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What gives is this soldier takes orders that he has to follow weather you like it or not you have to follow orders thats all part of joinin the military and they teach you that from day one . Its not that hard to comprehend is it? You dont just pick and choose the orders you wanna follow. Now do you get it?

I think it is so funny how so many people get duped into following a false prophet.

Sign up today, give up all your worldly belongings (to me) and stand by me (Heavens Gate, or the Johannesburg Cult?). So that tomorrow we all shall commit suicide in his name to glorify us, mentality.

To glorify this scum tells me there are a lot of miss guided souls out there. If he has conned you this well, he has a bridge for sale also.

and do you get that "just following orders" has led to some of the most horrific crimes against humanity of the last century?

Speaking against his Government is an act of Treason.

You are referring to Bush, right?

The word has a very broad definition......I define it as being grossly disloyal to ones country....

Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.

Does the legal definition not include "grossly disloyal to ones country or sovereign"......maybe I can't read?

for those who support what this loser did, what if it expands? in basic training, all the newbies can **** when they have to fold their underwear in 6 inch squares because it is stupid. a soldier in iraq can refuse to get up at 5am because he is tired! it will go on and on! everyone can just do what THEY think is right. that will make us really effective.


unfortunately, for an army to be successful there must be obedience. you might not like or agree with what you are told to do. oh well. you signed up for it and AGREED to do what you are told. if you can't follow orders, don't join. and like i said, this guy joined AFTER we were in iraq. he knew what he was getting into beforehand. i hope he goes to jail for a long time

Odd the anology used between Nazi Soldiers following orders and illegally Mass-Murdering UNARMED CIVILIANS in WWII, and this Incident of a Soldier refusing orders to confront ARMED Iraqis who can shoot back.. There really is no way to compare the Legality or ethical value between the two.

The My Lai story is one of heroes as well villains. One such hero is Hugh Thompson, Jr., a helicopter reconnaissance pilot who came upon the My Lai massacre in progress. Chief My Lai prosecutor William Eckhardt described how Thompson responded to what he found when he put his helicopter down: "[Thompson] put his guns on Americans, said he would shoot them if they shot another Vietnamese, had his people wade in the ditch in gore to their knees, to their hips, took out children, took them to the hospital...flew back [to headquarters], standing in front of people, tears rolling down his cheeks, pounding on the table saying, 'Notice, notice, notice'...then had the courage to testify time after time after time."

http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/mylai/Myl_hero.html

Sometime later, we saw some people huddle in a bunker and the only thing I could see at that particular time was a woman, an old man, and a couple of kids standing next to it. We look over here and see them and look over there and see the friendly forces, so I landed the helicopter again. I didn't want there to be any confusion or something; I really don't know what was going on in my mind then.

I walked over to the ground units and said, "Hey, there's some civilians over here in this bunker. Can you get them out?" They said, "Well, we're gonna get them out with a hand grenade." I said, "Just hold your people right here please, I think I can do better." So I went over to the bunker and motioned for them to come out, everything was OK. At that time I didn't know what I was going to do, because there was more than three or four there, more like nine or ten or something like that. So I walked back over to the aircraft and kind of kept them around me and called the pilot that was flying the low gunship and said, "Hey, I got these people here down on the ground, and you all land and get them out of here." So he agreed to do that, which I think was the first time a gunship's ever been used for that. There's enough of them there that he had to make two trips and he picked them up and took them about ten miles or so behind the lines and dropped them off.

A short while later we went back to the ditch. There was still some movement in there. We got out of the aircraft and Androtta, my crew chief, walked down into the ditch. A few minutes later he came back up carrying a little kid. We didn't know what we were gonna do with this one either, but we all get back in the aircraft and figure we'd get him back to the orphanage or hospital back over at Quang Ngai. In examining him in the aircraft that day, the kid wasn't even wounded, or we didn't see any wounds, I'll put it that way. He was covered with blood, and the thought was going through my mind and my crew's mind, "How did these people get in that ditch?"

After coming up with about three scenarios, one of them being an artillery round hit them, you wipe that out of your mind 'cause every house in Vietnam, I think, has a bunker underneath it. If artillery was coming there, they would go to the bunker; they wouldn't go outside in the open area. Then I said, well, when artillery was coming, they were trying to leave and a round caught them in the ditch while they were going for cover. I threw that one out of my mind. Then something just sunk into me that these people were marched into that ditch and murdered. That was the only explanation that I could come up with.

Taking the child to the hospital was a day I'll never forget. It was a very sad day, very mad day, very frustrated and everything. So later in the afternoon, (this was brought up when everything hit and became public during interrogations, the Department of the Army IG was asking me about the incident and I had totally blocked it out of my mind. I had no idea what this guy was questioning me for), after the mission that day, I went back to our operations area, which is over in LC Dottie and I was very upset. I was very mad.

I reported to my platoon leader. He said let's go see the operations officer. In turn we went to our commander and the words were said for me that day that, you know, dean this up. "If this damn stuff is what's happening here," I told him, "You can take these wings right now 'cause they're only sewn on with thread." I was ready to quit flying.

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