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Posted: 1/19/2008 9:33:33 AM | very interesting . . . . .
[He is personable, neat and clean, well groomed, dressed nicely and maybe even in expensive designer clothes. So you are thinking to yourself, "This guy seems to have his act together/quote]
okay, so . . . . one "having one's act together" entails being well groomed, dressed "nicely", maybe even expensive/designer clothes? I feel that I "dress nicely" . . . but by no means am I a fashion hound. I wear the ORIGINAL "designer label" . . . Levi Strauss. Don't own any Dockers. Hmmm maybe that's why no chix ever say "dude . . . nice pants" . . . So by that rationale I am wondering whether I truly have my act together . . . .
[When I see a guy's place in this condition, I worry that he has a sick mind and is either an ax murderer or a serial rapist./quote]
OH, for Christ's sakes . . . . I'm not even going to TOUCH that one. you WERE joking, right?
[I also try to eliminate guys who are insulting, condescending, rude and have no sense of humor. I guess that leaves you out./quote]
but wait . . . . weren't your comments towards this gentleman rather insulting, condescending AND rude ? ? ? do i detect a subtle hint of . . . . pot/kettle/black?
[A former boyfriend washed his Harley almost every day, and I was lucky to get a foot rub once a week./quote]
generally, women tend to make guys "earn" treats, goodies, etc. I.E. foot rubs, back massages, hummers, new positions. Had you done anything to EARN your beloved foot rub? A harley Davidson is a fine piece of American machinery and deserves to be washed 2 or 3 times a week. How do think all those bikes out there that are 7 years old still look they were brand new last year?
Doesn't feel so good when the shoe is on the other foot now, does it?
WOW i wonder how OPie feels about us (well groomed) long hairs? | |
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Posted: 1/19/2008 9:39:26 AM | I didn't read most of the responses as I figured your OP wasn't worth the time.
That being said.....
well groomed, dressed nicely and maybe even in expensive designer clothes. So you are thinking to yourself, "This guy seems to have his act together." .....I guess this goes to show you that you shouldn't judge a book by it's cover eh?
Here's hoping you don't explode at one of these guys places and makes even more of a mess. | |
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Posted: 1/19/2008 10:20:08 AM |
IT MAKES MY HEAD EXPLODE.
That'a all he needs, just please do it close to the toilet next time.
Don't worry Blonde Comet, eventually you will meet my brother, who keeps his place cleaner thsan a hospital! But then the sex will probably be a let down. | |
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Posted: 1/19/2008 10:48:43 AM | | me ex cleans as well as any woman. He has certain ways he does everything. Folds his laundry, t-shirts, shorts, button downs, just like they were in the package when he got them new. With 3 kids, my house is clean enough to be healthy, and dirty enough to be happy. I just dont worry about cleaning house all the time, though there was a time when i cleaned from the time i got home from work, till I went to bed. | |
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Posted: 1/19/2008 11:35:37 AM | I am in some ways a slob, I love it that way, and it won't change. If it just doesn't matter much, it doesn't get attention. When it does matter, I am clean and meticulous. My work is pristine because other people will have to deal with it. I treat safety and reliability seriously with my possessions and hobbies (I have dangerous hobbies). I organise my tools, electronic and computer components, etc.. so I can find what I need quickly when I need them, but my work area is a mess with everything I need close and accessible. My document filing and the organisation on my computers and data is meticulous. I won't waste my time washing the truck or preventing rust on the sheet metal, because it doesn't harm the functionality of the vehicle. The truck is a mess but the windows are always clean, because that matters. I dented up my vehicle in a fender bender several years ago and never fixed it, because it doesn't matter. This seems to bother a lot of people and I routinely get the "don't you have any pride" comment. My answer is "I'm proud of my accomplishments, not my possessions". People at work just don't understand how my desk can be such a complete mess while my work is clean and meticulous.
I just won't waste time on doing things that bring no value or results for the sake of looking good. How things look means nothing to me, how functional things are means everything to me. | |
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Posted: 1/19/2008 11:48:50 AM | Hello Blonde comet;
Is that Comet like the cleanser?
Terry | |
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Posted: 1/19/2008 12:52:43 PM | My place is clean. I have a cleaning lady come every 2 weeks to vaccum and dust, and clean the bathrooms. I clean the bathrooms the weeks that she doesn't come. Easily the best money I'll ever spend. I come home on a thursday (I get 3 day weekends) and the house is nice and clean, smelling great. I don't have to waste my friday cleaning, so it's a win - win situation.
I grew up in a clean household, and was used to doing chores. I have seen women who lived in pigstys as well, but again this isn't all women. There are all types and levels of clean.I have 2 paintings on the wall and thats it. No shelves full of nick knacks, crap on every available open space, just more stuff to dust. | |
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Posted: 1/19/2008 2:41:40 PM | if we men were all perfect, women would be unhappy
-cuz they wouldn't have anything to b!tch about.  | |
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Posted: 1/19/2008 2:53:24 PM | Holy H3ll, lol
I always thought it was the GUYS that wanted women to be a combo of Martha Stewart, Betty Crocker, Tim Allen, and Angelina Jolie! That way they'd have a spotless home, someone to fix all the problems with a sense of humor, make 'em a fabulous meal, and then go to bed looking like she could set the room on fire, lol. Sorry fellers....this gal just ain't that. Still, though a few things are sometimes out of place, and the knick-knacks may not get dusted as often as they should, my home is generally clean....just lived in. As far as men go....only thing I expect is if they have a ton of mud on their boots, they should take 'em off before hittin the carpet, to practice personal hygiene, and to know what a trash can is, lol. Past that, I'm pretty flexible.
broomstrike has the right idea!!! lol | |
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Posted: 1/19/2008 3:36:05 PM | | I know a buddie way up north who has 2 classic Harley,s in his den, 1 custom Harley in one room and another in another room and his house is very clean and yes he rides em in and out so picture that if you can and go on and laugh cause i do, but i do have the greatest respect for him as he is a good friend and he would do anything to help anyone of us out. | |
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Posted: 1/19/2008 3:36:09 PM | My Mother told me to always keep something untidy when I invited a date over to my house. Because if the date just ****ed about it and didn't pitch in and help straighten up she was not worth keeping around. You see my mother told me long ago that some/most women like all the "free stuff" and many didn't want to have to do anything to show they appreciate you as a man/person. They just like all the free stuff that comes with dating a man; ie, dinner, movies, weekend trips, long vacations, jewelry, resorts, clothes, shoes, nicknack's etc...etc.. Things that cost much money for the man to provide to his girlfriend and in most cases women do not feel like they have to show (in actions not words) that they respect the man, nor do they feel an obligation to share the cost . Granted, helping out straightening up a house is but a small part of it. Mother told me "Actions Speak Much Louder Than Mere Words. Men show respect and appreciation in many ways, after all if it was just a "lay" the man wanted he would go buy it much cheaper or take care of it himself. Usually at the first sign a woman thinks it is time to find greener pastures before she has to show compassion or "take action" she will complain instead of helping out and use that as an excuse to move on to her next victim.
Just something to think about lady's.
M. | |
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Posted: 1/19/2008 3:53:15 PM | OK first of all; all men are not messes. When I invite a lady over I make for damn sure that the house is clean there might be a plate in the sink or a glass. My shoes are expensive so they are neatly put in the closet. I even make and extra effort to make sure the toilet is clean and the bathroom smells fresh. The only problem you would have is my mountain bike in the living room. I don't have a garage and I don't have a spare room to stash it in and I am not going to put a mountain bike outside so it can rust away. Mountain bikes ( good ones) are not cheap. I don't ride it as much during the winter but enjoy riding it during the summer time.
Thats my 2 cents.
Ron | |
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Posted: 1/19/2008 4:04:27 PM | Whaaaah,. Whaaah,.. Frikkin' Whahh.. If you don't like car & bike parts in the house,.. Go home. When I go to your house, I'm neat, clean, reverant. Won't make a mess, (if I do I'll clean it up) carry my dishes to the sink,.maybe.. even wash them.. When you're at My house,.get used to it. If it bothers you,. Don't come over. Don't squeal if you see a spider..they are on patrol eating roaches. Don't b-i-t-c-h when I let the dogs in, and they jump on you, & what's left of the furniture and try to cuddle. If the dirty dishes in the sink bother you.. WASH them, or shut up.( I may even have a set of rubber gloves laying around if you need them) Yes! I AM A MESS!,.. and Dayum proud! I'd have to actually like you before inviting you to my house. And,. If I like you, there's a GOOD chance you're not shallow enough to be bothered by my horrid mess...unless you haven't been honest,.. THEN,. I'm sure it will come out!  
AND.. we can only hope your head DOES explode, and you HUSH! | |
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Posted: 1/20/2008 7:19:38 AM | Ron (Message #329):
My ex-husband kept his HARLEY in the family room occasionally. Drove it straight in through the back door.
The mountain bike is no big deal, but he kept that in the shed.
The Harley wasn't too bad, and he removed it when we finally had the lower level of the house redone. When that happened, I kinda missed being able to hang my lingerie on the Harley to dry. | |
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Posted: 1/20/2008 7:28:25 AM | | The OP shows us all why judging a book by it's designer clothed cover is foolish in the first place. It works in the bars and online it seems. When are you girls going to get with the times and find some NEW indicators??? | |
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Posted: 1/20/2008 7:31:18 AM | What the OP needs is a nice little metro-sexual... I hear they even come with professionally manicured nails!
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Posted: 1/20/2008 7:43:22 AM | | There IS a problem with this scenario, but it is more with the discrepancy between an "image" the individual, male in this case, is attempting to pull off, versus the reality of "who" he really is...shows some of the indicators of a generic scam artist...one who attempts to use a masquerade of elitism, culture, and wealth to seduce women who may or may not be prone to the enticement of materialism, vanity, and social hierarchy. Look at the entire package people, with eyes wide open...look for the discrepancies...and therein you'll find the truth, or lack of it. | |
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Posted: 1/20/2008 9:05:36 AM | When you stated your first instinct was to turn around immediately and run screaming from the place. Did you do it???
My male friends are very tidy and organized more so then I am. My grandmother once said "I would rather have 10 men in my house then 1 woman!" That speaks volumes!
From experience I find when a persons home is disorganized is because they are too busy to clean up! Maybe you should have offered if you were that offended! LOL | |
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Posted: 1/20/2008 9:37:08 AM | | OP- Here's the umpteen billionth post telling you that this is NOT a gender-specific issue. I have plenty of male friends who are neat and some female friends who are utter and complete slobs. I myself am somewhere in the middle. I have a lot of clutter, but my place is not filthy. Plus, when school is in session (I'm a night student), my place is a heck of a lot messier than I would let it get if I were home more often. Right now, it looks like a tornado hit it. The thing is, I would NEVER bring a date to my home again without cleaning up first. I was so ashamed the one time I did that. I brought someone home with me during finals week last year. I told him ahead of time that I had not been home much and asked him to please excuse the mess. I woke up the next morning HORRIFIED that I had let someone see my place in that state. He never said anything about it, but I was really ashamed. | |
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Posted: 1/20/2008 10:18:29 AM | If I accept an invitation to someone's home, it would seem to me to be in bad taste to critique. If it is messy and I feel I want to help with cleaning up, I offer to help....your choice to accept or reject.....
If you are invited to my home and it doesn't meet your exacting standards......just take leave and go.........
What really is this thread about?????
Dont have anything better to do? Life being a b*tch for you? Someone treated you badly and you have to take it out on somebody....anybody?
Very sad opening post..........some real nutcases around........... | |
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Posted: 1/20/2008 10:39:31 AM | | Boy you got blasted on this one didnt you???? some folks on pof dont have alot of tact..hey its free, what do u expect I guess?????anyway messy is one thing,filth is another I cant deal with the latter..the huge question is why would anyone invite anyone over with their home like that..!!????Its a matter of pride.. how you didnt have any clue just by looking at him is beyond me..was his car a pig pen also????happy fishing.. | |
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Posted: 1/20/2008 11:46:19 AM | was his car a pig pen too?? Yes it was....As for him....just to meet him he was very neat and clean....and I knew when we got to his Yukon at the airport I was in for a ride ....actually there was not place for me to put my feet for the garbage.....I had on black pants and there was dog hair inches thick on the seat....you can imagine.....I did learn my lesson....I just guess I never dreamed someone would actually live that way.....Folks I am not talking about clutter...out of order....pack rat....a lil mess......horrible living conditions more like it.......and BTW he was retired and home all the time....Hey I have a friend that keeps his Harley in his kitchen.....don't blame him....He doesn't want it stolen......and keeps it out of the winter weather....I can deal with that.....I was just stating out of the ordinary here....Angel | |
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Posted: 1/20/2008 12:01:43 PM | | tsk, tsk, tsk, OP have we learned nothing? just because the dishes have to be done the very second dinner is over has nothing to do with me being female. i've met men who are the very same way. this is not a gender thing, just a personality thing. (oh and i'm working on becoming less hmm... what's the word, anal? and just relaxing more, i can wait almost a whole 1/2 hour now before doing the dishes!) | |
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Posted: 1/20/2008 12:09:19 PM | | Just advertise for a man with OCD. Sorted! | |
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Posted: 1/20/2008 12:16:34 PM | I also seen women same way she worked in health care. Seen her car with dirty
dirty diapers in back seat which she had no kids so she tells me, dirty clothes in car empty chip bags. Went for late breakfast there cook bacon and eggs together
yuk. could'nt wait to escape from this . | |
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