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Posted: 1/14/2007 4:10:36 AM | Like a few have mentioned, once that type of bond has been experienced, the road indeed looks long and bleak when starting a new journey. One may brush the shoulder of another along the path. Depending on the depth of the former bond, one will always unconsciously compare all others to it. The hardest obstacle to overcome is that of moving on. For once a bond of such depth and magnitude has been lived in, the idea that another such bond exists seems unattainable. That is of course, until the healing has been complete. It took a great deal of time for my wounds to heal. Some think I have not healed completely, and they are right. For a wound of the heart and soul of that depth can never truly heal. There will always be that scar of remembrance.
If by chance I find another connection with that kind of intensity, I’ll consider myself a very fortunate man. If not, then I will grateful for the one I did have, and cherish it for what it was, a blessing. | |
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Posted: 1/14/2007 4:33:47 AM | i try to understand and feel the chakra energy that they talk about in meditation. however, i rarely meditate, although i do pray or talk to my Higher Power. i'm way too hyperactive and not a person who finds routines easy, but when i do sit and meditate i make up for lost time because i am sincere!
the best i can explain it: as you travel up the body from the three lower chakras (which have to do with rootedness, sensing, power and security) you reach the heart level chakra which you describe as the feeling of love for children and all who surround you. the next one up is communication (the throat chakra) and giving voice to what you believe to be true and just. then the third eye (intuition) and then at the upper crown chakra is the connection to the universal G-d source.
if your intention is to reach higher and you do this in your daily living by coming from the upper chakra spaces and not dwelling on the lower chakras although indeed acknowledging their energy as the "basics" , my guess is that you will attract/communicate with someone of a similar higher energy. the rest will happen, but it is your own spiritual (soulful) journey that must be the direction of your energies. when bad experiences happen, let your energetic reaction feel and acknowledge but let the energy flow upwards and go! this is the process of forgiving or letting go--leaving a means for the attraction of similar energies to attract to you and take care of the rest.
so to put this in a real life example. you get stuck with someone at the sexual (body function solely) and power/security end of things, you don't communicate with each other (and by that i don't just mean talk at each other) and your intuition tells you NO, but you are "stuck" (energy is not flowing upwards) feeling attracted to him or lonely and willing to settle or worried about who will pay the rent. so if this is the case, as an example, you ain't gonna get there girl! same for me! connecting with soul is higher up the body chain. but by the same token, you have to earn your keep by residing in the body, so you have to start at the bottom first and then work the energy up. that's why we are in our bodies...experiencing "limitations" and all of eden's apples! for me, every day is a reminder to myself to by pass them apples and keep myself and my energy at it's highest peak. i find i am getting there more and more each day as i meet people lately with more radiance and i feel sooooooo comfortable in that type of space. not defending myself, not attacking, more joyous and in community with others. i have no doubt when it's time, my next relationship will be powerful. i don't worry anymore and i don't hurry. although sure, i get those lower chakra feelings just like everyone else. just don't rent them space in my heart. that will all be handled when the right one comes along.
ps hope that makes sense. it's hard to put into words because it's more of a feeling or presence or state of being. | |
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Posted: 1/14/2007 5:24:17 AM | Serenity, I understand your post completely. Thank you for sharing that. It describes very well my approach to life and love.
With my last SO, our relationship was based on the lower chakras. My intuition told me no, but hey, the sex was so good! He served a purpose in my life, at that time, but as you say, I just wasn't gonna get there in that relationship.
With my current partner, from the very beginning we connected on a higher level. There is an attraction of similar energies. There is that kindred spirit connection which I always hoped I would find, but which proved to be elusive until this time in my life.
My partner has pondered why we weren't connected 20 years ago, so that we could have married and had children together, rather than in our previous (doomed) partnerships. I believe that our angels knew best. There were life lessons we needed to learn before coming together. If we'd been connected earlier, we would have mucked it up. It is only now that we are ready to be brought together.
I trust that our angels know what they are doing.
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Posted: 1/14/2007 7:04:13 AM | Very interesting...
I believe that the touching of souls happens much more frequently than we are aware of.
It is not just for romantic feelings. I cannot explain it realy.
I am often told that I can "read" through people. Maybe it has to do with my work and my life experiences.
The people who put of blocks for whatever VALID reason are hurting themselves much more than the person who hurt them. We need to grow from the experience rather than put so much "soul energy" trying to protect your soul... (It is my humble belief that by blocking yourself, you stop from evolving and pevent your soul to grow... Perhaps make the same mistake over and over again... ) Do I make sense???
I cannot explain, but some people do cross my path and somehow there is a life experience that we both need to learn or an issue we both need to solve together or a soul that NEEDS to cross path with an other soul to get some level of knowledge or other form of communication... I sound so out there...
Yes, I do agree that when it is romantic, it seems so much more powerful because the human body is programmed to react hormonaly to the feelings of "love"...
I do believe we are connected in so so many ways...
I sound so much like a weirdo... But I live this practically on a day to day basis...
I cannot explain realy... I just know.
I am sure there are others who have this kind of experience. God, I sure hope so!!!
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Posted: 1/14/2007 7:26:03 AM |
I sound so out there......I am sure there are others who have this kind of experience. God, I sure hope so!!!
Annasthasia, I laughed when I read your words, because I can certainly relate. When relating certain beliefs or experiences to people, I often find myself prefacing: "This is going to sound kind of 'out there'..."
I have also experienced people being brought into my life precisely when I need them. This has happened right here on POF. Not only have I been connected with my soul mate, but I have been connected with several women who are kindred spirits. They have been instrumental in guiding me through challenges in this new relationship. One of the women can relate to my partner's trust issues; another can relate to his initial struggles with expressing love. The list goes on.
This happens to me so often in life. I believe that my angels bring me the people and experiences I need as I make this life's journey. Some of those experiences are supportive and positive; others are painful experiences, which are important life lessons as well.
This is why I do not regret previous "failed" relationships: I believe there were important life lessons to be gained from each. The relationships were not meant to last; we were meant to move on, to learn from future relationships.
So, Annasthasia, if you are "out there", well then, so am I! 
p.s. I chose Anastasia as my confirmation name...perhaps we are also kindred spirits? | |
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Posted: 1/14/2007 8:18:54 AM | Glad to see that this thread is going still for it is one that has great meaning to me at this time of my life.
I do believe that our past relationships/experiences ultimately take us to this level or place where we can be truly open to the soul to soul connection. For quite some time I questioned why I had gone through what I had in life which was a lot pain, isolation, fear, spirit dying in a sense, and lack of love from my spouse. These things needed to happen to me is how I see it now, for me to be at the true understanding of myself or my inner being.
At any other time in my growth process, I simply would not have been ready for what I am experiencing at this time, for I know without a doubt my soul could not have opened up as it has with this man.
It is purely something undescribale or comparable to anything else, for it is a simple knowing that this other soul was meant for you to connect with on a level deeper than any other relationship you may have with countless other human beings.
The experiences shared here have touched me and I am glad that others have been able to feel this joy, exhilaration, oneness with another spirit, total abandonment in every form, and yes the deep love that it seems no other would ever be able to give you.
For those that have had and lost this soul connection my heart goes out to you, for I can imagine that it would be something that would set your world spinning and unbalanced for a long period of time. I truly wonder how one would come back from the loss of losing the other perfect soul for them?
So then that would lead me to question, if we are to believe that this soul to soul connection is unique and they are the soul we have been destined to meet and connect with, is it possible to find another????
SS......again you do have a way with words, and I am TRYING to understand them lol!
Danny........may you heal from the loss of your soul to soul connection, sadly her soul was not ready for the union by the sounds of it.
Anastasia......girl you make perfect sense, always feel confident to express your thoughts/feelings.
Gardennut......God bless you and your kindred spirit......I wish you peace and oneness.
Belgarion............may one day you feel that again, if it is possible? | |
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Posted: 1/14/2007 8:47:23 AM | I have had 2 such experiences. In the first, I looked into a lover's eyes and saw my own soul...and it was truly beautiful.
In the second, I looked into the eyes of a lover and saw HIS soul. That was powerful, and awesome, and touched me very deeply.
I agree with Belgarion, and other friends who have experienced this. Once this happens one doesn't ever forget. One may have to move on...as paths diverge, but the connection remains in the heart and can be drawn on as a blessing and assertion of faith that the connection still exists. | |
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Posted: 1/14/2007 8:10:11 PM |
For those that have had and lost this soul connection my heart goes out to you, for I can imagine that it would be something that would set your world spinning and unbalanced for a long period of time.
It sent my life in to a tail-spin.....it was a long and difficult road back to balance....5 yrs long.
I truly wonder how one would come back from the loss of losing the other perfect soul for them?
I wonder that myself...and I sometimes wonder if my soul-to-soul relationship was a "practice" run (so to speak), as to my "readiness" for such a deep connection. I can't imagine that I'll ever again be satisfied with a romantic relationship with less depth. I don't necessarily believe that he was the ONLY man I can have that with......I guess time will tell. | |
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Posted: 1/14/2007 10:19:25 PM | I was talking on the phone to someone special and had to admit.
All the women I had been with in my life, even my ex.
I never felt the conection I feel now.
Maybe it has something to do with starting as friends.
Being able to open up without judgement.
I don't know or care why or how, I am just happy to have found this connection of souls.   | |
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Posted: 1/15/2007 12:24:32 AM | | A soul-to-soul connection...well, I feel finding a soul mate is like coming home. You feel like You've known each other all your life. Yes, I think you can have more than one soul mate. I don't think a soul mate has to be a lover. I don't feel that the "soul" has a gender therefore your soul-to-soul connection or soul mate could be anyone in your life. Friend, coworker, who has an influence in your life one way or another. You will feel more connected with a person, you have attracted them into your life as they are on the same frequency as you or they've come into your life because you want to work out issues from this life or a past life. I think it is all very personal and the thread continues...lots of thoughts.......very insightful messages here!! | |
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Posted: 1/15/2007 12:38:40 AM | Cool post Serenity, hi Gardennut...
Just had to come in and join you remerkable women and men in this topic. It is so hard when you have been used to connecting like this, to remember that there is another world out there, most of it perhaps, who are way too guarded to heart connect. Hell most people are unaware of their own feet, forget their chakra energies.
But there are a lot who are, who want to explore the tantric, the unity possible in full conciousness. There are those who honour body and will as much as mind and spirit.
It is becoming more and more possible each day to make this kind of connection, I believe.
Otherwise, why would we bother to be here, on a dating site? | |
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Posted: 1/15/2007 12:57:54 AM | Hey,
You are right to a degree, remember the soul is eternal, its love that is its point of origin for want of another word, we are love, its only natural to want to connect with another soul, its liks coming home sort of, so difficult to place words of what "is" for most fail to reach expectation. To touch another deeply is certainly the greatest feeling you shall ever experience, to connect physically leaves you wanting more.
Touch me with thy mind and you shall know wisdom, touch me with thy body and you shall know pleasure, but to touch my very soul shall light up the universe with song and shall bring pleasure long forgotten.
The question remains... how do I touch your soul? And in doing so can one ever settle for anything else?
Love pure unrequited love.... no questions nothing but love for everything and everyone.
And yes to love you is required before you can truely love another, for in loving you you find what you are, thats difficult for a lot of people, they put up masks to hide.
The soul is you it's pre you its all you are and ever will be......... And You are Love.
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Posted: 1/15/2007 1:09:21 AM | | Each time we meet a sould mate, we learn something more about who we are. Once we learn who we are fully and completely, and then meet another soul mate who too has reached this stage, we can share in our completeness together. Many people are meant to be... but select few are meant to be for a lifetime. Thats why your first love usually isn't your last. | |
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Posted: 1/15/2007 5:55:51 AM | But oh what it does to the soul to have been touched by another and left suddenly in such wreckless abandon.
The Chakras become dark with the vibrations of slow.
And to ponder this endlessly, to meditate and delve into the Akashic as if leaping empty handed into the void only to find nothingness and the answers bleakly covered in the darkness of the unknown.
Believe me, when two souls touch it can be unfathomable, in more ways than one.
But to be able to percieve, recognize, and cultivate is nothing less than awe-inspiring.
I have always said that the ability to foresee consequences before the action actually takes place is the mark of a profound individual.
My last connection to the soul has brought me to a spiritual crossroads and this thread is by far an immense pool of knowledge and quite appealing.
God Bless
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Posted: 1/15/2007 6:45:32 AM | belgarian...i love yer post on this topic...yer awesome
eagles cry...scott darlin you gotta fishmail me an tell me what some of those words like akashik mean..i think you have studied some on this subject, right?
wicked...great thread, as usual darlin....my eyes arent lettin me read all tha posts on it today...sheesh, its a long thread!, but its definitely somethin i believe in....and i too, believe you are on tha brink of discoverin fer yerself....love you, girlfriend | |
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Posted: 1/15/2007 8:05:17 AM | *******So many amazing people posting on this thread and I thank all of you for coming in and sharing your thoughts, experiences, feelings, and for some such poetic words.*****
I couldn't have asked for more from this thread truly!
One may have to move on...as paths diverge, but the connection remains in the heart and can be drawn on as a blessing and assertion of faith that the connection still exists.
Yes, I most definitely agree that once this type of connection is made, even though the paths of the two may part, it is something that is never forgotten but only drawn upon to enrich and enhance the soul to a deeper place than ever before.
But there are a lot who are, who want to explore the tantric, the unity possible in full conciousness. There are those who honour body and will as much as mind and spirit.
It is becoming more and more possible each day to make this kind of connection, I believe
It is my belief that as time advances more and more of us are becoming connected with our spirituality/souls like never before. The cosmic energy is pulling us towards a deeper understanding of self, and for me personally at this stage of my life it is something I cannot deny nor pull away from. I have felt it for several years and through friends who are deeply into these subjects I have learned to tap into and enhance my own energies which is an experience that I wish many more would open themselves up to readily.
I believe when one opens themselves up to learning how to do this, than yes more and more soul connections will be made.
Touch me with thy mind and you shall know wisdom, touch me with thy body and you shall know pleasure, but to touch my very soul shall light up the universe with song and shall bring pleasure long forgotten.
The question remains... how do I touch your soul? And in doing so can one ever settle for anything else?
Love pure unrequited love.... no questions nothing but love for everything and everyone.
And yes to love you is required before you can truely love another, for in loving you you find what you are, thats difficult for a lot of people, they put up masks to hide.
The soul is you it's pre you its all you are and ever will be......... And You are Love.
What an amazingly beautiful choice of words "Timerider", ones that have left me speechless honestly.
A soul to soul connection is a joining of all aspects of an individual meaning the heart, mind, body, and yes the soul.
Peace to you for your pure heart and soul.
Many people are meant to be... but select few are meant to be for a lifetime. Thats why your first love usually isn't your last.
Well said, many connections are made in our lives, but the soul to soul connection I would think/hope/wish would be one that lasts a lifetime.
Believe me, when two souls touch it can be unfathomable, in more ways than one.
But to be able to percieve, recognize, and cultivate is nothing less than awe-inspiring.
I have concluded without a doubt that I am experiencing this right now in my life and it is something that hits you like a lightning bolt, like how did this happen and where did it come from? This couldn't possibly be happening to me is what I keep saying, but the joy of it is so intense that one could simply not want to cultivate this to all that it could possibly be and more.
Knowing and recognizing is simply part of the pure exhilaration of it also, to know you have found this makes one want to jump for joy, cry, laugh, and shout it from the roof tops!!!!
One way I describe this is "It's something I have been searching for my whole life, and I am so lucky to have found it."
A friend of mine and I have been discussing this privately (SS thank you for making me think!) and he has expanded my perception/views on this subject a great deal. Recently he presented me with his theory on this, and I would like your perspectives on if this is something you agree or disagree with.......please.
It has been speculated that all souls are fractured shards off one main earth-soul. That we're all just facets of the same soul. Some argue that this is in fact a proof of God--that god is the original soul. It is also one of the central concepts around Budhism. That 'your' specific soul can be housed by any organism... that you will be reborn again and again as 'your' soul tries to find it's way back to the 'ultimate mind' (they don't actually say the word soul--they use your mind and various stages of 'mind' in their hierarchy). Which is also similar to Hinduism, but in that religion the human soul is above all others--you will be reborn, but only as a human. You will continue to die and be reborn as a human on your way to learning how to be the best type of human. This is woven into their caste system, where they have lower and higher caste humans, similar, but not the same, as our lower 'working' class, and the 'elite' or 'upper' class.
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Posted: 1/15/2007 11:00:00 AM | ravincause, i think we are on this site to expand the good energy to those we may not otherwise have touched or who may have not touched us. the last man i dated was from another site and did not work out. but i learned a lot.
we each climb a ladder through our own personal dimension. sometimes we fall off, sometimes we cling, sometimes we hold on and see through it's rungs. it's a matter of time and experience to get to the top, maintain balance and see past it's limitations.
have to have a sense of humor about it all. that's my major tool for survival (plus i am sincerely interested in others and what they have to share). i personally also am able to trust that a HIgher Power is there and when we (my man and i both, cause it takes 3) are ready to let go... knowing we have the right tools and are embraced (even when we fall during practice)... that is when it will find us--love, that is. true, intense, joyful, meaningful love. not ownership, not triviality, not being used, not feared or fearful. but trusting and feeling familiar that the place of the relationship is HOME. | |
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Posted: 1/15/2007 11:04:40 AM | | scott, when you are stuck and still licking those wounds, don't you feel that by reaching out sideways, if not emotionally ready or strong enough for climbing those chakras by yourself, that the energy and support of others will assist you in the healing and give you the strength to continue your journey? they say that HP speaks through people. for some it's personal interaction, for others the power of the word via books, forums like this, etc. | |
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Posted: 1/15/2007 1:01:22 PM | The story of Elizabeth Barrett Browning and her soulmate,,Robert Browning......
She wrote this love sonnet for him,,,,
I have always loved it,and thought some on this thread, may as well.
They were true SoulMates,,,both creative,,both in love. One inspired the other,,to write.
She wrote and published this, with his encouragment.
How do I love thee? Let me count the ways,
I love thee to the depth, the breadth, the height
My soul can reach when feeling out of sight
For the ends of being and Ideal Grace.
I love thee to the level of every days
most quiet need,by sun and candlelight.
I love thee freely as men strive for Right;
I love thee purely, as they turn from Praise.
I love thee with the passion put to use,
In my old griefs, and with my childhoods faith.
I love thee with a love I seemed to lose
With my lost saints----I love thee with the breath,
Smiles , tears, of all my life! And if God, choose,
I shall but love thee better after death.
WoW,,,,,,that is the touching of Souls,,,I beleive they find us. It is not something we search or look for. It is not something we can ask for. They find us, in our times of need. They can be lovers,friends,aqquaintences...it is all in the plan.
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Posted: 1/15/2007 1:34:20 PM | What a great thought-provoking post.
I think it is easier when you are young and naive to open up and connect with your partner/soul mate. With my first love/husband (I was 18) I was totally open to him and thought that he understood and connected with me. That marriage only lasted 4 years. My second attempt at marriage again I openend up my heart and thought I had married my best friend...only to find out he was a lyer and cheater and divorced 10 years later.
I think as we get older and wiser it is more difficult to just open up your heart again and again and let someone in. After my second marriage failed I didn't date much for 10 years until I was healed and knew what I wanted.
I think if more of us on here would just take that chance....open up your heart and try just one more time.... to do that we could connect more. But we are all scared and remember the pain of betrayal of a past love so this is so hard for alot of us to do.
I think the young have it easier in this regard...to open up and connect. They also don't have to deal with ex-wives, husbands, children from a previous relationship so in some ways the relationship is less complicated and just about the two people in love.
I try to give every guy I meet and want to date my open heart. I try not to judge him from MY past experiences. It isn't easy, but I think it is the only way to even have a chance of connecting souls with someone. | |
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