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 I love hockey

Joined: 8/30/2006
Msg: 51
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Posted: 12/27/2006 10:15:43 PM
Too bad for them if they dont like it. Your health comes first... and quite frankly, those service dogs are the best dogs out there.
 ladydi8

Joined: 1/28/2006
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Posted: 12/28/2006 3:37:22 AM
i think so too...to me, fishbait is my hero....i can go anywhere and not worry about having a seizure now...i have been on pof for 2 years now..and only met about 5 ppl...well now that fishbait is certified, i attended tha christmas party in darby with him and there were about 500 ppl there..
 bob dog

Joined: 12/18/2006
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Posted: 12/29/2006 6:28:24 PM

....i often wonder just how fishbait picks up on pre-siezure behavior..


Lady Di, who trained this dog to be a service dog? Didn't they work with the two of you together? I can't understand how you could rely on a dog to protect you when you had no idea how or why a service dog was able to serve you.

Do the trainers have to be certified before they can train a dog? Sounds like you might be in a very dangerous situation.

Very concerned,
Bob
 Sombient

Joined: 9/29/2006
Msg: 54
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Posted: 12/29/2006 7:25:32 PM
The science behind seizure alert dogs (versus seizure response training - varies by dogs capacity to sense oncoming seizure versus natural habits of seeking aide or staying with a patient during and after seizure) is hazy.

The aura and migraine headache that LadyDi has allows her dog to smell release of certain excitatory neurochemicals released into the blood stream minutes before a seizure. These compounds buildup - and they are released in animals that experience fear (hence the keen olfactory receptors in predators). The OP senses this as a metallic taste. It can be smelled in sweat after a panic attack, especially those that have panic attacks at night with an abrupt change in blood sugar, resulting in adrenaline release while experiencing so called 'night-terrors' (extremely disturbing nightmares).

Dogs as natural hunters are also keen observers; they will also detect changes in speech, in facial/eye expression, and petite mal muscle tremors that may precede a grand mal seizure.

Training techniques vary according to the service organization (~20, nationally) supplying the dog.

http://www.epilepsy.com/articles/ar_1084289240.html
 ladydi8

Joined: 1/28/2006
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Posted: 12/30/2006 3:57:41 AM
thank you sombient..wow, you have a way with words ..i trained my dog myself...and i am very well qualified to train animals as i have spent 20 something years training exotic animals with ringling brothers circus world and worked with masters of the wind raptors and reptile discovery at cypress gardens of florida...i was licensed by state and federal govt to train and rehabilitate injured birds of prey....i did 30% of tha vet work for cypress gardens and studied herpetology under bruce shweddick...when i first got fishbait...he was simply to be a fishing buddy and companion to me...i had not had a dog in years....HE picked up on my siezures and started responding to them...after that it was a simple matter of getting in touch with someone from assitant dogs international and having him pass tha test...everyone who has ever been around when i have a siezure has been amazed at tha way this dog takes care of me during them...he allows nothing to distract him ...and he stays with me thruout tha siezure.
 smitten2meetu

Joined: 11/16/2004
Msg: 56
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Posted: 12/30/2006 7:08:28 AM
All animals can sense when a person is ill, depressed, when a woman will go into labour and storms. Depending on the nature of the animal, some are better natured and don't become afraid when a seizure will happen to a person. I have met a lady who'se bird will yell out "seizure" and get her to a safe spot. I have known friends who where about to have a baby, and their cats could sense they where going into labour and wouldn't leave their side. Animals can tell alot about a person nature by having a strong ability to know when something is not right.
I had many friends be amazed that neighbourhood cats will come up to me in any area and want to be friendly. I can just see it, single with a 100 cats all around me..lol
Fishbait calm nature has created a bond with Di, and what was supposed to be a family pet, turned out to working animal that has cause Di to feel calmer. I bet Di seizures have become less due to her knowing that fishbait has stayed at her side?
I know when Di goes on a date, that fishbait will be having a fun time, knowing that his master is having fun with him.
 !somewhere

Joined: 1/16/2006
Msg: 57
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Posted: 12/30/2006 7:18:09 AM
I would think that with any service animal, the reason for needing the service animal would have a bigger effect on a realationship, than the animal itself.
An example would be blindness, many people would simply not be able to, (or maybe not willing to,) cope with the extra demands of a blind person's life.

As for your situation, ladydi, if you meet the right man for you, he will be understanding and supportive, of your condition, and your need for your dog. A man who wouldn't be, is someone you don't want anyways.
(The only possible exception may be someone with a serious pet allergy.)
 *mandrake*

Joined: 9/19/2006
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Posted: 12/30/2006 7:29:31 AM
Now, ifn that were me, ole fishbait would prolly git more attention than you!
Besides, he's cuter than some of the two legged dogs ya might have ta put up with. An prolly more fun too!
 bob dog

Joined: 12/18/2006
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Posted: 12/30/2006 8:06:46 AM
Thanks for clearin' that up, dear lady. I was very concerned, mostly because of the long and very close relationship you and Fishbait had. I have a very large dog that would not only allow an EMT to touch me, but would probably offer the keys to my truck. My sister's mastiff, on the other hand, would not take too kindly to strangers running and touching her when she was obviously in distress even though he is obedience trained and has his CGC certification.

Happy new year to you and fishbait!

Bob
 ladydi8

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Posted: 12/30/2006 10:46:01 AM
no problem bob, and fishbait is very nonaggressive...as well as bein nuetered...its tha law for siezure dogs...bait wasnt thrilled about that aspect, but i have spent many many hours assuring him that his mojo was not affected ...i have only had bait for a yr an 1/2..hes just a two year old...but even i admit that bait an i share an unusual relationship...scince he breaks my falls when i have a siezure, i have even started takin my showers with him...and because i have status siezures in my sleep, he sleeps with me...one day i was fishin on tha dock and as i took a step sideways, so did fishbait......right off tha side of tha dock...he moves with me like we are connected at tha hip...we may look odd to other ppl, but it works for us...and yes, joey...my siezures are mostly petit mal now that i can take bait with me everywhere...i only have about 4-6 big ones a week now... and thats much better than it was before.
!somewhere...i was recently talkin with another pofer about there bein someone for everyone...and for awhile i was afraid my siezures would be too much to land someoen with...tha dr. said they wont go away..an would prolly get worse as i got older...but tha pofer i was talkin to said when tha right man came along...that they wouldnt even bother him...i reckon my service dog wont bother that feller either...hmmmm, wonder where he is...grin...
 ladydi8

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Posted: 1/16/2007 12:29:30 AM
well i have seen how fishbait handles himself in tha hospital....i am quite proud of him...i had to go to tha emergency room due to an eye and ear infection..i am allergic to penicilin and somehow they gave me eyedrops with penicillin in them.........my mom was sitting by me on tha gurney when bait jumped up and placing one paw on my chest, went to pushin me down to a laying position....i went into a siezure just like that....no warning, nothing....my dog then jumped up an lay beside me until it was over, then he calmly jumped back down.....it may seem strange to some of you that i took him with me...but an unexpected siezure can lead to a bad fall.......fishbait notices my siezures no matter where i am and responds before even trained medical people can react..........
and because some of you havent heard from me recently, i included a pic on my profile of what this penicillin allergy has done to me..........sheesh, keep in mind folks it was only taken a week after my main profile pic............and it will either get better or somewhere out there an ugly girl is gonna suddenly find herself really pretty and will have a blast with it!
 smitten2meetu

Joined: 11/16/2004
Msg: 62
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Posted: 1/16/2007 8:23:28 AM
I knew our fishbait would be a great doctor or a paramedic and finally made it to the hospital...I bet everyone was impressed how he could sense it and watch him in action... Yeah fishbait.

I know the feeling about being allergic to penicillin, I will look like a puff up blowfish with eyes...I had this new antibiotic and the dr didn't know it had traces of it and it took about 3 hours to react. You know when you're allergic when your eyelashes hurt, including your hair, and our Fishbait did a awesome job being with you. I hope you're feeling better soon and the puffiness should leave your body in a few more days.

Hug our fishbait..
 Sombient

Joined: 9/29/2006
Msg: 63
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Posted: 1/16/2007 9:13:29 AM
The more I hear about FishBait, the more amazed I am at his natural instincts as a service dog.

My guess would be that this capacity for sensing your seizure type, and corresponding servive behavior is highly developed - and therefore quite unusual - in your dog. And, your dog appears to be very intelligent. He *adapted* to your situation on the gurney, just like that *snaps fingers*.

The serendipity of your finding this dog and him having this innate capacity that you have encouraged by training, is ultra cool.

What an interesting and informative thread!
 ladydi8

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Posted: 1/16/2007 11:29:14 AM
every day i am humbled an amazed all over again by tha love and service this dog gives me...he truly is my hero dog....an its awe inspiring to handle heros on a daily basis...right now my sight is affected because my eyes got burnt from tha eyedrops too...yet fishbait is actully pickin up tha lead when we walk...i have never taught him sight dog techniques an yet he is leadin me to tha bench in tha park or accross tha street when i wanna cross...and everywhere we go, he is showin folks that disabled ppl are just as normal as they are...
we went to tha mall one day and when i walked inside i just stopped and cried...i had not been to tha mall in over 2 years because of my siezures....i didnt realize how much i had missed it....it overwhelmed me ....and then we had a blast fishbait never gets tired of shopping, even just window shopping!
 alexandria_gal

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Posted: 1/16/2007 11:43:47 AM
I would think that if the guy is OK with your disability the service dog shouldn't be any big deal. Usually teaching people not to play with the dog while he's working is the hardest thing to accomplish, especially if it's not obvious he's working (i.e., wearing a harness).

For sombient

Seizure-Alert Dogs--Just the Facts, Hold the Media Hype
http://www.epilepsy.com/articles/ar_1084289240.html

 kingfisher1

Joined: 1/18/2007
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Posted: 2/18/2007 6:44:45 AM
Ey there, Di! Seems I'm again a bit late respondin to a thread but I just have to add to this one.

I, being lucky enough to actually meet Fishbait, can honestly say that I don't think a date would ever have a problem with your nice doggy being along. He's well behaved, doesn't ask for anything and can put a person at ease because we will know that ole 'baits lookin out for you.

He really is one of the friendliest dogs I've ever met..just don't be lettin him try to make friends with any fiesty raccoons
 ladydi8

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Posted: 2/23/2007 5:40:50 AM
awww, king, thats when bein on a date with a feller who has a pickup is handy cause bait always listens when hes told ta "load up"....an its a handy dandy racoon who will show up an lead us to natures restroom when ya gotta go, aint it? course, with me bein a swamp rat, thats tha kinda things i find normal on a date! ......hmmm...reckon that was a service racoon?
 Golden2007

Joined: 5/5/2007
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Posted: 6/10/2007 6:41:30 AM
Boy that was Classy. are you an english major?
 TigerBlackHawk

Joined: 8/5/2006
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Posted: 6/10/2007 7:39:25 AM
LOL.. boy my imaginating went wild...
I am thinking decent men won't mind at all and most would understand the medical need of it.
But some of these men who are only out for sex might get suddenly worried that you brought the dog to attack them if they try to get fresh.

However, I can see a plus side to having a dog on a date. Might lessen the chances of ever getting raped by a creep. Sick him Rover! ::grins:: I love that idea.

Can see the Headline News. "Woman's dog while on a date bit a man's balls off. It was later determined the dog was a female one, so we are beginning to believe the dog bit them off out of jealousy due to her not having any balls of her own to play with." Thank and good night. ::grins:: Told you my imagination went wild with the idea.
 ladydi8

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Posted: 6/10/2007 3:40:42 PM
love that shirt yer a-wearin there, tiger, darlin....got fishes all over it!

...an actually my fishbait is a feller dog,but tha law states that a seizure dog must be nuetured so ...hmmm...how do i put this? ummm...lets just say hes a nutless wonder! anyways, we aint broke tha news to him yet an hes still tryin ta figger out why they aint developed yet

as to tha poster above ya that made a crack about my english....well, darlin, come on down south where we talk this way. i happen ta be talented enough ta type southern too...i am also real good at callin gators an i know my way around inna swamp......care ta join me in a stroll one night?

yeah, i know that aint very nice of me.....tha way i look at it...nice sucks an i did't come ta be popular, i came ta fish!....as you can tell, i aint callin myself laid back an compassionate an lyin about it, am i?
 TigerBlackHawk

Joined: 8/5/2006
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Posted: 6/11/2007 9:16:43 PM
English??? ::Blinks:: I didn't think anyone in America spoke English.. Go to England and they'll get insulted at you calling our words English. We actually speak a language of our own. They now call it 'American Abused English'... And boy do I abuse it down here in "Taxes" Thats how I like to pronouce my states name. LOL
 scorpiomover

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Posted: 6/12/2007 4:36:03 AM
If someone has a dog for a reason, like you have, and she told me in advance, I cannot see the issue. But you would HAVE to have full control of the dog. If you go on a date, and your dog bites the man, don't expect a second date. Expect a lawsuit.
 madamoisele

Joined: 5/16/2007
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Posted: 6/12/2007 6:42:47 AM
Having a dog on a date would completely rock my world. I love dogs. If I could, I'd take one with me wherever I went for company.

Wendy
 ladydi8

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Posted: 6/13/2007 5:11:10 AM
ya know, tha funny thing is....i still dont really date....i dunno, tha idea sounds good an all that, but when it comes to tha actual thing....me an fishbait usually bail out an go fishin somewheres! my dr. said it was because i got so used to letting tha seizures keep me isolated that now that i have fishbait, i stay to myself outta habit....all i know is, it seems to be a moot question in my case after all.....i have prolly gotten so attatched to my service animal that its more like how would a man affect me an fishbaits relationship?
 notsantos101

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Posted: 6/14/2007 2:37:10 PM
absolutely no problem. service dogs are a godsend.

the only issue i have with them is that i have trouble leaving them alone and not distracting them. dogs rock.
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