| MEN ARE MESSES! Posted: 1/7/2007 6:58:34 PM | Truly a one-sided post.... I'm a male, own my own home, and though humble, take a great deal of pride in it. Truth be told, may of my ex's (including my ex-wife), were less than tidy. Being a bad housekeeper is NOT gender-specific. Your post is offensive to the males here that take pride in their surroundings. DavidBryan
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| MEN ARE MESSES! Posted: 1/7/2007 8:31:47 PM | My house is a mess. I just buy a new house every year rather than clean my old one. I have to get to work on selling some of old, dirty houses, though. They are piling up.
I got dirty underwear hanging from the ceiling fixtures and the door knobs are covered in fecal matter. Ran out of toilet paper in May. Lousy builder.
Time to get a new house. | |
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| MEN ARE MESSES! Posted: 1/7/2007 8:34:48 PM | lol you mean some of you guys don't clean up in a mad rushed hurry before a girl comes over? For shame!! Didn't you real the Manual? I'm just going to have to send in the MP's (men police) and have your liscenses revoked. You have to get them hooked on you before you start showing them your messy apartment/house. SLAP SLAP
actually I'm fairly clean....I'm no neat freak though but you wont find any suprises here.
The Manual also discloses that neat freak men are in fact Metro Sexual and they have a completely different book to follow and its a loooong sucker  | |
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| MEN ARE MESSES! Posted: 1/8/2007 2:08:53 AM | | Oh I clean up in a rushed hurry before someone comes over. Still with the feedback I get from my mother, I know it is never enough. I'm attempting to get rid of a lot of stuff which would otherwise add to the clutter more often than I accumulate stuff now. It is tough, but I'm getting it done. Nobody said that part was easy. Deciding to throw stuff away when you want to be as environmentally friendly as possible is like trying to be hypocrite. The point is to only get things which will last. Cataloging that which we have and throwing away the rest is half the battle. The other half is knowing where each of those items in the catalog are. I practically need a blueprint of my collections! | |
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| MEN ARE MESSES! Posted: 1/8/2007 7:11:55 AM | Alot of gray area here dont ya think..I agree messy is one thing FILTH is another I dont care how busy our lifestyles can be.....Oh shes coming over ,I wont clean off a place to sit!!!Give me a break and give the poster a break !!He was a slob pure and simple,that doesnt make the woman who cant deal with it an ANAL ****!! You guys are making excuses for the condition of your homes SAD thats just Sad it REFLECTS who u are..Mom didnt do such a hot job if your toilet is black and you dont know the meaning of having a place to sit for coffee in the morning or entertain a LADY when and if you get the chance to...Can u imagine the SHEETS LOL Come on over here babyOMG!!!!!!Hugs jewel | |
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| MEN ARE MESSES! Posted: 1/8/2007 7:22:08 AM | HI IN regards to what Mynameispaul I loved it IM NOT AN AXE Murderer LOVed it!!! talk about generalizing MEN/WOMEN all neat freaks are killers LMAO!!!!Good for u Paul you stopped cleaning up after the .....who choose to live like pigs I also have!!Its freeing isnt it.... jewel | |
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| MEN ARE MESSES! Posted: 1/8/2007 8:47:17 AM | | Any friendship/relationship is a process; you like what you see; great. You like what you hear and how they think; great! Then you start making mental notes, how they live (environment) their true friends; how they behave, family, and job. If you have any red-flags on any of the above; you should sit back and question yourself. Can you tolerate what you dont like or see; or could you change it gradually, with grace that would be worth savouring this so-called relationship! Carry on with your bags if he is a pig! | |
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| MEN ARE MESSES! Posted: 1/8/2007 12:15:10 PM | First of all My place is a mess and I'm not an axe murderer or rapist but might be a cereal killer. I can finish off a box of Cheerios in about 3 days. 
After visiting the homes of several past dates I decided not to clean up or straighten mine before inviting a woman over. I am tired of hearing the I don't know if I could fit into your world line, I thought maybe if my place looked more homey (like theirs) they would be more comfortable.
A while back I dated a woman for 2 years and the only time her house got cleaned was when I did it. I bought her an expensive dishwasher and all she did is complain that it was too loud so never used it. I would come over and run it when she was not there and then she would gripe about me always cleaning her place.
Another lady friend of mine went on a 2 week trip and asked me to house sit and care for her many pets. While there I busted out some cleaning supplies and gave the place a well needed cleaning. Upon her return she paid me for pet sitting (even though I said I would do it as a favor) and then proposed to me. I smiled and declined. 
My place is probably about as messy as it gets these days and I am remodeling, I had my current lady friend from Europe here for 10 days and was relieved that she was not exactly comfortable in the messy place but was cool with it and does look forward to seeing it with interior walls and fewer saws and hammers about. My mother made comment about my messy place and she commented that it was not my place she liked but me. She must not mind it too much as every day she says she can not wait to come back for another longer visit. | |
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| MEN ARE MESSES! Posted: 1/8/2007 12:47:02 PM | Box of Cheerios in 3 days? Amateur!  | |
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| MEN ARE MESSES! Posted: 1/8/2007 4:14:53 PM | | I'm an axe murderer. I once murdered an axe. Swung it so hard, the handle broke. | |
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| MEN ARE MESSES! Posted: 1/8/2007 4:57:16 PM | I am a slob.
I admit that.
If I'm not seeing anyone, who cares? It's just me, and I don't care. The cat doesn't care. We just plain don't care. I know women generally care. However, it takes me months, to a year to get a woman to come over, and in that time, I can make a big mess. When I know a woman is coming over, I don't have time to clean. I have enough time to tidy up, but this project could take a week to get it to a respectable level. I just don't have the time or patience for that. So, she'll have to put up with my crap. And I'll make the effort to make it better for future visits if I have the time.
Beware of the overly clean man who lives alone. There's something not right about him. Maybe he has lots of women over. Maybe he's OCD. Maybe he is actually just tidy.
But why do women care? They should be there for ME, not for my stuff. Unless they're being materialistic and want my stuff.  | |
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| MEN ARE MESSES! Posted: 1/8/2007 6:22:53 PM | Men that are neat freaks are usually crazy stalker control freaks, not always, but the few I knew needed to be locked up, take the messy guys, we rock....
Men that are clean (like me) take responsibility for things.....date the mess and get beat kiddo | |
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| MEN ARE MESSES! Posted: 1/8/2007 7:53:35 PM | | Sounds like my ex and HER way of bringing up the kids! RALPH!!!!!! | |
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| MEN ARE MESSES! Posted: 1/9/2007 10:00:33 AM | | I have visited some "hygenically-challenged" homes of both men and women. If it bothers me to be in that environment, I decide if this is a person I care enough to see again, then simply suggest we meet at my place, or a mutually agreed upon spot. Good people are hard enough to find. If neatness is a major point for you, you owe it to yourself and potential suitors to be clear that it is a deal-breaker before meeting, thus eliminating the situation altogether. I don't think it's fair to generalize such behavior by gender--beware of this practice my friend. Happy fishing. | |
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| MEN ARE MESSES! Posted: 1/9/2007 10:18:35 AM | | I like to think I'm a tidy sort of fellow. I keep a can of paint near my bed and make sure to paint over the wall-boogers before I invite any chicks over. It seems to work. | |
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| MEN ARE MESSES! Posted: 1/9/2007 10:44:26 AM | Being one in the "live and let live" category of women, I look around, I might laugh and shrug and get on with my night. I mean, hell I don't live there - what do I care? If I want to see a clean house I clean the one that I live in. The rest are none of my concern.
If I see roaches or fleas or something - now that concerns me because I might take em home - no thanks, but otherwise who cares. | |
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| MEN ARE MESSES! Posted: 1/9/2007 3:00:07 PM | | I Just had to laugh at some of the postings, ,,the sad thing is ,be it a man or woman the word "hygene" comes to mind in a home, or as a person,,,each reflects on neatness and attention to self respect,self pride,,it they cannot show it towards thier own home,,or self,,,than I certainly would wonder if they feel proud of who they are,,,A home should be neat ,warm ,inviting,,just as the person,,a balance,,, your responce was very cute in an honest way,,, | |
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| MEN ARE MESSES! Posted: 1/9/2007 3:29:47 PM | Soooooo...your title implies that men, in general, are a mess. I think you meant to say "men are messy"...of course, that would be just as stupid. Men, JUST LIKE WOMEN, are not all the same. I had an ex who was, quite possibly, the worst housekeeper on the planet. BUT...I would never take that experience and say all men are like him.
I have a female friend whose system of cleaning her kitchen floor is: "If the dogs don't lick it up, people's socks will get it" (and she wonders why I don't come over much).
I wouldn't generalize and insult all men because you had a negative experience. The only way you would have the right to be upset with your date, is if he asked or told you to clean it up. It's his place and he can do what he likes with it (of course, I don't understand inviting someone over and not even attempting to organize the chaos). | |
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| MEN ARE MESSES! Posted: 1/9/2007 3:37:00 PM | | Date an obsessive neat freak. Then you'll see that Mr. not-so-tidy is not so un-appealing. I'm gonna ignore the axe murderer comment 'cuz it's ridiculous. The place doesn't make the man, best get used to that. | |
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| MEN ARE MESSES! Posted: 1/9/2007 3:49:30 PM | | Well, I must say that I know not all men are messy. When I've gone to a certain guy's place, everything was very tidy and clean. He made sure of that before I showed up. I don't think it would've been that bad to begin with anyway. I'm sure there are some out there that aren't so clean and are very messy but from my experiences, I wouldn't assume all men were. | |
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| MEN ARE MESSES! Posted: 1/9/2007 4:03:05 PM | Don't you realize this is a reflection on who you are and that women judge you by your environment? When I see a guy's place in this condition, I worry that he has a sick mind and is either an ax murderer or a serial rapist.
What is it with you guys? Do you have to live like pigs
IT MAKES MY HEAD EXPLODE.
At Least this Guys afflictions are only on the outside ???  | |
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| MEN ARE MESSES! Posted: 1/9/2007 4:05:37 PM | | No offense but the post strikes me as over-the-top and a dramatic overreaction and overgeneralization. | |
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| MEN ARE MESSES! Posted: 1/9/2007 4:37:52 PM | | Of course it is after all its POF ......and I agree if a guy has a totally immaculate home I get a bit freaked out for some reason...but then again the same goes for a disgusting one...you can have a cluttered home but yet still be clean.....thats kinda the way my home is...comfortable yet clutter city.... | |
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| MEN ARE MESSES! Posted: 1/9/2007 4:48:40 PM | Usually, they are mommy's boys and they ARE looking for YOU to replace her. 75% of my competitors (competitors?) down the drain!!! YAY!
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