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Posted: 5/5/2007 6:40:28 AM | Looking at the subject header, it's fairly obvious that you were going for ALL. So you deserved the backlash you got. And messy = axe-murder/rapist? Utterly insane assumption.
Dirty is a problem, but messy? Clutter? So what.. some folks are busy. Should they hire a maid service? Probably, but it's not that big of a deal. | |
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Posted: 5/5/2007 11:29:21 AM |
dressed nicely and maybe even in expensive designer clothes. So you are thinking to yourself, "This guy seems to have his act together."
Just like you can't judge a book by its cover, I guess you can't judge a man by the label of the clothes he wears. "Oh, look at his clothes!" you exclaim. "He must be my next lover because of the label on his ass."
You went out with someone because of the clothes he wears and because he showers!
Did you ever take a peek at his bedroom? Maybe it was the only clean spot in the house and maybe he was trying to herd you in that direction! | |
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Posted: 5/5/2007 11:36:44 AM | | The problem here is that Comet is placing judgement on men by how they place looks. Have you ever thought maybe you caught the guy on a bad week? If you would have walked into his place two weeks ago maybe it would have been spotless clean? IT was like that in a Marine barracks. The rooms would be perfectly spotless clean better than your house I promise you that but on the weekends guys like to let loose and they would become disaster areas. Yes it's good to be neat but not super neat? See what I mean? Judge someone by their personality not by anything else. :-) | |
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Posted: 5/5/2007 12:01:07 PM | Yes! Hey OP!!! Any chance you could pm me his user name?? This messy dude might be my soul mate!!! ;) lol
I am toooooooooo earthy to like that too tidy thing. My dishes do NOT get done daily, nor do I stress over dust or vacuuming. The one thing I appreciate most about housework is - It always waits.
But then, we aren't all the same .. so .. who is this messy adonis? hmmmmmmm  | |
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Posted: 7/25/2007 4:20:28 PM | Some men are messes, Some woman are messes too.
I love to smell good for my lover.
and in return .... Good hygiene is mandatory! | |
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Posted: 7/25/2007 7:19:21 PM | The conditions that blonde comet describes could and I say COULD be significant signs of chronic depression. Chronic clinical depression is not uncommon among singles - especially those who did not want to become single. In fact depression is very common with the newly single.
Mental Depression is not what many think. Depression is an imbalance of the brain chemical neurotransmitters like Seratonin, Dopamine, Epinephrine and Nor Epinephrine.
This imbalance is usually brought on by an 'emotional insult' - which is a clinical term not a social one. The loss of a loved one via death or divorce is the most common reason. Once the chemical imbalance sets in - the emotional state deteriorates and one does not - just snap out of it based upon the advice of a friend. It takes medical treatment and counseling.
Depression causes a confused state where the person often does not sense or even see the environment around them - strange as that might sound. This state is somewhat similar to an anorexic patient not being able to see that she is skeletal skinny and very unhealthy and perhaps near death.
Blonde Comet's example shows a man who could well have been able to dress well (as he probably did in another life) in order to impress her. He likely was temporarily buoyed buy the presence of a fine woman - reminding him of his past enjoyable life. But obviously he was still so blinded by his depressive state that he could not see that his totally messy home situation and surroundings were very noticeable to others. The man was living in a fantasy - deluding himself into believing that he was living 'normally' - as he probably once did - not even being able to consider that his lifestyle had become toxic.
No one should ever attempt to SAVE such a man or woman. Don't get involved - refer them to a mental health clinic and LEAVE. And Blonde Comet was correct in taking a hike and expressing her shock and disgust.
No one should live in a condition that the fellow she met lived in --- NO EXCUSES. It is often a disease - Mental Depression.
Joe | |
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Posted: 7/25/2007 8:11:38 PM | I have worked on either a part time or occasional basis as a cleaning person since I was in high school and it's not just guys by a long shot. Nor does it have anything to do with upbringing coz I've met some people's folks too.
Half the time that I was hired by women it was because they had a date coming over and they didn't want the guys (girls if lesbian) to think they were pigs. | |
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Posted: 7/25/2007 8:22:46 PM | | FYI OP I've known women who are FAR FAR more sloppy and more filthy than any man I've ever known. If you don't like men stick with women. Then the both of you can p!ss and moan about them til the cows come home. | |
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Posted: 7/25/2007 8:31:46 PM | | I work six days in a row rotating shifts, have my kids on my four days off, am going back to school and try to have a social life, so yes, SOMETIMES there is clutter at my house, but I have been told by women that I do a stellar job with everything on my plate, so no, not ALL men are messes. BUT< since you were so vocal about the few men you have had this experience with and decided to lump all of us into one category, good luck to you. I wonder what other anti male stereo types you have. | |
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Posted: 7/25/2007 8:40:08 PM | I would hate to think that you generalise all men by a few bad experiences.
So I am going to assume that you are just having a rant.
'Nuff said. | |
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Posted: 7/25/2007 8:49:43 PM | | My two brothers are the neat freaks in our family. The four of the five girls...not so much. | |
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Posted: 7/25/2007 8:56:23 PM | Does he have clean sheets? and towels? and a clean coffee cup?...I gotta have my coffee!
... I like pigs.
Dogs look up to us.
Cats look down on us.
Pigs treat us as equals. ...
*Winston Churchill | |
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Posted: 7/25/2007 9:10:33 PM |
Does he have cleans sheets?
Didn't sound like she made it THAT far in his house to find out. Oh well..lol
An unkempt house isn't necessarily an indicator of depression when taken alone.. MY house has it's moments of stacked dishes and mail on the counter tops. Like lookingbill said, he's just a tad bit busy, some things have to give and God forbid, it was the housework! Each has their tastes (sounds familiar?) when it comes to that, and that's fine.. however.. OP, don't judge ME by the actions of others! And, if all you are looking at is what he (or I, or anyone for that matter) wears and how he keeps his house, you are missing the big picture. Did you take the time to get to know who he really is? I doubt it. HE'S better off without you IMO. Being anal-retentive isn't attractive at all | |
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Posted: 7/25/2007 9:16:49 PM | I read an article that stated that even NY Governor Eliott Spitzer has abominable table manners, and that his wife has had to help him soften up the rough edges.
I actually find men's rougher qualities to be endearing. So long as they don't expect me to cleatn up after them.  | |
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| MEN ARE MESSES! So What? Sew buttons on an ice cream cone!
Posted: 7/25/2007 9:53:25 PM | BRAVO 85032luck,
HINT: you can usually tell how clean/tidy someone is by looking in their car...
And I might add, their driving behavior tells "IT'ALL", as well. I personally, perfer to do the driving. I've learned my lessons the difficult way. Road ragers, huge veins protruding in necks (from screaming, yelling, and cursing) are a major turn off for this kid. Take heed to the "Anger Management Candidates" that obviously failed the "must attend" order from a Judge. Gulping food down as if a pig, at the trough, is really disgusing. Now that I think about it, I have never known anyone that perished from this earth from being too presentable. | |
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Posted: 7/25/2007 9:59:50 PM |
HINT: you can usually tell how clean/tidy someone is by looking in their car.
Not really, my van is spotless.. not so for the house. And what if it's a motorcycle instead of a car? Not much room there for clutter. The driving bit I do agree with to a degree.
You want a good indicator of clean/tidy, look at their desk! | |
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Posted: 7/26/2007 5:49:12 AM | | no wonder why u single lol, i aint tidy but am intelligent and educated.as long as the guy showers and is a nice person who gives a fook? | |
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Posted: 7/26/2007 5:55:44 AM | | If being sloppy is reason to be 'sick' or a serial anything.........our world is in a great deal of danger! That's a pretty judgemental statement to make about poor housekeeping. Geez................tell me..............is it hard being perfect? | |
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Posted: 7/26/2007 6:17:15 AM | "All the men I've met have been "whatever bad thing here" so they ALL are" crap.
Don't you people who generalize constantly EVER get tired of coming across so idiotic? | |
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Posted: 7/26/2007 6:18:58 AM | Given enough room pigs are very tidy animals.
I'm trying to thing of that George Carlin bit on "stuff". Just hate to throw out stuff.
I think I'll have to start writing to ladies in Prison, that would give me a workable time frame to clean my mess up | |
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Posted: 7/26/2007 6:29:51 AM |
"All the men I've met have been "whatever bad thing here" so they ALL are" crap.
Don't you people who generalize constantly EVER get tired of coming across so idiotic?
 I agree with you... and wonder why they continue to do it. | |
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Posted: 7/26/2007 6:35:22 AM | Revisiting this Post... Just the Opposite Here!!!!
I had a situation last year where I went to the second date Bar-b-que and the guy's house was immaculate!!! We were standing in the kitchen area an he handed me a glass of wine.. well the glass was too full and a bit sloshed on the immaculate floor... I reached over for the sponge on the sink and before I could bend over to wipe up this spill he had the Swiffer out and and ...Cleaning It up so Hard the dang thing was making a brrr brrrrr brrr sound... I felt like I needed to float across his floors.... and .. well we wenen't into each other.. his uptightness scared me off pronto... but he actually said to me ... we Weren't meant to be because I was too uptight!!!! Rotf... believe it or not he tried to ask me out again two weeks later saying he'd made a mistake... I said No it wasn't a mistake... bye bye....
PS ... his room mate was his house maid... reduced rent if he did housework.. get a wife or a life man!!!! That Corvette was just Window Dressing in My Book!
I guess my bantering about needing plyers to pry that pencil out of his butt didn't help too much..... but his room mate and her girlfriend thought I was a gas!!! | |
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Posted: 7/26/2007 6:35:23 AM | Can I call all generalizers idiots and not get banned if I didn't use names?
Can I? | |
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Posted: 7/26/2007 6:47:55 AM | OOPs his room mate is a guy typo.... .. coffeee need coffeee... Anyway a guys a mess ... hey Girlfriend.. it says one thing... He needs a Girlfriend!!!!!! Duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
Girlflower | |
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Posted: 7/26/2007 7:09:50 AM | | Accept or move on -- it's that easy. | |
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