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| Youth violence in Nova Scotia, Is it out of control
Posted: 10/1/2007 7:04:20 PM | These stats came up once before in a thread. I think it was a thread about how great Nova Scotia was or something like that. There were quite a few "stats" posted.
Everyone was bashing the crime rates from NS and yet the stats from the police sites weren't showing that at all. After all the arguments about it, I only learned one thing. Any stats can be made to show what you want them to. Otherwise, why are they so different? Could it be some aren't as accurate as others, not as complete as others or not even comparing the same kind of data as other stats are? If you lived in any city in this country I'm sure everyone will say the same thing...crime is up (whether it is or not). But, most stats don't show it. Maybe its that Media is up. There is more media then ever. You are bombarded with news every where you go (the cnn crawl on the bottom of the screen, need I say more?). The biggest problem with "news" is that good news makes little splash. Swarmings, muggings, school lockdowns...now there's good news. When all you see is the bad stuff going on, its hard to realize how much good stuff is out there too. Is it really any different from years ago? Or is it just that before if there was a group of girls beating up a girl you just didn't hear about it. I know ten years ago I didn't watch news shows like I do now. | |
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| Youth violence in Nova Scotia, Is it out of control
Posted: 10/1/2007 9:57:08 PM | What's the alternative? To think we live in an Utopian society?? I think not!
The media can, at times, not be objective, but at least it does give us a view of reality!
To be quite honest, I think more good deeds happen than bad ones. Thus the bad ones are news.  | |
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| Youth violence in Nova Scotia, Is it out of control
Posted: 10/3/2007 8:57:22 AM | The original question in this thread topic has to do with how parents of children who have been bullied/victimized have taught their children to deal with the situation.
Here's the original post:
"Do we really need to revamp the young offenders act or are our youth just misunderstood when they stab adults, swam other youth or just distroy property.
Are we really being good to them by not making them accountable for their actions until they are 18 years old. I feel we are just primming them for disaster.
My daughter got swammed by a bunch of girls early in the school year which was broken up before she was physically harme but the leaders of the group later attacked her in a path going to school.
I had to fight with the police, school and justice system just to have them charged. My main concern was to protect her in school and on the street. The system discided to give them restorative justice so they did not get a crimminal record. My daughter no stays at home everyday after school and will not go out of the house unless she is with someone. How is this justice??
Is there anyone out there that has/is been in the same situation?? And what did you do?? "
I think education and awareness are important...so when my son got mugged, I took him back to the scene that night, went over the geography, sight lines, fields of vision and so forth...and walked my son through some simple techniques for being observant of his surroundings, safe areas, potentially unsafe areas, the need to always know a safe way out from where you are, etc...
Likewise, I've had my daughter out at night and shown here when and where to cross the street...for example, you see a lone figure hunched in a dark doorway, you cross the street, staying in a lit area where you can see and be seen, that sort of thing.
In the case of bullying, I think it's important whenever possible to immediately call your bully out, face to face, in front of other people...because bullies are almost always cowards at heart, trading of their intimidation tactics as a way to keep you under their control.
What it comes down to is you can't let people get away with trying to exert power over you, whether it be by putting up with their clucking at you or trying to push you around. Depending on the circumstances, you simply ignore them, move on, or stop and smack them in the chops...but you do not give up your personal power, ever. | |
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| Youth violence in Nova Scotia, Is it out of control
Posted: 10/7/2007 10:14:46 AM |
What it comes down to is you can't let people get away with trying to exert power over you, whether it be by putting up with their clucking at you or trying to push you around. Depending on the circumstances, you simply ignore them, move on, or stop and smack them in the chops...but you do not give up your personal power, ever.
I agree with your statement, and also that the young offenders act has to go. Whatever original good intentions it may have had the YOA is now a tool of criminals that exploit the get ouf of jail free card that kids under age have. Thats why you see these kids being used to carry the drug deliveries, hold guns for the criminals, go out and do the stealing, etc.
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| Youth violence in Nova Scotia, Is it out of control
Posted: 10/7/2007 4:20:18 PM |
Is there anyone out there that has/is been in the same situation?? And what did you do?? "
In the end, unfortunately the most effective thing was switching schools. It felt like the bullies had more rights and emphathy than I had. Until then, I had to worry about going places by myself because I might get jumped.
Once you become a target for this stuff group mentality takes over. They don't want to let you go as a target because they lose some of their power when they do. I've heard from several parents and kids that their lives improved immensely by just switching schools. My parents were reluctant to do this because:
1. They figured I'd have the same problems in a different school. Bullying doesn't work that way. It's not that you are incapable of forming positive bonds with your schoolmates, the bullies do their very best to prevent that from happening.
2. It felt like they were giving in and leaving the problem unsolved. The thing was, it wasn't their problem to solve. You can't solve the psychological issues of a child which is not your own when you have no authority over that child.
How I flourished in a new school when we moved made my parents wish they had of switched schools a long time ago. Some smaller bullying issues go away but when it gets the point your child can't walk alone or has to be picked up from school daily....its gone far beyond the odd bullying incident. They are going through daily physical and mental abuse that can do long term damage. | |
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MST3K
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Joined: 9/24/2007
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| Youth violence in Nova Scotia, Is it out of control
Posted: 10/8/2007 11:27:30 AM | You gotta fight for your right to defend yourself
Actions committed without consequences are the stuff the Youth Criminal Act are made of
Protection from retaliation by order of the Government
Victim of the crime less rights than the aggressor
Justice isn't blind so much as it has blinders on
In it's cross hairs are those who have been wronged
Shot with the riot act read from the Young Offenders Act
Perhaps we need to reword our Law books
No longer should we speak "Tried as an Adult" rather say Verbatim "Tried as a Criminal"
Free from the specifications of the age limitation
Ruled in commonsense
Tim
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| Youth violence in Nova Scotia, Is it out of control
Posted: 10/9/2007 5:49:24 PM | Just want to remind you all about a post I made on April 15/ 07, Halifax has a problem, Violence!
Not to take away from anyone's comments here, but is this post a bit redundant, or is this an evolution of peoples realizations on this situation? | |
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| Youth violence in Nova Scotia, Is it out of control
Posted: 10/10/2007 12:41:20 AM | Well wouldnt that make yours the redundant 1
You should look a little closer, Pa!ge.
My original post was 04/15/07, not 01/07/07.
So to help you out, April 15/07 is 3(three) months before July 01/07, not sure why its posted that way, but go have a look at the rest of the posts', and you'll see what I mean.
You joined the forums when?
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Rain57
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Joined: 9/20/2006
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| Youth violence in Nova Scotia, Is it out of control
Posted: 10/19/2007 11:40:37 AM | | Well, I think its the Young Offenders Act thats the problem. These kids do " horrific " and then get a slap on the wrist. I really think the Young Offenders Act doesn't deter anit-social behaviour in young people> At all. | |
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