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Posted: 4/18/2005 10:50:17 AM |
I know. That's why I chose to parody yours.
I'll let the less prejudiced (than you) readers who are not right-wingers be the judges of that | |
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Posted: 4/18/2005 10:55:44 AM | I like Bulldogs input. Does he seem like an intolerant di*ck sometimes? *shrugs* probably. Does he have some very strong points? Oh yes.
I am sure I seem like a pr*ck, or an "ignorant" to some at times too.
*shrugs*
what can ya do hu.
We're all only human. | |
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Posted: 4/18/2005 7:18:08 PM | He retained interest in those companies after the war started, even though his own son was flying a carrier plane in the Pacific.
i read the source you put out and nowhere did it say he kept investing. show me a cited quote with a credible author or maybe its another half truth?
maybe it was a typo you made but the Axis was no longer a power after the war. Germany,Italy and Japan has been defeated. | |
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Posted: 4/18/2005 7:29:26 PM | So Hitler fighting against the US wasn't bad enough for him to sell off his stocks in companies that furnished oil, weapons and ammo to the enemy?
what year did he sell those stocks off? and again ill need proof. i bet you it was before 1935 just as a guess.
not only that it wasnt hitler fighting against the U.S. it was the U.S. fighting against hitler starting in 1942. whatever prescotte did before 1939 is not wrong.
all i see is a company that makes steel products. to make weapons and ammo it requires an entirly different company to build it and i never saw prescotte doing bussness with somone like Mauser.
and lets say for arguement sake that prescotte and hitler where close. lets say that prescotte invested in every weapon manufacturing plant germany had. if those weapons where in regulation within the treaty of versallies he still cannot be held accountable. If he invested in somthing like the Bizmark then he should be held accountable because it was a violation of the treaty.
my dad invests in Heckler and koch(german gun manufacturer). so if we went to war with germany tomorrow will he be held accountable? no. because people do that kind of shit all over the world and its perfectly legal.
as a matter of fact the MP-5 sub machine gun was mass produced by Heckler and Koch and is used by almost every urban warfare and SWAT unit in the united states. | |
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| NO WMD, just hundreds of thousands dead.
Posted: 4/18/2005 10:39:26 PM | Ford, Bush and Rockefeller had a big hand in STARTING World War II by funneling money to Hitler.
Bush was forcibly divested of some of his holdings in 1942 by congress under the "Trading with the Enemies Act". I guess you don't have a problem with that or his contributions to Hitler. I do.
Ford Motor Co. Lawsuit
To compensate survivor's of Nazi's
slave-labor in Dusseldorf Ford Plant.
By Will Mooren, Contributor
WASHINGTON - Thanks for the reporting of the Bulldog Newspaper on Wednesday March 18, 1998, about a Class Action law suit filed by a Belgium woman, forced to work as a slave laborer at a Ford plant in Cologne, Germany during World War II. That woman had sued the Ford Motor Company and its German affiliate FORD WERKE A.G.. It sought reasonable payment for the work performed and the disgorgement of unfair profits using slaves to produce Fords for Hitler's war machine.
This case, filed on March 4, 1998 in a US federal court in Newark, demands that the company turn over all profits derived from slave labour to the labourers involved. The claimants allege that Ford's senior US executives were aware of the practice, which began in 1941.
"Ford Werke AG, Ford's German subsidiary, was an eager, aggressive and successful bidder for forced labourers" after the Nazi government introduced forced labour, say lawyers for the claimants. By 1943, 50% of Ford Werke's workers were slave labourers, most non-Germans. As many as 10,000 men, women and children were forced to work for Ford during the war.
Ford admits that slave labour was used at Ford Werke's plant in Cologne but claims its US head office lost contact with its German operations before the US entered the war in December 1941, regaining control only seven years later.
"Relieved of the necessity of paying wages," Ford Werke doubled its profits by 1943, charge the claimants' lawyers. The lawsuit said "the personal friendship" between Henry Ford and Adolf Hitler led to favourable treatment for the Ford company even after the US entered the war.
The plaintiffs allege that Henry Ford each year gave birthday gifts to Hitler, and Hitler awarded him the Great Cross of the German Order of the Eagle in 1938.
I have contacted the Newark law firm handling the law suit to join me into this class action on behalf of my Grandfather and my Father. Many people would not have known of that law suit except for the Bulldog Newpaper's Front Page story. I was one of them. It made me think about what happened to my Father and Grandfather during WWII.
The day after Christmas 1944 they were captured and deported to Germany for forced labor in the factories of "DEMAG AG" in Benrath near Dusseldorf.
They did not return untill after the liberation around June of 1945. My father passed away when I was 8 yrs old and he never talked about it to any family members.
Another family member who was deported to Nazi Germany at the time, recounted that several people froze to death at FORD WERKE A.G. when they were forced to sleep outside the plant in subzero temperatures. Food and medication were witheld by FORD WERKE A.G. unless and until the workers gave up their resistance to the Nazi German war machine.
My Father, Grandfather and Uncle were put to work fabricating parts for Ford's panzer tank and 8.8 cm flack anti-aircraft guns.
They also were forced to work on clean-ups after the British and US bombers bombed the Dusseldorf plant.
I still have his "Ausweis" [foreign worker] identity work permit that was issued by the company. My uncle told me of the brutal conditions under which he was forced to labor and the inhumane conditions at WERKE A.G.
Just last week, CNN finally reported on the law suit against Forme Motor Company, the story that Bulldog News broke on its Front Page as of March 15, 1998.
I hope justice will prevail and that finally restitution will be provided for the slave labor and the in human conditions they had to work in.
It is disgusting to learn that Ford executives had such a close and friendly relationship with the Nazi regime. Let us hope the present day Ford family will find the humility to admit responsiblity for that firm's involvement in furthering the aims of the Nazi war machine and Ford's role in aiding and abetting the Third Reich's destruction of a large part of the World bewteen 1933-1945.
© 1998 Bulldog Newspaper, Inc. All Rights Reserved. | |
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Posted: 4/19/2005 12:19:26 AM | Ford admits that slave labour was used at Ford Werke's plant in Cologne but claims its US head office lost contact with its German operations before the US entered the war in December 1941, regaining control only seven years later. you post stuff that strengthens my point. thanks bro.
The Trading with the Enemy Act is a United States law forbidding trade with enemies in times of war. The official description of the Act, as part of Public Law, is: "An Act To define, regulate, and punish trading with the enemy, and for other purposes."
as far as iv seen he did not trade with germany during wartime. he may have devestid stocks but theres nothing wrong in pulling stocks that where there before the war. remember those key words is a United States law forbidding trade with enemies in times of war.
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Posted: 4/19/2005 6:45:15 AM | | Ah, But 1941 is when the U.S. got into the war, WWII had been going on for years before that. Ford and Bush helped kill many Canadians and Brits during that time. As well as knowing endorsed the use of slave labour. They only got out of it when they were 'Forced" too. What kind of morals do these people have? | |
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| That's why you don't bother collecting....
Posted: 4/19/2005 7:18:10 AM | On the bottom 50 people at all.
Out of a total tax revenue of $5000 the bottom 50 people are contributing a grand, whopping total of $50. 1.01% of total revenues.
Getting rid of that bracket all together would mean cutting the government budget by a whopping 1.01%.
Big deal. | |
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Posted: 4/19/2005 7:30:26 AM | | And don't forget Haliburton and the other Americans corporations, who used their foreign subsidiaries to by pass the American injunction. | |
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Posted: 4/19/2005 7:32:18 AM | Ford was a contributor and campadre of Hitler's. That's an established fact:
"Relieved of the necessity of paying wages," Ford Werke doubled its profits by 1943, charge the claimants' lawyers. The lawsuit said "the personal friendship" between Henry Ford and Adolf Hitler led to favourable treatment for the Ford company even after the US entered the war.
The plaintiffs allege that Henry Ford each year gave birthday gifts to Hitler, and Hitler awarded him the Great Cross of the German Order of the Eagle in 1938.
Now YOU say there's nothing wrong with that. I SAY that Ford, Rockefeller and Bush MADE Hitler what he was and by funneling money to him before the war... just as the US funneled chemicals to make WMD's to Saddam, just as the US made Noriega a military strongman in Panama, CAUSED the second world war and probably realized they were doing it every step of the way.
Now Swifty, if you think people have the right to make money without conscience and shouldn't have to worry about the consequences of their actions, then go ahead and make your rebuttal, but my point has been clearly established that these three and many other American industrialists caused the world to suffer a terrible war where millions of people needlessly lost their lives only for the purpose of them achieving greater wealth.
Trading with the Enemy:
re: Bush*Key words*
He was the director of a corporation that was furnishing arms and oil to the axis during wartime. You're just grasping at straws trying to deny it.
If you don't want to admit you're wrong, that's a typical neocon trait. No point in going further. | |
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Posted: 4/19/2005 7:33:02 AM |
And don't forget Haliburton and the other Americans corporations, who used their foreign subsidiaries to by pass the American injunction.{/quote]
Sure sure.
Haliburton does business with Saddam so American intervention is "all about the oil".
France's TotalFina does business with Saddam so France's diplomatic stance against intervention is because "the war would be illegal".
Can you say double standard? | |
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Posted: 4/19/2005 8:05:47 AM | Not really........I'd just move back to Kentucky where there's plenty of coal. They've been using it for years.
There's gold in them thar hills | |
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Posted: 4/19/2005 9:35:04 AM | Saddam had WMD's and used them during the Iran war... with the US's cooperation...and approval.
You say it's lies, Varus... but it's all there. Just google it up. I've shown enough evidence to prove it's not a lie. | |
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