| Smoking Teachers
Posted: 4/1/2007 1:33:03 AM | You can smoke your cigs as long as nobody is affected. You can't smoke without affecting others..no matter where you are...news flash people, air travels!! Drivers however should be treated the same as smokers then...don't idle by bus stops or stores, or in front of schools...and then why don't we throw in some shots at the food industry while we're at it...stalking us full of chemicals -have you seen the size of the kids these days? How about, if you don't cover your mouth when you cough or sneeze, you could be fined, or all sick people must use 'the tunnel'.
Yeah, that's it...we want clean air, so let's petition that all the smokers be forced outside! What a fabulous idea :D ...And now to lecture the smokers for being outside where we want to breath - the nerve! Maybe next we can complain about our road conditions all freaking year and have a hairy canary that our taxes are so high, and why is there ALWAYS construction?
From a non-smoker...I agree that children should not see the influence of cigarette smoking teachers. Nobody should have to deal with Tobacco and nicotine period. But bi t ching at smokers isn't going to win any battles. As long as the government is making money off them cigarettes will be available to the smoking public. And since that is the case for now anyway, perhaps we should be more concerned with how these kids are getting cigarettes in the first place. I know that you can't watch them 24-7, but I know it's pretty damn easy to smell when someone's either smoking or has smoked today. I don't think parents should be fully to blame...they should hold their kids responsible since it's sorta their job to teach responsibility. Perhaps a little education, tossed in with some ACTIVE supervision (by all ie: don't bum to minors) ...p.s., when I was a kid, if we got ahold of cigarettes (by bumming or stealing from smoking parents), we'd smoke them at the mall food court (yeah, while back now) - if caught, the security guard would confiscate them and kick us out of the mall...in some states in the US, squad cars will stop teens for id if they see them smoking and they look underage. Unless smoking becomes illegal, leave the smokers alone...contact your government or MP instead. Smokers are where they are because they were kicked out of all the cozy air filtered break rooms and smoking areas indoors. Perhaps instead they should have just made the rooms better and told the non-smokers to enter at their own RISK | |
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| Smoking Teachers
Posted: 10/11/2007 12:43:33 PM | Yeppppp............there are some Hawt teachers here all right!
Wouldn't mind getting detention sometime | |
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| Smoking Teachers
Posted: 6/4/2008 11:22:16 PM | | one of my teachers always smokes in the office It sucks | |
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| Smoking Teachers
Posted: 6/5/2008 7:16:06 AM | First off I am a smoker and my soap box is broken so i'll have to relay this from ground level.
I was not a fan of the far ranging smoking ban at bars..... until recently. I went to grand forks U.S. and they allow smoking in the bars. I walked into one and dam it smelled like a mixture of arm pit, ash tray and stale air....
That made me realize how beneficial it is up here. But how far do we extend public respect at the cost of private liberties ? Smoking in cars with kids will soon be "outlawed"... now I see the argument for disallowing teachers to smoke where there may be a "monkey see - monkey -do " thing going on ....
But won't the kids see them on the sidewalk , off school property ? How is that better ? Can the gov ? or better any employer force a personal lifestyle change ? How far will that go ?
I know we're talking smoking.... smoker / non smoker ... But what would happen if other unhealthy lifestyle examples were thrown into the mix..????
Let's say eating habits / body style .... sexual orientation ? religious beliefs ?
Where is this fuzzy line ?
Is it solid and firm in one area yet flexible and variable in others ?
Where should the government stop ? | |
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| Smoking Teachers
Posted: 6/5/2008 8:14:57 AM | That's the problem...The Gov't doesn't seem to know where to stop. They've gone past so many lines....What's another one?!
My way of thinking is similar to your's edjoecdn. Someone's smoking habit is no different than an eating habit, religious belief or lifestyle. Once we allow someone else to dictate what should be our choice....Well what did people go to war for in the first place?
Sure we can all be given the information, guidelines, and some restraints. But to pretend that you can push the problems out of society by making people do things in the privacy of their own home or it's illegal???? I'm thinking there's a problem.....But maybe that's just me? | |
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| Smoking Teachers
Posted: 6/5/2008 9:33:54 AM |
My way of thinking is similar to your's edjoecdn. Someone's smoking habit is no different than an eating habit, religious belief or lifestyle. Once we allow someone else to dictate what should be our choice....Well what did people go to war for in the first place?
I think the main difference is that bad eating habits MIGHT influence other people if they decide to start eating the same way you do. However, smoking does influence other people in that being nearby it causes health risks.
That's the key in most of these smoking debates. Whether I agree with all the decisions or not, they are all based on the idea that in the same way we wouldn't let people wander the streets poisoning the drinks of everyone they passed, we don't want people smoking in enclosed public spaces.
It is just NOT the same at all as religious belief or lifestyle. They generally don't harm other people. And when they do, THEY become against the law as well. | |
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| Smoking Teachers
Posted: 6/6/2008 6:00:14 AM | This is just an example......
1. There are two children in an enclosed vehicle with one smoking adult.
2. There are two children in a restaurant eating what one adult with poor eating habits ordered for them.
It's not even a matter of monkey see monkey do. It's about lifestyle. | |
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| Smoking Teachers
Posted: 6/6/2008 6:14:43 AM | so since it is such a serious issue i hope the government removes kids from these adults and does not pretend a fine is a falking action...cuz that would equate cash grab. and if your stupid enuff to smoke with kids in a vehicle i hope they confiscate the vehicle like when your caught doing something bad fishin...they take the fish and the truck....cuz fines amount to d-i-c-kchit to change the future...
hehehe..wrong thread...dangit...sorry fish...am distracted this am....my entire basement is getting water and my computer is only 2 feet from the edge of the water...it is distracting me brain...i gotta go
mods please move this post or erase the sucker...thanks so much.cuz i can't delete with the bar...tried to...thanks again... | |
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| Smoking Teachers
Posted: 6/6/2008 10:30:36 AM | This is just an example......
I hope no-one seriously believes there is no difference between these two examples. Second hand smoke is a noxious poisonous substance that an adult is irresponsible to inflict on their (or any) children. By the time my children were three years old they were choosing for themselves what to eat and as a guiding adult I would discourage poor choices. So, yeah for about a year and a half I made choices for them in a restaurant.
Choosing to force second hand smoke on your child for 18 years as a penalty for needing to ride in a car with a smoking adult is immoral at a minimum and should be treated as criminal activity. There I go judging, lol, but when it comes to children's safety I cannot tolerate horse pucky that compares food to smoke! Other than of course when I forget the food on the BBQ and it becomes the same thing.
Such a lifestyle choice as allowing teachers to smoke on school property cannot be allowed to continue. That teachers still have the opportunity to smoke on school property IMO is ridiculous. Some evolved school divisions have made the good decision to remove junk food from the hallway/cafeteria vending machines, too. That teachers still can smoke on the property is an affront to good sense.
By the way get the junk food vending machines out of the teacher lounge too. My daughter tells me they still have one even though the students at her school do not; now that's hypocritical!
Peace, long healthy life, goodwill to all!
E4U | |
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| Smoking Teachers
Posted: 6/6/2008 12:06:11 PM |
Some evolved school divisions have made the good decision to remove junk food from the hallway/cafeteria vending machines, too. That teachers still can smoke on the property is an affront to good sense.
Food vs. smoke??!! lol
E4U, I do see what you're saying. But at the same time not all parents shop at the healthy end of the grocery store. Nor do they take their families to the healthy side of a menu. To say that someone leading their child to a smoke filled car is any different than leading them to the junk food isle.....??? It's a taught habit and the health risks are just as deadly.
If you choose to show your children a healthy lifestyle, then kudos to you!  | |
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| Smoking Teachers
Posted: 6/8/2008 8:29:04 PM | | I just came in here to look for Van Halen lyrics. | |
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| Smoking Teachers
Posted: 6/10/2008 7:31:41 AM | Smoking teachers hmmmm.....
Never tried that yet, I'd think it would be too time-consuming. Boiling is so much easier. | |
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