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| Doctor, doctor - give me the news. Got a bad case of loving you. Help?
Posted: 1/5/2007 9:29:51 AM | Why do you fail to recognize and understand the terms of the Oath and professional certification that bound your doctor into NOT having a relationship with you??
Why you could not understand the risks involved for him - and why did you develop an obsession with him.
Madam, you may blame your neurological symptoms on Lyme's z on your OCD and depression - but your diagnostic logic is in error.
Yes, it has a neurological component, no doubt.
Chronic neurological symptoms include decreased concentration, irritability, memory and sleep disorders, and nerve damage in the arms and legs.
Your behavioral and mood problems are not due to Lyme's Disease. They are due to metabolic disturbances, self initiated. | |
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| Doctor, doctor - give me the news. Got a bad case of loving you. Help?
Posted: 1/5/2007 6:53:39 PM |
Your behavioral and mood problems are not due to Lyme's Disease. They are due to metabolic disturbances, self initiated.
Where in the world did you come up with that? I hope you realize that there are doctors who believe 'schitzophrenia' is not really 'mental illness', but rather an infection that manifests itself mentally. I mean, c'mon - the brain is merely another organ - the least understood organ, at that. And one of its 'jobs' is emotion. If my kidney gets infected, or my heart gets infected, or my lung gets infected - the outward signs of any of these infections will relate to that organ's 'function', be it filtering waste products, pumping blood, or oxygen utilization.
But even so, I'm not going to blame Lyme for my feelings here by saying Lyme caused them. My feelings for this doctor would be there, regardless of the Lyme.
And why should I respect the 'laws' which essentially ban a doctor from dating a patient anyway? For one thing, I am a 'former' patient now and have been for almost 2 years now - so no laws would be broken here. Plus, even if I were still his patient, I have little respect for a law that basically overrides human emotion in order to protect someone's financial interests. Nobody on this forum has any proof that romantic love between a doctor and a patient is 'impossible'. That's merely what the medical and legal establishment have fed us over the years. I can only hope that MORE patients will have the guts to do what I did.
Yes, I want his name, number and address.
You have lost all credibility.
I'm tempted. Fact is though - I couldn't risk hurting him like that. Even though I know I could not sue him, I would worry that somebody on this forum might not feel the same. | |
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| Doctor, doctor - give me the news. Got a bad case of loving you. Help?
Posted: 1/5/2007 7:01:44 PM | | "And why should I respect the 'laws' which essentially ban a doctor from dating a patient anyway?" Why should you respect any law? You haven't had to, HE has!! Sorry but no woman is worth any many risking his career, I'm sure HE knows that. You seem to be the one not getting the message. You said over and how how much you looovee him!! RIGHT, yet you would have no qualms respecting a law that's meant to protect HIS reputation and career. That's NOT loovvveee, that's obsession. You're fooling noone but yourself. | |
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| Doctor, doctor - give me the news. Got a bad case of loving you. Help?
Posted: 1/5/2007 7:12:28 PM | Sorry Blaze, but girl, you sound like a stalker.
Maybe you should talk to a therapist. What you have described is not normal & rational behavior. Why are you still calling him two years after he was your doctor? Not your boyfriend, not a husband, not a one night stand, YOUR DOCTOR.
And leaving messages? That is admisable in court. You are lucky he does not have a retraining order against you.
I would let it go before you end up in trouble.
Good luck. | |
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| Doctor, doctor - give me the news. Got a bad case of loving you. Help?
Posted: 1/5/2007 7:32:33 PM | | When I was pregnant with my daughter I wasn't with her father by choice...one doctor that I saw during my pregnancy( I had high blood pressure..)He always said I was too beautiful and nice to be "alone"..and that the Father was insane not to see that I am such a "catch".That was very nice to be told that..and he was flirty...but I just took it as that..flirting!.I flirt all the time..doesn't mean I am interested in all the people I flirt with..its just my personality...and alot of men have taken it as I am interested when I was wasn't.If he was indeed interested in you...it sounded like he was playing with your emotions...you dont need someone who does that... | |
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| Doctor, doctor - give me the news. Got a bad case of loving you. Help?
Posted: 1/5/2007 7:52:10 PM |
Sorry but no woman is worth any many risking his career, I'm sure HE knows that.
Looks like society has poisoned you, too, huh? Kind of sad, I think. I mean, of course no woman should be more important than a man's blessed career, right?
Why are you still calling him two years after he was your doctor?
Why is he still accepting my calls? Maybe we 'both' need therapy, huh? - because his accepting my calls two years after the fact is no more 'rational' than my placing the calls.
By the way, my new Lyme doctor gave me a hug at the end of my visit earlier this week - and he gave me his cell phone number. Should he be fearful here?
Blaze, there is only one thing that can keep you from being sent to the funny farm right now.
Honey, you need to get freakin' laid.
At least somebody's talking some sense now;) | |
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| Doctor, doctor - give me the news. Got a bad case of loving you. Help?
Posted: 1/5/2007 8:00:15 PM | I cannot believe this thread has not been deleted or locked. As someone trained in this field, I am truly concerned for the OP, because she is unable to let go of something that does not exist. 2 years of trying to communicate with him and no response on his end is truly frightening.
OP you need to let it go! There never was, never has been nor never will be anything between you and this man and you are indeed stalking him.
Move on with your life, seek a counsellor who can help you work this out and deal with it rationally and stop deluding yourself!
Please for your own mental health!
He is not accepting your calls, by your own admission they are going to his answering machine!!
HELLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! is anyone home!?!? | |
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| Doctor, doctor - give me the news. Got a bad case of loving you. Help?
Posted: 1/5/2007 8:08:53 PM | | I stopped reading after page 2 of postings so I may have missed some important information regarding this scenario. My guess is that he enjoyed flirting with you and enjoyed the attention you paid him. Most men have a fantasy that every woman finds them incredibly attractive and irristable and was probably just hoping for a quick liason between you. I beleive from what I read in your original posting that he was married or possibly already in a LTR. I have met enough of them to know the signs. The incident with him standing in front of the door looking at you sounds to me like he was saying Im sorry... please dont mess up my life. As far as the phone calls and messages you are able to leave on his home phone ... I assume because he is a doctor he has informed his wife or significant other that you are some kind of crazy woman and that its best to not "upset" you. | |
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| Doctor, doctor - give me the news. Got a bad case of loving you. Help?
Posted: 1/5/2007 8:24:47 PM | I'm tempted. Fact is though - I couldn't risk hurting him like that. Even though I know I could not sue him, I would worry that somebody on this forum might not feel the same.
HONEY, something is going on with you. No one is looking at that doctor, they are looking at you.
You stated that you lost weight from that Lyme disease. You look thin. Take care of yourself. | |
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| Doctor, doctor - give me the news. Got a bad case of loving you. Help?
Posted: 1/5/2007 8:42:06 PM |
As someone trained in this field, I am truly concerned for the OP, because she is unable to let go of something that does not exist.
Let me guess who 'trained' you in the field of human emotions here. 'Science'? The 'military'?' - now let me tell you, these are two fields known for their 'love'.
I beleive from what I read in your original posting that he was married or possibly already in a LTR.
The doctor had just started seeing someone 'new' around the time I asked him out - matter of fact, 3 weeks prior - he told me this, too.
HONEY, something is going on with you. No one is looking at that doctor, they are looking at you.
You stated that you lost weight from that Lyme disease. You look thin. Take care of yourself.
Fact is I about died from Lyme - to the effect of 88 lbs and vitamin A and D deficiencies - I'm still not right.
I don't know. A part of me thinks my body listened to my mind here and gave up fighting whatever was going on with me because I was so hurt and confused by all of this. | |
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| Doctor, doctor - give me the news. Got a bad case of loving you. Help?
Posted: 1/5/2007 8:48:20 PM | | Blaze, you sound like you have some mental anguish about this. Have you talked to the doctor you are now seeing for your Lyme disease about getting some help with the your feelings? Do you have friends or relatives who you can talk to and give you support? | |
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| Doctor, doctor - give me the news. Got a bad case of loving you. Help?
Posted: 1/5/2007 9:04:24 PM | I'm not unsympathetic or uninformed. The OP's problem is not Lyme disease or neurological. What are commonly called organic symptoms, meaning things that can be diagnosed and tested with tangible results, from what she posted, she has tangibly diagnosed medical situations. I've known one person who suffered from Lyme disease, and the only reason it caused him problems is that he drove after taking the medication and got arrested for being under the influence. A prescribed medication, for a diagnosed and documented medical condition. Well guess what, he didn't read the warnings on his bottle, and drove anyway. And got arrested, did make the papers and will have a problem getting hired again because of it.
That is different from the topic of this thread. Lyme disease didn't cause a lapse in judgment, not paying attention to the warnings on his medication did.
But it didn't make him obsessed with someone who pays no attention to them.
Sorry, I am not feeling for people who suffer from any medical condition, but this isn't about that at all. | |
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| Doctor, doctor - give me the news. Got a bad case of loving you. Help?
Posted: 1/5/2007 9:07:07 PM | No - can't say I have talked to this doctor (or anyone else for that matter) at any length, recently anyway.
I don't know - I think the only one to clear things up here as to what was and was not felt is the doctor himself, and he remains silent. So I guess it's anybody's guess here. | |
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| Doctor, doctor - give me the news. Got a bad case of loving you. Help?
Posted: 1/5/2007 9:07:38 PM | Blaze, Go back and look at all of your entries on this particular post...there are TONS of them...it is almost crazy!!! You are attempting to make excuse after excuse. You are truly obsessed over this man... seriously. I mean, really look at all of the garbage you have written concerning this matter. I totally think you should go on and find someone else that is more attainable.
I mean, what are you looking for?? Are you just looking for someone to say to you that Yes, by golly... I do believe that this doctor has a crush on you. WOW, you lucky, lucky gal. You know it would never happen because it would jeopardize his license...so why on earth are you still obsessing?
You are a beautiful woman and could have many different men that may find interest in you... but this is ugly behavior. Nothing is going to happen, or he would have made it happen and worked around things to see you...he would have taken that chance already. | |
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| Doctor, doctor - give me the news. Got a bad case of loving you. Help?
Posted: 1/5/2007 9:13:49 PM |
Lyme disease didn't cause a lapse in judgment, not paying attention to the warnings on his medication did.
I think I read that Lyme causes 'social incontinence', which I believe is feasible. So basically, whereas someone without Lyme might be able to keep their feelings to themselves in order to avoid social upheaval, someone with Lyme tends to be an 'on-the-mind on-the-lips' kind of person. | |
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| Doctor, doctor - give me the news. Got a bad case of loving you. Help?
Posted: 1/5/2007 9:21:39 PM |
And two more things... that look of urgency just may have been his concern for your obsessive nature and imagination.
Second thing... why are you no longer his patient???? Honestly.
It was a complete fluke that I even found him on JDate - I wasn't even looking for him. It's not like I saw him there and then joined and clicked on him. I had given up on his ever dating me, but that's when the 'universe' decided to step in. If it were truly his concern for my 'obsessive nature' or my 'imagination', I would think he'd have looked at me like this throughout every appointment, not just my final appointment with him.
I'm no longer his patient simply because I found him on JDate. Plain and simple. I asked him out long before the JDate event. | |
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| Doctor, doctor - give me the news. Got a bad case of loving you. Help?
Posted: 1/5/2007 9:37:40 PM | "I think I read that Lyme causes 'social incontinence', which I believe is feasible." You think you read? AKK...geez, it's a conditon you've said for how many pages you had. If I thought I had something or was diagnosed, I guarantee I'd be much more informed than that. Social inconteninence? I've read a lot of medical websites and journal medical journal articles and I've never seen this. Are you just making up something?
Geez...forget the Doctor, you're apparently getting your thrills off the attention of posting every other post on this thread.
C'mon give it up and get over it. Your medical issues, as conconcted and likely fake as they are, aren't even the issue here. I'm tending to doubt seriously if you do have any of the multiple supposed medical conditions you've spoken of. If you had them, were diagnosed and being treated for them...well your ignorance and obsession isn't what this is about.
Puleeze at your age, thanks for giving the men here one other reason to think females are all nutjobs. Shame you went to a neurologist and not a shrink. You'd have been Baker Acted. | |
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| Doctor, doctor - give me the news. Got a bad case of loving you. Help?
Posted: 1/5/2007 11:08:32 PM | "With a loss of voluntary and subconscious editorial control of emotions and expression in word or behavior, a patient with encephalopathy gives the general impression of being erratic, inappropriate, if not dysfunctional."
http://www.angelfire.com/biz/romarkaraoke/whento.htm
By the way, the author of this article above had Lyme himself - he committed suicide. I'm guessing it's because there are many like you, bucsgirl, who need that scientific 'proof' for someone to somehow be believed.
I think everybody here should read this entire article for his/her own benefit and check out how Lyme presents itself over time, as I honestly believe most of us here have Lyme and/or coinfections that are flying under the radar - 'science' just treats the chemical imbalances and other conditions it causes, neglecting the 'root' problem in the process while the infection literally takes over us.
I think that answers your question too, squirrly, about why I don't have much faith in psychiatry or psychology.
Who on this forum does not have two or more of the 'symptoms' of Lyme? Some people think Lyme was a bioterrorism experiment gone awry. Lyme is much more common that we are told. My new doctor says the state of North Carolina only 'reported' 4 cases of Bartonella (another tickborne disease) last year, yet he'd diagnosed 120 patients just within his own practice alone last year. | |
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| Doctor, doctor - give me the news. Got a bad case of loving you. Help?
Posted: 1/6/2007 7:59:50 AM | BLAZE ... Hey the title to your post is great, but my thoughts are that in your case that old saying "no news is good news" doesn't apply. I don't doubt that your love interest might have been attracted to you at one time but there was never a foundation set by the 2 of you to allow that attraction to grow into love, at least so it seems on his part. I spose only time will tell (2 years?)
I hope that after the 2 year deadline your prince will come for you. However if he doesn't, I hope you will then lay it to rest and allow your heart to heal.
If it is really love that you are feeling you will set him free,
I'm sorry to hear about your illness. I won't even pretend to know how it must have impacted your life now or in the future. However you do sound like a survivor. You seem intelligent, sensitive, articulate and attractive, with a lot of love to give. Love does indeed help us manage and carry on when life gets us down. Not so much by how many love us and how much but more by the love we are able to feel for and give to others.
Unfortunately, it can also blur senses and at times delude our reality. Specially when reality is so subjective anyway. That blur has it's pros as well as cons when it comes to love, yet it is in fact better to have loved and continue to do so.
Love is also a verb it's the actions that substantiate and give evidence of that love, Ideally giving us clarity and a sense of security and peace. Not confusion and anguish though it many times will.
That said I wish you much Love and much Clarity.
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