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| Women on POF have standards way too high
Posted: 1/2/2007 9:23:28 PM | Most men are guilty of the same thing. I am not saying that I am...because I assure you that I am not looking for some muscular hunk. What I am looking for is someone that I am attracted to (does not have to be gorgeous), and someone that I can picture having some chemistry with, along with personality, and some intelligence.
But read my profile...and see how many men will contact me... you guys are guilty of being superficial as well as some women are.
Now go to you room. ((LOL)) just kidding. | |
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| Women on POF have standards way too high
Posted: 1/2/2007 9:26:43 PM | oh it's true men are not picky...they will f u c k anything that will f u c k them back....
and basically that's what the majority of men on this site seem to be looking for...and for the few men who aren't....the others are screwing it up for you....
First statement. FALSE! I am very selective about where I and when I have had sex. As a matter of fact, there are two women who were very mad at me when I was in a long distant relationship and being faithful to a woman I had never met in person. And there are a lot more men like me. Like my best friend who is getting married and would turn down women like they were the plague. So, again I first statement FALSE!
Second statement. FALSE! The only way what someone else did to you affect how you view and treat others not like them is you. It would be too easy for me to blame women for my fear of getting into a relationship. I could say that each girlfriend is the reason why a lot of good women that I could of had got away. But, the truth of the matter is this...They are the pass and this is a completely different individual. Unless everyone of you who have been hurt are a mind and soul reader...How do you know what that other person will or will not do?
I ask this question a lot but, you know what, no one ever answers this.
So, yeah, OP before you start stating that women have standards way too high, check yourself first. Are you willing to date someone 5, 10, 15, 20 years your senior? Are you willing to message that woman who may have a few extra pounds or bbw? Are you willing to talk to a woman from another country (or even on the opposite side of the States) than you? How about smokers, drinkers, and drug users? Are you willing to accept a woman who only wants a non-sexual relationship because she is waiting until she is married?
Before you start talking about other people standards check your own and then re-ask the question. | |
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| Women on POF have standards way too high
Posted: 1/2/2007 9:30:01 PM | "Before you start talking about other people standards check your own and then re-ask the question."
Once again, Dark-n-Romantic hits a thread head on, and leaves behind mature, rational, well thought about words of wisdom. You are always a sight for sore eyes on these forums, Dark.
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| Women on POF have standards way too high
Posted: 1/2/2007 9:36:58 PM | Tons of emails??  from who.. well...I at least have a pic or 2 on my profile and My standards arent too high.. what i want is just what and who is described in My profile.. and for your info not that it matters.. honesty, hard working and i dont go for tall since i am 5 ft.. and i am not a quitter but beleive me in the 7 years i have been divorced i have learned alot .. i love my self and who i am.. and what i have accomplished.. and the right fella will claim me one day and love me for me.. and i will love him back.. you need to change your attitude and stop smokin the bitter weed or whatever u are smoking.. just my opinion Sweet N Louisiana  | |
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| Women on POF have standards way too high
Posted: 1/2/2007 9:46:56 PM | Our standards are too high?? Does that mean that since we are resorting to an online dating site we now become so desperate that we should just take whatever maladjusted, misinformed, rejects that we wouldn't have dated BEFORE pof?Come on, why shouldn't we have standards? I am not so DESPERATE for a man that I will lower my expectations just to get one.
I just want one that matches me, looks aren't totally important but attitude is, but they have to appeal to ME. | |
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| Women on POF have standards way too high
Posted: 1/2/2007 10:07:45 PM | | I think that's the key. If someone knows what they like in another person, why wouldn't they put that in their profile? If I was only into black women, should I leave that out of my profile, and make up excuses to the white women who e-mail me just so I don't hurt their soft fragile egos? Hell no. | |
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| Women on POF have standards way too high
Posted: 1/2/2007 10:18:13 PM |
Most above average looking women will not give the time of day to a guy who isnt a total hunk or a superstud. Guys arent that damn picky.
What a crock! Yes SOME men are able to see past physical beauty, but as a rule, unless u are 5'9", 110 lbs, and blonde, u go virtually unnoticed.
But to make this remark, u are WAY off the mark!
Sure guys can be superficial and picky too, but nowhere near the extent that women are. Not by a longshot.
by the way, most of the info listed on these profiles are PREFERENCES.
Main Entry: pref·er·ence
Pronunciation: 'pre-f&rn(t)s, 'pre-f(&-)r&n(t)s
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English preferraunce, from Middle French preferance, from Medieval Latin praeferentia, from Latin praeferent-, praeferens, present participle of praeferre
1 a : the act of preferring : the state of being preferred b : the power or opportunity of choosing
2 : one that is preferred
No where on MOST of the profiles here, (men or women for that matter)list that u MUST fall under this critera.
I am sorry that u feel as tho u don't measure up in some way, so u need to paint all profiles and women with the same brush. Keep looking, and remember, they are preferences. If u are 5'9" tall and it says 5'10", e mail her and call this to her attention, maybe she is like me, and will consider that fine. If it says no older than 48 and u are 49 or even 50, send the email, but again, call it to her attention and ask her to llok at your profile and get back to you.
My preferences are there, because I getmail from men that are MUCH older than I. There is a difference between 2 or 3 years and 20. There is a differnence between 5'10 and 5'3"..
MY point is, when in doubt, ask. | |
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| Women on POF have standards way too high
Posted: 1/2/2007 10:49:37 PM | I shouldnt have said "above average looking women" only when I was talking about the high standards I mentioned. It was a wrong choice of words. What I really meant was even average or moderately attractive looking women (most of them) wont give the time of day to someone who isnt a total heart throbbing stud. And I do not only go for the above average ones myself. I message all kinds politely, with a profile with a good photo, but I still get treated like a nobody.
OK so now that that's hopefully clear, I want to say that its the attitudes of these women I'm refering to that really pisses me off. It reminds me of the philosophic theory called ethical egoism, which states that every person should pursue his/her self-interests exclusively. The impression I get from these women's profiles is that they are totally narcissistic, individualistic, opportunistic, arrogant, pompous, boastful, self-centered, rude, demanding, superficial snobs. They are 10 times more demanding than any man's profile I've ever seen, (I've seen just as many men's just to compare so dont give me bull that men are just as bad) and the way they words their profiles sounds so g-dam rude and arrogant.
They praise themselves excessively and they just go on and on about what they expect from a man and how many criteria he must fulfill before contacting her. Its that "I'm special and I'm worth it" attitude that really pisses me off. Its bad enough they demand a plethora of dating criteria but then then they are extremely rude, patronizing and arrogant to top it off. You could compare their way of online dating to a capitalistic enterprise. Its profit oriented and cares little or nothing for its employees and seeks only to maximize profit and individual gain. That's what these women are like, its just me me me. I'm great and I deserve the only the very best. Does no one see a problem with that kind of attitude or agree that that is a negative character trait? Christ you people are a difficult lot to talk sense into. I'm not saying all women like this but in Vancouver the majority of them fall into this category. That is the prevalent mindset here. | |
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| Women on POF have standards way too high
Posted: 1/2/2007 11:08:03 PM | | I still don't get it...you still say the majority of women are like this. I seriously think you're looking in all the wrong places, clicking on profiles and messaging for all the wrong reasons. Surely you must have standards none of us seem to be able to understand if the same type of women make up the "majority" of your ventures here. Maybe try something a little less complicated..mail-order bride? | |
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Rhett1
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Joined: 10/16/2005
Msg: 66 | |
| Women on POF have standards way too high
Posted: 1/2/2007 11:17:45 PM |
One thing that I'm sure every guy who has used POF will agree with is that the women on here have unrealistically high standards when it comes to selecting men You've only been on here two weeks and you've talked to or viewed EVERY female's profile on here? Not only that, but in two weeks you've polled EVERY man on here? Wow! You've been busy. Do you have a job?
But does that really give the right to demand a huge list of dating criteria? We all have the right to have a list of criteria, that doesn't mean we're ever going to find "Mr/Miss Perfect".
Honestly, its ridiculous how much women here expect from guys Bitter much?
Most above average looking women will not give the time of day to a guy who isnt a total hunk or a superstud It's 11:08. Translation: "I'm not a hunk or superstud". No one wants to date a guy in a cape, anyway.
Guys arent that damn picky. I'm going to bring up one of the weight threads where you get a number of guys talking about how they wouldn't be caught dead with a woman who has even 5 extra pounds on her, or calling any woman who has extra weight a "land whale" (kiss my blowhole!). Honey, we're ALL picky to some extent. If we are on here to find a relationship which has the possibility of being long-term, why the hell would you just take any old Tom,****or Harry? (My apologies to any men named Tom,****or Harry!) I'm thinking that your problem is that no woman (in your vast two weeks on here) is willing to settle for YOU.
Women on dating sites are extremely superficial and want way way too much. They want a guy who's tall, ruggedly handsome and masculine looking, with no trace of boyish features Hey! I want a guy with boobs! Masculine looking when you're a man is usually considered a good thing. If you have "boyish" features, then I might be looking at a statutory rape charge.
athletic and muscular, intelligent, witty, financially secure Who's going to put "Couch-bound, flabby, dumb, humorless, poor men need only apply"?
I'm not just complaining because I'm bitter and rejected I'm gonna take a stab in the dark here and guess that your pants are on fire.
it just incenses me how women have such overblown senses of self-entitlement and overinflated egos that they would blow off any guy who isnt a total stud Tranlation: "A.K.A. Not me". Just how many "total studs" do you think there are out there, anyway?
Even above average looking guys get treated like garbage Man, you have met a LOT of women on here in two weeks. And you've delved fairly far into the female psyche.
The only way you get any substantial attention is if you are model quality Again, I assume this isn't you.
Sure guys can be superficial and picky too, but nowhere near the extent that women are. Not by a longshot. HEY!!! This is a woman-bashing thread...you just bashed the men too. Stick to the task at hand.
I went through an entire box of Kleenex with this post. I am so sad for you. It must be hard to be offering such a perfect example of manliness and just not be getting any bites from all the women on here who just won't have you.
Do you have a dictionary handy? Look up the word "generalization". You painted every single woman on here with a very broad stroke. Yeah, there ARE women like you describe. BUT...I'm willing to bet that the majority of women on here are good people who simply want to be happy with a MAN...which I don't really think you are.
Edit:
Christ you people are a difficult lot to talk sense into. OOOOOOHHHHHH, we were supposed to agree with you...sorry. Yep, you're right.
If the attitude you give on here is anything like the real you or the person that writes to these horrible women, maybe that's your problem. | |
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| Women on POF have standards way too high
Posted: 1/2/2007 11:24:21 PM | Robert - Im not sure how you have hit upon so many profiles where you find the attitude you are complaining about, but there are so many more profiles that are NOT like that. I am an average looking woman with an average life. Maybe the pond you are fishing in is just too shallow. Maybe you should widen your search....
I went and read your profile and you seem like a nice guy from what is there. You dont have a picture of you, neither do I, but I do have a picture. My profile clearly states that I am happy to email my pic, and I dont send out a message without attaching one. Without a picture, I would advise you to put more than a few minutes into your profile. If you dont catch their eye, you should catch their interest.
Its not all about being a super stud - my ex was nowhere near that. I didnt really give him much notice at first. Then we were introduced and I started talking to him. The more I connected with him, the more attractive he became. To be honest, when I see the super stud pictures on the profiles, I dont bother, dont want a guy prettier than me! lol
There are plenty of attractive, regular, non-snobby women out there, I hope you find us - we are EVERYWHERE!!
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| Women on POF have standards way too high
Posted: 1/2/2007 11:26:47 PM | I message all kinds politely, with a profile with a good photo, but I still get treated like a nobody... The impression I get from these women's profiles is that they are totally narcissistic, individualistic, opportunistic, arrogant, pompous, boastful, self-centered, rude, demanding, superficial snobs. They are 10 times more demanding than any man's profile I've ever seen, (I've seen just as many men's just to compare so don't give me bull that men are just as bad) and the way they words their profiles sounds so g-dam rude and arrogant.
Is that your critique of the profiles you message? If it is, then why do you message them? If it isn't, then why should it bother you?
They praise themselves excessively and they just go on and on about what they expect from a man and how many criteria he must fulfill before contacting her.
I've seen *some* profiles like that. My reaction is to laugh at them. They go on and on listing dozens of their criteria of what they're looking for in a guy - and - what that man will do for them. And do and do. And they barely list anything about what they'll bring to the table except for some of their annoying habits that they expect the guy to put up with. It's hysterical. These people, I think, believe that their happiness will come in the form of their fantasy guy.
Does no one see a problem with that kind of attitude or agree that that is a negative character trait?
While your description is theatrically over the top, in essence, yeah, those aren't great profiles. You do know that it takes all types to make the world go round, right? So the question really is, why do you manifest so much anger about this? Why are you letting it get to you? Are you going to go through life fuming about every person you encounter who's not on the same page as you? Well then, you're going to be fuming a lot.
Christ you people are a difficult lot to talk sense into.
'Scuse me, bud, but it's not your job to talk sense into any one, OK? You'd be better served learning how to get along with people. For a self-described "easy going" guy, you're really showing you're anything but.
Take a cue from me. Laugh about those profiles, and move on. You'll feel better. Keep in mind that for all the attributes you're ascribing to those women you detest, such as how demanding they are, and how only the most magnificent studs will be acceptable to them, that they're all alone and looking on an online dating site because no one wants them right now anyway. So who the hell are they that you should let them get under your skin? | |
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| Women on POF have standards way too high
Posted: 1/2/2007 11:31:47 PM | | Eldubu- what is all this nonsense? Is that you're idea of a counterargument? Try again and make a valid point this time because you havent made yet. It sounds like you are justifying these superficial attitudes and defending them. What a stupid and feeble attempt at rebuttal. And dont assume that I've been here only two weeks because my profile says so, I've had other profiles before and I've been here much longer. Also I didnt generalize, I said that many are not all, at least from what I've seen. | |
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Rhett1
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Joined: 10/16/2005
Msg: 70 | |
| Women on POF have standards way too high
Posted: 1/2/2007 11:33:37 PM | Okay, you're a loser...it's called humor. Your profile says you have a sense of humor...is it out on loan right now?
Why would I try and argue your "points"? They're ridiculous, generalizing bullshit.
Also I didnt generalize, I said that many are not all, at least from what I've seen.
Your EXACT words:
the women on here So, yes, you DID generalize. Now you're backpedalling. | |
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| Women on POF have standards way too high
Posted: 1/2/2007 11:37:06 PM | It seems to me that most folks participating in this thread... need to put up a "REWARD: Sense of Humor, MISSING" sign. Myself included.
This thread makes me really kind twitchy. This whole man bash/woman bash thing just never seems to end... it's like****oaches... if there's a nuclear war, and everything on the face of the planet is wiped out, the following will still survive:
1) roaches
2) keith richards
3) man/woman bashing/bitterness
Oye. | |
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| Women on POF have standards way too high
Posted: 1/2/2007 11:39:47 PM | OP.......
I'm thinking broccoli, whole grains, LARGE green salads.......
A great way to get more fiber in your diet....
You really are full of it.... | |
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Rhett1
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Joined: 10/16/2005
Msg: 73 | |
| Women on POF have standards way too high
Posted: 1/2/2007 11:40:42 PM | | Crystalline: I agree. If the OP had said something like "why do a number of people seem to be so picky?" it wouldn't have been as offensive to one gender and it would have been less inflammatory. Both men and women have the ability to be all of the things the OP is saying, but I dont' believe for one second that every man or every woman on here has one certain trait in common. | |
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| Women on POF have standards way too high
Posted: 1/2/2007 11:44:02 PM | | eldubu- that's what you call humour?? I'm not here to make silly jokes I'm here to have a serious logical discussion, if that's beyond your ability then kindly shut up. I'm not interested in your so called "humour". And if that's all just humour then you just admitted yourself that you havent made a valid point. Next. | |
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| Women on POF have standards way too high
Posted: 1/2/2007 11:44:50 PM | "but I dont' believe for one second that every man or every woman on here has one certain trait in common."
They don't.
And though I often say "But what do I know, I'm not an expert..." ... the truth is, I'm a crisis and intervention therapist who spent 10 years a couples counselor. So, I do kinda know a little sumpin-sumpin from time to time :) | |
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