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 sunfishone2001
Joined: 6/2/2005
Msg: 126
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It's the age of the girl that's the issue. Whether the guy is 16 or 36, he's still having sex with a minor.


The age of the girl was 15, and he was 18. That's three years. That's stupid!!! I realize that he is in jail because he broke the law. The law is stupid.... that was my point.

Actually, if the guy was 16 it would matter because he wouldn't be considered an adult. I don't think there's anything illegal about two minors having sex. If there is some kind of demented law that says it is illegal for a 16 year old to have sex with a 16 year old, then something is seriously wrong with my country.
 dreaminuvya
Joined: 2/16/2005
Msg: 127
18 year old gets 10 years for sex with 15 year old!!!!
Posted: 8/13/2005 7:49:31 PM
Yeah, well, that makes no sense. Why would it be okay for a 16 year old girl to have consentual sex with one guy, and yet a serious crime to engage in the same consentual act with a different guy, just because he is of a different age. You need to either lower or raise the legal age, and stick with the same rules for everyone. If my daughter is a child, I don't want her having sex with another child any more than I want her having sex with a man.
 cw35
Joined: 4/8/2005
Msg: 128
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18 year old gets 10 years for sex with 15 year old!!!!
Posted: 8/13/2005 8:15:53 PM
cream: If this took place in Canada and it was consentual the story must be fake because the age of consent in Canada is 14. In the states the age varies depending on the state but up here it's the same in the entire country.
 sunfishone2001
Joined: 6/2/2005
Msg: 129
18 year old gets 10 years for sex with 15 year old!!!!
Posted: 8/13/2005 8:25:23 PM

Yeah, well, that makes no sense. Why would it be okay for a 16 year old girl to have consentual sex with one guy, and yet a serious crime to engage in the same consentual act with a different guy, just because he is of a different age.


LOL!!!!!!!!!! That's law for you, bro. A lot of them are ****ed laws.


You need to either lower or raise the legal age, and stick with the same rules for everyone. If my daughter is a child, I don't want her having sex with another child any more than I want her having sex with a man.


There's no legal age to have sex!!!! It is illegal for an adult to have sex with a minor. I realize you don't want your daughter to have sex, but if she does, she isn't going to go to jail. Sorry, but she just won't. I'm afraid you'll have to deal with that disappointment.
 sunfishone2001
Joined: 6/2/2005
Msg: 130
18 year old gets 10 years for sex with 15 year old!!!!
Posted: 8/13/2005 8:29:54 PM

cream: If this took place in Canada and it was consentual the story must be fake because the age of consent in Canada is 14.


But consent for what??? It may not be legal for a 14 year old to have sex with a 40 year old, but a 14 year old can give consent to other things, such as medical treatment or. In my studies, the legal age of consent is actually TWELVE, but this may not be the case when it comes to consentual sex.
 luckyducky2
Joined: 8/13/2005
Msg: 131
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Posted: 8/13/2005 10:06:13 PM
A very interesting thread. I just joined up the website and it is my first look at this tread. I read thru the entire thing and came up with this question: If the girl is a minor, would not be her parents responsible for her decisions? As far as I know it is the case in most legal issues. Therefore, would they not be partially to blame for the alleged statutory rape since they let it happen by not properly exercising their control of the minor? Should they not be partially to blame for allowing the 18 year-old access to their daughter? After all, they do not seem to have restricted her freedom to meet with the 18 year-old? Or can they?
 bugsybears
Joined: 10/6/2004
Msg: 132
18 year old gets 10 years for sex with 15 year old!!!!
Posted: 8/13/2005 10:37:44 PM
luckyducky i really don't agree with that. if that was the case, parents would have to lock their kids up till they were old enough for consent. you can never stop teens from having sex. some kids are responsible enough not to have sex. some of that does fall back on the parents. some kids actually talk to their parents and mothers tell them if they are thinking about becoming sexually active to let them know so they could get them on the pill. children do not need to be having children. for one thing, they can't take care of them. kids think all they have to do is love them. sorry, babies can't live on love.
 Uncle_J
Joined: 7/15/2005
Msg: 133
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Posted: 8/13/2005 10:45:39 PM
16 is the age of constent in canada i believe. a good law old enough to drive old enough to be driven
 MorrieS
Joined: 3/24/2005
Msg: 134
18 year old gets 10 years for sex with 15 year old!!!!
Posted: 8/13/2005 10:59:27 PM
I heard on the radio today some 17 year old beat a guy to death with a pool ball in a sock, and our wonderful legal system handed him a day in jail! No shit!! Now consider this to this poor nineteen year old guy who had sex with a fifteen year old. I'm not condoning what this kid did...but what are priorites in our great country!
 Robin
Joined: 8/12/2005
Msg: 135
18 year old gets 10 years for sex with 15 year old!!!!
Posted: 8/13/2005 11:04:41 PM
The 18 year old should have known better. And 15!? Thats too young to even be thinking of sex. When I was pregnant with my son I knew a girl who has her first sexual experience at 15, got pregnant, and when she went into labour she and the baby both died. Babies cant have babies, and Babies shouldnt even be thinking of having sex. The 18 year old got what he deserved. I'm sorry if that sounds too harsh, but its true

Robin
 luckyducky2
Joined: 8/13/2005
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Posted: 8/13/2005 11:42:48 PM
Bubsy, I do not disagree with you the least. That is why as posted my response as a question. My problem is with assigning responsibilities. Parents controlled their offsprings a lot more closely when those laws about statutory rape were passed than the same parents are now. With tpresent day permissiveness it is not uncommon for 18 year olds to meet with 14 year olds at concerts and other venues (where they should not be) and nature to take its course. To be realistic why should a 18 year's-old be more responsible than a 14 years old. I know it has been a while since I am 57 but I do not recall that I was more responsible when I was 18 than I was 14. In some countries the legal responsibility starts at 21 while some others start at 18. In France, when I left it in 1967, the responsibility for girls (called the Age of Consent) was 15 years and 3 month-old for girls and 18 years for boys. I grew up there and loved the sexual freedom and have missed it ever since but that is another story. That was France where boys will be boys and girls, well .... So what is the answer? To address some of the questions by others in the thread, in regards to pedophilia (or as I would rather call it: pedophobia since I do not beleive that love has anything to do with it) someone older than 21 should never get into the drawers of someone less than 21 (there we may have to allow a 3 years translation ??? period such as 23 year-old with 20 year-old) regardless of sex but that does not answer the ramifications of what is legal in various countries. What does determine the age of consent and what does determine the proper punishement for disgression is dependent on local laws. The point is that laws are the laws. You cannot defy them anymore than the law of gravity (You jump out of the 30th floor of a building and you have no choice but to go down). You break them and you pay so dont break them.

On the other hand, should we expect an 18 year old to know the laws? Well, only if they are part of the school curriculum along with sex education. Are they? Until they are, the parent of both parties (unless the age of one of the party is 18 because the parents of the 18 year-old know the law and can defen themselves) are responsible even if the have to lock the kids up until they are 21 (or whatever), In that case the 18-year old boy and the 14-year old girls parents go to jail for 10 years. It's only fair, if not realistic. But what is realistict about a 18-year old boy going to jail in the first place for succombing to something that should be condsidered a normal urge (except if she is white and he is black)?
 luckyducky2
Joined: 8/13/2005
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Posted: 8/14/2005 12:17:12 AM
Robin, I wish that I could agree with yoiu on a 18 year old being able to know better than a 15 year-old but I cannot. I am not certain that I know better now at 57 than I knew when I was 45. I had my first sexal experience when I was two years-old at the hand of an older woman (who was 4 years old) and all I knew is that I liked it. She apperently did like it as well since I could not have been her first or she would not have known about it. That open some questios I cannot answer as far as what and where she learned that (questions I cannot answer). Of course, ther was no intercourse and she could not possibly have got pregnant. After that and before the age of puberty, I had been invited in the drawers of practically all the girls in my neighborhood. I grew up in France. A point to consider is that all the children then where baby boomers and there were quite a few of then within walking distance. My point is here that even though babies cannot have babies, they can be sexal animals and often are. That they should not be thinking about having sex is probably true but they do. I would consider what was happening an aberration if I was the only one affected but I was not. Having learned that I like this particular activity (remember that I was the same age as they were), I continued entertaining the ladies until way after puberty. I did know about procreation and learned about protecting my partners as well as myself but I was never made aware of what legal risks I encontered until I came back from Vietnam at the age of 22 when one of my 18 year-old soldiers was accused of statuary rape. It never entered my mind that what I and my sexal partners enjoyed could be illegal and that is the truth. My point is even though "ignorance of the Law is no Excuse" I believe that everything should be done to to make sure that the law should be make clear before responsibilities and blame are assigned.
 americangentleman
Joined: 5/11/2005
Msg: 138
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Posted: 8/14/2005 3:08:45 AM
Before thinking with what is underneath his pants, he should have thought of the consequences. It is not enough to just say its a three age difference.
 worstguyonhere
Joined: 6/11/2005
Msg: 139
18 year old gets 10 years for sex with 15 year old!!!!
Posted: 8/14/2005 6:14:04 AM
Rules are rules, laws are laws. Lots of young kids these days are sexually active, We shove it down their throats on tv, radio, and in print. The internet is flooded with info to arouse and in some cases enlighten. I can't honestly believe that even a mentally deficient 18 year old would not recognize that he was taking "advantage" of the situation. The statute seeks to prevent that situation from recurring. 15 is way young. Just because all the priests are doing it doesn't make it o.k.
 soulless_spirit
Joined: 7/26/2005
Msg: 140
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Posted: 8/14/2005 6:24:16 AM
Gosh this is 2005 ... 15 year old girls are more educated and more adult as the law gives them credit ... am glad i lived in a country where they have realized this ... this boys life is ruined ...

dont we understand feelings anymore, who is to say what an 18 and a 15 year old should be allowed to feel, think back at that age ...

i was in love with my bf at 15 and i was ready for it he was 20 ... hex its natural that girls that age go for a couple a years older guys ... cause the guys their age are still immature ...

some laws just should be revised and the states attorney prosecuting this case must have never been young ...


soulless
 Drake~
Joined: 7/27/2005
Msg: 141
18 year old gets 10 years for sex with 15 year old!!!!
Posted: 8/14/2005 8:29:05 AM
14 years old is the age you can have sex with anyone you want,dosent matter the age.If he got ten years he raped her.
 soulless_spirit
Joined: 7/26/2005
Msg: 142
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Posted: 8/14/2005 9:36:21 AM
well different states different laws ... just like in other countries ... but still makes u wonder ... now if she was mentally disabled i could see that punishement ... otherwise if it wasnt rape ... the lawmakers should think on the law ...

like they did in other countries ...

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 Truebeautycomeswithin
Joined: 5/25/2005
Msg: 143
18 year old gets 10 years for sex with 15 year old!!!!
Posted: 8/14/2005 11:32:00 AM
@Drake.14 is the age you can have sex.wow what is this world is coming too,anything goes nowdays.man thats sick.
 inni
Joined: 8/9/2005
Msg: 144
18 year old gets 10 years for sex with 15 year old!!!!
Posted: 8/14/2005 11:41:39 AM
Key word here "consentual" ... As long as she was willing, there was not enough age difference to make this "child molestation" ... He got a raw deal.

He should have known better - I must say, but ... 10 years?! Proof that our system is NOT working!
 inni
Joined: 8/9/2005
Msg: 145
18 year old gets 10 years for sex with 15 year old!!!!
Posted: 8/14/2005 11:43:50 AM

14 years old is the age you can have sex with anyone you want,dosent matter the age.If he got ten years he raped her.


Drake .. where in the world did you get that idea? Must be from another country - because in the US .. it's pretty much 18!

In some states, kids can be charged even if both parties are under 18...
 calmingchaos
Joined: 4/6/2005
Msg: 146
18 year old gets 10 years for sex with 15 year old!!!!
Posted: 8/14/2005 11:53:25 AM
Drake .. where in the world did you get that idea? Must be from another country - because in the US .. it's pretty much 18!


In Canada, the age for sexual consent is 14.

A quick search on the web reveals the age for sexual consent varies in the United States. If the sources I am using are reputable the age is anywhere from 14 to 18.
 inni
Joined: 8/9/2005
Msg: 147
18 year old gets 10 years for sex with 15 year old!!!!
Posted: 8/14/2005 12:06:00 PM
Thanks Calming... interesting info... I'll have to do more research - I was always under the impression it was 18 in most states.

I guess Arkansas doesn't count.

... Just Kidding!!!
 soulless_spirit
Joined: 7/26/2005
Msg: 148
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Posted: 8/15/2005 12:52:29 AM
okay here the ages for usa bye state , statue, the age male female , the age male/male and then female /female sex .....


USA Alabama Rev 06/2001 16 illegal illegal

USA Alaska Rev 08/2000 16 16 16

USA Arizona Rev 06/2001 18 Law Repealed Law Repealed

USA Arkansas Rev 03/2001 16 Law Invalidated Law Invalidated

USA California Rev 04/2001 18 18 18

USA Colorado Rev 04/2002 15/17 17 17

USA Connecticut Rev 04/2001 16 16 16

USA D.C. Rev 08/2000 16 Law Repealed Law Repealed

USA Delaware Rev 03/2002 16/18 Law Repealed Law Repealed

USA Florida Rev 06/2001 16/18 Illegal Illegal

USA Georgia Rev 07/2002 16 16 16

USA Hawaii Rev 03/2002 16 Law Repealed Law Repealed

USA Idaho Rev 04/2001 16/18 Illegal Illegal

USA Illinois 17 17 17

USA Indiana 16 16 16

USA Iowa Rev 03/2002 14/16 Law Repealed Law Repealed

USA Kansas Rev 06/2001 16 illegal illegal

USA Kentucky 16 Law Invalidated Law Invalidated

USA Louisiana Rev 03/2002 17 Illegal Illegal

USA Maine 16 16 16

USA Maryland Rev 04/2002 16 Law Invalidated Law Invalidated

USA Massachusetts Rev 07/2002 16/18 READ -Law Invalidated READ -Law Invalidated

USA Michigan Rev 04/2001 16 Illegal Illegal

USA Minnesota Rev 03/2002 16 Law Invalidated Law Invalidated

USA Mississippi Rev 03/2002 16 (laws passed June 1, 1998) Illegal Illegal

USA Missouri Rev 03/2002 14/17 Illegal Illegal

USA Montana Rev 10/99 16/18 18 18

USA Nebraska 17 Law Repealed Law Repealed

USA Nevada Rev 1/2000 16 18 18

USA New Hampshire Rev 03/2002 16 18 18
USA New Jersey 16 16 16

USA New Mexico 17 13 13 ( real weird same sex have age limit 13 buggers me why )

USA New York Rev 03/2002 17 17 17

USA North Carolina Rev 03/2002 16 Illegal Illegal

USA North Dakota 18 Law Repealed Law Repealed

USA Ohio Rev 11/2000 16 Law Repealed Law Repealed

USA Oklahoma Rev 03/2002 16 16 -illegal??? 16 -illegal???

USA Oregon 18 18 18

USA Pennsylvania 16 16 16

USA Rhode Island Rev 06/2001 16 Law Repealed Law Repealed

USA South Carolina Rev 03/2002 14/16-bill pending Illegal Illegal (so dont sleep with an under 16 year old yet law is not affirmed yet )

USA South Dakota 16 Law Repealed 16 Law Repealed 16

USA Tennessee Rev 04/2001 18 Law Invalidated Law Invalidated

USA Texas Rev 03/2002 17 Illegal 03/2001 Illegal 03/2001

USA Utah Rev Rev 04/2001 16/18 Illegal Illegal

USA Vermont 16 Law Repealed Law Repealed

USA Virginia Rev 07/2000 18 illegal illegal

USA Washington Rev 06/2001 16/18 16/18 16/18

USA West Virginia 16 18? 18?

USA Wisconsin Rev 03/2002 18 18 18

USA Wyoming Rev 12/99 16 / 18? Law Repealed Law Repealed

USA Military Rev 06/2001 16 illegal illegal


generally speeking under 16 no go from state to state different ...takes america long to realize that some of their laws need changeing ...kids do it anyway sorry but thats reality and with 18 ur not a grown up yet in my opinion...
 shortnfunny
Joined: 6/24/2005
Msg: 149
18 year old gets 10 years for sex with 15 year old!!!!
Posted: 8/15/2005 10:12:22 AM
at 15 yrs a girl is unable to think clearly and makes bad decisions. Him being older he was in a position of power. See when i was 15 i hung out with older guys and so did my friends, and we now realize that we were being controlled for we wern't mature enough to know the difference. We all have daughters now, and so help any guy who is of legal age who tries to date my daughter. Your ideas change once u have children of your own espeically little girls and u see how vulnerable they are.

I do believe though that 10 yrs was to much, and maybe even 3 yrs probation was enough to send a message out there to all the guys out there who like ot take advantage of young woman. It shows someting about thier maturity, if all they can get is a 15 yrs girl to sleep with them.
 MorrieS
Joined: 3/24/2005
Msg: 150
18 year old gets 10 years for sex with 15 year old!!!!
Posted: 8/15/2005 10:39:44 PM
Has anyone checked this out to be true?
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