| Should prostitution be legal?
Posted: 12/31/2006 8:36:16 AM | I lived in Europe for 5 years.
It is a full profession. They make a good living and the variety welcomes all kinds of fetishes, big women, little, short, you name it. The common rule for what they call the wall, in Germany, is that the higher floors of the building the more it costs.
Men drop off their wives to work just like going to the office. They trully understand the difference between sex and love.
They get health screened weekly as a part of their health insurance plan.
They have to have a current health card to work each week.
The bordeaus are run by legitimate owners (usually women) with full security. All the girls have emergency alarms and the security will kick your ass then throw you out and you still pay.
As for the moral issue that up to each person and pointless to argue.
Now to the social aspect:
Guys or gals can get a little before they go out at night.
Ladies it is actually somewhat of an advantage as you won't have guys bothering you all night hoping to get some. If the guy knows he can get laid whenever he wants then he will be approaching you because he actually likes you.
Guys, how much would you spend on drinks to get laid in a nightclub with the chance you are waisting your money. Take the money and get rid of the issue before you go out. Never go out with a loaded gun, your brain don't work right.
As greggie said we are so hung up on it and indoctrinated that the idea of sex is dirty that we have screwed (no pun intended) ourselves out a a true joy in life.
If you are person that does not agree or has some moral issue with it then don't use the service or don't choose it as a profession. Like the TV turn the channel. You have the right to be offened as i have the right to offend and if you look to be offended you will find something to offend you. | |
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| Should prostitution be legal?
Posted: 12/31/2006 8:39:34 AM | | good one greggie your the only one who made any sense...welll mommatrix did but she went on and on and I just couldn't read it all...what were u doing last night mama...hope it was fun. | |
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| Should prostitution be legal?
Posted: 12/31/2006 8:55:05 AM | You've convinced me. Paying for sexual pleasure sounds like a great idea... how much will it cost for you to go f-yourself?
... and if you're offended, just turn the channel. | |
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| Should prostitution be legal?
Posted: 12/31/2006 10:25:56 AM |
As for the moral issue that up to each person and pointless to argue. This is precisely what I meant. There are a lot of things I find immoral that are legal. There are a lot of things I find just fine that some find immoral. If it is a grey area of morality, then you need to look at societal impact. So let's do it realistically.
Prostitution has only been legal in Germany since 2003. In the Netherlands - as in Germany - the law doesn't apply to illegal workers. It is estimated that 6 out of 10 prostitutes are aliens who live and work illegally. So, you would have to find out if your protitute is legal, and I am sure once again men who do not have much money will be subjecting their wives or girlfriends to sexually transmitted diseases.
In point of fact, in May 2005 The Christian Science Monitor reported that Germany was rethinking it's stance on legalized prostitution. The issue came to the fore when a 25-year-old waitress looking for work was told that she faced losing her unemployment benefits because she had turned down a job at a brothel. Is this what we want for the women in this country?
“There is now nothing in the law to stop women from being sent into the sex industry,” said Hamburg lawyer Merchthild Garweg, who deals in such cases. “The new regulations say that working in the sex industry is not immoral anymore, and so jobs cannot be turned down without a risk to benefits.” Do you want your mom, wife, daughter or girlfriend faced with this choice? (http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0511/p15s02-woeu.html)
I wonder... I used to love to cook, then I went to chef school and did it for a living. For a long time, I did not want to cook if I was not getting paid for it. Took a while for me to rediscover how much fun it was and really enjoy it again. When a prostitute comes home from work, I am sure the last thing she wants to do...
we are so hung up on it and indoctrinated that the idea of sex is dirty that we have screwed (no pun intended) ourselves out a a true joy in life. Just because we choose to limit it to one person that we care about, does not mean we think of it as dirty. | |
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| Should prostitution be legal?
Posted: 12/31/2006 11:35:58 AM | SLOWNEASY
-Expanding upon how brothels can exaggerate the temptation; in simple terms I should just allude to the idiom OverSexed.
Take yourself back to the mindset of a very hormonal first 24-plus years of life. Testosterone doesn't create violent or sexual behavior... it exaggerates it. Take a TomCat that sprays piss all over his litter box. The neighbor tells you that TomCats should be neutered and then they won't spray. You neuter your cat (like a lot of pet owners do) but the cat still sprays. That's learned behavior exaggerated by hormones that no longer are a factor in the situation. Do you think a man past the age of 27 would be so wrapped up in sex had he not spent the last 14 years Chasing it to no end? Once your hormones are out of the scene all you have left is learned behavior.
-the connection between date rape and prostitution
There is no connection to be made nor was there one alluded to in my last post. What I was insinuating is that it's completely asinine for any man to proclaim that "The Temptation" is stronger than he. What a cop out.
-The Myth/Legend that cold showers and salt peder (Very) temporarily stifle sexual urges is well complemented by the Notion you seem to have that a prostitute will PERMINANTLY stifle such urges.
What are you, a 13 year old virgin? The back door of a brothel does not send it's patrons wandering like lemmings into the ocean... satisfied, no regrets, fully embracing their watery grave. | |
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| Should prostitution be legal?
Posted: 12/31/2006 1:39:53 PM | All you have to do is look at MOST of the profile pictures (of women exposing themselves) here and see how women use the (man's) sex drive to manipulate. This "manipulation" is used to entice (encourage the little head to control the big head) men to ..... pick them.
Religious dogma is used as a smoke screen to cover for our own basic fundamental needs and try to attach some rules for controlling it.
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| Should prostitution be legal?
Posted: 12/31/2006 4:43:33 PM | | To some people think that prostitution will make for more rapists and serial sex offenders. There is no true correlation between the two.... | |
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| Should prostitution be legal?
Posted: 12/31/2006 5:09:33 PM | | Not at all... I think legalized prostitution will increase the number of whores and whore-mongers. | |
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| Should prostitution be legal?
Posted: 12/31/2006 5:51:23 PM | Mominatrix,
first of all your name says allot, that would make me run as kid, serious control issues there. I have read a number of your posts.
In point of fact, in May 2005 The Christian Science Monitor reported that Germany was rethinking it's stance on legalized prostitution.
There is an unbiased opend minded periodical.
Prostitution has only been legal in Germany since 2003.
There is now nothing in the law to stop women from being sent into the sex industry,” said Hamburg lawyer Merchthild Garweg, who deals in such cases. “The new regulations say that working in the sex industry is not immoral anymore, and so jobs cannot be turned down without a risk to benefits.” Do you want your mom, wife, daughter or girlfriend faced with this choice?
The unemployment system in Germany doesn't even work that way. I lived there from 1990 to 1995, I was engaged to a German woman and she was unemployed and never had to make that choice.
There were legal bordeaus then, your science monitor is wrong.
Just love the way people believe everything they read and talk out their hindend and have no first hand knowledge of the subject.
I sure won't argue the use of tampons with a woman. | |
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| Should prostitution be legal?
Posted: 12/31/2006 6:32:12 PM | Janet,
Am I the man you are referring to as bitter? No, not bitter. If fact, my idea of prostitution is solely intended to herd the men on these types of websites who are only looking to get laid down to the local brothel.. That way, you women on here would know that the remaining guys on these websites are sincerely looking for a LTR.
Dependence is not what you really want to cultivate in a relationship is it? Who wants to feel dependent? Surely not the modern woman. Nor man. I would think you want to cultivate a loving companionship relationship with your spouse. If you have a loving companionship neither partner would be looking for sex or intimacy or anything else from some other person. It keeps both parties honest. Good lord, men know (except for the mentally unbalanced ones) that prostitutes don't love you - you are a customer and acquaintance to them and nothing more.
This question, therefore, is not an attempt to express my anger. Hmmm, I cannot understand how you arrived at that conclusion. Maybe an experience you have had or have witnessed in your lifetime? Maybe you could explain the connection to me?
If a woman chooses to be a prostitute, then so be it. One of the first things we as a society would need to do is to erase the word prostitute from the dictionary as it has negative connotations (even from the Bible) for at least a couple of centuries now in our so-called "Western" culture.
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Posted: 12/31/2006 6:40:07 PM | Janet
Well, well, well. Now I know why you introduced the word anger into this discussion Janet. The anger you are asking me about is your own. When you have the emotion but claim someone else does, this is called "projection."
So the question naturally arises: Did you ol' man frequent the brothel or something? Is that why you are divorced? Is that why you are so angry? After all, as someone just said, it's just a discussion....
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Posted: 12/31/2006 6:44:26 PM | ES138
I must confess, you totally lost me. You are talking above my humble understanding of the English language.
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Posted: 12/31/2006 6:48:44 PM | Janet,
Yes it will increase the whores and whoremongers (snarl terms there) but it will also make sure that the man and woman in a marriage (or whatever type of union) don't take each other for granted.
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| Should prostitution be legal?
Posted: 12/31/2006 7:14:07 PM | Hi dark desire,
I agree with you that prostitution does not make for more rapists and serial sex offenders and the like. In fact, it is the very act of suppression, for some suceptible people, that causes sexual repression. And in an even fewer percentage of those sexually repressed people who lack self control and a conscience will commit sexually related crimes.
To the contrary, if there is a correlation between the two at all, it is that prostitution would decrease the sexually/criminally inclined: rapists and serial sex offenders and others.
I can't sit here and claim to know the mind of a rapist. On recent media, we all hear that rapes are a crime of violence and the need for control. If those are the sole reasons for rapists' behavior, prostitution would not solve the rapist problem. Taking them out back and putting a bullet through the head would though.
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| Should prostitution be legal?
Posted: 12/31/2006 7:35:05 PM | | Hey guys and girls...who cares. who the *&%*$# cares..."why can't you all just get along" quit jer ****en...no wonder your all single...if you cant say something nice keep your effing mouth shut...thats the way my mom put it... | |
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Posted: 1/1/2007 3:00:59 PM | I think a post about 10 of em back,from this one by kcoffeecan,,was exactly right on the money,an worded perfectly to the point,nice post coffee,,,,,,,,,O an Rutting Beast,,oooooo yeah,mama,,,,what a turn on,,i love that one,,,,ha,,,me a rutting beast,,haa,,love it.  | |
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| Should prostitution be legal?
Posted: 1/1/2007 6:03:09 PM | SLOWNEASY
I just think that the examples you use to justify prostitution have better solutions than legalized prostitution. So if it's the examples you're concerned about, you must agree that a cold shower campaign is much more attainable and sensible than prostitution (and let me readress that the temporary results are just as temporary as a trick from a prostitute.)
If you merely just want to legalize prostitution, find some better reasons to do it. | |
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Posted: 1/5/2007 3:20:39 AM | Personally, I think that paying for sex is generally a bad choice. However, I can't just go around limiting the freedoms of others based on my own personal preferences.
Laws are about _protecting_the_freedom_ of every individual. So, while I might disapprove of someone's choice to seek entertainment through sexual stimulation, I have _no_right_to stop them unless I can show how their behavior harms me or unduly restricts my own freedom.
Back in the days before condoms and antibiotics, the only way to control STDs was to limit sexual contacts. Some STDs were and are really horrible. That's why "whores" were considered "dirty and dangerous," in the same way that we consider other disease vectors like rats and flies and unwashed hands to be "dirty and dangerous." Laws against prostitution were once justified because unprotected sex with multiple partners poses a significant public-health risk. The stigma against "whores" also served as a public-health warning.
Fast forward to the present. If people are hygienic about it, there's no longer any significant public-health threat to sexual entertainment. If people aren't hygienic about it, they're "dirty and dangerous" whether they're "prostitutes," "clients," or FBs.
So, what's the best way to ensure that people are hygienic about their sexual entertainment? Especially when I have no right to stop so long as they take the proper precautions to prevent the spread of disease?
Janet? What do you say?
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| Should prostitution be legal?
Posted: 1/5/2007 8:04:32 AM |
So, what's the best way to ensure that people are hygienic about their sexual entertainment?
Boil their privates?
Hey... as long as it doesn't hurt me (this is YOUR premise) what's the harm? | |
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