| Women on POF have standards way too high Posted: 1/3/2007 9:20:40 AM | | Dating services all tend to follow this pattern. I don't think women go out of their way to be fussy. But the odds are in their favor. Just about every site or newspaper ad I have seen runs about 3 to 1 men. POF is at least better since A: it's free and B: you can discuss stuff in the forums. | |
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| Women on POF have standards way too high Posted: 1/3/2007 9:22:09 AM |
When a guy starts a thread like this and women get offended, it's because the shoe fits these women all too well.
It didn't sound like the women on this thread were offended. More amused and pitying the OP than anything else, but that's just my opinion.
They notice that it don't matter what they do and what they offer, the women are not satisfied.
I think that says more about certain men than the women. | |
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| Women on POF have standards way too high Posted: 1/3/2007 9:22:16 AM |
Youre a complete retard Eldubu and you dont make any sense whatsoever. If you were bright enough to make a single intelligent post (which you obviously arent) then I might take you seriously, until then clam it because you're a waste of space.
Yes, the words of a man that wants women to like him.
Robert, no matter how much you dig, you'll never reach China. Start climbing out of the hole you've put yourself in. Many people have held up mirrors in different ways to your posts, including Eldubu. Think about what they are saying. You might learn something and actually have some success.
Cheers, Mike (but if you hit gold, let me know) | |
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| Women on POF have standards way too high Posted: 1/3/2007 9:28:09 AM |
Guys start threads like this because they notice the same thing happening over and over and notice the facts. They notice that it don't matter what they do and what they offer, the women are not satisfied.
Happening over and over, eh? Maybe these guys are picking the wrong women then. If that's the case, how is that anyone else's fault?
"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results." (Benjamin Franklin)
"Sour grapes make the best whine." (~keltic~) | |
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| Women on POF have standards way too high Posted: 1/3/2007 9:37:12 AM | | Robert: Men also have a high standard that they set for women. I had a guy hit me up. He was into the whole ball of wax of working out. That pretty much summed up what he did in his spare time. I replied back about things I enjoyed doing, but told him that due to a neck injury I couldn't really work out, but I do walk. Guess what? Never heard from him again. Wonder if he makes love on a weight bench or work out machine. Or maybe that's how he gets off. So it's not just women who set standards. | |
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| Women on POF have standards way too high Posted: 1/3/2007 9:41:06 AM | It's not just the women my friend, I have read many male profiles that also seek perfection so it does go both ways. I've got news for you, there is no perfect, C'est le Vie, que sera sera, that's life. They say that water seeks it's own level and the problem with that is everyone believes their water is at the highest level. I just try to look for reality.
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| Women on POF have standards way too high Posted: 1/3/2007 10:25:45 AM | OP Sweetie, take some advice...THAT'S A.D.V.I.C.E, not insults, from a fat ugly woman who is almost old enoughto be your Mom;
There's really not a whole lot wrong with your looks, but your profile is majorly BORING! You have nothing to distinguish you from a bazillion other mid30s guys... And, IN MY OPINION, that blank spot by "profession" is a caution flag. And it has nothing to do with income or "status", a blank spot by Profession( I think OCCUPATION would be a better word) says to a lot of women that you do not have a J.O.B,which conjures up all sorts of (probably unjustified) assumptions of unemployment, poor work ethic, a guy looking for a sugar mama...
So dude, do a better profile, and don't leave out an important fact, like whether or not you are able to at least support YOURSELF,are building a business,or are training/studying so that you will be able to soon!
Just my $0.02 worth Cindy O | |
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| Women on POF have standards way too high Posted: 1/3/2007 10:35:03 AM | I have a question:
Has any POF women actually went out to see what men were posting on this website and made the first initial contact? Or do you just wait until POF men come and email you?
Just curious. | |
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| Women on POF have standards way too high Posted: 1/3/2007 10:48:07 AM | Sammylg, I will on occasion email a guy,but a good part of the time I'm looking for further illumination of something said in a profile, to remark on a common interest, or to compliment a well turned phrase or interesting picture, or ask a question about a picture. Generally those emails will be sent to a guy in my age range and geographic area( but not always), I almost NEVER email simply because a guy looked "hot", or because I thought he was rich LOL! In fact, now that I think back about it, I have some wonderful "real life" friendships and treasured longterm penpals that originated with an email I sent within a dating website... Cindy O | |
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| Women on POF have standards way too high Posted: 1/3/2007 11:13:13 AM | first of all, dude you'll catch more flies with sugar than you will with vinegar.
second, hunk guy's profiles look very much like the hot chick profiles regarding superficiality of spelling out what they want.
third, just because a woman says she wants A, B, C, and D doesn't mean she won't accept a guy who has E and F. often what a woman states in her profile are PREFERENCES, not REQUIREMENTS.
fourth, try to picture what's going on here from a woman's perspective. she innocently puts up a profile with attractive photos of herself and gets 50-100 e-mails daily. she games the system by putting stuff in her profile to whittle down the responses to something she can manage. she's entitled to put whatever in her profile she wants to as long as it meets PoF rules and guidelines.
or maybe yet she is a superficial creature. why waste your time wondering why she's superficial?
most guys are going to have to accept a 5-10% response rate, if not less.
because PoF is free, it often draws dregs of both genders to it and/or users looking to manipulate unsuspecting souls.
what i'm saying is PoF is full of flaws; most people are probably better served by real-life experiences, and should look at PoF as a supplement, not a cure-all, to their social lives.
peace. | |
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| Women on POF have standards way too high Posted: 1/3/2007 11:14:57 AM | | My bit ch isnt only about overly high standards women set but their attitudes too. Their attitudes suck, simply put. They are rude, arrogant, condescending, hostile, stuck-up, egomanical, and utterly snobbish. I've never seen a guy with a profile even approaching the level of disgusting rudeness and self-centered behaviour I've seen on scores of women's profiles. Does no one see a problem with that kind of attitude? No of course not, men are exactly the same right? | |
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| Women on POF have standards way too high Posted: 1/3/2007 11:22:14 AM | OK kiddo, you win.
You're just gonna whine and moan. Enjoy that shit sandwhich you're eating.
If you're as much fun in person as you are on-line your penis is going to be all shriveled up and useless by the time you get your next opportunity for sex.
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| Women on POF have standards way too high Posted: 1/3/2007 11:35:11 AM |
I've never seen a guy with a profile even approaching the level of disgusting rudeness and self-centered behaviour I've seen on scores of women's profiles. Does no one see a problem with that kind of attitude?
OK you win, we're all hopeless and will surely die alone and unloved. Maybe you need to try some other dating site, or even just go out to the local bars and clubs...though I suspect any woman who won't sell herself for 20 bucks will have "standards way too high" to suit you... Cindy O | |
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| Women on POF have standards way too high Posted: 1/3/2007 11:36:28 AM | When a woman places her profile on a dating site she is up for auction and wants highs bids. They have to make themselves out to be a prize to be had but the only one's being had are the guys who send them money and stuff and begging for them.
I think some guys won't admit they don't have any results either and want others to believe they are a chick magnet.
When you see a women with a man, the man is usually not all that great. The women are misrepresenting in their profiles letting on they deserve something they can't get anyway in hopes they will get it. That would be a whole flock of rich guys sending them stuff and giving them money. | |
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| Women on POF have standards way too high Posted: 1/3/2007 11:37:01 AM |
I've never seen a guy with a profile even approaching the level of disgusting rudeness and self-centered behaviour I've seen on scores of women's profiles.
Then I suggest you spend an evening reading nothing but mens profiles. | |
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| Women on POF have standards way too high Posted: 1/3/2007 12:06:54 PM | | My friend, most of these girls you describe have serious self-esteem issues. They like to front on the internet because they cannot on line. Considering how easy it is for a girl to get ass in real life, if she's on here, chances are that she's really not as attractive as she may think she is. Being selective on here allows her to fulfill that need that is otherwise left unfullfilled in real life. | |
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| Women on POF have standards way too high Posted: 1/3/2007 12:16:00 PM | I must say that any message I get from a guy on POF I have responded to - I did make the mistake of doing a bit of housework to delete some old messages and inadvertently delete a message that I had not looked at and the guy sent me a couple of mails worth of abuse. God anyone can make a mistake...ok.
It does not take a few minutes to reply to someone and if after chatting you dont like them then just say so and move on. After all - is that not the reason we are on here - to get messages from guys!
Hang in there Roberte1971 I am sure someone will be nice to you. | |
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| Women on POF have standards way too high Posted: 1/3/2007 12:29:02 PM | Dude dude , you are putting gasoline on yourself and setting yourself on fire , women are having alot of fun with you now, they are laughing. Some guys agree , I am sure others too but are too affraid to say it since you torched yourself and they do not want to be asociated with a guy like you who feels like you feel . Others agree because they probably do get great responses or have women and do not need to be here. You burned youself man , if you would have refrained from certain comment women would have eventually torched you for complaining anyhow. Had this done anyhow.
I a gree with you man , I have been here 2 years now and have sent like hundreds of e-mails , I write very well according to my critiques that saw the stuff to give me the thumbs up before sending the e-mails out.
I am sure I am a very good sexy catch , mails responded to or initial comunication from women that had any real positive response interestwise is zero . I do not want to mention why women have not responded or have not chosen me , I do not want to seem like a winer , do not want to be hung by a tree and burned .
Yes I am very picky , very picky, extremely picky, if she is not old fat ugly and insane , she is in , as long as she breaths , she could even live in a dumpster and not take a bath very often .
Yup maybe I should aim a little lower here , hahahahahaha
I get women in the real world , I play games now though , without the games , no girls | |
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| Women on POF have standards way too high Posted: 1/3/2007 12:29:04 PM | @sammylg...Awww shucks...that darn Plato beat me to it again!
Of course we see what men post, and I think you'll find that women (myself included) do make first contact here on PoF.
@ RobertE1971...I've seen some pretty exclusionary lists on men's profiles (one stated that he'd only date blondes of a specific height), but preferences, standards - whatever you want to call them - just tell me I'm not what they're looking for, so really, they're doing me a favour by letting me know right away that I'd be wasting my time.
So why are you wasting your time, your energy, your peace of mind on someone else's "standards"?
Their attitudes suck, simply put. They are rude, arrogant, condescending, hostile, stuck-up, egomanical, and utterly snobbish. I've never seen a guy with a profile even approaching the level of disgusting rudeness and self-centered behaviour I've seen on scores of women's profiles.
Sheesh...this is turning into the sour grapes of wrath now (apologies to Steinbeck) | |
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| Women on POF have standards way too high Posted: 1/3/2007 12:29:09 PM | I have a request to make that I do not think is unreasonable, and since this is an open forum for site members to expres opinins, give advice, etc, here's mine;
The original poster,highkerius Slamopolus, and z3t3 need to pull their heads out of their asses, which would be a HUGE first step towards achieving their dating goals.
There may be SOME women who are for sale to the highest bidder,nor are they the bottom of the sh*tpile looking for any guy they can get.Most of us are here simply as an OPTION to meet men we might not cross paths with in our offline lives. I think internet dating is a GODSEND for those over the age of 30, the busy, those of us who live in small towns or rural areas, those who can't(or won't) RELY on the "bar scene" (or do it AT ALL.because of medical, or ethical issues).
It is my suspicion that SOME guys are having difficulty here because they are IDIOTS,pure and simple. Cindy O | |
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| Women on POF have standards way too high Posted: 1/3/2007 12:37:02 PM | But does that really give the right to demand a huge list of dating criteria?
Sure it does. I know what I'm looking for in a man and I also have the "right" to not play nice and give everyone a chance because they might whine about it.
BTW, when you overgeneralize like that, you come across as a spoiled brat who's been denied a treat and throws a fit. If someone doesn't like you, or if you're not what she's looking for....feel free to move along.
Sheesh.
"I expect this and I expect that, I want this and I want that. Rude, stuck-up, hostile, demanding, snobbish, jaded, and they think they are the world because they have looks and this entitles to whatever they want. They have it so easy, they just sit back and wait for the mail to pile in and then they read and delete at their leisure, weeding out all the unworthy undesirables and selecting the cream of the crop. Makes me sick. If you arent enough of a hunk you just get read and no reply or read deleted.
You talk about our expectations, yet you have the expectation that anyone you contact should message you back, whether or not they have an interest in you. Sooooooo, I have a question...
If you get pages and pages of emails, and only stay logged in for short periods of time because you keep getting messages and IM's, and don't have enough time on the computer to answer everyone....
Would you give every single person the time of day, or just the ones you're interested in? As a woman, I can tell you that if you even get a "hi" email and just say "hi" back, suddenly some nutbar is going to pop up and take that to mean that you're going to get married. They will also message you EVERY time they see you on, even if you're just checking out the profiles of people on the forums.
You have to stop expecting things from complete strangers and, well, grow up a little. Everyone has a "right" to do whatever they want, and owe nothing to you. | |
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| Women on POF have standards way too high Posted: 1/3/2007 12:37:04 PM | ladyc4: What's your problem? What part of what I said isn't true?!
It's a fact! You ladies aren't nearly as attractive offline as you make yourselves out to be on here. That's for the vast majority of you! If you were all that attractive, you wouldn't NEED a dating site to find a man. Don't get angry when confronted with the truth, embrace it.
As for you assuming I'm here to meet my dating goals.. yeah okay there. What do you know about me anyway? Stop talking out of your ass. | |
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