| If God is omnipotent, why didn't he foresee the Flood?
Posted: 6/20/2007 10:46:13 AM | | Of what use is it to ask these questions, maybe there are answer to them, at the same time i dont think humans are wise enough to answer them, Its like walking into the gym for the first time and trying to lift the 600 lb barbell, if people are serious about learning start with a workable weight rather then bite off more then you can chew, and then every little piece you aquire will help contribute to the big picture and possible personal growth. | |
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| If God is omnipotent, why didn't he foresee the Flood?
Posted: 6/20/2007 2:05:41 PM | I looked up the word OMNIPOTENT. All the definitions in different dictionaries indicate the same thing... but none indicate ALL-KNOWING.. just ALL POWERFUL. So maybe God doesn't know everything... but only the things HE has planned for the future:
Main Entry: 1om·nip·o·tent
Pronunciation: -t&nt
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin omnipotent-, omnipotens, from omni- + potent-, potens potent
having virtually unlimited authority or influence
omnipotent
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adjective [not gradable]
having the power to do anything | |
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| If God is omnipotent, why didn't he foresee the Flood?
Posted: 6/20/2007 2:31:36 PM | How boring... to have immeasurable knowledge and strength... no help required, no need to employ anyone to do anything, no need to expect anymore than you are going to get.
All this tells me is that such a God created toys (albeit thinking animations) to play with, to observe and (when the time is right) destroy if we do not blindly recognize it.
I kid you not, believers of this ludicrous God you worship. This God has nothing but killing on Its mind... or does IT?
I will sit on that fence, because for me the jury is going to be out... forever. | |
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| If God is omnipotent, why didn't he foresee the Flood?
Posted: 6/20/2007 2:57:13 PM | | God did see the flood that is why he had Noah build the ark. I believe when the sons of God ( that's the fallen angels) came to earth and had babies with the daughters of men giants were made they were un-natural. The thoughs were nothing but perverse. Only noah was pure in his generation which means he was not part of the hybrid race of fallen angels and human. He also was a man of God and so was his family. Which is why God had him build the ark. | |
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| If God is omnipotent, why didn't he foresee the Flood?
Posted: 6/20/2007 3:11:19 PM | Whitegirl
Then your God chose to see what It already knew was to be. Tell me, when he cast Satan out of heaven along with his motley crew, did It see what was to be? Or did It conveniently choose to forget? | |
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| If God is omnipotent, why didn't he foresee the Flood?
Posted: 6/20/2007 3:15:39 PM | | WhiteGirl420, I think what the original poster meant was in the context of a much longer timeframe. (infinity) Not like, God decides one day to flood the world, and tells Noah a few weeks in advance to build an ark. If God knows everything, including the future, he knew before he even created man that eventually he'd wipe out all humanity, save one man and his family. | |
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| If God is omnipotent, why didn't he foresee the Flood?
Posted: 6/20/2007 3:39:06 PM | Sky why don't you ask God yourself......
I'm asking you because you seem to have all the answers.
Oh wait you don't believe in Him
Wrong... I'm not an atheist
so tell me why should I bother answering the question you ask when you will just scoff at my answer?
I don't think the questions are so difficult and I am not here to scoff, though it's terrible difficult not to sometimes.
I never bother you with your opinion as ridiculous as it may be
Call my opinions what you will me dear, I really don't mind.
but you always seem to have a problem with the way I view things.......Hmmmmm I wonder
Wrong again, I find them interesting. So much so I want to know more. Let's have some rational dialogue. Enlighten me and we shall see if anything comes of it.
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| If God is omnipotent, why didn't he foresee the Flood?
Posted: 6/22/2007 10:09:53 AM | | When it comes to God why dont we all just laugh at ourselves, we know nothing, some say oh it must be boring to be God or god must be this or god just isnt, they are all assumptions, and thats all people are doing here, The only thing we can do without making assumptions is to see that virtues are something that are the fundamentals of all religions and forms of spirituality, Learn about virtues and you will learn something that will improve the quality of life, making assumptions about God isnt going to get you anywhere. | |
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| If God is omnipotent, why didn't he foresee the Flood?
Posted: 6/29/2007 8:00:09 PM | | God did not only foresee the rebelion of the devil, he planned it. It is all part of his plan and purpose. God is not fixin anything, everything is happening exactly the way He has planned it to. | |
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| If God is omnipotent, why didn't he foresee the Flood?
Posted: 2/8/2008 6:15:30 PM | Luther,
How can you say God planned the rebellion of Satan. You don't have any scripture to back that up. He gave all free will and free choice. I think someone needs to lay off the sacramental wine. | |
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| If God is omnipotent, why didn't he foresee the Flood?
Posted: 2/8/2008 7:57:53 PM | I believe that Gods will for man kind was 'perverted" so to speak, when angels mated with mortal woman and the offspring produced ,{the Nephilm}, genetically altered Gods design for man kind. Noahs family, was the only one left with the genetic traits left pure from that perversion.
The flood did not stop that co breeding , as there are references to it continueing afterwards. Did God know this was going to occur? For sure , but his policy of free will extended untill the very last chance of his will ( plan) was left. Then, when the last chance existed , he interfered and big time, witness the flood.
He also knows the path we heading in today is usre to lead to destruction, and he has told us of his plan to once again 'interfere " to stop his will from prceeding, that is why we have been warned about the tribualtion and the rapture, another " Noahs Ark" in a way.
For me, I look at it this way. As a parent, did you ever know your kids would do something you dissaproved with , yet let that happen? For sure, I have. Its called " letting them leave the nest" , in our parlance. There comes a time, when you let your children make mistakes, you know they will make them, but have to let them fly, fall and hurt at times. | |
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| If God is omnipotent, why didn't he foresee the Flood?
Posted: 2/9/2008 5:14:28 PM | Hmmm...sometimes banishing and destroying does fix the problem. Ancient Greeks used osrtracism on their own people who had gained too much power...banished for a set number of years. Destroying whole groups which fixed it so that they no longer bothered them Maybe they took their cue from god.
Lucifers rebellion? A lot os not known by the general public about the ins and outs of that whole deal....maybe he did have some foreknowledge of it and took steps to insure a win.
Do you make plans way ahead of time? Like...got enough to pay off your tax bill next year...right now? Or, like many others, will you wait till it comes around to deal with it? Perhaps god operates along the same lines.
He already has it written that he wins the next battle....kinda like modern day propaganda maybe.
Anyways...why worry about who thinks they are in charge? I worry more about how to keep this wagon on the tracks on a day-to-day basis! | |
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| If God is omnipotent, why didn't he foresee the Flood?
Posted: 3/16/2008 9:24:00 AM |
. . .the rebellion of Lucifer. . .
There's no Biblical account of a fallen angel named Lucifer. Isaiah 14 in the KJV uses the word Lucifer, and it's the only place in the entire Bible that word is used. It's only used in the KJV translation. Lucifer in Isaiah 14 is King Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon, not an angel fallen from heaven. Simply reading Isaiah 14 clears up any confusion on the issue.
If God is omnipotent why didn't he foresee. . .the need to wipe out the world in the Flood?
Who says He didn't foresee it?
If he's all powerful, why the need to banish and destroy, rather than simply fixing the problems?
Since He is all powerful, He's able to banish and destroy. By banishing and destroying the wicked during the flood, he did fix that problem! 
Isaiah
55:8~9"For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor are your ways My ways," declares YHWH. For {as} the heavens are higher than the earth, So are My ways higher than your ways And My thoughts than your thoughts." | |
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| If God is omnipotent, why didn't he foresee the Flood?
Posted: 3/16/2008 9:50:48 AM |
If God is omnipotent why didn't he foresee the rebellion of Lucifer and the need to wipe out the world in the Flood? If he's all powerful, why the need to banish and destroy, rather than simply fixing the problems?
Flood? What flood? We know for a fact that the biblical flood is complete BS & never happened. Was there another one while I wasn't looking? | |
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| If God is omnipotent, why didn't he foresee the Flood?
Posted: 3/16/2008 12:27:48 PM | Given free will I doubt those who take the bible literally will ever be in a position to use it to their advantage.
The story of a Great Flood sent by a deity or deities to destroy civilization as an act of divine retribution is a widespread theme among many cultural myths. Though it is best known by the Biblical story of Noah, it is also well known in other versions, such as stories of Matsya in the Hindu Puranas, Deucalion in Greek mythology and Utnapishtim in the Epic of Gilgamesh.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_flood
The very beginning of the Bible declares quite clearly that this is mythology and in no way to be taken literally.
A woman sits down and begins to have a very intelligent conversation with a snake.
This is after that woman is created from a spare rib taken from her sleeping husband.
From there on you have another story of a talking donkey, a talking bush, a man whose walking stick turns into a snake.
You have a man taking two of every kind of animal on to a boat. You have people walking on water, virgins giving birth, people resurrecting from graves.
And what has our culture done with all of this? We have taken it literally and will attack and kill anyone who dares challenge our interpretation.
Look around at the insanity that pervades the world and you will see what the scripture meant when it said, "be not a minister of the letter, for the letter kills". 2 Corinthians 3:6
http://www.hiddenmeanings.com/biblemythology.htm | |
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| If God is omnipotent, why didn't he foresee the Flood?
Posted: 3/16/2008 1:11:25 PM |
"be not a minister of the letter, for the letter kills". 2 Corinthians 3:6
Slightly out of context Sky - Paul is taking about the ten commandments of Moses - being the letter - I believe to use that for all of scripture is incorrect. The Law was brought in for judgment as in Romans - The Law brought death because no one fulfilled it, whereas the spirit through Christ brought life. And then we get into Grace as opposed to works of the Law (letter). However, that is not the topic of this thread.
Scripture is a mix of prophecy, allegory and history. Discerning what is what is key. I do see a problem with a total literal interpretation of the bible for sure. | |
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| If God is omnipotent, why didn't he foresee the Flood?
Posted: 3/16/2008 3:56:36 PM | Dude...
Don't know if you're an atheist or not (yet)
If you ARE an atheist then methinks you're just stirring trouble....
But if you're not, then welcome to your first step to athehood. 
Step 1
THINKING
Congratulations on having taken this step which will lead you into a new life.
Subsequent steps vary....
For me
Step 2 was REALISATION
Realisation at what a fool I'd been. (Took me a while to stop beating myself up over it)
Step 3 RECOVERY
Oh NO, there's no god.... what am i going to do? (This was hard) but then I realised even more.... Hey.. if i've made it this far, why should it be so hard to carry on
Step 4 ACCEPTANCE
Ok, so there's no god. I was an idiot. Never mind.
At least now you don't have to worry about a little black mark going against your name every time you masturbate.
More and more people are waking up to this so RIGHT ON DUDE  
Disclaimer
This was a fun response... not in the least bit to sound condescending or anything negative. It was written like this to bring a smile to some people. Not to offend anyone. | |
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