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| NO WMD, just hundreds of thousands dead. Posted: 4/20/2005 1:28:24 PM |
Liberals are easy to debate just employ logic and they digress to name calling or just leaving the argument altogether.
Funny, but I see this as quite reversed, as being very much as one your's and Wathman's tactics.
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| NO WMD, just hundreds of thousands dead. Posted: 4/20/2005 3:27:40 PM | Varus,
I have tactics? That's news to me. I'm just a poor bumpkin hillbilly.............
Seein' how you're just an 'uneducated hick' Southrunner and all..........well, there is THAT combined with (oh my) South'run Christian values..........and THEN appearing in your profile in 'GREENJEANS'.................... witha gol' dang CHAINSAW, no less............
Well, what'd you expect dem (us) god hatin' Yankee 'libruls' ta think? LOL
If any have falled for the 'aw shucks' routine and personna, I am sure they've learned to regret it.
btw: I 've been curious, and meaning to ask ya................ How tall, and what species, that tree ? And did you mill it for the lumber or just firewood ? (answer via email ? if you want)
p.s. Reading aloud what i've written often helps me determine whether what I've said makes any sense
Me too. Funny how that works to help refine the stickier points of what one thinks they believe.
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| It's not about Iraqi Oil? Posted: 4/21/2005 2:14:52 AM | trewq36 are you realy gonna base everything off one mans opinion? how about if i write an article saying im the messiah and have everyone belive me without a doubt? dont you think they will at least wanna see me walk on water first. basing everything off one authors opinion without concrete proof is the most premature thing enyone can do. maybe he is right and maybe he is wrong. maybe i am wrong but i dont go beliving the first joeblow i see.
if you wanna prove that ford allowed slave labor then show me where Christian Dewar got his information and it must be concrete documents and nothing less.
honestly, i think its a little weird that Edsel Ford could get to nazi germany so easily the way the articles author described it. U-boats shot at everything that moved and fighters shot down every none Axis transport plane. so honestly how could somone get to germany and back so easily without being the slightly worried of being torpedoed or shot down? you guys have to have some sort of reasonable doubt lodged in your heads instead of having this anti-everything american mentality.
i dont discriminate between republican, democratic or green party. i choose what i belive will be best for the country. kerry had some ideas i liked and disliked and bush had ideas i liked and disliked as well as ralph nader. I voted for ralph nader because i thought overall he whould make a better president even though i knew he never had a chance. but i voted for him enyway because of what i belived and i dont jump on every democrat, republican bandwagon that comes along. | |
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| It's not about Iraqi Oil? Posted: 4/21/2005 7:41:09 AM | so swifty... what you're saying is that facts don't matter?
Ford OWNED the plant. There's evidence that Ford's brother RAN the plant. Henry Ford was getting medals from Hitler after the Spanish Civil War... and you're saying Henry Ford had nothing to do with the Ford-Werke operation?
Weak....
Swifty: this isn't even an argument.
The "One man's opinion" you're asking us to believe is YOURS. The facts lead us against it. | |
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| It's not about Iraqi Oil? Posted: 4/21/2005 11:14:00 AM | | Saddam had to go because he took the oil trade of Iraq off the dollar standard onto the euro standard. Iran is at risk now because it is considering doing the same. The euro is steadily rising and the US dollar is sinking. The Bush-Bin Laden oil cartel will do anything to hold on to keep world oil trade tied to the dollar. | |
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| It's not about Iraqi Oil? Posted: 4/21/2005 11:45:00 AM | so swifty... what you're saying is that facts don't matter?
Ford OWNED the plant. There's evidence that Ford's brother RAN the plant. Henry Ford was getting medals from Hitler after the Spanish Civil War... and you're saying Henry Ford had nothing to do with the Ford-Werke operation?
Weak....
Swifty: this isn't even an argument.
The "One man's opinion" you're asking us to believe is YOURS. The facts lead us against it. show me actual facts, if you get all your so called "facts" off that article then dr seuss has about as many facts as the other guy. i want to see recorded documents.
and no shit ford owned the plant. and you keep saying the same shit over and over about his brother getting medals yet you have yet to provide a single recorded document showing or a single picture of his brother with a single medal. dont kid yourself, if you cant turn up good evidence then there isnt eny evidence that shows ford condoned slave labor or him helping build german armor. iv seen a ford motor plant once and they are made for cars and trucks that weigh less then 1 ton. a german tiger weighs over 70 tons and german tanks are assembled from hull and turrent then a crane assembles the turret to the hull. the turret alone weighs over 30 tons. a factory that was designed to build automobiles will need total reconstruction and retrofitting to build tanks. show me a document showing ford allowing the transition from automobile to war machine then youll have me as a beliver. | |
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| It's not about Iraqi Oil? Posted: 4/21/2005 11:49:58 AM | | Swifty: after recorded documents, you'll want printed ones... That's the last time I'll go hunting for anything in a debate with you. You're in a state of deep denial. You can keep your ball and bat and I'll pretend you went home.... | |
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| It's not about Iraqi Oil? Posted: 4/21/2005 11:54:14 AM | nothing fabricated(you tend to do that alot). real authentic documents not written by some joeblow biased author.
i watch the history channel all the time and never saw enything about ford and hitler. the history channel does more research then you and I can ever do in a lifetime. | |
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| It's not about Iraqi Oil? Posted: 4/21/2005 1:50:09 PM | | Swiftcut, sorry, but you lose this one man. We weren't Vichy France, but we weren't the most united of peoples either. Look into "America First." | |
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| It's not about Iraqi Oil? Posted: 4/21/2005 1:53:31 PM | Does anyone remember what****Cheney said about his Haliburton doing business with the government of Myanmar and knowing they were using slave labor on Haliburton's project? I can't remember it exactly, but it was something like: 'Well, sometimes in business you just have to do things you really don't want to..' Made me sick. | |
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| It's not about Iraqi Oil? Posted: 4/21/2005 6:06:58 PM | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I take great delight in the idiosycracy of the POF interface to treat the name of the Vice President as though it were a virtual curse word.
Perhaps it is just a presient omen to future histories. Let's hope so.
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| It's not about Iraqi Oil? Posted: 4/22/2005 2:35:06 AM | Swiftcut, sorry, but you lose this one man. We weren't Vichy France, but we weren't the most united of peoples either. Look into "America First." it doesnt show or prove enything. i saw it. if fords brother was soooo bad then how come noone can come up with a single picture showing his medals? do they even exist? a picture is worth a thousand words.
its possible im wrong or right but at least im man enough to idmit it. its so easy for bush haters to belive somthing anti bush yet so hard to idmit somthing if hes wrong. all i want is proof without reasonable doubt. not only that, elwood talks about the death penalty saying shit like "what if hes innocent and sent to death row"? then we all know that we want proof without reasonable doubt. you know as well as I that this isnt concrete be all end all proof.
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| It's not about Iraqi Oil? Posted: 4/22/2005 9:27:30 AM |
its possible im wrong or right but at least im man enough to idmit it
I doubt your veracity on this Swifty... | |
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| It's not about Iraqi Oil? Posted: 4/22/2005 9:43:11 PM |
I doubt your veracity on this Swifty... im done with this discussion, you can belive all you want basing everything on lack of facts I will belive things based on unbiased fact.
G W Bush is president and im glad. saddam is in custody and not one airliner has been hijacked since bush declared war on terror and afghanistan is no longer ruled by an evil mob. so go ahead and blame it on oil because when the time comes youll see its not about the oil and you will be eating your own words. Bush won the election fair and square so that puts you at the american minority thank god. | |
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| It's not about Iraqi Oil? Posted: 4/22/2005 9:47:16 PM |
Swifty: after recorded documents, you'll want printed ones... That's the last time I'll go hunting for anything in a debate with you. because you cant turn enything up and trying to be very evasive since you dont have eny proof. | |
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| From London Posted: 7/13/2005 10:41:38 PM | I am intrigued and................................. Sheel | |
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| Hitler Posted: 7/24/2005 2:42:36 PM | | I don't know why you keep arguing........everybody knows that Bush is another Hitler out to control the world. Put a mustache on him and he looks like Hitlers son. | |
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| Hitler Posted: 7/25/2005 9:45:57 AM | | This is another war the almighty 'superpower' is going to loose. And the rest of the world will have a laugh at you.. again. | |
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| Hitler Posted: 7/25/2005 10:24:57 PM | | Swiftcut,why does it hurt so much to know some late American industrialists may have had dealings with bad people and profited from those relationships?This is the way the capitalist system is set up to work.People in power profit from war.This is why wars generally happen and also why the poor fight them.Accept it.There's nothing for you to be personally embarassed about.It's o.k. | |
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| Hitler Posted: 7/25/2005 11:38:28 PM |
People in power profit from war.This is why wars generally happen and also why the poor fight them.Accept it.There's nothing for you to be personally embarassed about.It's o.k.
Swifty is one of those "poor" people fighting these wars. I don't think he needs you to tell him which way the wind blows. | |
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| Hitler Posted: 7/26/2005 8:50:22 AM | | Unfortunately bulldog that was'nt the main point of my post,just icing so to speak.I was simply telling swiftcut what he already knew in relation to dealings between the power brokers and the bad guys in power. | |
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