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Posted: 7/26/2007 7:06:30 PM | Okay, my van is pretty much a pigsty (it has junk from work, and stuff like that in it), but I usually try to keep my apartment REASONABLY clean... but sometimes I get behind (and I DO have a bad habit of flat filing papers). I guess that makes me just an axe murderer in training? LOL
I guess it comes down to priorities...I HATE cleaning, I'd rather do just about anything else. I do it, but don't expect perfection...
There is a saying "My house is clean enough to be healthy but messy enough to be happy" That's what I'm shooting for.  | |
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Posted: 7/27/2007 8:17:43 AM |
How dare you have a bad experience and say men are messes.
You sound like my mother.
she probably is! hehhe | |
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Posted: 7/27/2007 8:39:56 AM | Why the hell dont you make an apointment and clean the "MESS" up, after all he took you to a dinner and movie. The least you can do is do something in return. If the truth were known you probably hire a house cleaner to clean up your own mess.
Just what we nead here, is some old biddy to run men down.
Got to have a after this one | |
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Posted: 7/27/2007 8:53:51 AM |
You are right, the kitchen is more practicle. What happened to the garage or porch for storing things. I worry when a guy is more attached to either his bike, his motorcycle or his pet than attached to me. A former boyfriend washed his Harley almost every day, and I was lucky to get a foot rub once a week.
I bet his Harley didnt whine about his living habits and call him names. No one would have a problem with your post if you had said that you had two experiences in which the men were not tidy up to your standards. Presumably you are complaining about the state of THEIR houses which THEY own and THEY make the payments on so guess what? THEY can live however THEY want and while they might not let their mommys clean up after them, I bet they also dont need YOU to play mommy and lecture them either.
Now please excuse me. The maid is coming in the morning and I need to clean up before she gets here . . . where DID i leave that pitchfork? | |
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Joined: 6/12/2007
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| MEN ARE MESSES!
Posted: 7/27/2007 9:01:46 AM | I guess this is directed towards men who don't clean.
I know a girl who has two kids and there is doggy poop dried on the living room carpet mixed with dried pee. It's so pungent it made my eyes water when she wanted me to stay over for a few days during the winter. If I predicated my impression on women based on how this one person takes care of her kids and home, I would give up too. | |
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Posted: 7/27/2007 9:09:24 AM | Message 134......I hope the hell I NEVER meet you
Get a life woman ,will you!!! | |
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Posted: 7/27/2007 9:13:59 AM | Any woman who would judge me cuz my place is a bit messy can take a long hike and good riddance !
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Posted: 7/27/2007 11:51:59 AM | Every one isn't a mess. My house is vacuumed, dusted, floors cleaned, and the lawn mowed every weekend. Laundry is done as the week progresses usually. You've just been finding "messes" I think. I've done the same thing when walking into womens places. Let me outta here!!!
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Posted: 7/27/2007 12:17:13 PM | Some guys are. I remember being at my friends place, and they had garabage and crap all over. Not to mention the pile of dishes heaping on top of the dishwasher.
I have also seen the same place at some women's house's. Not any of the girls I dated, but some of their siblings, it was pretty bad. | |
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Posted: 7/27/2007 8:18:25 PM | Blonde Comet: Love your post . That is not all you find. You find out too about their financial status, which can make you wonder how they ever got out on their own! And these guys are 35+, not 20!! | |
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Posted: 7/28/2007 9:30:41 AM | The interesting thing is that the know that cleanliness and appearance are important that's why they present themselves nicely on the first date. Somehow they don't make the same connection with their home.
This thread is actually uplifting. I've been renovating my place for a looong time. This put a damper on my dating life since I've been too embarrassed to show it. From the looks of it a lot of women are not expecting too much of a guy. My place certainly looks better that what you were describing :) | |
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Posted: 7/29/2007 10:08:15 AM | | Why generalize like that? I went out with a girl who vacuumed her apt once every 4 months, and she had 2 cats (I would scratch my eyes out of my head from allergies)! I'm not gonna say all women are messes. You can stop by my house any day of the week and its almost spotless. And I have a dog. OK, every few weeks a housecleaner comes in and cleans top to bottom, but I keep it up while she's gone (especially if I'm expecting company). Most women ask if my wife is out of town when they see my place:) | |
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Posted: 7/29/2007 1:28:50 PM | | I'll admit, I can be fairly messy sometimes, I don't let it get out of hand but my place is usually far from being spotless. However, when I have guests over I always make it spotless, especially if it's a date. It's just embarassing to have a mess around when you have guests over. | |
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Posted: 7/29/2007 2:17:09 PM | I just so HATE these "why are men...." posts.
Every guy on the planet is JUST LIKE this one guy?
My recent ex was a controlling biatch. Would it be fair to say "Why are ALL WOMEN such controlling biatches?"
Wife #1 was astoundingly stupid. Would it be fair to say "Why are ALL WOMEN so STUPID???"
And the bottom line, YOU picked the guy to date. What does that say about the level of YOUR gray matter?
Please stop with the gender bashing. | |
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Zeyphr
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Joined: 6/12/2007
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Posted: 7/29/2007 2:25:12 PM | | I so perfectly agree with you East Side. But the problem is that the forum becomes so many pages of text. Most people don't end up being acclimated with the vaious sides of the argument. Especially when you have to wade through numerous texts of drivel. It's a monumentous task and impossible to address all the many perspectives without being the OP and intent on getting an answer. | |
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Posted: 7/29/2007 2:45:43 PM | another gender busting thread, when will it stop, sweet jezussssssss
BlondeComent, ever consider the possibility its the men you are attracting?
Im a single guy and my place is very clean, mind you I also have a cleaner come in every week because I like my place clean.
I know a few women who's place is so nasty, fleas would run.
I dont think Messy places are gender specific
Im not sure how having a messy place equates to being a ax murderer or serial rapist? | |
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Posted: 7/29/2007 3:22:01 PM | | I dont agree with this. Not all the man are like that . I know man who are very neat and their place looks nice and neat and comfortable and I know girls that makes you just running and screaming. But they look ok ....so there are people and people lets not generalize. | |
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Posted: 7/29/2007 5:32:03 PM | I have the idea ...that most men don't care and if you clean up after them...humm...they still won't care..image!
...I do believe that there are men that do care somewhere out there in the sea.....plenty of fish...humm...good luck to both of us and others looking.
Women can be messes too...not talked about as much...and men don't mind as long as they have sex... but we won't talk about that as we are not looking to find a women. Take care...  | |
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Posted: 7/30/2007 1:40:31 AM | | Ok normally i don't respond to something like that but going to anyway, generalization or stereo-typing can work sometimes but other times not so much. all it comes down to is a person putting value on something that someone else doesn't, if someone chooses to live either way, then it's their choice obviously. Though there are the exceptions of course and sometimes it comes right down to taking the extra effort to be organized and tidy, it's just something that takes a lil extra each day but some don't choose to do that, you have to respect their choice. other's it's different scenarios, i dated a woman last yr that wasn't very clean at all at home but she didn't have much time for cleaning as she held down a f/t and p/t job as well as volunteering and a cpl of other things of that nature that showed me she had a great heart so it was a trade off in a sense. if i'd had written her off because her bathroom was dirty then i'd have missed out on a lot of good times and laughs with her but i didn't, she since moved to another city for work but we still call n chat once in awhile and remain friends. | |
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Posted: 7/30/2007 11:52:42 AM | | Isn't a clean house the sign of a sick mind............like Obsessive Compulsive or something? | |
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Posted: 7/30/2007 2:00:51 PM | The place is a total disaster and trash heap. Newspapers, mail and books everywhere, dirty socks and assorted shoes scattered on the floor, every flat surface covered with junk, a mountain bike in the middle of the livingroom, dirty dishes in the sink, clutter and some unidentifiable green fuzzy food all over the kitchen counter tops and table, computer paraphenalia strewn everywhere - no clean surface on which to sit. I won't even get into the condition of the bathroom! Let's just say the health department would cordon it off with yellow tape.
EXCELLENT POST BLONDEie, I am one of those guys who's house is a mess, yes I dress nicely, usually shave, smell good through the afternoon, and on a first date am usually charming, handsome (well that doesnt' change, just depends on who you ask), and a very good kisser, so I get lots of second or third dates, get laid twice, and bam...its over. AND I EVEN RUN AROUND AND CLEAN UP A LITTLE BEFORE THE BABES COME OVER to see my FishTank.
I FEEL SO SORRY FOR THE GUYS HERE WHO TAKE OFFENSE TO BEING CRITICIZED. Guys, its no wonder you/we are single. Get a life. I just lost a girlfriend a week ago, because we always (2x per week) went to sleep at her house. If my house was clean and nice, then she could come over here and I could post on POF after she fell asleep!
Why generalize like that? I went out with a girl who vacuumed her apt once every 4 months, and she had 2 cats (I would scratch my eyes out of my head from allergies)! I'm not gonna say all women are messes . GUYS, STOP ARGUING WITH HER. Gees, she isn't saying all men or even most men are messes. Can't some of you read between the lines? Yeah sure, some women are messy too, START A THREAD ABOUT IT! Men probably outnumber women 3:1 in this, and that includes divorced working moms with 2-3 kids to clean up after.
And heres another one from just this page, at least making a point, but still, how can anyone say a messy house is a good thing? Is that like being born with no legs so you save money on shoes?
Ok normally i don't respond to something like that but going to anyway, generalization or stereo-typing can work sometimes but other times not so much. all it comes down to is a person putting value on something that someone else doesn't, if someone chooses to live either way, then it's their choice obviously WHO DOESNT LIKE A CLEAN HOUSE? I guess guys who dont want girlfriends? What if the guy smelled like shit? Is that a value choice to some and not others? Yes, its a value choice if you like the smell of shit....any takers.
STOP ARGUING ABOUT THIS GUYS! OP is completely correct, as an observation, not a generalization that may or may not include you in particular. | |
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Posted: 7/30/2007 2:12:38 PM | I'm not a confrontational person, but fishbill, you are quite a nasty piece of work.
You come onto a thread that I spent some time and effort posting because I had something to say, and run it down, having a totally unjustified go at me in the process. Now it's been deleted. (So much for free speech, land of the free indeed)
I dont want an argument, but why can't you let people have their say? | |
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Posted: 7/30/2007 2:27:36 PM |
When I see a guy's place in this condition, I worry that he has a sick mind and is either an ax murderer or a serial rapist.
When I see things such as this posted, I wonder . . . how the heck some women manage to meet ONLY dirty, sexist, married, or just plain mean men. This is one of those vast generalizations that member of both sexes overlay members of the opposite sex. Mommies do not have the corner on clean houses, and most of the homes of the men whom I have dated have been clean.
I fail to see a possible connection between a filthy house and either murder or rape. (Can we spell "histrionic"?) If this were so, we could target criminals before they commit their crimes. I can see it now, government money used spent to finance studies on "The Connection of Filthy Houses and the Incident of Murder/Rape." You should be happy that you see the house before you marry the guy. In fact, you should be happy that he didn't tidy up before you came over; this way, at least you didn't get a false impression of his neatness.
On the other hand, I certainly wouldn't continue seeing someone whose house looks like that. | |
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Posted: 7/30/2007 3:08:30 PM | | There is a difference between clutter and filth.... Clutter is ok.. I will admit I won't date a man who lives like a total slob... I would have probably started to clean it up cause I couldn't stand to look at it anymore.. It would depend on the guy.. and if you were really into him.... | |
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