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Posted: 4/4/2005 10:37:48 AM | fid thats dumb contrails are used to controll our climate and crop disease 747 crop dusters were the next logical step in aviation super business / agriculture circles
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Posted: 4/4/2005 10:41:31 AM |
Not to speak for watchman, but while the history of Dubya's grandfather being an investor in companies that supported the Nazi's is true, Elwood et al keep presenting that info as if Dubya is tied to the Nazi's, which is cr*p.
Ummmmmmmmm... did I say George W. Bush was tied to the Nazis?
SO, You're criticizing me for NOT saying Dubyah wasn't tied to the Nazis?
I don't think that's quite fair...
But then, look at Dubyah's association with the arms industry. We've spent as much on the North American Missile Defense System, which doesn't work; as we have on Iraq!
The family GAINED most of it's fortune selling weapons and oil to the Axis. Now he's funneling money out the back door of the US Treasury to the arms dealer who's making missiles.
U figure it out.
YES... Prescott WAS tied to the Nazis. It's a matter of congressional record... and it's unlikely Hitler would even have come to power without money from Rockefeller, Ford and Bush... | |
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Posted: 4/4/2005 11:50:39 AM | Oh but wait a minute MajMike: Lessee....I posted one about valerie plane... which is OBVIOUSLY TRUE... then, I posted another about Haiti WHICH IS ALSO A FACT... and then you turn around and try to stick me for something I didn't even say.... to NOT blame Dubyah for what his grandfather did... which I didn't do in the first place...
What's so sacred to you about this guy anyway? *LOL*
What wrankles you so much about someone who even hints about using this slime's name in vain, anyhow?
Bet he wouldn't do the same for you... IN fact, if you were running against him, he might do with your service record what he did to Kerry's.... | |
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Posted: 4/4/2005 1:24:03 PM |
IN fact, if you were running against him, he might do with your service record what he did to Kerry's....
What did President Bush do to Kerry the Coward's service record? | |
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Posted: 4/4/2005 6:22:11 PM | Elwood
I just stated that you made the Bush/Nazi statement on it's on, without qualifying it by mentioning you were referring to his grandfather. Given your hatred of Dubya, it was a short leap to see you trying to link W to the Nazi's.
If that was not your intent, I apologize, for I was wrong. I do agree that Prescott was an investor in companies that supported the Wehrmacht, as were many of America's wealthy.
In a political race many things are attacked by opponents seeking any possible way to discredit you, however for my Purple Heart I actually have medical records of treatment right after the wound and thereafter. In fact, I am now medically retired and a 100% disabled veteran, so to challenge my record would be a bit more difficult than that of a man with three Purple Hearts in less than 6 months who never sought treatment for his so-called wounds.
Lastly, there is nothing sacred about W to me, but I do hold the truth sacred, and your history of twisting or disregarding it is long and vigorous. Whenever I see someone doing that I try to shine a light on the falsehood to keep things as factual as possible. When I make mistakes, as we all do, I admit it and learn from them. You might try that sometime.
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Posted: 4/4/2005 7:08:29 PM | Let's get back to reality.
We live in a world where the President can't even get a BJ from an intern without it becoming public knowledge.
Even things as sensitive as battle plans for upcoming invasions get into the papers. CNN greeting the highly covert Navy Seals on the shores of Grenada, and again in Iraq.
I for one am very skeptical of most secrets. Now hidden agendas... that's another story. | |
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Posted: 4/4/2005 8:07:50 PM | MajMike: Tell me when I "twisted the truth".
You're trying to protect him AGAIN by saying "many of america's wealthy" invested in the Wehrmacht... WELL TELL ME WHO?
AND TELL ME WHO ELSE INVESTED IN HITLER IN 1924????
You're making wild inferences that I didn't tell the truth and that I didn't admit when I was wrong. Tell me when that was?
What are you doing saying it now? Why didn't you tell me in the thread?
If you can prove I've lied or ignored the truth, show me, but don't just whine without saying when and about what.
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Posted: 4/4/2005 8:58:34 PM |
In fact, I am now medically retired and a 100% disabled veteran, so to challenge my record would be a bit more difficult than that of a man with three Purple Hearts in less than 6 months who never sought treatment for his so-called wounds.
and still you'll defend a man who totally WIMPED OUT on his service and turn against a man who actually went into combat...
It's a republican thing, I guess.... | |
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Posted: 4/4/2005 9:06:43 PM | | Remember that flight that took off from New York and exploded over the Atlantic several years ago? At the time a few eyewitnesses claimed to have seen a missle hit the plane. Their claims were quickly dismissed by authorities. Don't know if this became a conspiracy theory or not. | |
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Posted: 4/5/2005 8:26:09 AM |
CDR. William S. Donaldson, USN (ret.), challenged the official NTSB position on the cause of the crash of TWA Flight 800 in a series of letters to James Hall, Chairman of the NTSB between April 1997 and December 2000. During those four years, CDR. Donaldson worked with other Retired Aviation Professionals, including some previous crash investigators as well as persons inside the NTSB investigation itself. CDR. Donaldson has extensive experience as a Naval crash investigator and he and others concluded that the NTSB's explanation of the Center Wing Tank explosion was not credible.
http://www.twa800.com/index.htm
I guess they didn't want to start "The War on Terrorism" just then. | |
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Posted: 4/5/2005 8:53:47 AM | Elwood
First of all I am not defending W, I just want to see the facts used when attacking him as I would with anybody. Your virulent hatred of him makes this too hard for you to do.
Second of all I am no longer a Republican (both major parties disgust me), I am a member of the Veterans Party of America and Libertarian by nature.
Third, my reference to your record of lying did not include this thread, as I said I was wrong about your intent with that post and I apologized.
Fourth, about "many of America's wealthy", that includes the Fords, the Rockefellers, W.A. Harriman, the leaders of companies like GE, ITT, AEG, Standard Oil, Chase Bank, Morgan Bank, et al. From what I could see Prescott Bush was involved through the banking aspect.
Lastly, your historical pattern of exaggerations, half-truths and outright lies is well known by every member of this forum who's been here more then a month or two. Also well known is your inability to admit when you are caught in one of these, you change the subject, dissemble, or attempt to mock or belittle either your opponent or the subject. Anything but admit that you might be wrong, or that you've stretched the known facts a bit, and it is this last quality that causes most folks to disregard much of what you post.
I don't 'save' old threads or posts to use as evidence, but if you insist I am sure I can find some of our old exchanges for all to see. However, not being a vindictive person I would prefer not to have to go that route, unless you make it necessary.
Ave Caesar, Et Moritu Salutis
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Posted: 4/5/2005 9:01:13 AM |
Lastly, your historical pattern of exaggerations, half-truths and outright lies is well known by every member of this forum who's been here more then a month or two. Also well known is your inability to admit when you are caught in one of these, you change the subject, dissemble, or attempt to mock or belittle either your opponent or the subject. Anything but admit that you might be wrong, or that you've stretched the known facts a bit, and it is this last quality that causes most folks to disregard much of what you post.
I don't 'save' old threads or posts to use as evidence, but if you insist I am sure I can find some of our old exchanges for all to see. However, not being a vindictive person I would prefer not to have to go that route, unless you make it necessary.
ah ah ahhhh.... MajMike: YOU KNOW IT'S ALL HERE. Don't threaten me unless you can make good on it.
Old threads are indeed SAVED...
So if you're going to call me on my honor, YOU should at least be honorable enough yourself to point out my faults and show me exactly where my "historical pattern of exaggerations, half-truths and outright lies" exists...as you say... if indeed it does.
It is only in this way that you can prove YOU're not a liar yourself... about me.
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Posted: 4/5/2005 9:13:14 AM | Just look at your last 25 posts Elwood....
Bush is a LIAR
MajMike is a LIAR
Watchman is a LIAR
EVERYONE IS A LIAR
'cept ole Elwood of course.... | |
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Posted: 4/5/2005 9:22:41 AM | Watchman: I caught you with some incorrect information and you admitted it was wrong, about Bush "tripling" Clinton's education spending.
YOU caught ME with a factual error about where Clinton graduated from... I thought it was Harvard, you mentioned it was elsewhere... but I admitted my error.
If someone is wrong, they should be told on the spot... and if they refuse to admit it, what is that?
but to call a person a liar without having the lie for verification is just another case of "poisoning the well". In fact, it's worse than namecallig, because it calls the person's character into question.
Whenever I said anyone was lying, I had the lie in the post so anyone could question my assertion. MajMike didn't do that. | |
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Posted: 4/5/2005 9:37:15 AM | i thought we were supposed to be talking about conspiracy theories. but here are a some more.
kurt kobain was murdered and didn't commit suicide
clintons aid, i don't remember his name, was killed
amelia earhart did make it around the world
elvis is still alive and working for the CIA | |
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Posted: 4/5/2005 9:42:35 AM | Whenever I said anyone was lying, I had the lie in the post so anyone could question my assertion. MajMike didn't do that.
That is just not the truth, you've called me a liar on more than one occasion without proving a thing. In fact you've done that to several people on this forum.
You're just not worth the time it takes to respond to and I won't any longer...
i thought we were supposed to be talking about conspiracy theories. but here are a some more.
You're right it is and we are....
I still don't believe any of them ...;)
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Posted: 4/5/2005 10:06:06 AM | "most likely conspiracy theory" watchman but yes good post I agree  
most likely still the kennedy shooting for me | |
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Posted: 4/5/2005 10:24:59 AM | So watchman, is that you do not believe any of the ones posted here, or is that you do not believe that humans engage in Conspiracies at all?
Because history is full of them and I am SURE that there are those in the world today who are ploting something for us.
I know that you believe others (i.e. Muslims) are ploting/conspirying against us, why the problem accepting that we too are capable of conspiracies? | |
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Posted: 4/5/2005 10:28:06 AM | I believe I am right and all others are wrong even if your ideas are the same as mine in a different context!they are still wrong . 
the food industry putting addictive products in the food and selling it as "diet" products is a good one too .
Ie. coke in the fifties ? | |
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Posted: 4/5/2005 10:31:37 AM |
I believe I am right and all others are wrong even if your ideas are the same as mine in a different context!they are still wrong .
ditto -- though I still don't agree with you | |
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