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 maeflowers

Joined: 1/15/2006
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Posted: 1/13/2007 7:53:51 PM
...I'd just like to add a touch of humour to this very serious subject.....I'm thinking that with all this fear of "inheriting something" it may be wise for the ladies to visit the local love shop and the dollar store and stock pile the batteries...its either that or abstinenance, works for me (the abstinenance) haha.



...maeflowers
 plums4u

Joined: 11/19/2006
Msg: 52
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Posted: 1/13/2007 10:19:01 PM
nursing homes don't cause herpes. The message was that people can have an std in their systems for years and don't know it . That is why it is so important to get tested.
 Thorb

Joined: 7/15/2005
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Posted: 1/14/2007 7:26:46 AM
Yes ... and if you showed half as much concern about the flu ... the whole world would be healthier.... [more old people die from the flu than std's by far]

so If you are sick.... stay home ... don't spread it.
If you go to work sick you are a greater health risk to society than anyone with an std.
and same goes for your kids ... don't send them to school sick.

Let's get our parinoia into the right area.
 plums4u

Joined: 11/19/2006
Msg: 54
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Posted: 1/14/2007 2:39:32 PM
Thorb>>>> I agree with you.
 serenityCW

Joined: 1/21/2006
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Posted: 1/14/2007 8:29:01 PM
as a person old enough to be a granny but who adopted her teens in her 50's and a prior health care researcher/strategist, i am concerned for my kids as well as for me. but it amazes me how little people are aware. i'll spare the statistics, although i have them if pressed. but for one, if you have ever had a herpes blister on your mouth even if as a wee child, and you date a person with a sensitive immune system and have unprotected oral sex, you can pass it on. many herpes blisters in the genital area reflect oral herpes as opposed to genital herpes. only recently has a test come into play that can distinguish if you are carrying either, especially if you have not blistered yourself. therefore a person who has had a blister and takes valtrex might be less likely to pass herpes to you, than a person who does not take such medication and may be a carrier or shedding the virus unknowingly. it is the practice of the health care delivery system to focus purely on those who have blistered. in fact, certain blood banks are limited to only taking blood from about 15 percent of the population to treat newborns and at risk infants because those persons must never have had EVEN an oral blister.

now to make life even worse, the cancer causing papillo virus can be spread above the condomn area and as we speak my friend's kid is being evaluated for uterine cancer from that virus. apparently not everyone carrying the virus will get cancer and just recently a vaccine was introduced. i personally having seen what happened with the lymes disease vaccine would wait a bit before i rushed. and of course it's for women, they are waiting to get the male vaccine accepted (as usual).

so it's as i said to my kids. your Higher Power has a sense of humor. you were given sexual expression. but w/o the use of the rest of your gifts and jumping into sexual activity w/o the rest of a relationship will get you an STD for sure. a trignonometric function. if you know and love a person, you will figure out a way. but if you don't care and you personally have not seen signs of an STD, i doubt that most people would make the effort and expend the resources to see what exactly they are CARRYING. not even the medical establishment wants to touch this issue, way too expensive for the health care industry to address.
 skunk12pu

Joined: 1/28/2006
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Posted: 1/14/2007 9:19:57 PM
"April Showers" And with Abstinance you don't have to stock pile all those batteries .
I heard you can keep them in the fridge for awhile...the batteries that is...
Good Grief!
Skunk
 Scotchlassie

Joined: 4/24/2006
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Posted: 1/15/2007 7:18:58 AM
I'm a grandma, and I will not have sex with a fella unless he uses a condom - until he's tested and I see the results in black and white
 eye4light

Joined: 7/12/2006
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Posted: 1/16/2007 1:46:37 AM
nursing homes don't cause herpes.

Plums, when I said, "OK, you've convinced me - nursing homes cause herpes.", it was a joke.

Everybody knows that herpes is really caused by exposure to the light of the full moon...or was it, lookng too deeply into someones eyes? ...no no, it's caused by being pricked by the thorns of roses...or...something like that.



 merrymeet

Joined: 10/3/2006
Msg: 59
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Posted: 1/16/2007 3:13:53 PM
OK, all joking aside, the milder forms of these diseases can be avoided by the use of condoms. I personaly don't like them, but....for the more prolific partakers its better to be safe than sorry.
The best way of course is to get to know the person you are going to sleep with. It's more fun and meaningful too.
The main problem is not catching the milder forms of these diseases, but not having it treated immediately. There are backward idiots who either feel too ashamed to go to see the doc' or they think it's going to go away on its own or something. It's far better to have 10 days or so on antibiotics and stop the chain of infection there. If everybody did this it would drasticaly cut down on the number of people in society being infected.
Another good thing is to go for a regular check up just to make sure.
PERESPHONE, as a nurse i couldn`t agree with you more. We all take risks the smart thing is to get sorted.
 moondowner

Joined: 11/7/2005
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Posted: 1/18/2007 3:50:04 PM
Doesn't everyone use condoms and get tested these days??? Why take chances, when it doesn't take much of an effort? Surely if you're single you've managed to go without sex for more than a couple weeks at a time, and can manage a few more while both of you get "certified".

Nah, I wash my hand before and after.
 stangsnthangs

Joined: 1/7/2007
Msg: 61
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Posted: 1/22/2007 3:29:15 PM
*sigh* A condom won't always protect you from STDs. Here is a site to get more information on the most common stds. HSV1, HSV2 and HPV.

http://www.westoverheights.com/freebooktext.html
 weefishee

Joined: 12/27/2006
Msg: 62
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Posted: 1/22/2007 7:07:39 PM
I am in Canada and just heard the latest statistic for Canada. Not exactly a compliment to women over 40. The most common STD is venerial warts. But who do you suppose are the carriers? Men and women in thier 40's and 50's. Hey I didn't do the study but those are the facts. And I posted a thread here on POF in Canada with regards to kissing and asking a potential partner to get checked at a doctor, never mind full intercourse but kissing. The reactions weren't very positive. I wasn't suprised either as I have met some and understand who are the majority of people on line.
 affair of the heart

Joined: 1/6/2007
Msg: 63
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Posted: 1/23/2007 7:34:20 PM
Pinebreeze, I appreciate what you had to say. You seem to be quite level headed about the whole issue and do not exagerate the topic out of proportion.
The biggest concern with STd's is ignorance on the subject. For the person who may have and STD it is the stigma which acompanies that ignorance which in turn leads to embarrasment humiliation etc for the person who has it. As you mentioned in your reply herpes sores on the mouth can be passed on to the genital area when oral sex is performed. So why does society think nothing of seeing herpes on the face yet if it is in the genitle area it becomes an issue, it is the same virus type 1 and type2. It is important for a person who has STD to be honest with a partner and tell them. It takes trememdous courage for a person to reveal such an issue to a potential partner so having educated yourself about the STD it won't seem so frightening any more. Knowledge is power.
 Realist59

Joined: 8/24/2006
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Posted: 1/23/2007 8:23:49 PM
I'm curious.....what goes on in the head of someone who has unprotected sex with a number of people and doesn't get tested?? STD's can't possibly happen to me because I have some kind of invisible force field protecting my organ?? Statistics show what can happen to other people, not me?? How do people rationalize their actions when told they've passed on an STD??

PS Moondowner, you must stop being such a germaphobe!
 herpes 2

Joined: 11/20/2006
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Posted: 1/23/2007 8:30:12 PM
Why would anybody think that a condom would help prevent the spread of herpes? Perhaps it may keep 6 inches herpes free. It's that 7th inch and beyond that will do you in. The best way to prevent herpes is to have a partner with a conscience.
 cas99999

Joined: 1/9/2007
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Posted: 1/26/2007 5:59:30 PM
Sweet mother of GOD , I just thought about the last women I slept with is not a grandma, damn will I wake up with WARTS?
 aNgeLiCbLoNdiE

Joined: 9/7/2006
Msg: 67
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Posted: 1/25/2008 4:20:59 PM
Bought a souvenir in London
Got to hide it from my mom
Can't declare it at the Customs
But I'll have to take it home
Tried to keep it confidential
But the news is leaking out
Got a souvenir in London
There's a lot of it about

Yes, I found a bit of London
I'd like to lose it quick
Got to show it to my doctor
'Cause it isn't going to shrink
Want to keep it confidential
But the truth is leaking out
Got a souvenir in London
There's a lot of it about
 nckyra1955

Joined: 1/14/2008
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Posted: 1/25/2008 4:34:47 PM

do you wrap it up, demand it's wrapped up, or do you take your chances..


Definitely wrap it up, no wrap, no can do!

If he doesn't have a wrapper, I always carry some. Kind of like American Express, never leave home without them!!!
 serenityCW

Joined: 1/21/2006
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Posted: 1/26/2008 4:16:54 PM
as previously mentioned, most people are CARRIERS of the herpes viruses (including oral) and a good number of people with genital herpes are victims of oral transmission. unfortunately, most medical practices only test for those who have visible blisters. if you want to test for being a carrier, you will have to argue with your dr. and your insurance company to get the test. public health officials do not want a scare and don't have the budget to put all these carriers on prevention meds.

only a few labs perform carrier testing accurately and can distinguish between the both viruses. some say it's not important (to save money on testing), but it is very important as one form is more severe and more likely to recurr in active outbreak.

most people in the dating craze, will not pay out of pocket for this test on a regular basis--after each occurence of unprotected sex. further more a condom does not always cover the infected area. that is especially true for papillo virus. then of course there is concern about the efficacy and safety of that vaccination.

what does this all boil down to? RELATIONSHIPS. with a monogamous and committed, well thought out relationship, you can feel comfortable to review both your sexual histories, "invest" in the proper testing to uncover any "carrier" potential and then get whatever treatment or prevention meds that are needed and get on with the rest. if you are monogamous, and if you test properly, you should be able to cope with whatever your findings. herpes is one of the easiest to treat on a prevention basis with respect to partner transmission.

the rapid rise of these diseases and their spread are from a "logarithmic" number of partners and yes, the older crowd is trying very hard to get it all before their chances are lost. what they don't seem to get, is the rest of what is needed in a relationship. a while ago, i read that AIDS is accelerating in the older crowd. when i was actively compiling data, fifteen years ago, the concern was more for the preteens! the data was not specific to Florida, although maybe more seniors to make it more evident. as an ex health care researcher and strategist, i would say mature venereal disease is increasing like wildfire. if you are interested, the stats are available.

it's like i tell my kids. G-d has a sense of humor.
 redarcangel

Joined: 1/12/2007
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Posted: 1/27/2008 5:53:53 PM
I couldn't agree more kennedsh...

Then again..condoms don't protect against all STD's. So..having sex at all makes one vulnerable to some degree or other to different types of STD's. Abstinence truly is the only way to assure yourself against all STD's. Otherwise..you're taking a chance.
 phenomenall88dy

Joined: 12/20/2007
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Posted: 3/8/2008 10:31:15 PM
I believe the latest stats are 1 in 3 people have herpes, so count off people, it's someone you know and maybe love.
 Lil Brooker

Joined: 12/29/2007
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Posted: 3/8/2008 10:55:50 PM
There are issues pertinent to this forum.

Granny's guy can get hard enough to have sex but not hard enough to put a condom on.

Granny's guy cheats with hookers or bar flops.

Granny is infected.

Sex in dreams is a reality.
 gotone

Joined: 2/23/2008
Msg: 73
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Posted: 3/9/2008 12:09:00 PM
****Wrap it up*****if you want to be sure these men dont carry STD and other disease because most women's part are easily and open to infections. I suggest you tell them to get tested as their "peenus" can carry and not knowing it as it is there for months and still pass it along from men, women, bi-sex. Yes, men are the one that carry the diseases as most of the diseases don't affect men except HIV. Then the women get it and have sex with others through oral or sex and still pass it along. I know a guy who was a RN nurse and told me everything about it. Pretty serious and disgusting. I did alot of research and came to find out it is the men that carry it. No wonder women get infected and died or to suffer for life.
Listen up women, buy toys and enjoy it. ha! Why risk your life? I am a very clean cut lady and dont take the chances especially if those have HIV, HPV, STD etc..
**for those who are looking for intimate encounter, sex play etc...watch out. Could they be the one and especially the one who are separated or married and why go out and have fun or looking for initimacy. Think about it. "RISKY" Think, Think, Think before you do anything.
 gotone

Joined: 2/23/2008
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Posted: 3/9/2008 12:18:26 PM
Thank you for the informations. I hope others will learn from you too. I think all women should be tested to see if they have std, hpv etc. Would not hurt to find out but to protect one another especially if someone truly love someone.
I would rather load up my drawer with batteries. HA! free from the diseases.
Thanks again.
 Enigma252

Joined: 3/1/2008
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Posted: 3/9/2008 2:54:59 PM
Yes, indeed. I just met a charming gentleman on another site, not a swinger's site, who was a self-proclaim sexologist giving lectures complete with a website. He travels to swinger's clubs such as Club Hedonism in Negril Jamaca. I was blown away by this. The man was 60 years old. I told him that I'm an "old hippy" and when through this phase in my early 20's. I have two friends who have AIDS. One of them looks totally normal. I assume that he writes off his trips as business expenses. I can't believe these places still exist. I told a couple of my married lady friends about this. We are all laughing!
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