| Women on POF have standards way too high
Posted: 1/2/2007 8:17:43 PM | Hey Robert, you said in your profile that you're an "easy going" guy with a "good sense of humor"! But your post is anything but! You say you're "incensed, complaining"!
This struck me the most in your post: "Most above average looking women will not give the time of day to a guy who isn't a total hunk or a superstud."
So are you complaining about your results with the "above average looking women" here? Is that what this is about?
Then the fact of the matter is that it's really about your lack of understanding in how to deal with this. | |
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Keljo
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Joined: 12/28/2005
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| Women on POF have standards way too high
Posted: 1/2/2007 8:18:25 PM |
Guys arent that damn picky.
You're kidding, right?
Sure guys can be superficial and picky too, but nowhere near the extent that women are. Not by a longshot.
Have you been reading they guys' profiles? Some have a laundry list that leaves my head spinning...must be thin, petite, long hair, high sex drive, no kids, blah blah blah....
You are going to get nothing but the arguement of - "I can't help what I am attracted to!! There HAS to be attraction physically before you can think of getting to know someone!"
Thats the only argument you get, yet if some people were too get rejected for being too short or too tall, they'd be the first to cry foul. | |
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| Women on POF have standards way too high
Posted: 1/2/2007 8:18:52 PM | | Oh no, dont give that "men are just as picky" line again. That's the standard reply I get everytime from women and its utter bull sh it. I look at both women's and men's profiles and I've yet to see a single men's profile that has a shopping list of dating requirements or who sounds as remotely arrogant as many of the women here (Vancouver). The attitudes of some of these women are so disgusting and abhorrent its enough to make me want to give up women entirely. "I expect this and I expect that, I want this and I want that. Rude, stuck-up, hostile, demanding, snobbish, jaded, and they think they are the world because they have looks and this entitles to whatever they want. They have it so easy, they just sit back and wait for the mail to pile in and then they read and delete at their leisure, weeding out all the unworthy undesirables and selecting the cream of the crop. Makes me sick. If you arent enough of a hunk you just get read and no reply or read deleted. They exploit their advantaged position to the maximum and they have no compunction how rude they come across or how many nice decent guys they turn down flatly just because he doesnt totally wow them with his looks. They think of it as their divine right, and they have no concept of morality or basic human decency. They are selfish and only think of satisfying themselves. | |
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| Women on POF have standards way too high
Posted: 1/2/2007 8:19:12 PM | Op, what you seem to be saying is that women should lower their standards enough so that they would date you. Damn. Wow, and I thought I had no self esteem... | |
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| Women on POF have standards way too high
Posted: 1/2/2007 8:23:24 PM | Ok, how do people initiate anything with girls or guys on this site? They see our pictures, and decide to message. Some might read our profiles first, and say something intelligent to catch our attention in that first contact. Realistically, in the few months I have been on here, I know I haven't been messaged because of my standards or my personality. It's based on a picture. I didn't even have a proper profile up until last week, and the majority of the IM's and emails I recieve are STILL a one-liner about how I look or if i'm up for some quick "fun".
So what does that tell you? We all know what it's like on here. It's a choice to stay on and keep hoping something new will come up and you'll meet great people, or to zone in on the negatives about a site like this and throw it back like it's the fault of an entire gender. Get real..whining about it won't solve it. | |
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| Women on POF have standards way too high
Posted: 1/2/2007 8:25:10 PM | fiestyangel said it best. She really did. A man, complaining about women being too picky... wow. I am STILL laughing.
I always joke around and say that a lot of men on here are looking for a Paris Hilton to call their own. I half wish the OP would look around at what some of the men on this site are expecting to find.
Too funny. Thanks for this, Mr. OP. I really needed a chuckle. Sorry you're so jaded and all, but the fact is... there are all kinds of picky people on this site, and it's not limited to any one gender. Come on already... enough with the gender-based cop-outs. You claim you aren't bitter or resentful, but clearly.... you ARE. You need to realize that rejection is part of life. Especially in the dating world. You need to realize one very, important thing: Bitching and being hateful only makes people want to be with you even less. Do you think someone would actually want someone all bent out of shape the way you are? Trust me when I say this.... NO, they don't. | |
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| Women on POF have standards way too high
Posted: 1/2/2007 8:27:40 PM |
I have very high standards. I knew exactly what I was looking for and wouldn't accept anything less. And guess what- I found who I was looking for and couldn't be happier!!
Exactly. The OP can aim low if he wants, but I doubt that will ever make him happy.
Has anyone suggested that the OP put more than five minutes into his profile? And possibly some pics? I mean I guess it's an outside chance that his suck-ass profile has something to do with his lack of e-mails? | |
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Keljo
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Joined: 12/28/2005
Msg: 34 | |
| Women on POF have standards way too high
Posted: 1/2/2007 8:28:41 PM |
The attitudes of some of these women are so disgusting and abhorrent its enough to make me want to give up women entirely. "I expect this and I expect that, I want this and I want that. Rude, stuck-up, hostile, demanding, snobbish, jaded, and they think they are the world because they have looks and this entitles to whatever they want. They have it so easy, they just sit back and wait for the mail to pile in and then they read and delete at their leisure, weeding out all the unworthy undesirables and selecting the cream of the crop. Makes me sick. If you arent enough of a hunk you just get read and no reply or read deleted. They exploit their advantaged position to the maximum and they have no compunction how rude they come across or how many nice decent guys they turn down flatly just because he doesnt totally wow them with his looks. They think of it as their divine right, and they have no concept of morality or basic human decency. They are selfish and only think of satisfying themselves.
The why would you want to message these women? Are you too good for an 'average' woman?? How about trying Barbie's friend instead of looking for Barbie all the damn time.
I don't live in Vancouver, but men and women are basically the same wherever you are. | |
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| Women on POF have standards way too high
Posted: 1/2/2007 8:30:15 PM | Props to you my man, nice goin'!!! I know the truth will hurt 'em. And the men that trying
to be nice and stick up for them are just trying to get on their good side so they can maybe get a email in there somewhere and get a response....LOVE THE POST!!! Keep up the good work! | |
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| Women on POF have standards way too high
Posted: 1/2/2007 8:36:14 PM | Can someone throw this guy a life jacket? I think he's drowning! .....in his own crap.
OP why don't you just message women with NO PIC? That way you will have something in common with them.
Paint the picture how you like, but you are putting the little fishies down cause your down on your luck. If a woman doesn't have YOUR wants and desires, move onto the next. Simple.  | |
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| Women on POF have standards way too high
Posted: 1/2/2007 8:39:13 PM | "fiestyangel said it best. She really did. A man, complaining about women being too picky... wow. I am STILL laughing.
I always joke around and say that a lot of men on here are looking for a Paris Hilton to call their own. I half wish the OP would look around at what some of the men on this site are expecting to find."
Didn't read the OP post, but as a guy looking for non paris hilton types i find alot of women who (not that it would be an excuse if they did) don't have the looks to justify the personality and looks that they want. ESPECIALLY for not even meeting or dating someone. I think the biggest problem with men and women here is that they are not willing to risk spending a day with someone that could end up going nowhere. As if there is a way of guaranteeing going anywhere. Stop looking for right away, broaden your horizens and meet new people. If they were just as pointless as you expected so what? OMG you wasted however long it took you to determine this plus the trip to the location and back. | |
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| Women on POF have standards way too high
Posted: 1/2/2007 8:40:15 PM | I think noselfesteem summed it up brilliantly;
...you seem to be saying is that women should lower their standards enough so that they would date you.
You ain't gonna land a Marlin using a tied-fly lure.
You can either change your bait, or fish for something more appropriate to what you're offering.
Mind you, your bitter whiney posts here will probably cause the fish to shun you anyway. | |
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Keljo
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Joined: 12/28/2005
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| Women on POF have standards way too high
Posted: 1/2/2007 8:50:02 PM | One thing that I'm sure every guy who has used POF will agree with is that the women on here have unrealistically high standards when it comes to selecting men. Yes yes, they get lots of mail and have to be specific blah blah. But does that really give the right to demand a huge list of dating criteria? Honestly, its ridiculous how much women here expect from guys. Most above average looking women will not give the time of day to a guy who isnt a total hunk or a superstud. Guys arent that damn picky.
Women on dating sites are extremely superficial and want way way too much. They want a guy who's tall, ruggedly handsome and masculine looking, with no trace of boyish features, athletic and muscular, intelligent, witty, financially secure etc etc...I'm not just complaining because I'm bitter and rejected, it just incenses me how women have such overblown senses of self-entitlement and overinflated egos that they would blow off any guy who isnt a total stud. Even above average looking guys get treated like garbage. The only way you get any substantial attention is if you are model quality. Sure guys can be superficial and picky too, but nowhere near the extent that women are. Not by a longshot.
Thats precisely why a lot of these women end up on dating sites !!!! Even Brad Pitt nibbles at Different bait these days !!!
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| Women on POF have standards way too high
Posted: 1/2/2007 8:53:28 PM | Ugh! Guy, get a life. Negativity,negativity,negativity. I'm on this site, and I do not think I am any of the things you describe women here as being. I'm just looking for someone to have a meaningful relationship with.
My standards aren't high-however, they are appropriate for someone with an average ego and a non overblown sense of entitlement. But, the person I'm looking for certainly should have some brains- would you want to hang out with a ditz? I think not. Would you want to spend time with someone you did not find appealing? Again, I think not. And ,guy, you can not believe how picky guys are! Regardless of this pickiness, I keep trying, hoping the right person for me is on this site. Many guys are looking for the feminine version of who you described. Sigh, if we were all perfect, would we be here? Let's just accept this site for what it is and the people that are on it for who they are. The world is as good a place as you make it.
I believe you need to reexamine your attitude towards women in general. Perhaps this site is not currently an appropriate place for you to be seeking a companion? Maybe take some time to think things through and come back at a later date when you have a more positive outlook. | |
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| Women on POF have standards way too high
Posted: 1/2/2007 9:11:58 PM | "Women on dating sites are extremely superficial and want way way too much. They want a guy who's tall, ruggedly handsome and masculine looking, with no trace of boyish features, athletic and muscular, intelligent, witty, financially secure etc etc..."
The part I love most about this is rant, is that this guy described a man who I personally don't go hunting for.
Tall? I'm short, and I think short guys are great!!
Ruggedly handsome?? Mmm... I'm not into Paul Bunyan, or Grizzly Adams.
Masculine looking... well, I mean, isn't that kind of a given? Shouldn't men look... masculine? If they don't, doesn't that make them a transvestite, a drag queen, a cross dresser, a transgender, or... a woman for that matter?
Boyish features are a huge turn on for me... and to be honest, the whole muscular thing as far as being 'fit' goes, is nice, but, give me a man who I can really wrap my arms around, and I am all kinds of happy.
Intelligent... oh come on ... you mean to tell me YOU don't want someone intelligent? Does anyone on this site actually WANT someone stupid??
Financially secure ... hey, look, when people say that, most the time they mean "has a JOB and WORKS" ... and that's the truth.
Now that I broke that all down, where do I sign up for a short, cute and boyish guy? Hmm? I keep looking, but I'm not seeing any!!! :)
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| Women on POF have standards way too high
Posted: 1/2/2007 9:13:03 PM |
Completely acceptable and understandable when the ratio of men to women on this site is 10 to 1.
I will agree, though, that some "are farting higher than from the hole" That is a French translation here.
I did a 50 mile search for age range of 30 to 40 on Woodstock Ontario and there 538 women and 766 mrn ...
That does not sound like 10 men per women but about 1.4 men per women...
I have found it the ratio varying depending on region but it ranges from 1 to about 4 men per women. | |
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| Women on POF have standards way too high
Posted: 1/2/2007 9:15:46 PM | I don't get a ton of e-mails! I want my money back... err... Oh, this site is free isn't it?
But heck, I don't get a ton of mail! Oh wait... He is talking about the above average babes that won't respond his tons of mail... not me. | |
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| Women on POF have standards way too high
Posted: 1/2/2007 9:16:24 PM |
they have no compunction how rude they come across or how many nice decent guys they turn down
Having a boring and forgettable profile does not equal "nice decent guy". Let's get that straight, first.
Every guy who comes on the forums and complains about not getting dates labels himself a "nice" guy. Kinda weird, huh? Yet, these "nice" guys often start threads catergorizing all women as shallow, heartless, ice queens, who are only interested in bronze-skinned Italian male models.
Seriously, tho, if you want help actually getting responses from women, go to the "profile review" forum and ask for it. | |
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| Women on POF have standards way too high
Posted: 1/2/2007 9:21:10 PM | Nobody should settle, as others have said.
Not every woman emails me back (much to my shock and to their loss!) but does that mean their standards are too high?
Yes.
I mean no.
I would implore the OP to stop whining, but (a) it's useless, and (b) if we stopped the whining, these forums would dry up and blow away... | |
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| Women on POF have standards way too high
Posted: 1/2/2007 9:23:21 PM |
The why would you want to message these women? Are you too good for an 'average' woman?? How about trying Barbie's friend instead of looking for Barbie all the damn time.
I don't live in Vancouver, but men and women are basically the same wherever you are.
Vancouver is a large city of over 1 million people just north of the USA and Canadian border.
In the smalll town i live ... people say hi to strangers on the steet .... but in large city .. do you see people do that ... or are they just in a rush .... | |
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