral behaviour.
Regarding people who are into sports sex, swinger lifestyle etc., just when do they tell people they contact on pof that that is their lifestyle? Do they just assume that everybody is up for it? Would they waste time contacting people if they thought that person wasn't into swinging?
Some website have options where Threesomes, Couples etc. are a question. One site local to me has a separate section for dating, relationships, and intimate encounters. I get a big laugh out of people who post in relationships saying that they are looking to find a life partner to be exclusive with, and then the same person has a profile in intimate encounters saying that they are looking for threesome and couples. | |
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| middle aged swingers ;0p
Posted: 12/3/2006 2:16:55 PM | I have a friend in Las Vegas and yes they are swingers..
They have an open marriage..
I do not believe there kids know, but since they are older now
then maybe they do know..
I just don't understand that lifestyle and never will..
They tell each other everything and they have sex
with other
people without emotions.. And yes from what he has told me
his wife is Bi.. They are in it just for fun..
He is still married but now he and his wife live apart but still
consider them selves to be married.. They each have kids by
different spouses and said the arrangement they have now
is because of the kids..
Not sure, but he really wants me too move to Vegas or visit..
I think I will stay in Texas tho
They have places in vegas online where these people go
greendoor and redrooster, look them up | |
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| middle aged swingers ;0p
Posted: 12/3/2006 2:22:25 PM | | Nobody has to put how they feel about swinging in their profiles. Just read this thread | |
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| middle aged swingers ;0p
Posted: 12/3/2006 2:45:07 PM | Unfortunately, most people don't post in the theads, so we can't tell by their profiles where they stand of issues should as swinging.
I often answer first messages I receive with a bit of info about myself, which includes "I don't do sport sex". Most answer back with neither do I, but who knows for sure. | |
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| middle aged swingers ;0p
Posted: 12/3/2006 3:22:55 PM | Of course sports sex requires a helmut. It also requires that you sign a Release of Indemnity and a F.O.I.P. Release. It's the new millennium,don'tcha know!
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| middle aged swingers ;0p
Posted: 12/3/2006 3:24:40 PM | | I have a tough time finding latex helmuts...not a lot of the ' sporting goods ' stores stock the small ones. I guess I'll have to swing by myself... from a tree. | |
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