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Posted: 9/23/2007 12:23:09 AM | | Princess Dianna was murdered. Here she is possibly becoming engaged to Dodi. If she was to marry him she would have to become Moslem. So, the heirs to the English thrown and future head of the Anglican Church, William and/or Henry, would have been visiting their mother in Egypt as she prayed to Mecca. Couldn't be allowed to happen. | |
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Posted: 9/23/2007 12:32:25 AM | don't go there with no airplane crashing into the pentagon. I put out that fire. Verification is everywhere. Anybody who refuses to believe we are fighting for our very lives is clueless. Read the Koran partner. Enjoy your nightmares.
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Posted: 9/23/2007 7:06:34 PM |
If you've ever watched the movie the coporation, there is an eyewitness account of the head of IBM dismissing concerns over nazi germanys use of their computers to manage concentration camps.
IBM "computers" in the 1940s?
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Posted: 9/24/2007 5:56:09 AM |
IBM "computers" in the 1940s?
WOW!!! Revise the history books.
Well, essentially not far off the mark. For that time period , the punch card data processing machines were "computers" ( in a similar way we define the word today). When I first started studying Cobol, we still used punch cards going into a machine.
IBM Hollerith high-speed punch-card machines
"The precision, speed and reliability of IBM's machines," the Swiss judge ruled, "especially related to the censuses of the German population and racial biology by the Nazis, were praised in the publications of Dehomag itself, the branch of respondent IBM. It does not thus seem unreasonable to deduce that IBM's technical assistance facilitated the tasks of the Nazis in the commission of their crimes against humanity, acts also involving accountancy and classification by IBM machines and utilized in the concentration camps themselves."
The judge's ruling pointedly added: "In view of the preceding, IBM's complicity with material and intellectual assistance in the criminal acts of the Nazis during the Second World War by means of its Geneva establishment does not appear to be ruled out, as there is a great deal of evidence indicating that the Geneva establishment was aware that it was aiding and supporting these acts."
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/gypibm.html
The initial tattoos placed on those arms of the victims of the Shoah were actually five-digit Hollerith numbers, a system that later evolved into other things.
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/auschwitz/Hollerith-machines-located
There's no doubt that the Nazis job was made far easier by this technology, and that IBM profited from it. | |
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Posted: 9/24/2007 2:31:11 PM | I fell across this rather interesting piece of information today that I post here for your consideration. It will be quite interesting to see the responses from the people in denial about these events. I wonder how the people in denial will now (label these people?)
I thank you.
September 23 2007
Seven CIA Veterans Challenge 9/11 Commission Report
by Alan Miller
Info from www.opednews.com
Raymond McGovern is shown in the video clip I submitted here prior and the full video can be seen here. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-751298171535560228 I suggest everyone watch this video.
During his 27-year CIA career, McGovern personally delivered intelligence briefings to Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush, their Vice Presidents, Secretaries of State, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and many other senior government officials. Upon retirement in 1990, McGovern was awarded the CIA’s Intelligence Commendation Medallion and received a letter of appreciation from then President George H. W. Bush. However, McGovern returned the award[2] in 2006 in protest of the current George W. Bush Administration’s advocacy and use of torture.
In his blurb for 9/11 and American Empire: Intellectuals Speak Out,” edited by David Ray Griffin and Peter Dale Scott, McGovern wrote[3]: “It has long been clear that the Bush-Cheney administration cynically exploited the attacks of 9/11 to promote its imperial designs. But the present volume confronts us with evidence for an even more disturbing conclusion: that the 9/11 attacks were themselves orchestrated by this administration precisely so they could be thus exploited. If this is true, it is not merely the case, as the Downing Street memos show, that the stated reason for attacking Iraq was a lie. It is also the case that the whole “war on terror” was based on a prior deception. This book hence confronts the American people---indeed the people of the world as a whole---with an issue second to none in importance and urgency. I give this book, which in no way can be dismissed as the ravings of ‘paranoid conspiracy theorists,’ my highest possible recommendation.”
William Christison, a 29-year CIA veteran, former National Intelligence Officer (NIO) and former Director of the CIA's Office of Regional and Political Analysis also describes the 9/11 Commission Report as a “joke” and offers even more outspoken criticism. In a 2006 audio interview[4] he said, "We very seriously need an entirely new very high level and truly independent investigation of the events of 9/11. I think you almost have to look at the 9/11 Commission Report as a joke and not a serious piece of analysis at all.”
William Christison
Earlier this year, in an endorsement of David Ray Griffin’s book, Debunking 9/11 Debunking, Christison wrote[5], “[There’s] a strong body of evidence showing the official U.S. Government story of what happened on September 11, 2001 to be almost certainly a monstrous series of lies.” And in an online essay[6] in late 2006, he wrote, “I now think there is persuasive evidence that the events of September did not unfold as the Bush administration and the 9/11 Commission would have us believe. … An airliner almost certainly did not hit The Pentagon. … The North and South Towers of the World Trade Center almost certainly did not collapse and fall to earth because hijacked aircraft hit them.”
Prior to his retirement from the CIA in 1979, Christison served as Director of the CIA's Office of Regional and Political Analysis, overseeing 200 analysts who collected intelligence and provided analysis on all regions and every country in the world. Prior to that, he served as one of only a handful of NIO’s in the intelligence community. NIO’s are responsible for the intelligence community efforts in a particular area and are the principal advisors to the Director of Central Intelligence. Christison was NIO for Southeast Asia, South Asia, and Africa.
Melvin Goodman, PhD, is another former senior CIA official who calls the 9/11 Commission Report a “coverup” and who signed the petition to reinvestigate 9/11.[7] Goodman was the Division Chief of the CIA’s Office of Soviet Affairs and served as Senior Analyst from 1966 - 1990. He also served as Professor of International Security at the National War College from 1986 - 2004.
Melvin Goodman, PhD
In testimony before a 2005 Congressional briefing on the 9/11 Commission Report[8], Goodman said, “I want to talk about the [9/11] Commission itself, about the flawed process of the Commission and finally about the conflict of interest within the Commission that is extremely important to understand the failure of the Commission. … The final report is ultimately a coverup. I don't know how else to describe it." Goodman is currently Senior Fellow at the Center for International Policy and Adjunct Professor of Government at Johns Hopkins University.
Robert Baer is another well known CIA veteran who has questioned the official account of 9/11. A 21-year CIA veteran and specialist in the Middle East, Baer was awarded the Career Intelligence Medal upon his retirement in 1997. After retirement, he wrote two best-selling non-fiction books about the CIA, See No Evil and Sleeping with the Devil, the former of which was the basis for the Academy Award-winning movie Syriana, starring George Clooney. Baer was also the writer and on-camera commentator for the Emmy Award-nominated documentary Cult of the Suicide Bomber.
Robert Baer
Baer has repeatedly questioned whether al-Qaida could have accomplished 9/11 alone. The 9/11 Commission Report categorically found al-Qaida to be entirely responsible for 9/11, stating, "Similarly, we have seen no evidence that any foreign government -- or government official -- supplied any funding." However, this 9/11 Commission finding directly contradicts the earlier finding of the Joint House-Senate Select Intelligence Committee's 2002 Report[9] (p.415) of "sources of foreign support for some of the September 11 hijackers.”
In a 2002 essay[10] for The Guardian, Baer wrote, "Did bin Laden act alone, through his own al-Qaida network, in launching the attacks? About that I'm far more certain and emphatic: no." In subsequent interviews, Baer has suggested that support for the attacks could have come from Saudi Arabia and Iran.
In 2006, during an interview by Thom Hartmann[11], Baer, after commenting on the financial profits being made from 9/11, was asked: “What about political profit? There are those who suggest that ... someone in that chain of command ... had pretty good knowledge that 9/11 was going to happen -- and really didn't do much to stop it -- or even obstructed efforts to stop it because they thought it would lend legitimacy to Bush's ... failing presidency.” Baer replied: “Absolutely.” Hartmann then asked, “So you are personally of the opinion ... that there was an aspect of 'inside job' to 9/11 within the U.S. government?" To which Baer replied, "There is that possibility, the evidence points at it." When Hartmann continued, "And why is it not being investigated?” Baer replied, "Why isn't the WMD story being investigated? Why hasn't anybody been held accountable for 9/11? We held people accountable after Pearl Harbor. Why has there been no change in command? Why have there been no political repercussions? Why has there been no -- any sort of exposure on this? It really makes you wonder."
In his blurb for the revised and updated edition of David Ray Griffin’s Debunking 9/11 Debunking, Baer wrote[12]: "Until we get a complete, honest, transparent investigation …, we will never know what happened on 9/11.”
"I am forced to conclude that 9/11 was at a minimum allowed to happen as a pretext for war,” wrote well-known intelligence analyst Robert David Steele in 2006 in a review of the book, 9/11 Synthetic Terror by Webster Tarpley[13]. Steele is the author of numerous books on the intelligence services and is currently the CEO of OSS.net, a proponent of Open Source Intelligence. Steele has 25 years of combined service in the CIA and the U.S. Marine Corps. He also served as the second ranking civilian (GS-14) in U.S. Marine Corps Intelligence from 1988 - 1992 and was a member of the Adjunct Faculty of Marine Corps University. Steele continued, “I have to tell anyone who cares to read this: I believe it. I believe it enough to want a full investigation that passes the smell test of the 9/11 families as well as objective outside observers.”
Robert David Steele
In a subsequent interview on the Alex Jones Show[14], Steele said, "The U.S. government did not properly investigate this [9/11] and there are more rocks to be turned over," and added, "I'm absolutely certain that WTC 7 was brought down by controlled demolition and that, as far as I'm concerned, means that this case has not been properly investigated. There's no way that building could have come down without controlled demolition."
In late 2004, a group of 25 intelligence service and law enforcement veterans sent a joint letter to Congress[15] expressing their concerns about “serious shortcomings,” “omissions,” and “major flaws” in the 9/11 Commission Report and offering their services for a new investigation. Their letter was apparently entirely ignored. Among the signers were four CIA veterans; Raymond McGovern and Melvin Goodman (both mentioned above) and Lynne Larkin and David MacMichael.
Lynne Larkin was a CIA Operations Officer who served in several CIA foreign stations before being assigned to the CIA's Counter-Intelligence Center. There, she co-chaired a multi-agency task force, which, among other functions, provided direction to other federal agencies for coordinating intelligence efforts among the many intelligence and law enforcement agencies.
Lynne Larkin
David MacMichael, PhD, is a former Senior Estimates Officer at the CIA with special responsibility for Western Hemisphere Affairs at the CIA's National Intelligence Council. Prior to joining the CIA, he served as a U.S. Marine Corps officer for ten years and for four years as a counter-insurgency advisor to the government.
David MacMichael
Their letter read:
"[W]e the undersigned wish to bring to the attention of the Congress and the people of the United States what we believe are serious shortcomings in the report and its recommendations. …
Omission is one of the major flaws in the Commission’s report. We are aware of significant issues and cases that were duly reported to the commission by those of us with direct knowledge, but somehow escaped attention. …
The omission of such serious and applicable issues and information by itself renders the report flawed, and casts doubt on the validity of many of its recommendations. ...
The Commission, with its incomplete report of "facts and circumstances", intentional avoidance of assigning accountability, and disregard for the knowledge, expertise and experience of those who actually do the job, has now set about pressuring our Congress and our nation to hastily implement all its recommendations. …
We the undersigned, who have worked within various government agencies (FBI, CIA, FAA, DIA, Customs) responsible for national security and public safety, call upon you in Congress to include the voices of those with first-hand knowledge and expertise in the important issues at hand. We stand ready to do our part.”
And they and thousands of dedicated, loyal, and experienced military officers, intelligence service and law enforcement veterans, and government officials still stand ready to provide assistance for a thorough, impartial, and honest investigation into the terrible acts of 9/11.
Statements questioning the official account of 9/11 and calls for a new investigation by hundreds of credible individuals can be found at http://PatriotsQuestion911.com
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[1] Petition to Reinvestigate 9/11. Oct. 26, 2004 http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041026093059633
[2] I Do Not Wish to be Associated with Torture by Ray McGovern March 2, 2006 http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/58/18096
[3] Ray McGovern’s blurb for 9/11 and American Empire: Intellectuals Speak Out,” edited by David Ray Griffin and Peter Dale Scott. March, 2007 http://www.interlinkbooks.com/product_info.php?products_id=1545&osCsid=5a22b94fffd724962a118f454c5d7194
[4] William Christison interviewed by George Kenney on Electric Politics. Sept. 29, 2006 http://www.electricpolitics.com/podcast/2006/09/the_case_for_intellectual_inte.html
[5] William Christison’s blurb for David Ray Griffin’s book, Debunking 9/11 Debunking March 2007 http://www.amazon.com/Debunking-11-Mechanics-Defenders-Conspiracy/dp/product-description/156656686X
[6] Stop Belittling the Theories About September 11 by William Christison Aug. 16, 2006 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Aug06/Christison14.htm
[7] Petition to Reinvestigate 9/11. Oct. 26, 2004 http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041026093059633
[8] The 911 Commission Report – One Year Later, a Congressional Briefing July 22, 2005 http://www.vt911.org/McKinneyReport20050722transcript.pdf
[9] Congressional Reports: Joint Inquiry into Intelligence Community Activities before and after the Terrorist Attacks of September 11, 2001 December, 2002 http://www.gpoaccess.gov/serialset/creports/911.html
[10] See No Evil (part 2) by Robert Baer in The Guardian January 12, 2002 http://books.guardian.co.uk/extracts/story/0,,631434,00.html
[11] Robert Baer interviewed on The Thom Hartmann Show June 9, 2006 http://www.911blogger.com/2006/06/former-cia-member-robert-baer-comments.html
[12] Robert Baer’s blurb for the revised and updated edition of David Ray Griffin’s Debunking 9/11 Debunking March 2007 http://www.amazon.com/Debunking-11-Mechanics-Defenders-Conspiracy/dp/product-description/156656686X
[13] Robert David Steele’s review of the book, 9/11 Synthetic Terror by Webster Tarpley Oct. 7, 2006 http://www.amazon.com/dp/0930852370
[14] Robet David Steele interviewed on The Alex Jones Show Oct. 27, 2006 http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/october2006/271006googlecia.htm
[15] Letter to Congress signed by 25 intelligence service and law enforcement Sept. 13, 2004 http://www.pogo.org/m/hsp/hsp-911commission-040913.pdf
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Posted: 9/24/2007 5:29:26 PM | The modern conspiracies are so cloaked in mis-information that it's difficult to see them clearly at this point. It takes time to flush out conspiracies correctly so the real questions can be asked.
This is mine....
If the Russians were so much more experienced in space travel than the americans when Apollo supposedly shot to the moon...why didn't they follow? It has been well documented that even american scientists publicly stated that they were years behind the USSR space advancements. How then suddenly did Apollo manage to get there, get back and land all in one piece?
How is it that they haven't been able to do it again since the Apollo missions? How have they had less success with the space shuttle a multi million dollar design machine yet they were able to re-enter orbit with the thinnest portion of apollo being only 1/8inch aluminum?
Why haven't the chinese gone?
I don't buy the argument that once the Yanks got there Russia stopped it's space program. What would be the purpose of that?
What about the Van Allen radiation belt? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Allen_radiation_belt | |
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Posted: 9/24/2007 8:58:25 PM |
this is a whacky one just for huukdonfoniks
Been to the moon or not??? Even though there is some interesting evidence that make you wonder???? Its not have they been or not.... (Since they left enough stuff behind to pretty close the case on going).......but did they go in the Apollo program or like so many of the "ex army/navy /airforce" types not to mention the imfamous "Commander X" that tells of the OTHER secret space program using alien technology.........Yes folks to the moon and mars in real space ships...... | |
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Posted: 9/25/2007 7:10:48 AM | The NAU (North American Union) and the Amero are fact (at least that is my understanding)... it's the motivation behind it that are theories.
The rights that have been granted to FEMA and the so-called "concentration camps"
Hurricane Katrina was mismanaged in an interesting fashion.
Global Warming/dimming vs the "debunkers"
The Disclosure Project
The one I'm currently trying to research is the so-called Planet X or Planet Nibiru. Supposedly, NASA and the government know this planet exists, but I haven't found any documents yet, to prove it's existence. I'm quite certain it's a bunch of hog-wash, but thought I'd throw that one out there, just in case someone can offer a great web link I'm not familiar with. | |
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Posted: 9/25/2007 7:18:42 AM |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Allen_radiation_belt
Van Allen himself has stated that the radiation belt wouldn't be an obstacle to outer space travel. You're simply not in it for long enough for it to be a problem. | |
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Posted: 9/25/2007 8:13:11 AM | | thanks for the link... I skimmed it briefly, due to time contraints. Interesting reading. Will have to study it more closely. At brief skim, it did not mention any mystery planet, or newly found planet (unless I missed it). Possibly the point you are making is that if it did exist within this belt, it would case us no harm? For those that are not familiar... Planet Nibiru (or Planet X) supposedly crosses paths 2012, during our magnetic pole reversal, which would create a weather doomsday scenario, due to the effect of our gravitational pull. The "conspiracy" being that our government is aware of this, and not forwarning us to prepare (due to fear of mass hysteria) Supposedly, it will eliminate 2/3 of world population. So far, I'm assuming it to be hog-wash, but the web videos sure make a good horror flick. | |
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Posted: 9/25/2007 6:42:38 PM | 911 was definately an inside job, anyone who still doesn't accept this is will understand soon enough.
Aids was a man made genocide planted in africa.
We are being monitored and branded (chipped) to be controlled in a police state of martial law.
Bush and bin laden are allies.
The 13 trillion dollars missing from the US treasury was the hush money paid to the US team that perpetrated the murders and demolitions of the twin towers and started the greed war in Iraq.
As Bush's final moment nears we will most likely see the complete Annihilation of some small country by means of nuclear warhead. most likely Iran. | |
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Posted: 10/6/2007 3:20:50 PM | Triple Threat
How much do you believe what you said? Are you willing to put your actions behind your words?
Let's say by January 22nd of 2009 if some small country is not annihiliated by nukes, you have to state on a whole new thread how wrong you and your like were?
In turn, if indeed we do, I'll be sure to do the same thing! | |
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Posted: 10/6/2007 4:06:38 PM | | 13 trillion dollars in hush money. WTF does anybody need a trillion dollars, that a few billion won't do? | |
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Posted: 10/6/2007 4:22:41 PM | I would seriously like some feedback from posters, regarding my post in message 157
Especially all you people who do your utmost to discredit anyone with an opposing view to you. And you know who you are.
Are these people TRUTHERS, NUTJOBS, AND CONSPIRACY WHACK JOBS TOO?
Thoughts?
I thank you. | |
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Posted: 10/6/2007 7:53:50 PM | Well, considering I'm probably one of those people you are addressing.....
That there is a lot of confusion, and shoddy investigation, concerning 9/11, on that we probably agree. As to the why ? I strongly believe it's due to an administration that was asleep at the wheel over the most obvious threat to the nation.
The 9/11 conspiracy theorists who argue that no commercial airliners were used turn me off totally to the idea. There's more than enough evidence to prove that.
All the warnings, the Phoenix memo, the arrest of someone training to do exactly the type of attack done that day, the evidence concerning that, his confession ...
That's the best proof that the government wasn't directly behind it, except for allowing it a far greater chance of success by doing nothing. Had they directed the attack, at least some mention of the threat would have been made. Not having done that makes them look like idiots.
Releasing Operation Northwood to the public in April 2001 ? A plan that essentially mirrors this type of operation, and proves that the American government could actually propose such a plan ?
Not too bright either...if you are about to do it.
Bush's father meeting with the prime suspects father at a business meeting the same day ? Again, not too bright. The President's brother working for a security firm covering the WTC ? The only thing they didn't do was all wear clothes advertising it : " We're planning this massive conspiracy, and all I got was this lousy T-shirt"
The concept that buildings could be pre-wired with explosives that survive plane hits ? Sorry.....doesn't work for me. Not after reading the type of damage done by those planes impact.
All the people on them no longer here ? Their body parts and DNA recovered at the scene ? As I've said, all it would take is one survivor getting an independent test done to see if it really was them. If it is, then the conspiracy involves not only all that happened on that day, but another group killing these passengers and somehow getting their remains into all those buildings unnoticed. Again, doesn't work for me.
The concept that the conspiracy theorists try and make those buildings appear far stronger than they actually were before collapse, to help their theory ? Not supported by the historical testimony of the best witnesses, the NYFD.
They seem to argue that the NTFD and NYPD are all in on this conspiracy, by their silence. No one speaks out against their murder ? Again, doesn't fit...so I must acquit.
No WMD's found in Iraq, when that was far easier to pull off ? Again, that makes them look bad. If 9/'11 leads to Iraq (and certainly the use of it by this administration in this regard confirms that) , then failing to find what they told the world they KNEW was there was a critical error.
All these things and more, plus the complexity of such a plan to even begin with (with no credible person coming forth to point it out) , all this tells me that those planes hit the buildings in a terrorist act and the resulting damage collapsed them.
If you want to fit that scenario in with your conspiracy theory , I'll perhaps start to agree with at least some of your points.
If it starts with exceptionally weak (or no) commercial airliners hitting those buildings, and then those buildings being made to look far stronger (when actually seen as possible collapses approaching long before the "charges" were blown) - then we will remain on either side of this Great Divide. | |
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Posted: 10/6/2007 8:40:45 PM | Thank you for your response MG. YOU were NOT one of whom I was referring to either. I'm not the sharpest stick in the pile, but I'm not a stump either.
I do not cater to theory. I cater to fact. I question the Pentagon for the simple reason that NO CLEAR FOOTAGE has ever been shown. WHY? Cheney's remarks while in a meeting referring to something 30 miles out etc.. NO defensive batteries came into play defending the PENTAGON? NO fighter jets scrambled yet they were only 15 miles away? FIFTEEN MILES AWAY? Very curious indeed when you ask just these four questions and no one can give you an answer.
I ask again. Are the people I quote from patriotsquestion911 whackjobs too? I think not. I think they are highly intelligent people who may be confused over numerous things that do not make sense and question what does not mirror reality.
I thank you.
EDIT@ MG BELOW: Fair enough. I can accept that answer. What about the other three questions? | |
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Posted: 10/6/2007 8:54:38 PM |
I do not cater to theory. I cater to fact. I question the Pentagon for the simple reason that NO CLEAR FOOTAGE has ever been shown. WHY?
Again, from my work experience, I have an easy answer for that. I've worked with surveillance cameras since 1996. That qualifies me, as someone with eleven years of working with the technology, in commenting.
Those CCTV cameras are directed against human threats. People, car bombs, entrances, secure areas ....etc. Especially then, even at the Pentagon, they were not high quality cameras. At that time, videotape recorders were used , at maximum economy for tape.
They weren't there to spot crashing planes, especially in an area under renovation. It's no surprise that cameras surrounding the Pentagon didn't catch it either. They weren't protecting it, they were protecting those same things I mentioned - the obvious human threat areas.
They are not high speed, and won't reveal much information because of that limitation. They are not high quality either, because (at that time) tape recorders were being used at maximum economy.
They are one heck of a lot better today, with DVD recording or hard disk. They would still face the same limitations of being typically directed to those "high threat" areas. They are still heavily compressed . | |
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Posted: 10/8/2007 12:27:58 AM | September 23 2007
Seven CIA Veterans Challenge 9/11 Commission Report that is very cool, but i hope for their sake, that they are able to disappear to tora bora or something, or maybe somewhere in louisiana. they've got some colossal gonads, and corn cobs between their ears, if you ask me.
but seriously, all these conspiracies pale in comparison to the attempted frame job on orenthal. he was clearly innocent, luckily we had such a sharp group of jurors to see through the smoke screen. phew!!
and we all know that tupac faked his death, killed biggie, and is now living back in l.a. right?? | |
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Posted: 10/8/2007 12:46:01 AM | I don't trust you watchman. You are a misdirector I believe, how nutty it is to say there is no conspiracy. What idiot believes that?
What about voter fraud? Look up Diebold voter fraud or www.blackboxvoting.org
How about secret societies and the presidents that is a proven and provable conspiracy imo. If you add in the largest inverted pentagram within the roads at the white house you have a great start to your novel. Google earth that or the pentagram er ah pena....
What about war profit and conflict of interest? Or an owned media where you can research the owners etc..
You are full of crap and you know it. Now go tell your buddy to boot my comments and erase my profile like you right wing goonies do very often.
No conspiracy, no wonder you are alone. You are a misdirection lying fool.
jmo | |
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Posted: 10/8/2007 12:46:35 AM | Again, from my work experience, I have an easy answer for that. I've worked with surveillance cameras since 1996. That qualifies me, as someone with eleven years of working with the technology, in commenting.
Those CCTV cameras are directed against human threats. People, car bombs, entrances, secure areas ....etc. Especially then, even at the Pentagon, they were not high quality cameras. At that time, videotape recorders were used , at maximum economy for tape.
They weren't there to spot crashing planes, especially in an area under renovation. It's no surprise that cameras surrounding the Pentagon didn't catch it either. They weren't protecting it, they were protecting those same things I mentioned - the obvious human threat areas.
They are not high speed, and won't reveal much information because of that limitation. They are not high quality either, because (at that time) tape recorders were being used at maximum economy.
They are one heck of a lot better today, with DVD recording or hard disk. They would still face the same limitations of being typically directed to those "high threat" areas. They are still heavily compressed .
c'mon man, don't you ever get tired of throwing out unrealistic explanations for every thing. in sales we have a saying " throw the shit at the wall, and see if it sticks." there are human feces all over these threads, it's downright unsanitary. that building is the most heavily monitored building in the entire world, the cameras used have no economical limitations, we all know that that is ridiculous. | |
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Posted: 10/8/2007 7:13:33 AM | Wanna know whats REALLY going on? Watch 'Zeitgeist The Movie(on google videos). Then while watching replace the words 'bankers' , 'communists' and 'terrorists' with zionists. It's the zionist agenda that is crushing the world, it's the real reason we are in Irag, etc.
The Federal Reserve bank is privately owned by 6 zionist agents who as part of their agenda wring a country dry and leave it destitute, its people starving. Thats what happened in WWI, during the Russian Revolution. Replace 'Bolzhevicks' and 'reds' with zionists. | |
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Posted: 6/6/2008 12:30:25 AM | 9/11 being an inside job as government sponsored terrorism. That's the most evident conspiracy out there I think. I followed the money and the party that stood to gain the most by miles is the bush administration and the peopel above him. WMD bullshit. we've been duped big time. More compelling evidence on that subject than any other I find.
videogoogle.com and search 911 mysteries. if its still up. shows how the world trade center was designed to withstand multiple hits frm jetliners as the engineer discussed in the documentary. that wiht bombs in th ebuildings, evidence of that, NORAD standign down the whoel time. big mess, too many quesitons, wouldn't know where to begin really. | |
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