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 patti_mk

Joined: 4/19/2007
Msg: 101
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Posted: 4/23/2007 5:11:56 PM
I have not bought a CD in 2 yrs nearly thats why I got my computer to download music. In Canada new CD's are very expensive like anywhere from $25 to $30,and maybe 3 songs tops on it I like so if i can get the single for free, why the heck not???I been doing it for years even with blank tapes taping off the radio years ago, dual cassettes players was great too I could borrow a friends tape and tape it,were just geting more advanced now with technology and the "sharing".
If the download is at a 320 bitrate it is CD quality usually torrents offer this bitrate but I usually lower it to 128 bitrate there is really not that much difference in my ears, Do I feel bad for taking sales away from the artists ? sure, but I dont think they will starve if people download a few of their tunes ,they make ALOT of money through concert sales and merchandise also,and there are still ALOT of fans who can afford to buy the original,and my pocket book is more happy also not forking over too much money for a cd.
There is always a threat of a virus wiping my Drives out on the computer and then having nothing but thats why you burn them to disk as soon as you get them downloaded.Im not selling the music it is for my personal listening and enjoyment. ppl whom do use the stuff they download for fraudulent reasons well then that can post as a problem.I dont agree with that.
If the artist and record companys wanted to use this to their advantage , they should keep track of the networks who allow ppl to download music and instead of going by sales go by the most downloaded ,Maybe if the price of CD's around here was lowerd I'd buy again but its the future, soon CD will be a thing of the past ,it's the age of the ipod and mp3 now , time to make a change.
 OL8333

Joined: 4/9/2007
Msg: 102
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Posted: 4/23/2007 5:43:19 PM
For me CDs are the way to go. There's extra stuff that adds to the listening experience like artwork/photos/lyrics. Also I like to listen to an album like watching a movie, from first track to last track rather than listening to random songs. Supporting the artist is good too. I don't mind downloading music since I will most likely get the album that the song is on, if I like that song. If not... delete.
 Sass_and_Class

Joined: 4/13/2007
Msg: 103
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Posted: 4/24/2007 7:38:31 PM
I almost always purchase CDs, as I like to support rising artists. There is a great amount of passion, dedication, and focus that goes into making excellent music and that alone does not make a successful musical career. Thus, financially supporting musicians through product and ticket sales is vital to all professional musicians.
 MX220

Joined: 3/31/2007
Msg: 104
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Posted: 4/25/2007 4:23:56 PM
I do not own an Ipod so yes I still purchase cd's. I even still use cassette tapes. I don't like bringing my cd's out to my car so I back them up on cassettes and leave them in the car. I also have some old vinyls and a turntable in the closet

How badly have cd sales suffered since the downloading trend began? I think many who download will still buy the cd they like because they'll want the orgional copy. Have cd sales dropped signifigantly since sites like Napster came about?

Remember the old days when you got that new record and couldn't wait to get home and see the pictures on the sleeve? Maybe tape it to the wall of your bedroom?
 bassgirl747

Joined: 9/5/2005
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Posted: 4/26/2007 8:15:37 PM
I just got 3 in the mail today I bought from amazon.

Downloading is OK to get a general idea if you like the song or artist, or a temporary measure til you can get the album. But the quality is often crap! Not to mention the artist is attributed wrong half the time.

I have bought more CD's in the last 10 weeks than I have in the last 10 years. The ones I got today are Alan Jackson, George Strait, and Boston. Three folks I probably never would have even thought of buying 5 years ago. With the possible exception of AJ. I have loved his stuff since he got best newcomer at the CMA's in the early 90's and have wanted to get one of his disks for a while.
 CrystallineSunshine

Joined: 11/3/2006
Msg: 106
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Posted: 4/27/2007 2:47:47 PM
These days I NEED to 'hear before I buy' ... I really do. I'm sorry but CDs are NOT CHEAP, and I like too many kinds of music to just buy everything everyone puts out. I have so many CDS with one good song on them... just collecting dust now.



So ... I listen if I have the option. And if I like what I hear, I purchase a CD or the songs on iTunes. But to be honest, if I love an album, I WILL purchase the actual CD cause I like to have the whole thing... the art, the notes, etc.

 BigSCTVfan

Joined: 1/20/2007
Msg: 107
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Posted: 4/27/2007 6:10:36 PM
I will continue to buy CDs as long as they keep making them. Mp3s are so lame, because they're intangible.
 Mr. Matt

Joined: 4/15/2007
Msg: 108
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Posted: 4/29/2007 9:16:59 AM
I find all my new music by downloading... but I think that a lot of artists that I listen to aren't very well known, and could probably use the extra money of me buying their CD, so if I download it and I actually like it, I'll go out and buy the CD (if I can find it).
 CrystallineSunshine

Joined: 11/3/2006
Msg: 109
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Posted: 4/29/2007 10:07:47 AM
MP3's are 'lame' ??

Oooooooooookay.

I LOVE my iPod. I like it better than CDS. I can load 60 gigs of music on to it, and plug it into the iMotion system I take to the studio with me, and, VOILA!! A whole sound system ... plus 60 gigs of music.

Not to mention the sound is EXCELLENT.

I HATED dragging CDS around. Can you imagine dragging 60 gigs worth around? Haha!! No thanks!!!! :)

 Stargaze71

Joined: 4/26/2007
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Posted: 4/30/2007 10:49:01 AM
I still buy CDs if I think they're *worth* buying - what that means for me is mainly I'm not going to go out and blow $14+ for a CD if there's only one good song on the thing! (which seems to be the case more and more with popular bands).
So, my CD purchases tend to be from smaller, less-known bands.
 Wolf Spirit

Joined: 8/11/2006
Msg: 111
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Posted: 5/1/2007 3:04:21 PM
Hey czechers,just to let you know,that I am a big music collector of countryto hard
rock,all on vinyl records,I have close to 2000and all of them are in good condition.I beleive they sound better.I record what I want onto cassettes,[about 1200,all verieties]then I put them back in a air tight zip lock bag and put them back away.I do buy cds from time to time.I also have some vinyls that are worth a lot of money,32 to be exact.
heres a clip out of song that fits for any music lover who either plays in a band or writes lyrics.
"music obsorbs us with a delicate thought.It is how poetry has indefinite sensations,
to which end,music is an essential since the comprehension of sweet sound is our most indifefinite conseption.
Music, when combined with a pleasurable Idea is poetry
Music without the Idea is simply Music
Without Music or an intriquing idea,music would not be where it is today."
I love my music and I LOVE TO PLAY DRUMS.so without poetry there would be no music.take care music lovers everywhere.enjoy it!
 simply_peachy

Joined: 3/21/2007
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Posted: 5/2/2007 5:01:32 PM
I download songs that I like. For instance, if they're hard to get on cd or I only like one or two songs by the artist, but I'm definitely a cd junkie. I had about 35 when I started University 4 years ago, and I'm up to 250+ in only 4 years....so I'm defintely a junkie. There's just something about having the actual cd, free from faults and with the cd sleeves and what not. Plus, I'm not against supporting the music industry (even if they are pretty much grossly overpaid in most cases.)
 simply_peachy

Joined: 3/21/2007
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Posted: 5/2/2007 5:04:12 PM
I'd also like to add that I'm still using the stone-aged technology of the discman, so having cd's is a good thing for me. I don't feel that I have much use for an ipod, even though my parents have offered to buy me one for many a birthday/Christmas gift; whatever I happen to download I just burn to a cd!
 01011001

Joined: 11/13/2006
Msg: 114
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Posted: 5/2/2007 8:59:23 PM
I'd buy more cds, but stores here don't carry many of the bands I listen to, which include Stormwitch, Within Temptation, After Forever, Epica, and Lullacry. I've had to go online to Amazon to find some of these, but I'd definately prefer shopping at a local store. Nothing like paying for something and listening to it within 10 minutes, rather than the days or weeks for it to come. Regarding legitimate digital downloads, I don't value an mp3 file anywhere near a physical disc.

And don't believe what the RIAA says about P2P downloading. The problem is the RIAA and the method they use to determine record sales. Here's how the RIAA counts their sales. The RIAA counts a sale as a disc that they ship from their warehouse. It is irrellevant if that disc ever gets sold to a consumer. Years ago, before the easy access to music over the internet, shops would order a stock of discs of a new release that would last them say 9-12 months or longer, and not have to worry about reordering a particular release. Nowadays with consumers more informed about music and unwilling to buy a $20 cd for one good song, shops order a 3-6 month stock, and reorder if a release becomes a good seller.

Hence, the shop orders less, and so the RIAA things sales are dropping. They essentially blame consumers being better informed and less likely to spend money on what will basically be crap. The labels under the RIAA need to wake up and start producing music that is quality. Not try to promote a one-hit-wonder, and then complain that sales are dropping.

Also a note, with how little labels pay artists, I wouldn't feel like I was stealing from the artist, as my contribution to their bank account is actually very small.
 discodoobs

Joined: 3/6/2007
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Posted: 5/3/2007 1:22:47 PM
Dude, I own like 1000+ CD's, you ahve got to love the little shiney discs
 starrow

Joined: 4/26/2007
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Posted: 5/4/2007 2:23:18 AM
I've not bought a cassette or CD for a long time.
Because I always liston to music beside a computer and so from a computer.
I even seldom download music for I can enjoy much of them online.
That's the reality in China.
Sadly to you guys:(.
 soundchaser1962

Joined: 5/1/2007
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Posted: 5/8/2007 1:15:49 AM
I can't imagine not buying CDs. I must have the album cover / sleeve notes / graphics / photos. Music has always been an audio AND visual thing for me. Imagine listening to Frank Zappa's music without ever seeing the cover art. It's just wrong.

I would, however, download music I don't love enough to spend high prices for.
 Kitty_Katz

Joined: 9/7/2007
Msg: 118
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Posted: 10/3/2007 11:12:04 AM
Absolutely! I always buy CDs. My collection consists of well over 400 now..and still growing. There are rare occasions when I search for something online that is impossible to find on CD (ie: old 70s or 80s one-hit wonders that are impossible to find anywhere else). I have had friends burn CDs for me from downloaded music, but the quality often sucks. I agree with the rest of the readers though, I enjoy getting the whole package....artwork, lyrics, etc. that you can't get from downloading.
 Mr Unofficially Deleted

Joined: 8/30/2007
Msg: 119
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Posted: 10/10/2007 12:46:13 PM
Yes I still buy CDs, I use my mp3 player a lot but the quality of cds on a 400 watt plus stereo still sounds better to me, its not just that though, I still love CDs for the artwork, information and lyrics etc., that fresh smell that you get when you buy a new one never gets boring to me. Yes I will continue buying new CDs for as long as they are still available to buy.
 Beholder

Joined: 5/23/2007
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Posted: 10/10/2007 3:16:51 PM
I'm definitely still buying CDs also - I do use the iTMS sometimes, usually just to buy the occasional single obscure track - but I really like getting something tangible for my money. I've always been the "download the album first, if it's good then go out and buy it" guy - which I especially like when the disc is hard to come by, and needs to be direct ordered from Japan, or waiting until I take a trip somewhere where I can get a copy, etc.

The problem with CDs however, is that the boxes really suck. It's a standard worked out in the 80s, and it really needs a makeover - the boxes are brittle, too large, and too heavy (packing up boxes of CDs when you're moving is such a pain).

Ideally, I'd love to see CDs just move over to the thinpak-style DVD case (except shortened to the same height the current ones are). The problem with that (other than the fact it'll never happen), is that unlike moving DVDs from the standard size boxes in to the thin ones, you couldn't directly convert your existing collection. (Because of course the front artwork is the booklet, which is thick, and the back panel only works when it sits so the edges meet, etc).

If the industry would switch over to a thin flexible case with a wraparound image and the booklet inside, it would be such an improvement. Of course they're probably more concerned about being able to sell CDs period, without having to increase manufacturing costs by changing something so basic, but... I can dream, right?
 Mr Unofficially Deleted

Joined: 8/30/2007
Msg: 121
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Posted: 10/10/2007 3:37:35 PM
Yes Beholder, I agree about the cases being the downside, the number of times I have bought a CD and then the middle bit where you place the cd is broke into little pieces is very annoying, I just can't be bothered with going to a shop or even worse sending it back for a replacement if I have bought it online just for a CD case so I bye those packs of empty CD cases, usually from a pound shop, another thing I hate about the cases is if I buy it from a shop and it has a price sticker on it which is really difficult to get off without leaving a sticky mark on, this is probably just me though being extremely fussy and a bit obsessive compulsive
 GuelphDude

Joined: 9/28/2004
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Posted: 10/10/2007 3:46:01 PM
I buy CD's at least once a month if not more, I usually buy things that are on sale that I want or if I can get a few for cheaper then they are individually.

Sometimes if I buy or get a CD and there are only a few songs I like, I will just rip them to my computer and then take the discs to The Beat Goes On and get cash for them, heck if I did not pay for them then why should I not have some cash? I have very eclectic tastes in music as well so it's hard for people to find CD's that I like. Sometimes you can get almost the same amount of money back for a CD that you payed for if you sell it at a store.
 GuelphDude

Joined: 9/28/2004
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Posted: 10/10/2007 4:09:14 PM

Also a note, with how little labels pay artists, I wouldn't feel like I was stealing from the artist, as my contribution to their bank account is actually very small.

Yup, thats why a lot of artists are running their own record labels or they start one with other bands so that they can afford to make more money off their CD's plus still market them. One that I know of run by former guitarist for Frank Zappa, Alcatrazz and David Lee Roth is run by Steve Vai, his label is Favoured Nations which has well known artists like Steve Lukather, Dweezil Zappa, Stuart Hamm (bassist for Joe Satriani on many occasions), Andy Timmons, Tommy Emmanuel and Eric Johnson among many others. A lot of those musicians played with Steve Vai at some point as well which makes things even more interesting. At leasts musicians get their stuff out there though and a lot of those guys are not exactly mainstream musicians.
 spring63

Joined: 8/30/2007
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Posted: 10/27/2007 4:51:42 AM
I'm old school. I love Japanese pressed LP's. The quality of the packaging is far superior to anything else. You can't beat the sound quality when played back on great equipment. I also buy Japanese mini-lp compact discs. They are an exact replica of their LP counterparts complete with cardboard sleeves. I don't like music downloads. It's to cold. I like to hold that album or cd in hand, admire the art, read the liner notes, etc.
 CaliforniaGuy79

Joined: 12/24/2005
Msg: 125
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Posted: 10/28/2007 9:24:20 AM
I Buy CDs all the time, I'm just more used to it.
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