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Posted: 9/2/2007 9:02:43 PM | | I bet you'd be very surprised walking into my house then, at an early age we were taught to help around the house no matter what that was. RESPECT was huge, it sank in that... you can judge the degree of respect that someone has for themselves by the way they look after their lives and everything in it,including people.Forunately there are men that do respect themselves and others, believe me when i tell you how hard that can be for a man to find as well. Gender has little to do with respect based upon *self esteem* keep looking though, we're around just not easy to find. | |
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Posted: 9/25/2007 10:56:45 AM | | they say you can tell of a person by how they live. anyone who takes a great pride in their home, and their appearance says alot about that person. just a matter of some being lazy. if some arent capable of caring for their home or their appearance then it just shows you, they dont care bout themselves. | |
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Posted: 9/25/2007 11:03:22 AM | and do you still wonder why your single? and probably be single for a long time??  | |
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Posted: 9/25/2007 11:37:49 AM | ^^^who you referring to?
if it is for me....being single is by my choice, i have no problem meeting men. i didnt say he should have the best of everything but to take pride in himself, didnt think that was a problem but i can see it might be for some. i took care of everyone before, for to many years and i got tired of it, its all i did, and did they care bout me, in their selfish ways, not one bit. if one cant pick up after themselves then thats not my problem, they can live as they choose too, doesnt mean i have to like it. i dont go to the extreme of saying anything to them, not my concern how they live. i am only out for my life. i take pride in my home, my appearance, my job and etc, shouldnt we all? | |
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Posted: 9/27/2007 8:45:10 AM | Ok, MOST men are sort of like bears with furniture. Art on the wall could be... hmm.. food. LOL. Also, as far as the bathroom is concerned, we are sort of happy if we hit pretty much anything at all (here kitty kitty... ). LOL.
All joking aside, when I invite someone over I do try to clean the place up a bit. However, don't be so judgmental about a guy based on his place. Some people have other things going on in their lives and maybe cleaning twice a week isn't a high priority. Also if they have come out of a relationship where his ex was a clean freak, it might be his way of making that space his own. Human behavior is a strange thing. Keep in mind that men don't "nest" like women do.
Now, if you had walked in and he had a shrine built with your pictures and candles burning and maybe a sacrificed chicken or something.. then yeah.. RUN! LOL. | |
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Posted: 9/27/2007 8:54:06 AM | God, another put down thread...throw those messed up opinions out there...Another thread to whine about the opposite sex...Give me a break...CANT WE ALL JUS GET ALONG...    | |
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Posted: 9/27/2007 9:16:19 AM | Eh, I'm messy. I'd like to think I'm just not bothered by clutter, I don't let things sit around until they smell, and laundry gets done regularly, dishes get done when I need clean dishes so every couple days. Dirty clothes get tossed in or near the laundry basket, junk mail can stack up on the 'dining area' table, and the video game controllers are often found sitting in the middle of the room.
I mean, what's messy to one person might just seem like a comfortable environment to another. But, if I know I have company coming I do go all out to tidy the place up. | |
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Posted: 9/27/2007 10:19:32 AM | I was at a womans home one time. My son was playing with her son and it was time for him to come home so I went to get him. OH MY GAWD. The woman (single) had trash so high in every single room that a path to walk through had to be laid out. She had dogs, and there was doggy poop all over the place. My sons mom eventually turned her in to the health department, and they brought out one of those huge industrial size dumpsters, and completely filled it with the contents of her home. Of course my son has been banned from that home, forever lol! So, it ain't only guys dear.
Jim | |
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Posted: 9/27/2007 10:31:27 AM |
When I see a guy's place in this condition, I worry that he has a sick mind and is either an ax murderer or a serial rapist.
And guys worry that when they see rants like that the woman is a ****. | |
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Posted: 9/27/2007 1:32:32 PM | I posted on this topic earlier, as I said before I generally keep things livable and healthy but not always tidy. BUT today I'm "spring cleaning" like mad...Why? Because a friend that I haven't seen in months is coming tomorrow to spend the weekend  (we're not that way, but sometimes I wish) and I don't want her to think I'm a pig.
The things a guy will do just to try to keep on the good side of a woman, lol.  | |
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Posted: 1/19/2008 4:21:35 AM | | Ok...It has been a long while since anyone posted on this issue...I just want to take time to share my experience....at one time I had in my profile that I was a neat person kept a neat house and expected that from the guy...because as I posted ...if your house is a mess then more than likely you whole life is a mess.....I met this wonderful fish...we talked for a long time email and on the phone....so he bought me a round trip plane ticket to Florida...I needed a vacation .....I felt I knew ALL about him...we shared everything....well ...let me tell you...long story short...when we arrived at his house....it was a dump...garbage and junk everywhere...the only clean room was the guest room (where I slept all alone.....my choice BTW)...I had lived in Fl...before and had friends down there...so I knew if I called them..they would come running...well that is exactly what I did...they put their GPS on and pulled right up to the door...He was a sleep on the couch and I left.....I called him later to let him know I was ok...(just being considerate)...and then let him have it.....I told him I couldn't believe he would invite a lady to come stay in a dump like that....I also told him that he had read my profile and we had talked for months..he knew how I felt about clutter and mess....I am talking messy mess folks....not normal.....I told him there was no way I could stay in such an enviroment......I am not rich...but I take pride in what I do have......and I do understand it goes both ways......so if you are looking for a good man or woman...clean up....show some pride.....be confident.....your surroundings speak loud about yourself.....remember if your house is a mess then more than likely your life is a mess....if this hurts your feelings ...or steps on your toes....then do something about it....and you will feel better about yourself ....Yes...I can look back and get a chuckle out of it now....Be Blessed ....Angel | |
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Posted: 1/19/2008 4:43:57 AM | I'm sorry, but I can't get past the beginning of your post, where you imply, indirectly, that a man in expensive designer clothes = a man with his "act together."
EWWWW. I am so NOT attracted to men who care about clothing. That's women's work. I know someone's gonna slam me for that, but honestly, that would make a man "girlie" to me.
I prefer men in jeans and sweats, who drive trucks. | |
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Posted: 1/19/2008 4:50:41 AM | | When I was growing up we had to clean everything BEFORE the housekeeper showed up so she wouldn't know we were messy...how crazy is that? I wonder if there have been any studies done on the relationship between people who keep their houses spotlessly clean and their success in relationships? | |
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Posted: 1/19/2008 5:04:02 AM | Im not a mess but I can get pretty messy, My truck is worse than my house. I cant relax properly if there is a huge mess around. I actually put a picture of my place in my profile! ( No red flags for dirt there!! ) So you can see im not a pig!!
Oh well too bad about your luck! | |
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Posted: 1/19/2008 5:05:41 AM |
Ok...It has been a long while since anyone posted on this issue...I just want to take time to share my experience....
Considering what follows this line in your “thought” here maybe you too should have just left this alone?
So you blah blah blah on and on about what a mess this guy was etc but the only “crime” here is he wasn’t honest with you. Perhaps he’s slightly insane or didn’t realize you’d come so unhinged by his housekeeping skills---or lack thereof...........
.and then let him have it.....I told him I couldn't believe he would invite a lady to come stay in a dump like that....
Your indignation is noted..................
so if you are looking for a good man or woman...clean up....show some pride.....be confident.....your surroundings speak loud about yourself.....remember if your house is a mess then more than likely your life is a mess....if this hurts your feelings ...or steps on your toes....then do something about it....and you will feel better about yourself ....
Perhaps in your world all this is true but by no means is it true for everyone. This collection of words is much more revealing about you than anyone else so it hopefully will be taken only as your opinion or preference. I’ll bet you dollars to doughnuts the people who keep ultra clean Martha Stewart houses have a lot more problems than a messy person.
From someone who’s supposedly newly devoted themselves to the lord this seems very judgmental and not accepting of other people. WWJD----cry about the lodgings and not embrace the person or people inside it? LOL
This was a thread that was done, finished and over----bringing it back just to relate your little problem just doesn’t make sense.
NEXT!! | |
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Posted: 1/19/2008 5:30:02 AM | I've seen women who live with their parents and their parents keep the place clean.
I've seen full time housewives who have the spare time to keep the place clean.
I've known plenty of working couples where BOTH keep the place clean
BUT
When it's just ONE woman, or ONE man, by themselves I have never seen tidier women than man. | |
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Posted: 1/19/2008 5:32:06 AM | Whoa.....not judging at all.....God blesses us daily.....He expects us to take care of what we have..and what he has blessed us with....Now when I said I let him have it...I agree that was not a very good selection of words....I was very nice to him....but I did get my point across to him....It would have saved me and him both this "MESS" if he had only been honest........God does not judge...but the fruit doesn't fall from the tree........and we can be fruit inspectors...at least that is what HE say's.....
Also this has not been the first forum that has been revisited .......
Now the ones who know me....know you will never meet a more compassionate lady...Be careful when treading on these waters........Angel | |
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Posted: 1/19/2008 6:26:27 AM | JWA, I skipped all the 8 or 9 pages just to reply to you, directly. I don't care how messy my place is or ever will be, BUT people (men and women) should have the respect to tidy up their place of dwelling before anyone comes over, period. I don't care (personally) if friend or future special other was coming over, I'd clean up the house, no excuses.
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Posted: 1/19/2008 6:42:52 AM | i agree- i always tidy up when i expect company no matter what. its just a matter of respect to myself and the other.
mess does not equal slob. a slob is dirty. dirty clothes, dishes, floor, bathroom, meaningless piles of 'stuff' where ever.
mess = piles on every possible flat surface
I am neither.
BUT!
i live in a very small apt. I describe my interests in my profile. my daughter, guitar, music, woodworking, reading and writing, cooking, gardening, ect.
so you walk into my small apartment. If you are suprised to see a crowded but fairly well organized assortment of toys, instruments, music, recording equipment, computer, sheet music, tools, books, cd's, books, housplants, and a small well equpped "busy kitchen, you likely didnt think it through, didnt read carefully, or had unreasonable expectations.
One date who came over for dinner in oct was horrified that it was so 'crowded'. Se also felt i should quit my job to reduce my stress and make more money.
A second i dumped cuz SHE was a slob as defined above.
the next was my current GF who said its what she sort of envisioned but even more eclectic, playful and creative than she imagined. she compared to to 'living on a crowded boat'- an analogy which has stuck with me, especially since i have a little desk top pirate flag on my desk.
In other words, i think i would be more worried about someone who's profile completely contradicts their alleged interests and lifestyle as described than their domicile per se. | |
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Posted: 1/19/2008 6:59:03 AM | Oh my God....... are all men alike... if so all women must be alike.... I own a cleaning service and I can telly athat there are jsut as many dirty women as men and just as many male neat freaks as there are women whoa re neat freaks.
Instead of categorizing these people who are different than you as axe murders or serial rapist, how about getting a little acceptance or tolerance into your life. ANd if you are a neat freak or want a neat freak..... then be happy you found out early that this guy is not a neat freak.
Geezzzzz..... of all the things... axe murder and serial rapist cause he is dirty..... wow.. so if I didn't change my underear for a month would that make me an al quida memeber.
LOL.. what if I told you I didn't wear underwear as I have no clean undioes left. | |
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Posted: 1/19/2008 7:03:42 AM | joro~~~I agree a mess and slob are different...He was a slob...I was expected to shower in the shower where his rather large dogs got their baths....(by the way the tub had not been cleaned in who knows how long)~~~no ~~if your wondering I did not shower after the dogs....not only that this was Oct...his grass had not been cut all summer.....Hey you can hire someone to cut your lawn.....It was undiscribable....In all reality it should have been condemned.....
Back to mess:::If you would have walked in my house this past Tuesday...you would have seen a mess....lol...cause my grandson (who is two) was over and he makes a mess playing with his toys.....NO fret...When he leaves....I pick up and "bam" things are back to "normal"..at least my normal...He had fun and I had fun playing......
I just love life experiences...that is how we grow and learn:::::
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Posted: 1/19/2008 7:14:11 AM | LOL.. what if I told you I didn't wear underwear as I have no clean undioes left.
Tell me you arent wearing undies- My heartbeat accelerates. 
Tell me you have no clean ones left- I lean back from the table and ponder, being at a total loss of words. 
There is a fine line between honesty and stupidy.
just kidding, yadda | |
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Posted: 1/19/2008 7:26:26 AM | | mississaugamalehere....you are a riot! I laughed so hard I dripped lubrication from my coffee cup onto the floor! I'd ask you to clean it up but you're a mess! Now...in answer to the statement MEN ARE MESSES! I have found quite the opposite. I think you just had bad luck. Keep looking or take that guy on as a project...no one's perfect. | |
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Posted: 1/19/2008 7:41:36 AM | LOL, Hey Darlin, welcome to the real world.
Hmmmmmmmm, maybe thats why some of us "TRY" to chose our playmates wisely per birth signs,professions,areas,& most of all by asking questions of our subjects prior to crossing their doorways.
Get over yourself & keep fishing, there are still a few of us rightous gents about who are not slobs or neat freaks.
My home is my castle, but I dam sure dont obsess over fearing white glove inspections from the "Skirt Squad".
OK, now where is my cleanest dirty shirt, I have a date with a potential "Princess" LOL
A well seasoned cancer male with southern charm & a dam good sense of wisdom per the mating & sniff out sessions .
Have fun & dont take yourself so dam serious. Moon | |
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Posted: 1/19/2008 8:39:16 AM |
JWA, I skipped all the 8 or 9 pages just to reply to you, directly. I don't care how messy my place is or ever will be, BUT people (men and women) should have the respect to tidy up their place of dwelling before anyone comes over, period. I don't care (personally) if friend or future special other was coming over, I'd clean up the house, no excuses.
You didn't have to go to all that trouble Anthony but I truly appreciate your enthusiasm anyway! LOL
I agree fully with you in having a tidy place if you're expecting company---it's only polite. Having the crap from our daily lives strewn about could make some people uncomfortable and if they're important enough to us then we'd want them to feel welcome in our homes.
My point wasn't how housekeeping "should" be practiced rather it was about one reply. As can be seen from that follow up the choice of words wasn't accurate to the actual conversation---had that been made clear then chances are I'd not have replied in any way to this thread.
So many of the replies here are nothing more than REACTIONS----that's an important concept I think we all need to keep in mind when posting here. | |
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