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Posted: 1/11/2007 6:07:46 PM | LOL If it worked that way I'd be typing this from a luxury in ground pool in my gorgeous Tara style mansion - which would have airconditioning - surrounded by adoring gorgeous older (but not too much older) men.
And you know tempting me with coffee is just plain mean... you know what coffee means to me | |
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Posted: 1/11/2007 6:18:11 PM | I think I need an even more potted version 'Wulf...lol.
(Awesome poem mate). | |
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Posted: 1/11/2007 7:02:31 PM | You make a fair point, Mandy.
My boss is a white witch most of the time, but when she's in a bad mood she can be a reeeeally black witch!   | |
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Posted: 1/12/2007 7:36:38 AM | Actually, If I wiggle my nose, it stops itching. 
As for messrs Crowley and Friends, I have many books, one or two by him plus his translations of Eliaphas Levi. They make interesting reading, but for me that's all they are. besides I do not have the "Gift" of the Tarot.
An interesting addition to my Libray is one by Idries Shar called "The Secret Lore of Magic." (Abacus 1957). Albeit that it is a collection of many things, including the Almadel of Soloman, Spells and ceremonial magic, it does make interesting reading. In particular that it gives the names and descriptions of many Herbs and Plants, and what they were used for.
Although I must admit that I have not yet tried hanging an onion in a dirty sock, at the end of my bed, as a means of driving out the "Ague", or the common cold. | |
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Posted: 1/12/2007 11:26:14 PM | this thread has now taken a life of it's own... fanastic work guys and thank you all for your contribution, its insightful. I am interested in knowing more about the God/Goddess of Egypt, has anyone got any contributions and how it fits in with Wicca.  | |
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Posted: 1/13/2007 12:41:02 AM | i am a hereditary witch that has been practising for the past 20 years..I also ran a teaching Circle here in Melb for 5 years.It amuses me to see what "others" see the Craft as...but i'm VERY glad to see those who have the knowledge enlightning those that don't. Good work
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Posted: 1/19/2007 6:23:45 PM | | Can someone tell me what a "hereditary" witch is? interested to know. | |
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Posted: 1/19/2007 8:35:07 PM | | its when you are born into a family of witches....they dont believe they are born a witch.... and are brought up learning and practicing the craft traditions that has been passed down from family members thru the generations..... | |
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Posted: 1/20/2007 1:26:24 AM | ''Hereditary'' mens born into. (Like the Royal Family). lol.
Whether they ''believe'' in it or practice are separate. | |
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Posted: 1/20/2007 2:06:08 AM | | I loved the show Bewitched often thought it would be handy to have what she had but thought wrong didnt happen. | |
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Posted: 1/20/2007 1:32:31 PM | | Hey ill just go off in a tangent WITCHES stands for Wonderful Indviduals That Can Handle Exciting Situations lol | |
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Posted: 1/20/2007 6:06:45 PM | | ^^ | |
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Posted: 1/20/2007 10:28:22 PM | Serenex... how creative are you>>> good work..  | |
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Posted: 1/26/2007 5:28:22 AM | This is from another thread here called What is a Witch
First few pages are pretty interesting
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What is a witch
Do you look to fantacy
to find the witches there
riding on a broomstick
black garb and matted hair
eye of newt and other bits
tossed into their pot
Do you think of witches
then think this is the lot
Or wander into Celtic yore
to find a lovely witch
Enchanting and healing
and other things like this
Maiden of the forest
curer of all that ails
Her life is love and light
all that this entails
Do you visit the arcane
with its unusual spells
Creature from another plane
maybe out of hell
Symbols and pentacles
writings on the wall
These are also witches
but they are not all
Look into the shaman
is that witchery
or forever will it stay
bathed in mystery
Herbal trance enlivening
taking you away
into another place in time
where you can go or stay
Bones will be the measure
of witches of another kind
Reality will fade away
illusion is a state of mind
In a distant tribal setting
please do not be weak
You must be very strong
if answers there you seek
Forget all your upbringing
enter witchery with open mind
perhaps then contentment
is truely what you'll find
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Posted: 1/26/2007 1:22:17 PM | There is witchery, it is not a fable.
Witches, bring luck, and food to the table.
I have a magic, thought, and I say "Why not?"
It extends, beyond your wildest thought!
I do not ride a broom, is true...
And my personality, is far from blue.
I lit a candle for you tonite.....
Never to leave my adorable site.
I swept the demons, out of my house,
I cleaned up a bit, but I kept the mouse.
He may come in a little handy....
When once I decide to make that stew , Dandy!
My life is so strangely , mysterious.....
It makes some of my neighbors,,,,,,just furious!
So , let me at my witchery, please....
If you , give me some trouble,,,,,your heart I'll appease.
You will think , that we have been friends forever.....
When at my table,you have sit,,,,,no never....
I am a mysterious, strange, kind of child,
I even can get, alittle crazy and wild.
Before you can judge me,,,take me for real.....
I live my life, with much more zest, much more zeal! | |
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Posted: 7/20/2008 4:57:15 PM | The thing I found funniest about this thread was the term white witch. Honestly only posers use this term. True magic as all real witches know is neither black or white, the only good and evil exists in the heart of the witch. It is like saying there are good guns and bad guns, when in fact the gun is just a tool that is used to do harm or good as is magic.
As for good and evil it is undefinable in absolute terms. What one would deem good another would say it was evil so it all comes down to intent. Wiccans are people to we are moved by greed, lust, friendship, love and by hate. So not all goodness and light like some of you claim to think we are
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White/black is a dualistic principle. Dualism does not exist in a shamanic world. Everything is a shade of grey,some lighter some darker.
To entertain the term black witch:
Once you start practising black stuff you are not a witch, people who distinguish between black or white witches and call themselves one or the other do not understand the term "do what you will but harm no one". If you don't understand this principle you don't understand shamanism. Some who entertain the black white thing may be just beginning to learn whatever it is they are skilled in, others are to me people searching for answers on a spiritual level and seek out in phases various forms of monotheist religions and also traditional trying to comprehend a world full of brainwashing.
It is exactly the same as "feminism", does not exist in a shamanic world, male or female can not exist without the other, I shudder when I hear "witches" speak about what wiccan does for feminism,
In days long gone by a leader or community member who needed guidance, insight, healing or such did not have to turn to a female, nor was it written only those capable of such assistance could be female, they could be whatever.
Unfortunately monotheist religions told us priests had to be male, it lead to no voting rights or right stand for leadership roles, it lead to quite different marriage vows and a perception the male was boss.
Feminism was then born to combat this crap. | |
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Posted: 7/20/2008 8:19:20 PM | I have no problem with Wicca. It seems like as good a religion as any, and better than most. "An it harm none, do as thou wilt" is a good phrase to live by and my credo not as a wicca but as an atheistic libertarian.
That being said I must admit I find much of Wiccan ritual and spiritualism a wee bit juvenile. I'm not a believer in the spiritual or the supernatural, and I while I respect much of their philosophy (peace, tolerance, etc) I simply don't believe the magic works. At all.
Nevertheless... do as thou wilt. :) | |
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Posted: 7/20/2008 8:47:04 PM | I simply don't believe the magic works. At all.
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My judgement here may be wrong but Your post alludes to a form of ignorance about magic.
Its magic when you wake up to your baby crying at night from a bad dream and the moment that they sense you entering the room to check on them they start to settle down because of your presence.
Its magic when your look in her or his eyes after a night out and you know where your going and what your going to do, yet no word is spoken, no request or question is made.
It is magic that a bare ,barren desert springs to life after a rain period and grass and flowers and weeds grow and animals appear from nowhere.
It is magic that despite the intolerance and hatred and distrust and even contempt for asian nations that after the tsunami we gave generously to charities, provided aid and shelter in their time of need.
It is magic when you feed and water and care for a stray cat that has been beaten, bullied, starved and diseased and it eventually becomes your companion, your confidant and puts its trust in you and shows unconditional affection.
It is magic that a couple struggling wit lifestyles ,behaviors, social climate and money can forever be changed and contented after one positive pregnancy test.
It is magic that in 1778 13 wooden ships sailed into these waters to wholly and solely relieve the epidemic prison population in Britain and now me and you sit here at our pc's in the most democratic nation on earth (exchanging free thought and opinion) that has given so much to humanity that humanity may never pay us back..
** now I'm going to go burn a few goat whiskers,a candle, wave my wand around, make passionate love to my Medusa doll all in the hope this spell has made you see the light* | |
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Posted: 7/21/2008 1:06:16 AM |
Its magic when you wake up to your baby crying at night from a bad dream and the moment that they sense you entering the room to check on them they start to settle down because of your presence. no, that would be comforting & reassurance.
Its magic when your look in her or his eyes after a night out and you know where your going and what your going to do, yet no word is spoken, no request or question is made. no, thats a beautiful moment shared by two people.
It is magic that a bare ,barren desert springs to life after a rain period and grass and flowers and weeds grow and animals appear from nowhere. no, thats just nature at work.
It is magic that despite the intolerance and hatred and distrust and even contempt for asian nations that after the tsunami we gave generously to charities, provided aid and shelter in their time of need. no, it was generosity & humanitarianism. Was the tsunami magic too?
It is magic when you feed and water and care for a stray cat that has been beaten, bullied, starved and diseased and it eventually becomes your companion, your confidant and puts its trust in you and shows unconditional affection. I think you are confusing cats with dogs.Anyway I think you're referring to compassion here.
It is magic that a couple struggling wit lifestyles ,behaviors, social climate and money can forever be changed and contented after one positive pregnancy test. That's life...
It is magic that in 1778 13 wooden ships sailed into these waters to wholly and solely relieve the epidemic prison population in Britain and now me and you sit here at our pc's in the most democratic nation on earth (exchanging free thought and opinion) that has given so much to humanity that humanity may never pay us back.. As wondrous as it may seem, no, not magic, just the natural process of our civilizational. Cool isn't it!
Hagars, It's great that some people can appreciate the joys of the world but they shouldn't be construed as something that they are not.
I could easily say it's magic that some people get really blotto & manage to drive home without causing harm or damage, or Creme Brulee ice-cream is magic, but it's not, it's just farking awesome.
Witches, Warlocks Wicca, Voodoo, Black magic, Pyramid power , Rune stones, Crystals, Tarot Cards... the list keeps going but it's all crap perpetuated mostly by brainless nutjobs with nothing better to occupy there tiny minds.
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Posted: 7/21/2008 1:54:10 AM |
Witches, Warlocks Wicca, Voodoo, Black magic, Pyramid power , Rune stones, Crystals, Tarot Cards... the list keeps going but it's all crap perpetuated mostly by brainless nutjobs with nothing better to occupy there tiny minds
Its true that there are games people play in the name of magic that have no actual spiritual element. Or no great awareness.
But its also true that there is a spiritual realm and spiritual element to ourselves and our lives that cannot be discounted. Good and evil do exist. I think people ignore this to their cost. Playing with the dark side is dangerous.
There is a vast amount of colloquial evidence of things seen and unseen that cannot be explained by dry science. Mainstream health professionals are aware of the importance of spiritual health in our overall health and there has been a lot of research done in this area. | |
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Posted: 7/21/2008 2:24:41 AM |
Witches, Warlocks Wicca, Voodoo, Black magic, Pyramid power , Rune stones, Crystals, Tarot Cards... the list keeps going but it's all crap perpetuated mostly by brainless nutjobs with nothing better to occupy there tiny minds.
its interesting you say that.
In this thread http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts10285586.aspx. You speak about karma, in fact you entertain it being a realistic thing yet you state in this thread "it's all crap perpetuated mostly by brainless nutjobs with nothing better to occupy there tiny minds".
Now in this thread http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts10286601.aspx#10287048, you ask two beautiful members of this forum to have some respect, yet in this very thread you seem to have none whatsoever
In Message 78 in this thread http://forums.plentyoffish.com/10151719datingPostpage4.aspx
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I believe there are many here that post, just for the hell of it & really don't give much thought about what they are saying & probably hadn't formed any opinion on the particular subject until they came across it in the forums | |
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Posted: 7/21/2008 3:41:38 AM | when i was in the states, I went to a place called salem near boston...
they burnt many a supposed witch there.. i dont beleive any of the accused could pull a rabbit out their hat.let alone be on the phone to evil spirits but it was enough to have em burnt at the stake.
opinions are can be formed out of nothingness and no less righteous than other opinions.
Tathagata Buddha, the Father Buddha, said "with our thoughts, we make the world"
back to monkey for me...no wonder i am single | |
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Posted: 7/21/2008 3:45:31 AM | I know a few witches........
I have also been called it a few times but I dont think I am really a proper witch.
Though I am going to a bonfire on the weekend.....maybe we could try burning someone at the stake!
Wonder who??? | |
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Posted: 7/21/2008 3:52:22 AM | Hagars, My quip about Karma was hardly entertaining the idea of Karma as a realistic entity. If you hadn't noticed, & it was quite blatant, I was mocking the poster who originally mentioned Karma.
Now in this thread http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts10286601.aspx#10287048, you ask two beautiful members of this forum to have some respect, yet in this very thread you seem to have none whatsoever Firstly, what does that have to do with this topic? Secondly, I stand by what I said, they were being clowns. Clowning about is fine at the right time & place, my opinion that wasn't it.Thirdly, I don't confine my disrespect for idiots to this thread only.
Hagars, what's you point about message 78? I'm hardly an habitual poster like the other two you mentioned who post in just about every single thread on the forums. | |
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Posted: 7/21/2008 5:34:30 AM |
I have also been called it a few times but I dont think I am really a proper witch.
You really need to get that hearing problem checked hon cos that is not what you get called. And I can see you're gonna need to be supervised at the burning...I mean, bonfire!
I think that for many people the word 'witch' has connotations of mystique and intrigue and something a little bit made-for-movies exciting, so it's nice to read some posts here that explain wicca with no smoke and mirrors...and with no newts losing an eye. It's also nice to see an earlier poster acknowledge that witches are still humans with human foibles and not a bunch of saints who effortlessly live the oft-quoted 'harm none' principle. It's certainly a good principle to aspire to though. Interesting old thread.
I loved this earlier quote from Salty (Champrins)
I'm not wikkan. I'm not anything. I'm simply me and dont feel the need for a label. Labels are still needed by those who still need to define themselves by similarities and the accompanying acceptance of peers....or recognition. I emphatically and wholeheartedly agree. | |
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