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Posted: 1/11/2007 8:55:30 PM | I am in complete agreement with you wicked. I do agree with the other posters that in order to experience a soul connection, one truly needs to know and accept themselves. Instinctively I think we all search for that soul connection but life experiences may hinder the results of that search. While we all have experienced pain, hurt and loss that happens in life, walls may be erected around us to protect us and thought processes are changed. When these walls are erected, we are only capable of experiencing a one or two dimensional types of love such as lust/physical or mental/compatibility.
I think all past and present relationships help us to learn about ourselves. We have two choices on how we view these past and present relationships, either we learn and grow from them or stay the same. If we chose to stay the same, we are destined to repeat the same choices over and over until we eventually settle. If we learn and grow from these relationships, we'll eventually stumble across the person where a true soul connection is possible.
I look at all my relationships and they each taught me different things. My first love taught me what it felt like to be romantically in love with another person and be loved in return. My children taught me how to love unconditionally. My ex taught me friendship/compatibility love and other relationships taught me physical love. While some of these past relationship did also teach me pain and hurt, I believe I needed to grow and learn from those to finally get to the point of being open for the true soul connection type of love. | |
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Posted: 1/11/2007 9:09:36 PM | Sorry about the double post but the edit option doesn't seem to be available. After talking to my special someone she made it clear that she didn't not believe in a soul and is open to the idea. with my previous statements i have limited her. No one can really know 100% if we have a soul. We can believe or have faith in it, but it doesn't make it so.
we can have personal experiences that can be explained by having a soul, which strengthen our belief in it. And I believe i am experiencing such things.
*hugs*someone special,
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Posted: 1/11/2007 10:51:02 PM | Hey, all:
Without sounding patronizing I have to say I'm pleased that practically all here have been able to discuss a serious subject on souls and mating without stooping to the trite use of the term...s**lm*tes, Gawd I can't even spell it out. Seeing it gives me hives like nothing else.
Seriously, I do prefer to refer to the phenomenon as a spiritual one, without any hint of religiosity and all that nonsense, but merely two people finding a spiritual connection. This avoids the discussion of whether we have souls. "Spirit" is merely a term meaning "breath", as in "respiration" and "expire", and is therefore less threatening and more accessible to most people.
It is rare but all the more wonderful when it appears. Unfortunately, though, it can change, deteriorate, and disappear, leading us to wonder whether it ever existed. I think it has to be cultivated to last, just as any aspect of health. What complicates things is that both have to cultivate this connection together and pretty much equally.
An interesting topic, with lots of thoughtful comments.
David
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Posted: 1/11/2007 11:42:58 PM |
Seriously, I do prefer to refer to the phenomenon as a spiritual one, without any hint of religiosity and all that nonsense, but merely two people finding a spiritual connection. This avoids the discussion of whether we have souls. "Spirit" is merely a term meaning "breath", as in "respiration" and "expire", and is therefore less threatening and more accessible to most people.
Nicely put. I feel that there is something that is me that is not contained within my physical existence. Whether this is another dimension to the heart or mind or something other, I don't know. I do rather dislike the word "soul" because of the religious connotations and the existing definitions of that term which I don't subscribe to. However, with my loved one there is no way to explain what I have found other than in terms of a spiritual connection and that is something I value deeply, whatever name anyone gives it.
I love him with all my heart: he's touched me so deeply there, yet new depths are reached all the time. If I have a soul, whatever the nature of that may be, it surely knows his and loves him too. I have never known a connection anything like this. | |
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Posted: 1/11/2007 11:58:44 PM | Soul to soul is the only way I know how to relate.
But the dominant reality, well it is different. So used to lies, to takers, expecting to be harmed, so defensive, it would take years to break down the barriers, the rusted amour of the forgotten knights.
It makes for a lot of misunderstandings when one person is just being, and the other is so used to games and stuff that everything gets looked at under a microscope. I can see the thoughts surface “there must be an ulterior motive there, what does she want….”
Just tells me about that persons state of being, but it is sad.
By the time they run you through all the tests, years have gone by, and we’ve given up waiting, and have moved on. Sad really.
I have a few very close friends, soul to soul, for eternity, and many acquaintances. I don’t know how to do small talk. Sometimes I wish I took the blue pill. | |
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Posted: 1/12/2007 6:43:35 AM |
She has given meaning to what i already believed but could of never dreamed just how beautiful this kind of relating would be. *hugs her* 35 days till we are together again...
What an amazingly beautiful, open, and inspiring post "crazytilting" and I so thank you for adding that to this discussion.
It is my belief that you are experiencing what I speak of with your partner whether we look at it in the terminology of a spiritual or soul connection, it appears you have found it.
You truly inspire me with your words, the best of luck to you.
I believe I needed to grow and learn from those to finally get to the point of being open for the true soul connection type of love.
I can agree to this thought for I believe that we need to be at a specific place in our life to be ready to reciprocate this type of connection when it is brought to us, and I do believe wholeheartedly that it is sent to us from a higher power.
Seriously, I do prefer to refer to the phenomenon as a spiritual one, without any hint of religiosity and all that nonsense, but merely two people finding a spiritual connection
One could view this phenomenon as a spiritual one if their faith draws them to this way of thinking and from my standing on this I do believe that our loved ones are sent to us from God.
If one is not of a religious belief than I suppouse that they can relate to it's happening in whatever form they feel comfortable with in dealing or accepting this in their life.
I love him with all my heart: he's touched me so deeply there, yet new depths are reached all the time. If I have a soul, whatever the nature of that may be, it surely knows his and loves him too. I have never known a connection anything like this. Wow now this is what I am trying to get at with this thread, meaning reaching new depths to the connection at all times. Constantly reaching deeper into the spirit/soul to know it, understand it, embrace it, nurture and protect it as you would your own simply. It makes for a lot of misunderstandings when one person is just being, and the other is so used to games and stuff that everything gets looked at under a microscope. I can see the thoughts surface “there must be an ulterior motive there, what does she want….” When a person is at that stage in life where they carry this mentality of questioning/dissecting everything within a forming relationship, I don't believe that they have the capacity to delve deep enough to form a soul connection with another. In my opinion first and foremost one must be ready or at the stage in their life where when approached by a "soul seeking individual" that they are indeed ready for it's union. It can present itself to you in life but if you are not on the same page as the other, than it will only be a surface connection relationship. I do think that when two people are ready for it, that it happens magically, beautifully, without fear, and naturally as it should. I believe I am on the cusp of being in this type of relationship, and it is truly liberating to be able to feel in a place where I can reveal all of the dark/light of my life to this other person. Bare my soul without fear of judgement or ridicule, have the other relish in who my spriit really is and want to know more and more..........but I am ready that I know is key to truly experiencing this connection. Do you ever recall in your life meeting such a person where you know that you could have had this or felt it possible but ran from it because of it's intensity or simply you were not ready??? | |
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Posted: 1/12/2007 6:44:20 AM |
She has given meaning to what i already believed but could of never dreamed just how beautiful this kind of relating would be. *hugs her* 35 days till we are together again...
What an amazingly beautiful, open, and inspiring post "crazytilting" and I so thank you for adding that to this discussion.
It is my belief that you are experiencing what I speak of with your partner whether we look at it in the terminology of a spiritual or soul connection, it appears you have found it.
You truly inspire me with your words, the best of luck to you.
I believe I needed to grow and learn from those to finally get to the point of being open for the true soul connection type of love.
I can agree to this thought for I believe that we need to be at a specific place in our life to be ready to reciprocate this type of connection when it is brought to us, and I do believe wholeheartedly that it is sent to us from a higher power.
Seriously, I do prefer to refer to the phenomenon as a spiritual one, without any hint of religiosity and all that nonsense, but merely two people finding a spiritual connection
One could view this phenomenon as a spiritual one if their faith draws them to this way of thinking and from my standing on this I do believe that our loved ones are sent to us from God.
If one is not of a religious belief than I suppouse that they can relate to it's happening in whatever form they feel comfortable with in dealing or accepting this in their life.
I love him with all my heart: he's touched me so deeply there, yet new depths are reached all the time. If I have a soul, whatever the nature of that may be, it surely knows his and loves him too. I have never known a connection anything like this.
Wow now this is what I am trying to get at with this thread, meaning reaching new depths to the connection at all times. Constantly reaching deeper into the spirit/soul to know it, understand it, embrace it, nurture and protect it as you would your own simply.
It makes for a lot of misunderstandings when one person is just being, and the other is so used to games and stuff that everything gets looked at under a microscope. I can see the thoughts surface “there must be an ulterior motive there, what does she want….”
When a person is at that stage in life where they carry this mentality of questioning/dissecting everything within a forming relationship, I don't believe that they have the capacity to delve deep enough to form a soul connection with another.
In my opinion first and foremost one must be ready or at the stage in their life where when approached by a "soul seeking individual" that they are indeed ready for it's union. It can present itself to you in life but if you are not on the same page as the other, than it will only be a surface connection relationship.
I do think that when two people are ready for it, that it happens magically, beautifully, without fear, and naturally as it should.
I believe I am on the cusp of being in this type of relationship, and it is truly liberating to be able to feel in a place where I can reveal all of the dark/light of my life to this other person. Bare my soul without fear of judgement or ridicule, have the other relish in who my spriit really is and want to know more and more..........but I am ready that I know is key to truly experiencing this connection.
Do you ever recall in your life meeting such a person where you know that you could have had this or felt it possible but ran from it because of it's intensity or simply you were not ready??? | |
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Posted: 1/12/2007 7:25:12 AM | | I have had a soul connection, it was an immediate connect with this woman and even now after a year it is still appearant. This was the only time in my life i have experienced such a feeling and at first, and maybe even now, was not sure as to what it was or why our souls were being connected, but in any event, i am grateful that it has happened, and perhaps one day i will know the answer. With my heart and mind wide open, I am looking forward to the journey and discovery of the connection... | |
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Posted: 1/12/2007 7:25:24 AM | Wicked and Wise, this angel agrees with you totally.
You can love many men in your lifetime, there is also a difference of BEING IN LOVE with someone rather than loving them.
Then if your fortunate you meet YOUR SOUL MATE, the one person that touched the core of you. He is the one that no matter how many times you may try to move on, put him out of your mind or let go YOU JUST CAN'T! Nor should you. Miles apart, in other states it doesn't make a difference your soul has no mileage counter on it. Feelings touch you no mattter where you are or if your even together.
You sense turmoil, happiness, in this person's life and you even know when they are
remembering a tender moment in time they spent with you.
Unfortunately Wicked I don't think any men would agree with us just perhaps women.
They are the stubborn ones who feel they can walk away, begin anew, and fight your mere
being of existance. | |
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Posted: 1/12/2007 8:49:45 AM | Memories Live on Forever Can Never Be Deleted
Memories of what should have been, could have been, all those doors that
were opened filled with passion, hope, anticipation are just a blurry vision.
So many conversations shared, hours of getting to know each other from
the inside out common interests, jokes to make each other laugh, sharing
tender and not so pleasant moments of our past.
Bond forming passion building as if a bubble ready to burst, excitement climaxing
for the long awaited day of our meeting face to face.
Great was the experience of finally coming together to put it all into place.
As great an experience as it should have been -- but the could have been
never came to be as fate stepped in so many times and you simply shut
me out.
Self made man, made of stone that no one could ever change once your mind
is made! I know we could have been something really awesome, that is why
those feelings are embedded in my soul and the secret yearning will never ever part
for you have branded your initials deep within my heart,.
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Posted: 1/12/2007 10:22:06 AM | I thank you for sharing your experience "naughtyangel" , but it saddens me that the true soul connection was not solidified with this individual, which is I suppouse an example of one who was afraid of the intensity of the energy it appears you shared together.
A friend of mine just emailed me a link to a website that speaks very well of this phenomenon/theory and I found its information quite useful, so I share it with anyone who wishes to look into this further.
http://www.crystalinks.com/twinflames.html | |
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Posted: 1/12/2007 10:52:23 AM | I don't believe there was any assertion that the term 'soulmates' has a religious connotation.
<div class="quote">I also think for the most part with the world being a "ME" thinking mentality that many do not take the time or work involved to know another, especially their own partner sadly to this very connecting level of knowing someone.
There is truth in this statement, as well as fallacy.
To open up to someone on a very deep level, you must have emotional and social maturity. Unfortunately, emotional maturity is not something attained at any specific age.
The reasons for emotional maturity are obvious. Not so the reasons for social maturity. In the latter, we recognize innate differences between us and appreciate their importance in individual identity and action. We also recognize that a certain number of compatible values and social ethics and social objectives - partnership and family identity being a type of community interaction that is not 'me' directed - must be present for enduring bonds to form beyond simple (early relationship) infatuation.
This compatibility however, does not ensure that we are soul mates, just that the chance for forming a lasting relationship are better than when we are incompatible at a deeper level of understanding.
I think 'soulmates' as a term, describes a very high level of compatibility *and* flexibility between individuals engaged in a mature, closely bonded, and healthy relationship.
Why? Because each has evolved, in emotional and social maturity, beyond the 'me' stage of personal identity. They have gained the qualities of empathy and compassion for others, and much of their behavior and its logic is 'other directed'. This includes regular practice of benevolent 'good-will'. This is altruism in practice. This quality MUST be present, else you have debilitating expectation of 'recompense' for benevolent actions within a partnership.
These individuals have healthy social networks, spiritual beliefs, social AND physical coping mechanisms for stress, both acute and chronic, and they have compatible short and longterm life objectives. These individuals also recognize the healthy benefits of open ended investment in others, without expectation of reinforcement from others.
Interestingly enough, the brain compensates, and it provides 'feel good' hormone release that conditions pain and habit (patterns of behavior and motivation). The more you engage in this altruist behavior, the stronger the feedback feel good release. This is the stuff of very deep level of bonding.
Soulmates are deeply paired. Their mental outlooks and willingness to be open, honest, and also very respectful and trustful, honoring their bond with their 'soulmate' and earnestly working to invest - to devote a great deal of effort - into partnership success.
Interestingly, in this elastic and enduring capacity, deep and abiding belief in the need or healthy partnership despite the many physical and disruption and emotional upheaval typical in lives, that affords us our 'rock', in our mate.
This dependable stability is the key condition for longevity. In lifespan. In an enduring partnership that spans many phases of our life cycle. | |
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Posted: 1/12/2007 1:01:12 PM | I find it takes a crisis in our lives, as a death, to come to understand that we know people on a superficial level. We as a society share positive comments, when a person leaves their job, our city, ending of relationship, since we view it as safe. When my older brother died over 7 yrs ago, I decided to touch people and make that connection on a level that gives me a warm heart to share with others in my life. I will tell people what they mean to me, compliment them when they do something well and do random acts of kindness, for no reason at all. When we take the time out to share with someone, to get to another level, they're surprised that someone took time to acknowledge them and said something positive.
Finding the time to touch anyone soul is opening the door to ourselves and sharing something with someone you care about. If they reach out to meet you, its a start to get to another deeper level. | |
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Posted: 1/12/2007 3:31:53 PM | I have lived for 48 years, and been married more than once, and yet it was only four months ago that I had the incredible fortune to be connected with my kindred spirit.
Now that I have experienced that kind of connection, I can't imagine doing without it. There is this sense of truly knowing the other person that is difficult to describe.
But there are challenges in being connected with a "soul mate". My partner and I can intuitively sense the other person's thoughts and feelings. There is nowhere to hide. Our relationship is deeper and more intense than any we have previously experienced, which can feel overwhelming at times. It is easier to be in a more superficial relationship.
However, being connected with a kindred spirit is the most powerful and enriching experience possible. I am still stunned that I have been given this gift in my lifetime. | |
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Posted: 1/12/2007 3:40:34 PM | | What a wonderful thing to say you are a wise man. You are probably more in touch with women than most men are | |
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Posted: 1/12/2007 3:54:39 PM |
I believe this is where "kindred spirits" come into play....having the ability to feel what another is feeling..."while they are feeling it"....as more people become emotively healed the ability to have this connection will be more common
Well said and very many well structured feelings here. I am impressed.(Respectfully)
The unconditionalism toward love for thyself as well as others and the ability to forgive and heal is the pathway leading to the relationship with thy soul.
Through these actions/emotions Love flows free like the streams and the souls worth attracts to another as it reciprocates thereby uniting.
If/when we learn to Love unconditionally and heal and open up, the "Ultimate connection" will take place and a kindred spirit can then become our souls mate.
A wonderfully blissful and ecstatically enlightening experience to say the very least.
God Bless
Scott | |
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Posted: 1/12/2007 4:01:41 PM | A beautiful post, Eaglescry.
I wish for you that wonderfully blissful and esctatically enlightened experience.... 
(if you have no objection I'd like to put you on my favourites list...it is so delightful when I encounter similarly spiritual beings in the forums...) | |
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Posted: 1/12/2007 4:16:48 PM | A lot of good posts here..
I have only experienced this once...
I feel this happens between two people when they are totally in love with each other, when you love some body with heart, body, mind and soul.
This can only happen when you let your guard down and not afraid to fall in love,
It is the kind of a love you only experience with the right person, and know matter how hard you try to avoid this love you can not, It's like you are drawn together like a magnet .
I feel this is a love that can only occur between soul mates.
There are many kinds of love but until you experience this ,you have not yet experience real love. You have to be opened to it , not be afraid to let go and let it happen.
If this makes any sense,,,,,,,, | |
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Posted: 1/12/2007 4:27:39 PM |
(if you have no objection I'd like to put you on my favourites list...it is so delightful when I encounter similarly spiritual beings in the forums...)
I would be honoured and flattered, thank you.
Scott | |
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Posted: 1/12/2007 4:27:58 PM | Ok....What's with the double posts these past few days???!!!
Everything I post is showing up twice!! Dang dial-up!!
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Posted: 1/12/2007 4:44:43 PM |
Unfortunately Wicked I don't think any men would agree with us just perhaps women.
They are the stubborn ones who feel they can walk away, begin anew, and fight your mere
being of existance.
sigh........even this thread tainted by men vs women 
ignore me and carry on now  | |
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Posted: 1/12/2007 5:00:10 PM |
Soulmates are deeply paired. Their mental outlooks and willingness to be open, honest, and also very respectful and trustful, honoring their bond with their 'soulmate' and earnestly working to invest - to devote a great deal of effort - into partnership success.
Most excellent post "sombient" and this is absolute truth in my opinion.....time and hard work must be invested to create a successful connection. Hard work in that one must bare I believe their very soul for the other to examine, nurture, and ultimately unite with their own.
Finding the time to touch anyone soul is opening the door to ourselves and sharing something with someone you care about. If they reach out to meet you, its a start to get to another deeper level
Yes, if we have reached a point in our lives where we can reach out to another soul and touch it in any degree, we have truly evolved as a total soul in my opinion.
However, being connected with a kindred spirit is the most powerful and enriching experience possible. I am still stunned that I have been given this gift in my lifetime.
I believe this soul connection or kindred spirits as some may term it truly is a gift , for I believe very few actually feel this in their lifetimes. You are lucky to have found this, cherish it for as long as it remains which I hope is a forever thing.
The unconditionalism toward love for thyself as well as others and the ability to forgive and heal is the pathway leading to the relationship with thy soul.
What a very heartfelt post "eaglescry"......thankyou.
Healing and forgiveness is a very important step is purifying the soul to ultimately have it ready/capable of uniting with another.
sigh........even this thread tainted by men vs women
ignore me and carry on now
Men and women's thoughts and views are most welcomed on this thread, for we all have much to contribute , and it is a pleasure for me and others to view mens views on this type of discussion.
Please feel free to add........ | |
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Posted: 1/12/2007 5:24:49 PM | Before people go trying to find the other half of their lost soul, they should work to find their own. Its not about finding the other half of your soul but getting in tune with your own. I read someone is looking for the other half of their soul, I run. Who wants someone with half a soul ?
not me. | |
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Posted: 1/12/2007 5:34:42 PM | This is about two healthy, whole souls finding each other , uniting, and having the ultimate connection.
At the point of meeting their own soul is complete enough that they have the maturity to share it with another with abandonment. | |
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Posted: 1/12/2007 5:43:25 PM |
At the point of meeting their own soul is complete enough that they have the maturity to share it with another with abandonment.
That gave me goosebumps, Wise One! I have often thought that you are an old soul, my dear friend.
I don't actually believe that two souls must be healthy and whole to unite. There can be tremendous healing when two kindred spirits connect, if they relate to each other with kindness and respect.
It is not so much that two souls become one, but that the connecting of two souls enables each to be so much greater than they could have been on their own. | |
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