| Is sex really sacred?
Posted: 1/16/2007 6:48:13 AM |
Believing that sex is sacred doesn't entail a belief that it's the absolute pinnacle of human experience and that without it, you can never really connect meaningfully and completely with someone you love in a romantic sense. How did you make that leap?
To hear some people talk about,you would think that it is.This is why I said that many "wax poetic" about what sex means to them.They talk of bonding and the highest expression of love.Some on this thread have put it parallel to communion with God.Indeed many of religious persuasion compare the relationship of God to mankind with male/female sexual bonding and to them anything else (casual sex,homosexuality,whatever) is seen as tantamount to blasphemy.Therefore,to rob someone of their ability to experience this in a complete form,physical,mental and spiritual is to rob them of their ability love and live completely.I'm trying to understand this point of view.I don't feel that is that much of a leap.
To me,losing my ability to see would be a spiritual death sentence,since my whole life is based around visual creativity.I realize people hold different values over different aspects of life and I'm attempting to understand that POV.
Personally, I don't think sex *should* be anything, be it sacred, casual, or anything in between. I wouldn't pressume to make those kinds of choices for anyone but myself.
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| Is sex really sacred?
Posted: 1/22/2007 12:26:16 PM | The sexual act between two people is so highly private and personal. How a couple achieves sexual satisfaction is nobody's business. The first thing that has to be stimulated to achieve sexual satisfaction for a couple is intellectual. It's in the mind that true intimacy comes to the forefront.
The way a couple relates to each other and feels for each other is the most important aspect of feeling sexual. It's not watching the porn movie together, or playing with the toys or jumping into bed on a Saturday night at 11:00. It starts with 'feelings'. Lust is one thing, and not a bad thing at all, but true sexual sharing on all levels is explosive!
There's no comparison to having sex with someone you 'like' and someone you share a deep intimacy with. The first satisfies the lust, the second satisfies the soul.  JMHO | |
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| Is sex really sacred?
Posted: 1/22/2007 2:50:13 PM | Is sex really sacred?...
lets do the math lol
History shows us it hasn't been,but history has also shown us great truths in science.Diseases on the increase.All parts of the body should be viewed as sacred,it is when we take the sacredness out of ourselfs we become mislead by false truths which could lead us to a lost path of many diffrent types of sicknesses which mainly stem from the mind and its perceptions.Yes mental sickness.So I guess the real question is...should sex be sacred? | |
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| Is sex really sacred?
Posted: 1/22/2007 3:47:31 PM | sex is a great thing but i wood not be able to have it if i didn't take good care of my self  maintaining my health via proper diet, exercise & meditation  OR MAYBE i wood be able to have it but without keeping myself well balanced WHO knows WHAT it might do to me OR for me 
as far as someone's past is concerned its just mileage to me if they didn't have it MAYBE it woodn't be all that it is | |
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| Is sex really sacred?
Posted: 1/22/2007 5:55:09 PM | | Sex as a biological function of reproduction yes it is.Now as humans we are completely unique in regards to it. First a human penis is completely different in shape, size, and angle from all other mammals including other primates. The most natural way for us to have intercourse is face to face. Our broad, flat chests makes that possible. Doing this face to face is suppose to help create a bond between a man and women. We as humans are more visual than any other creature on earth. Women also climax no other female animal mammal or otherwise does. All male creatures with a penis, reptiles and some birds must climax to release sperm. All other female mammals have a heat cycle a chemical change that releases an egg and allows her to be receptive to the sexual advances of a male.Most female mammals will not tolerate a males sexual behavior unless shes in heat. Human females are receptive every month out of the year and dont need hormonal surge to make her sexually available to a male.This is really strange in the animal kingdom and rather stupid to having offspring at any season even in winter has serious consequences. The piont of all this besides what many people think. We are more than animals. Our sexuality was ment to bond us to each other in a form of intimicy that no other creature can experience. We have a choice really ,like in every behavior we have.You can use it the way it was intended or you can abandon it and behave more like a beast than a man. | |
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| Is sex really sacred?
Posted: 1/22/2007 6:16:33 PM | To spiritually minded people absolutely everything in life is sacred. That sort of answers your question.
Ever look into your lover's eyes during climax and stay present with them? Check out David Deida's Enlightened Sex books for more tips on how take it way beyond the physical. | |
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| Is sex really sacred?
Posted: 1/24/2007 3:26:19 PM | I'm not sure I would call it sacred exactly, but I agree with the poster that said our bodies should be sacred. We only get one in life, and how we treat it is in direct relation to how we'll live within it.
That being said...the longer I remain without a partner, the less sacred sex becomes! LOL
I would still choose said partner wisely though... | |
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| Is sex really sacred?
Posted: 1/24/2007 6:39:30 PM | OP has posted several questions that are interrelated, but they may also be seen as aimed toward different and independent topics. To me, the word 'intimacy' conveys the idea of 'sharing' (deeply it is), a sharing which is both physical and psychological, an unselfish and unrestrained offering of both body and mind. Bliss is supposed to be found in that ultimate intimacy.
The whole issue reminded me of some texts by M. Mirsky, where it is said that "...when eroticism was buried in passionate friendship, no longer it was effective as symbol of the desire to be one with another. Dispossessed of that ceremony, of the weight of ritual behind it, the meaning of communion still awaits definition..."
Given that mind and body are in fact a unity (both are expressions of each other), the point here would be to consider either if that 'ultimate intimacy' is a realistic goal, with or without sex, or if it is something actually unattainable. | |
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| Is sex really scared?
Posted: 1/24/2007 7:52:55 PM | Sacred???
Anyone who thinks so has WAAAAY too much time on their hands.
Sex is what it is, an act, a biological compulsion to reproduce. With a partner who is open and comfortable it can even be a beautiful thing, but don't make it out to be more than it is.
The very word sacred implies that something is so revered as to be unattainable or unreachable. Sad. | |
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| Is sex really sacred?
Posted: 1/24/2007 8:17:15 PM | If you feel that sex is sacred - then it is.
If you feel that sex is a fun pasttime, a hobby or a sport - then it is.
If you feel that sex is dirty, disgusting, an evil necessary for procreation - then it is.
To you. Our realities are self-constructed. | |
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| Is sex really sacred?
Posted: 1/24/2007 11:06:25 PM |
To me,losing my ability to see would be a spiritual death sentence,since my whole life is based around visual creativity.I realize people hold different values over different aspects of life and I'm attempting to understand that POV.
You will never understand why sex is sacred from someone telling you why. You must feel it and experience it to understand. No explanation is needed. In spiritual bliss, there is simply truth. Words become nothing.
Anyway, people lose meaning in their lives all the time. Loved ones die.... life loses some meaning. As we age, the body and mind start to decay, and we slowly die. However, most of us still have the desire to live, although temporarily losing meaning in our lives. Living things are made to adapt well to loss.
When an athlete whos entire life revolves around sport suddenly becomes paralysed, do they commit suicide? Sometimes. But often times they come to an acceptance with their loss and find other things to give life meaning. | |
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| Is sex really sacred?
Posted: 1/24/2007 11:17:18 PM | A relationship CAN be sacred and sex IN a relationship can be sacred but "just" sex doesn't need to be. All it needs to be is good to be magical.
Then again you asked about 15 different, mostly highly subjective, questions and I get confused easily this time of the morning so .... huh?  | |
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| Is sex really sacred?
Posted: 1/25/2007 12:07:51 AM | | It can be made sacred by the two of you. It can also be profane. This is the Pandora's Box, methinks. | |
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| Is sex really sacred?
Posted: 1/25/2007 9:44:06 AM | Oh, it most definately can be. Depends on the people involved. But it's not something that can be explained, only experienced.
Drift off to my happy place.... | |
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| Is sex really sacred?
Posted: 1/25/2007 10:44:52 AM | of course sex is sacred, it has the potential to create life.
personally, i like to make a sacrifice to the Gods daily, multiple times if possible.... | |
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| Is sex really sacred?
Posted: 1/25/2007 4:14:40 PM | If sacred conjures up a place, what better place than between a woman's legs? Hmmm. I cant think of too much more sacred than that. However, as many have indicated on here, in the end whether it's sacred or not simply depends on you.
As an aside. I saw this movie one time whose goal was to show the sacredness of sex. This was achieved by having the hero of the flick always making love in his bedroom and thus he could never be killed. Interesting.
As far as the story of the young man by the OP: I think when we cant or dont have sex our body sublimates or transfers our desires onto something else, making that thing or activity the focus of KUNDALINI ENERGY. Thus we get the traditional stories of athletes not having sex before a fight or throwing oneself into work (gotta do something with that sexual energy which is actually closely aligned to creativity, if you will).
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| Is sex really sacred?
Posted: 1/25/2007 5:02:24 PM | | To me, sex is the most intimate way to show love in a relationship, and I don't think it should be taken lightly, or just given away casually to just anybody. It needs to mean something, have value and be part of a relationship built on a foundation of love, respect and committment, then a very active sex life can be enjoyed and appreciated. And let's face it an active sex life is essential in a relationship and can be a lot of fun when both partners are in for the long haul and have that comfort built in to relax and enjoy each other. Otherwise, it is just an act that really means nothing. | |
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| Is sex really sacred?
Posted: 2/21/2007 11:02:12 AM | I just read a fascinating article in Discover magazine about how scientists are studying the phenomena of the religious experience.One study compared it to the spiritual/emotional experience of sex in some couples and one group of scientists said that it had much to do with which areas of the brain were stimulated.I don't have the article in front of me,but I'll post a few paraphrased bits from it when I get a chance.It was quite enlightening.
Otherwise, it is just an act that really means nothing.
Depends on the person.To some "meaningless" sex can mean quite a bit.We're not all the same. | |
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| Is sex really sacred?
Posted: 2/21/2007 12:15:11 PM | | Religions have always attempted to elevate sex to some higher spiritual plane, to make it their domain, and therefore theirs to control. Sex is as worldly and vulgar as any other bodily function. I don't buy into the mystical bullshit. | |
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| Is sex really sacred?
Posted: 2/21/2007 12:26:51 PM | I can only speak for myself.
Yes. It is.
Again, I reiterate. Sex is of the mind, of the conscience within me...it is not merely of the body. My body makes sure there are more of us to populate this planet. My mind makes sure that I realize why I'm on this planet.
And "SACRED" to me means with exceedingly high regard for something. Viewing it with awe and reverence. To be cherished, protected...enjoyed.
If the mind and body don't connect, there is no sacred sex.
Which many here have. That's why they always need more. It isn't fulfilling to their true essence. | |
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| Is sex really sacred?
Posted: 2/21/2007 12:34:15 PM | sex is something that some people just give away = not sacred
I choose to give my body to someone I care about/love
sacred to me of course :) | |
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| Is sex really sacred?
Posted: 2/21/2007 12:54:41 PM | Yes I agree sex has it's purpose and lots of reasons for happening in this world too but I don't think many people well forego sex because it may not be scared. Myself I believe there are lots of hangups and problems with sex and that everyone of us has sex problems...no one is perfect but it is how you are willing to grow through these experiences/problems that will help you to clear a channel to scared sex/love.
Having said that since being here on pof I have been open to all kinds of people and their profiles and yes I have sent some messages to those seeking intimate encounters....making a comment or two or asking a question!! But because of this there are certain people who I would like to talk to that I cannot. I realize it is their choice to put up what they are looking for or not but I feel it's a filter that doesn't account for the facts!! I feel judged when this happens and I never ever regret talking to anyone or asking anyone a question on here.
I know who I am and what I'm all about and so it's my loss as well as theirs for having it happen. I guess to them because I have messaged "those people" I'm not desirable or less than fit to talk too. I guess I now know how it feels to be segretated or excluded from the group/club. Oh well no regrets...just sadness over simple things and life is way too short for that....moving on..Thanks for listening and blastkissed I cannot message you but I liked reading your profile and your messages too. I suspect that you could probably message me though..lol Gotta Run, Mark!! | |
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| Is sex really sacred?
Posted: 2/21/2007 1:22:00 PM | | There are reaons why religions believe in saving your virginity until marriage. STD's are rampant today, and why? Because people choose to have sex with who they want, whenever they want. I'm not preaching, just merely pointing something out. | |
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