| Television license
Posted: 2/9/2008 4:14:06 AM | Thought I'd ask a quick question relation to the subject, if anyone knows.
If I just watched programs on my pc from t'internet and didnt watch television at all would I still be required to purchase a television license? | |
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Posted: 2/9/2008 4:17:42 AM | I was about to ask the same question.
I think the answer is that if you only watch programmes that have been shown,ie not live or as they are going out.
I think that means that i can watch programmes such as Ashes to ashes on the bbc Iplayer without getting hammered for a tv license.But untill i find out for certain i aint going to risk it. | |
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44Boz
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Joined: 6/22/2007
Msg: 78 | |
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| Television license
Posted: 2/9/2008 4:32:35 AM |
You need a TV licence to use any television receiving equipment such as a TV set, set-top box, video or DVD recorder, computer or mobile phone to watch or record TV programmes as they are being shown on TV
Taken from the website given.
As my pc is unable to recieve telly programmes as they are being shown i guess that means i will be able to view/download programmes from the iplayer. | |
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Posted: 2/9/2008 4:35:28 AM | You need a TV licence to use any television receiving equipment such as a TV set, set-top box, video or DVD recorder, computer or mobile phone to watch or record TV programmes as they are being shown on TV.
Ok so thats cleared that up.
But if I only use a pc, I am still required to purchase a tv license, thats just pants imo. And who will know if I've watched a tv show on say BBCiplayer?
And I cannot find anywhere on the bbciplayer website where its says I need a license to stream the programs. | |
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Posted: 2/9/2008 6:08:27 AM | I do not believe that you do need a licence to stream if you not own a tv card in ur pc. it is an area the Beeb has thought aboot for some time.
Personaly I would pay the licence if I did intend to dload any BBC programme. People in this country whinge aboot the licence, but the Beeb is still a quality channel that today still creates shows that other channels would find it hard to produce. I for one support it and hope it continues for a long time. | |
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Posted: 2/9/2008 8:17:17 AM | Many may whinge about the fee for a TV licence, and rightly so in lots of cases. Take a seniors state pension the fee for a licence is approx one weeks pension. now if some who are in full time employment had to pay the equivilent to one weeks wage. for a TV licence, I reckon there would be a lot more whinging.
It is outdated and we should not have to pay for it through a licence. Make all radio and TV commercial. They all advertise anyway. | |
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Posted: 2/9/2008 8:35:46 AM | I dont own a television.Nor do i wish to own a television.I have not owned a television since i bought my own house.
And that is my choice.
I do pay for my broadband service.
Again that is my choice.
And that is why i will not watch the bbc iplayer if it requires a license fee. | |
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Posted: 2/9/2008 8:48:54 AM | But I cannot see how it can be policed?
If you do not watch tele as you obviously havn't got one, then how can people know that you have watched bbciplayer.
Unless they track you from your IP number, and then what?
Do you have the tv licensing people on your doorstep suggesting you get a license because you have watched bbciplayer?
This is what I am trying to establish.
What the law is regarding this issue.
Edit: I found this it may help others, but I think its still pants.
Do I need a licence if I haven't got a TV and I watch telly on my laptop?
The law requires everyone, including students, to be covered by a licence if they use any device to receive television programmes as they're being shown on TV. This includes any TV set, DVD or video recorder, digital box, PC, laptop or mobile phone.
(If you use a digital box with a music system or another device that can only be used to produce sounds and can't display TV programmes, and you don't install or use any other TV receiving equipment, you don't need a TV Licence.)
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Posted: 2/9/2008 8:55:21 AM | ^^ I dont know about a bbciplayer ^^^
But if you buy a tv then by law the seller has to send on your name and address to the televisison licencing, wether they would do this with a bbciplayer I wouldnt know..
Cant say when the last time was I saw a tv detector van.. | |
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Posted: 2/9/2008 9:02:59 AM | If you PC had a card top receive telly then yes you pay. I havn't used iplayer, does it stream the info as it is being broadcast? If it does, then it would be the same as the telly card, and you need a licence. If not, I guess not. That's an interesting point aboot tracking the IP..I never thought of that, or if it's possible, but it would be a good idea mabbe.
Long live the Beeb and it's licence!:D | |
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Posted: 2/9/2008 9:56:04 AM | ^^^^^^^^^^^ No it doesnt stream the info as its being broadcast.
Given that you need a tv card to recieve programmes as they are being shown and if you dont have one you dont need a license i think its safe to say that if you download or watch a stream of a programme on the iplayer then you dont need a license.
Thats what i understand anyway..
ps. Yes iplayer works...But it streams prigrammes after they have been shown..A bit like recording a programme i guess...  | |
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Posted: 2/9/2008 9:59:16 AM | I am one of the evil ones who doesnt pay for a tv license, i have indeed been "threatened" on numerous occations that if i dont pay then i would indeed end up with other such criminals including murderers, peodifiles and rapists! It makes me laugh that in a so called democratic country with all these rights that we have, and we dont have the simple right to say "no i dont want to have bcc 1, 2 and all the rest on my tv/radio so could you please block it" Instead you are forced to pay for a tv license that you dont want! Its also insulting to the blind, deaf and pensioners who shouldnt have to pay anything at all!
Only way to get rid of this stupid law is grow some balls, stick together and say enough is enough! Instead we moan, tut and do nothing. | |
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Posted: 2/9/2008 10:02:23 AM | | But even by growing balls you still get fined, no way round that one, well there is, buy a t.v license or throw the tele down the well, along with the people that made it law to have to purchase a t.v bloody license in the first place. | |
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Posted: 2/9/2008 10:10:19 AM | If you have a receiver that is capable of receiving television pictures as they are transmitted then you have to pay a license for that item.That means televisions,be it black and white or colour,and computers fitted with a working pci card.
No telly.No pci card and watching prerecorded programmes after they have been shown on the telly? You should be ok..
Well i bloody hope so...Cos i just watched the last episode of Life on mars  | |
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Posted: 2/9/2008 10:18:47 AM | I don't have a licence as I never watch television programmes (too much rubbish on). I do use a television for playing dvd films and for playing Playstation/Gamecube games. I also use a PC (obviously).
I don't watch or record tv programs on my television or my pc nor do I play pre recorded television programmes.
This is perfectly legal. Please do not be conned by the confusing way that the requirement for a licence is written. | |
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Posted: 2/9/2008 10:58:20 AM | | There is a way round it and that everyone stick at their guns and say enough is enough! Im not saying go on riots and smash the hell out of currys :D Just if everyone stopped paying for this stealth tax then we wouldnt have to pay it anymore. Isnt it true that they cant even detect if your tv recieves anything anymore because of digital tv? And they will never be able to aquire information from cable firms due to the data protection act? | |
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Posted: 2/9/2008 11:01:51 AM | | Im in favour of keeping the fee, it's not just tv it funds but radio and the website is very good too. It is not answerable to shareholders as has previously been stated. My daughter uses the website all the time and watches cbbc rather than any other kids show. It's not inundated with adverts to buy crap. There is a lot of variety in the programmes although too many repeats, but i'd rather watch those than some of the shite on commercil tv. The comedy is innovative generally starting on radio 4 then bbc3 then to mainstream most of our popular . The documentaries are superb, the educational programmes too. All in all I think it is worth it. | |
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Posted: 2/9/2008 11:46:12 AM | Dont you think it is wrong to make people pay for a service that they dont want though anarkaos? There should be the option rather then you have to pay! Lets throw this at you and lets see what thoughts it generates! The BBC produced 56% less programs in 2006/7 yet the license fee will keep rising with a estimated cost by 2012 of about £151 a year! Seems a fair deal...
The average viewing figures were 10million a day compared to over 11million for itv. More people are watching a channel that is free.
Charge people who want to watch it, i dont wanna watch it and dont want to pay! | |
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Posted: 2/9/2008 12:58:33 PM | This is the reply i was given by the bbc when i asked if i needed a tv license to watch programmes on the bbc iplayer:
Thank you for contacting BBC iPlayer support team. I understand you would like to know if you need a TV licence to use BBC iPlayer. As stated in the FAQ's you do not need a television licence to watch television programmes on the current version of the BBC iPlayer. You will need to be covered by a TV licence if and when the BBC provides a feature that enables you to watch 'live' TV programmes on any later version of BBC iPlayer, which has this option. Your TV licence for your home address will cover your use of the BBC iPlayer in your home (and outside the home if you use BBC iPlayer on a laptop or any other device which is powered solely by its own internal batteries). A 'live' TV programme is a programme, which is watched or recorded at the same time (or virtually the same time) as it is being broadcast or otherwise distributed to members of the public. As a general rule, if a person is watching a programme on a computer or other device at the same time as it is being shown on TV then the programme is 'live'. This is sometimes known as simulcasting. You cannot currently watch 'live' TV programmes as part of BBC iPlayer, however, we hope to offer this function in the future. Once again thank you for contacting BBC iPlayer; don't hesitate to contact us again if you have any further issues, comments or enquiries. Regards Claire Louise BBC iPlayer
I hope this helps? | |
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Posted: 2/9/2008 1:03:49 PM | Thanks for the info. 
I am now off to sell all my tele's
I do like what the BBC has to offer, but I certainly do not think its worth the money they charge. | |
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Posted: 2/9/2008 1:59:22 PM | | the television license should be abolished , no one should have to have a license to have a television i think its outdated now. a pay as you watch scheme would be better. | |
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Nergal
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Joined: 4/29/2007
Msg: 98 | |
| Television license
Posted: 2/11/2008 1:58:01 AM | | I had a visit last week. No detector van just a bloke with a clipboard. He had a look in my front room then went off ... So he didnt even check the pc or or anything. | |
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Nergal
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Joined: 4/29/2007
Msg: 99 | |
| Television license
Posted: 2/11/2008 1:58:20 AM | | I had a visit last week. No detector van just a bloke with a clipboard. He had a look in my front room then went off ... So he didnt even check the pc or or anything. | |
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Posted: 2/11/2008 5:23:16 AM | | I like the TV license as it pays my mum and step dads wages, much prefer paying £135 a year on tv license than 10 odd grand on income tax. | |
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