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| Women can be really shallow.
Posted: 12/21/2006 6:10:22 PM | | I am a woman, and all I can say is this; consider yourself very fortunate to not get tangled with this woman..you are falling for the same crap she is looking for..... | |
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| Women can be really shallow.
Posted: 12/21/2006 9:37:21 PM |
OP:
My company recently hired a young lady (19 going on 20) to work under me.
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I've asked her several times if we weren't co-workers would she think about it?
She hasn't given me a straight answer.
Imagine for a moment that your boss was a gay 60 year old man, who repeatedly asked you out, despite you indicating disinterest...How would you feel? Would you consider that a hostile work environment / sexual harassment?
I'm sorry the woman does not share your interest. In the States, you would be a sexual harassment lawsuit waiting to happen. Try fishing outside of the office. | |
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Posted: 12/21/2006 10:59:00 PM | You have fallen into a classic trap my friend.
The GENDER of a person has nothing to do with it, it's the classic all men are a$$-holes and all women are B's trap. It's self-defeating to your goal, and incorrect.
I understand your disapointment, but listen! being rejected is never personal despite what you may think. Don't be just as immature by bashing her.
This woman has some deep-seated issues. that will not correct themselves.
Even if you did woo this woman in this situation, Would you really want her for the long term? And spending years of your life wondering if she loved your bank account or you???? Would you want someone who thought you was a hunk, only to leave you later if you became ill?
No, the fact is PEOPLE CAN BE SHALLOW. both sexes. it has alot to do with moral programming, and upbringing, not the sex of the person.
Change your hangout, look at each person as unique, and if you find them shallow, move on. Just remember this about dysfuctional/shallow people. You cant be around $hit, without getting some of it on you. people can change, but they must want to. a girl this young is not likely to do so, until she is hurt herself for a few years.
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Posted: 12/23/2006 5:43:51 PM | Don't be just as immature by bashing her.
How is she being immature? I think she is being quite intelligent by not going forward with this relationship that has potential to be a disaster. However.... she is 19! But even if she was 19 or 39 dating a boss who is pushy is a nono!
This woman has some deep-seated issues.
Please don't quit your day job.... you summed up this OP's own view of this situation to the woman having deep-seated issues??? I hope you don't charge people for your advice.
Take a step back and cast aside your own personal related issues and think about this
19 young female who is living the last of her teenage years
33 year old man who has his own clock ticking
19 year old female is a co-worker working under the 33 year old man
33 year old man clearly has a thing for this younger women
he continues to pester and try and persuade the younger co-woker into considering a possible long lasting relationship
She in other words says no... he doesn't get the picture....
Can you not smell a sexual harassment lawsuit??
I'm all for May/December relationships. Don't get me wrong.... but in this case the "boss chasing the co-worker' takes trump over a May/December anyday. | |
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Posted: 12/24/2006 5:52:34 PM | | Response to msg 50.. yes in Antartica a 33 year old lonely man could hook up with a 19 year old sub-ordinate...but in real life its an absolute no no! Sounds like a good fantasy though one you would see in a porn movie I think. | |
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Posted: 12/25/2006 6:11:59 AM | | i like to having sex deferant stily deferent way ilike sucking pussey teen pussey very much | |
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Posted: 12/25/2006 6:23:52 AM |
I don't know what is wrong with me, but I just can't attract women.
Perhaps this is because you are shallow also??? And if you base your assessment of all women on this one young lady, you are not too smart either!!! | |
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Posted: 12/25/2006 6:56:43 AM | It’s finding the right connection, my boyfriend of close to five years, I meet him while working for him and he is 21 years older then I.
I was 18 years old and he was 39 years old and I fell in love with him the moment I laid eyes on him. I could not understand why? I was only into “hot” guys, muscular with peaks and a 6 pack. But why him, when he was the opposite?
He was full of life, he didn’t act his age, and he loved to party and always treated me with respect. He always had a way to get women’s attention for an average looking man, but there was something about his eyes.
To make a long story short, he tried to stay away from me, and I from him because of our age.
Now we have been together for close to 5 years and live together for 4 years.
He treats me like a princess and I’m more in love with him now than I did the day I meet him, and he feels the same towards me.
People that have no life still judge us for our age different but all those who are in a successful business and even his ex-wife and kids don’t judge us but envy us and respect us.
A lot of you will judge us because we are swingers in the lifestyle.
Back to the subject.
Tex just face it, it just didn’t click, and calling her shallow is wrong.
Lust n’ Quickies
Jaye
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Posted: 12/25/2006 7:26:57 AM | | i did the younger woman thing run run fast their only looking for the bbd bigger better deal that sex is their fishing pole. sucker will be your name if you go with her cause when the bbd comes you will be history | |
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Posted: 12/25/2006 8:23:40 AM | | Good grief. She's 19 and she works for you and you're hitting on her? 33 is grandpa aged to a 19 year old. You're talking about her being shallow. What exactly do you think you're doing? You've already talked about how stupid she is. So I wonder which of her attributes attract you? lol | |
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Posted: 12/25/2006 8:31:37 AM | | Well for one thing, calling a woman a slut for having a good time might be your first mistake and 2nd, you are too old for a 19 year old, she's right. Sorry but that's just the way I see it, really hate that word slut, such BS, who are you to judge her lifestyle. She's nearly a kid and that's what girls that age do, I lived for clubs at that age and wasn't a "slut" am still not, neither is she, get over it. | |
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Posted: 12/25/2006 9:07:43 AM | Thank god MEN are never "shallow", eh?
This is a total testosterone thing where your male ego won't admit that your being too old for her is what it is.
She has no interest in you, and that makes you want her even more, the challenge of getting her to do what you think she doesn't want to do.
Maybe it's time for one of you to grow up?
You sound like one of those guys who think a woman is a slut if she sleeps with everybody except you. Her personal life is her business.
Aren't there any nice 31 year olds for you to chase? | |
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Posted: 12/25/2006 9:22:19 AM | Well her age was my main point.
There ages are worlds apart. And you are welcome to disagree with me. thats is the main reason for the fourms . opposing views make people THINK.
Generally speaking, what is important to a very young girl seems trite to a 33 year old.....a pitfal for problems...threfore as I said ISSUES!
And WHY a guy would want such a young girl is beyond me. Frankly, Ive raised my children. I do not need nor want a "young thing" to make me feel like some sort of "stud". I'm quite secure in who I am, and have nothing to prove.
Although sexual harrasment was a well intended thing from it's conception, It's being misused. Look at the numbers. there are very few cases of men who claim sexual harrasment, and even fewer who was sucessful. There is clearly a double-standard here. The lines between the sexes, are blurred enough, without this extra baggage and fear of being sued over simply giving a woman a complment.
Are there bona-fide cases of sexual harrasment? of course!
I came from a world where a woman would slap your face (or worse)for unwanted advances. These were true WOMEN who was quite capable of taking care of themselves, they were taught how to survive in this world, and not be a "helpless female" there again is a double standard. I have no arguement (and condone) equal rights, but some women misuse this, being "equal" then when a problem arises, they revert to playing the 'hepless female". no girls, you cant have it both ways.
Thats the trouble with today's society, men and women both. Manners and morals have been impoverished. We act like helpless babies, sheep to the slaughter, simply taking things at face value, never thinking out of the box, and challenging nothing. A man who has been raised properly will not abuse, so men are just as gulilty. But what is seldom mentioned, there are abusive women as well.
An abusive woman is a tricky situation for a man to deal with. she has the benefit of both worlds, he does not. I've seen many cases of an abusive woman proviking a man to anger, and when she get's whats deserved, she playes the "helpless card"
There is NO REASON to strike another human being......man or woman, unless your saftey/ life is in danger Under that situation, I see nor regard the sexes.
The cold hard fact is simply this. You have to learn take care of YOU if a threating situation arises. All the police can do is show up after the fact and clean up the mess, then decide who to make money from. it's simple as that. In this world you ARE alone for the most part.
Take care
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Posted: 12/25/2006 10:01:30 AM | tex mex
lol you should live in GA.
sounds to me like the girl just isnt interested.you might want to leave her be. your job is counting on it i bet. though i can see that most of the ladies on here are defending the shallow statement. ok, i live in atlanta ga. its hard to date in this area. the reason is the ladies are extremely shallow here in ga. the ladies are after $$ and nice things. if you ask them, they will be honest about that. ladies in this state are looking for the "bigger and better deal". they want a guy that drives a nice car, makes lots of money, and hangs in bars most of the time. these girls all say they want this,that, and the other. but when its right there in front of them, they become blind. it was printed in a well known mag back at the begining of the summer, that GA is second in #'s of single people. if women would lower their standards w/o lowering their values, this would change.i know several girls that stay with the one they are with, through being mistreated, and often beat on. yet they stay because the say hes financialy secure. let me share an experiment i did over the last week to prove my point to myself. i sent out over 35 "merry christmas" greatings on POF. only 15 were to out of state folks. the results, only 5 women answered back.3 from TENN. and 1 from NC. and 1 from GA. i recently hit it off with a girl on here pretty good. she sounded perfect too.on a scale of 1-10, she was about a 7. which in my opinion is perfect. 8's,9's and 10's arent worth the trouble. she was telling me all the things she wanted out of life. perfect, we had tons in common on that too. she told me all she wanted in a man. great, those bases were covered.
so i asked her what it was that she had to offer in return. her answer blew me away. her reply: im good looking, i can cook, and im great in bed. WHAT! nope, not for me.most,but not all,women want more out of a man than they themselves have to offer it seems.well, in ga anyways. if you go look on GA's part of POF the atlanta area, your gonna see the same 30 women on here day after day, after day. is it that theres no "good guys" left out there? is it that they just cant find "mr right" out of all the guys on POF?probably not. its like i said earlier,
folks need to lower their standards w/o lowering their values. im sure i'll get tons of replies on that statement too. but it will come from the shallow ones, and the ones that just do get what im saying. mostly, lifes uneducated ones. | |
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Posted: 12/25/2006 10:12:14 AM | i too just noticed, that not 1 woman stood on tex mex's side on this at all.
just a bunch of insults. nobody really tried to help him see things for what they are.
"help" being the key word here. this girl he talks of might not be shallow minded, shes just not interested it sounds. but if ya read, guys are on both sides of the fence on this.
all the girls are on one side. lol go figure.
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Posted: 12/25/2006 7:04:21 PM | People can be really shallow, it is not exclusive to one sex or the other.
Just like....People can be really insensitive as opposed to Men are really insensitive.
The OP should not even be having these types of discussions with someone that works for him. SHAME ON HIM! | |
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Posted: 12/25/2006 7:11:34 PM | | I agree with most of what you've said, yet - what were you like when you were 19 going on 20? My guess is that you were pretty shallow, too! She'll grow out of it once she's experienced more of life. But don't wait for her, certainly there are more mature women around... | |
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Posted: 12/25/2006 8:46:46 PM | LastGoodGuy, I think you'll find most of the women were blinded once they noted the OP was a sex pest.
Yeah, a sex pest.... that's not extreme and it's not over the top... that's exactly what unwanted advances are. It is sexual harrassment when someone makes you feel uncomfortable and it doesn't matter that whether the harrassee is a b*tch/b*stard, stupid, shallow, wears white socks with black jeans and shoes, is a nazi or an active Klu Klux Klan supporter. That's the beauty of legislation - it protects every citizen not just the ones that people think deserve protecting.... not that I think this young lady doesn't deserve protecting...God! I remember when I was 19! I still thought I'd find someone who'd send flowers to my office and understand that when I had PMT joking that I looked like Satan's bride wasn't the best response.
This young woman probably watches the OC and Smallville. She wants her Clark Kent not Jonathan Kent.
Now, on to the next point... most of you have posted your views on whether the 19-33 age gap is an issue or not. This is what we in the trade call, irrelevant. The only person that matters is the co-worker. If she thinks 33 is too old for her then that is entirely her perogative. Hell if she think 21 is too old for her then that's cool too. It's her choice.
Now, onto Tombstone Tom whose posted so much crap I thought I leave that til last.
I came from a world where a woman would slap your face (or worse)for unwanted advances. These were true WOMEN who was quite capable of taking care of themselves, they were taught how to survive in this world, and not be a "helpless female" there again is a double standard. I have no arguement (and condone) equal rights, but some women misuse this, being "equal" then when a problem arises, they revert to playing the 'hepless female". no girls, you cant have it both ways.
These so called true women that you speak of are actually righting one wrong with another wrong... that's called assault. A civilised women likes to operate within the boundaries of society.
How exactly is utilising legislation being a "helpless woman"? If you call the police when your car is stolen are you a "helpless man"?
So your definition of equal is women shouldn't be protected by the rights given to every citizen and for some reason they should dole out rough justice???? Interesting. Tell me are you the same kind of man that thinks a woman wearing a short skirt is asking to be raped?
Thats the trouble with today's society, men and women both. Manners and morals have been impoverished. We act like helpless babies, sheep to the slaughter, simply taking things at face value, never thinking out of the box, and challenging nothing. A man who has been raised properly will not abuse, so men are just as gulilty. But what is seldom mentioned, there are abusive women as well.
This post is paradoxical.... actually I prefer Oxymoronic - it's time effective, you can insult the dullard at the same time. You bemoan the lack of morals when two seconds earlier you are advocating assault as a solution to sexual harrassment.
Although sexual harrasment was a well intended thing from it's conception, It's being misused. Look at the numbers. there are very few cases of men who claim sexual harrasment, and even fewer who was sucessful. There is clearly a double-standard here. The lines between the sexes, are blurred enough, without this extra baggage and fear of being sued over simply giving a woman a complment.
Does anyone remember that episode of the Simpsons when Homer is promoted to Safety Inspector and, at the same time, Accidents go down by 90%. He's heralded as a success even though Smithers has already pointed out that in the preceding month 90% of accidents were actually caused by Homer so the reduction actually resulted because Homer's not around to f*ck things up anymore....
Moral - statistics don't give you any kind of story and the moron that believes they illustrate anything is even more stupid than Homer (believe me, in the UK that's a major insult!!)
Did you ever stop to wander that maybe the reason there are fewer cases of men claiming SH than women is because men aren't being harrassed as much as women??
Man! I have to get off this site - all these bitter, twisted, misogynistic men are making me seriously think about becoming a lesbian..... if so bucsgal I'm looking you up....  | |
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Posted: 12/25/2006 11:40:04 PM | | Well, what about men ? Where's the forum, on them? I had IM, MSN chatted and talked for hours with this guy I was really getting to like and after meeting him (which went OK...i thought)another day of msn and all of a sudden he asks about my weight loss since my ex left and told me that if i lost another 30 i'd be killer!!!!...I dont think i even have 30 more to lose!!!! ...maybe 15 and in a perfect world if i lost more than 20 i'd be anoexic!!!! That sure didnt help my self esteem...he was the first from POF that I had a blind date with and so many came up to us telling us how hot we looked together....maybe it scared him but I cant be a trophy girl........ | |
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Posted: 12/25/2006 11:47:34 PM | I want to re title this thread to read: men can be so lecherous. come on op now really
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