| Windows Vista: who cares?
Posted: 1/3/2007 12:34:58 AM | I don't plan on getting Vista unless I'm forced to, such as a future game requiring it in order to actually play the game.
I use SUSE Linux 10.2 mainly for everything, except gaming. My self-modded Windows XP takes care of most of my gaming.
The so-called "innovative" features that Microsoft is claiming with Vista make me yawn. | |
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| Windows Vista: who cares?
Posted: 1/3/2007 5:22:45 AM | I am not jumping on the Vista wagon. First all because I am a die-hard Fedora fan and second because of the restrictions on the software you can install....blah blah blah.
Also the so-called new features Vista is advertising have been a part of Linux forever. Give me a break. | |
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| Windows Vista: who cares?
Posted: 1/3/2007 8:03:41 AM | Vista has sagged in the business market.
After the 2003 Server issues and switch from 2000 to XP (some businesses are still making that jump) Vista is looking at a much further penetration date into the business market. No one is coughing up large sums of money for unproven technology.
I think while you see the Consumer PC market move to Vista in the next year or two, it'll still be a 3 or 4 year gap before businesses convert and give in to the curve. | |
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| Windows Vista: who cares?
Posted: 1/7/2007 5:58:14 AM | Nurgle161,
Really... thats obvious, because thats how it ALWAYS IS, for buisnesses.
Most businesses didn't move to 2K until 2002-2003. Then they didn't get around to XP to 2005 to 2006, hell I just finished upgrading all of a company's computers to XP a month ago. If anyone seriously expects businesses to move to Vista until at least 2009 or 2010, they are fooling themselves, and I really doubt Microsoft believes it either.
A business needs to test all there applications, databases, and custom stuff. Any company making a drastic change, without spending at least a year of testing and waiting for fixes is... irresponsible.
Consumers will move over slowly like they always do, most people only buy a computer every 3 or 4 years, and they will move over when there next computer has Vista, power users well probably upgrade over the next year or two, if they see something in Vista worth upgrading.
My main PC will be upgraded as soon as possible, just so I'm familiar with it, and can repair it if need be. | |
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| Windows Vista: who cares?
Posted: 1/10/2007 10:59:11 AM | V- Viruses
I- Intruders
S- Spyware
T- Trojans
A- Adware
Love it! 
Personally I am not impressed with Vista although M$ FINALLY included an app for a complete backup of the entire hard drive in the event of a failure or if a rebuild is necessary. I was asking M$ for that feature with Windows 3.1. (Its interesting that M$ is not the creator of the app. Kinda like Hotmail. ) May take 18 cds or 3 dvds but the feature is there! Not all versions of WindowsXP come with that feature and why some companies such as Dell (puke!) and Compaq (owned by HP) include additional software with their co-branded software.
When it comes to Linux, and there hundreds of variations and versions, its more of a technician OS and not the easiest for many to use but it will preform with lightning speed with fewer crashes; the blue screen of death is obselete. It will become easier for the average consumer with forthcoming advancements. The biggest problem with Linux is compatibility which is being addressed.
But don't forget the Mac. At one time AppleWorks was the number one seller and top software in the united states until Windows 3.1 was released and widely distributed. Even when Windows95 was released, it did nothing the Mac did not already do.
... and who cannot forget when Billy boy was revealing Windows98 and it crashed? I love Windows98 but unfortuately, newer programs, apps, plugins, software, etc. are not being written for it. Instead one has to use WindowsXP which is bloatware at best.
Now come VISTA and no REAL advancements or advancements but it does mean sales.
Windows Vista, who cares. Its not the greatest thing since sliced bread and never will be. | |
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| Windows Vista: who cares?
Posted: 1/11/2007 3:38:08 AM | not sure if anyone mentioned this yet, but in Steve Jobs keynote speech the other day where he unveiled the iPhone, he ran a new Mac VS PC ad where the PC is getting surgery because he's getting upgraded to Vista.
It's actually quite funny. | |
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| Windows Vista: who cares?
Posted: 1/11/2007 4:14:39 AM |
Tried the beta, reminded me of the MAC OSX I use at work...
This NY Times review makes it clear that they are different:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QT6YO30GhmQ
"On the Money" show...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3UagjskZMs&NR | |
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| Windows Vista: who cares?
Posted: 1/11/2007 7:23:05 AM |
Microsoft finally included an app for a complete backup of the entire hard drive in the event of a failure or if a rebuild is necessary.
I have been doing that for years without any special application. Just select everything on the C:\ drive (except the Swap File and Recycle Bin) and copy to another partition or drive.
A copied C:\ drive with an OS on it will boot right up. I have done this with Windows 98. I've never tried it with newer operating systems. | |
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| Windows Vista: who cares?
Posted: 1/12/2007 9:19:31 PM | Feel sorry for people upgrading to windows vista , I will not be upgrading at all based on Steve Gibson views.
If anyone is interested
http://www.twit.tv/sn74
You make your call!! | |
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| Windows Vista: who cares?
Posted: 1/17/2007 12:46:29 AM | The Ride isn't the way to go!
Bloatware takes the consumer for a ride.
My machine is quite similar to yours, yah mine's an overclocked 4400+ DC w/ 4gb 4200's on an Asus A8V and 1 terra on 4 Maxtors w/ an Nvidea 6500 AGP. Big deal! !!
It runs as fast as a $ gamer and as slow as Norton Corporate wants it too. (I Don't do Norton)
As the programs get bigger and more combersome, us, as consumers think we have to follow, you know, just to stay ahead of the game therefore your machine has to get bigger and faster to understand the software writers.
PEOPLE, You don't have to update to make it work when it works now!
I was talking to an online friend about a month ago, she said to me "can you see the little smiley faces I sent you?"
I said No, she said why? I said i'm using version 1.0 she said she was using version 1000.0 (Satire) I said, can you still communicate with me, she said yes!
Listen up, I've built comps since DOS was a child! Take it from me, if you're OS is cool and you're programs run fine, why update? Keep it clean and simple! KISS
I am only responding to the original thread, I do not wish to interfere with other repondents thoughts or opinions, cause like there's 3 pages of you guys and I can't read them all tonight. | |
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| Windows Vista: who cares?
Posted: 1/17/2007 1:25:58 PM | | I can honestly say that once Vista comes out I'm going hogwild for Solaris. | |
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| Windows Vista: who cares?
Posted: 1/17/2007 2:58:20 PM | | I was checking out virtualization options for a dev server and had to give up on Solaris; I can't get to install on any of my x86 hardware. | |
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| Windows Vista: who cares?
Posted: 2/2/2007 7:46:49 AM | | I work in tech support and most people who have called about Vista say it is not worth the money to upgrade. A lot of people are having installation problems, claim that it erases everything on there computer and they strongly recommend a backup to not loose everything, and they say the only real big difference is that it looks more pretty. | |
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| Windows Vista: who cares?
Posted: 2/4/2007 11:50:45 AM | | they might want to take a look at the upgrade path for Windows Vista. Depending on what OS they are upgrading from, a clean install might be the only way. | |
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| Windows Vista: who cares?
Posted: 2/4/2007 1:41:01 PM |
I was checking out virtualization options for a dev server
I have heard that the end user license for Vista (at least for the consumer version) prohibits vitualization.
had to give up on Solaris
Having used Solaris way too much I can't say I see much reason to use it when Linux is available. | |
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| Windows Vista: who cares?
Posted: 2/7/2007 9:38:46 AM | | Am loading Vista now. Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead! Fingers crossed, will post later (if I can)! | |
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| Windows Vista: who cares?
Posted: 2/7/2007 9:40:13 AM | | ^^^ It is a memory and resource hog. Most people say the graphics look like a Mac. | |
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| Windows Vista: who cares?
Posted: 2/7/2007 10:27:08 AM | i used vista rc1 rc2 and the final release version. its pretty to look at (although mandriva linux 2007 3d desktop is better), drivers for it are a nightmare, it wont work with usb modems only ethernet ones, av's are a pain in the ass with it, the defender software is way too keen with pop ups for everything. it uses 512 MB of ram just standing still
if you want a nice looking desktop enviroment without switching to vista just use xp with windowblinds and icon packager, i am not at all impressed with vista, heavy on resources and very expensive and i cant see any performance difference from xp pro
ive used xp pro for years but now i really really like mandriva linux, so much so that if i can learn to do everything i want with it i'll switch to that instead of vista | |
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| Windows Vista: who cares?
Posted: 2/7/2007 2:35:15 PM | ^^^ what are you all using to check resource usage? Are you augmenting that stat with the fact the OS is proven (see my earlier post) to be faster than XP?
Just curious... | |
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| Windows Vista: who cares?
Posted: 2/7/2007 4:40:13 PM | | Crash and burn on the Vista install, don't know if i got a bad image or what? Now XP Home will not activate. Three and a half hour install. | |
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| Windows Vista: who cares?
Posted: 2/7/2007 7:38:45 PM | | I have a copy of rc1 running. Problems with drivers, window Media player, wont accept my olympus digital camera,quick time player is a problem too. But it`s a good learning experience. What will happen to these beta copies of vista?? Do you have to upgrade them? | |
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| Windows Vista: who cares?
Posted: 2/7/2007 10:41:03 PM | I seriously dont know why people rush out to get Microsoft software when it first comes out. I guess people do not learn. Anytime Microsoft releases new software it is full of bugs and problems. Also people will complain that there are no drivers and nothing works with it. People had the same problem when Windows 2000 Pro was released, when Windows Me was released (still is crappy OS lol), and even when Windows XP was released. You are going to see this OS on the news with major secuirty flaws where hackers can get right into your system.
My advice, stay with XP and if you really want to upgrade to Vista, wait till service pack 1 is released to fix all the problems with it. If you dont believe me and are thinking about upgrading just search on the web for problems with Vista and you will see what I mean. | |
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| Windows Vista: who cares?
Posted: 2/7/2007 11:06:47 PM |
I seriously dont know why people rush out to get Microsoft software when it first comes out.
From what I'm hearing with Vista they aren't (or not very many are). But Dell has already stopped shipping XP on consumer systems so some people are getting Vista because they have no choice.
it is full of bugs and problems
So far my favorite is the voice command exploit. Get somebody to play a sound file that contains voice commands and Vista executes them. Brilliant!
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| Windows Vista: who cares?
Posted: 2/7/2007 11:25:15 PM | | ^^^ That is how Microsoft it. They will do anything to force you to upgrade. I think you should have a choice to what OS you want. I think if you wanted to order a pc with Windows 2000 from Dell then you should get Windows 2000. But I guess to be at the top you must push your software onto others anyway you can. Microsoft from what I understand is already working on the next OS that will get rid of the NTFS file system and that system is due out I believe in 2012 and you will see them advertising it is better than Vista and then you will see people running out to get it and reporting the same crap as always with a new Microsoft OS. They will say no drivers, bugs here and there, this wont work, that wont work, it crashes, installation trouble, blah blah blah. I am sticking with my XP. | |
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