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Posted: 1/21/2007 2:10:23 AM | so she's admitted that her bullyin was racial has she?
Hhhmmm i wonder who told her to say that, maybe max clifford? to get the british public back on her side and for us all to feel sorry for her cuz she was bullied herself?
Nah it aint goona work this time
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Posted: 1/21/2007 2:41:55 AM | Teddy Sherringham has seen the light and dumped racist bint danielle lloyd
"A source close to the West Ham footballer said he felt forced to act or risk undoing years of good work trying to kick racism out of the sport. A third of Teddy’s team-mates are black.
The source said: “No matter how much she says she’s not racist, no one’s ever going to believe her. Teddy’s in an impossible position playing in a mixed race team like West Ham."
Some of his team-mates have been bitterly hurt by her comments and reckon Dani’s gone over the top. Teddy’s completely embarrassed by her behaviour and deeply ashamed of it.” | |
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Posted: 1/21/2007 5:42:56 AM | Ok peeps...I did think that Dannielle was a goodlooking bint but I have changed my mind .She is disgusting in every way possible and far worse than Jade .I even think that motormouth Jade was well and truly set up by Danneille and Jo not to mention C4 and Endomonl.Of course she herself is a bullying racist but these three T I T S give Britain a bad name in so many ways and worse make British women look bad.Thats not fair on the majority of British women.
Anyway....excuse me for lowering the tone but don't the three look awful first thing in the morning? They just lazy around in bed for hours looking a sight .And whats with the farting and Danni ? Its got to be pretty bad because thats all you hear from everybody.She brags that she farted for Teddie before coming into the CBB house.Look...I know we all fart and poo and wee but that bint really has no common and no mystery left now .I noticed when she and Jo went into the WC when Danni said she needed a "poo" that they went in....pulled the chain......walked out without washing their hands.Its them that you don't know where their hands have been and don't even get me started on their vaginal thrush scrapings.Those women are a total disgrace.Make me puke .Last night...Jo was saying that being so drunk as to be in the gutter..."makes me happy" What a laughing stock they made of us.
I have to say that old Cleo looks good in the mornings and Shilpa looks lovely.I loved her tall,slim body when she was dancing.She looked great.I wish she would dance more......hope they would perform some kind of dance task so we could see her dance moves yummy. | |
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Posted: 1/21/2007 6:38:57 AM | well..its nice to see justice being done..out of the 3 tarts..danniella has lost the most..her career was only just begining..now its come to an abrupt end..she has lost her boyfriend.a load of big modeling contracts..and she has lost the respect of most of the people in the uk...a fitting end for a shite stirring bully...she will have plenty of time for farting ..cos she will be on the dole most of her life now..... | |
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Posted: 1/21/2007 7:25:24 AM | | taking the racism issue aside which everyone seems to be focussing on, jade, jo n danielle are nothing more than ignorant bigots who have no tolerance for anyone unless they come from the gutter which is where they all seem to hail from!...as jermaine said...people who are insecure in themselves vent their insecurites to towards other people who are secure and have a strong beliefs in themselves and their backgrounds...regardless of skin colour or culture...i take my hat off to shilpa because she's maintained her dignity n decorum in very difficult circumstances! | |
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Posted: 1/21/2007 9:47:15 AM | MSG 142 "I do not know the exact numbers but the numbers were large enough to take over a land mass the size of Europe and for 200 years at least. The effect of the raj was entirely different and I do not consider it a good or bad thing.Its history and these things happen.It happened that the effect was that the whole of India was under the control of London as in Armed forces,trade,civil service,justice system,transportation,education etc etc."
In 1900, the entire British civil service running India consisted of about 1500 (the entire Empire never had greater than 5000 people running it) in a population of 300,000,000 Indians. They formed a minute percentage of the total, and so could not have affected the culture of ordinary Indians.
In the BB house, 1 in 14 of the housemates is Indian, so there was greater opportunity for her culture to be noticed by the others. | |
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Posted: 1/21/2007 10:23:37 AM | I just read that old Jade's perfume is made in India and that the workers are paid 14p per hour and the thing itself was sold here for £40 . So who was profiteering ? Yes...Jade though I heard the perfume was good . Is it true anyone if Teddy has given farty Danni the push ?
You hear these reports but whats the truth ?
Vin..sorry but you are talking about IMPACT .You check out your facts though I can see what you are saying.I don't agree but thats my opinion.You check out the site of UK statistics ,I quoted before and thats by ethnic group and you will find you are way off base and let me tell you that Britain had a far greater IMPACT on every sphere of life in India and in the East .Like I said...I was born in Singapore and you cannot control such a big place as India unless you had the men to do it and the women that came with the men .And rather than Britain adapting to them....we took over every last thing you can think of and asked them to speak English as well . You can't use their police,armies ,navies and national apparatus with a few men of your own.Get real .We had an entire army out there . I am not getting bogged down with this and that with you but we had a lot out there so our culture was noticed and imposed on every aspect of the machinery of a nation and truthfully....when was the last time that India ordered us to declare war on their enemies as we ordered /asked them to do in 1914 and 1939? Yes its like forget we asked you to come over in the millions to help us fight our wars but bog off now .Who cares if you were e not under threat or that hundreds and thousands of you died .
This 1 Indian girl in 4 is speaking English so the grunting 3 should notice that .She is cooking.cleaning and playing the game.Yes...we noticed her culture okay and we noticed our yobbish chav culture .I know whats p i s s i n g me off.Its having Britain made a idiot of in the world by "cultured" yobbish foulmouth dog rough chavs.
Coming back to British in India.Just look at the amount of famous people born there.Off the top of my head....Merle Oberon ,Cliff Richard,Englebert,Kipling and that woman who wrote Far Pavillians . There were hundreds of schools in the Indian hill stations and across the country for English children only and thats not counting those that were sent back here for schooling . | |
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Posted: 1/21/2007 10:36:42 AM | MSG 160 "Vin..sorry but you are talking about IMPACT ."
Precisely!
1 in 14 of the housemates were Hindu...that's quite an impact the Hindu culture is going to make upon the house.
I didn't mention our army out there, because soldiers have less of an impact living in their barracks. I referred to the civil servants and ex-pats because they did live amongst the Indians, although not with the peasantry, granted.
I don't doubt that Britain and the West influence certain things in the Orient, but we haven't moved there in a ratio of 1 in 14. That is why I mentioned placing one million Brits in New Delhi - that huge ratio would not only cause a culture class for the foreseeable future, but would also lead to resentment among the city's inhabitants.
"when was the last time that India ordered us to declare war on their enemies as we ordered /asked them to do in 1914 and 1939? "
Your comparison is erroneous - India has never been sovereign over Britain.
I'm glad that you noticed the difference in Shilpa's culture and that of three members of the house - this is exactly my original point....whenever two cultures are placed side by side, there is more likely to be friction than harmony.
MSG 162 The Indians are perfectly free to be "influenced" by whomever they choose, but we are discussing here the impact of actually living side by side, not watching someone via the telly or the newspapers.
And disagree with other people's opinions, but don't refer to them as being "balls", OK? | |
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Posted: 1/21/2007 10:39:03 AM |
They formed a minute percentage of the total, and so could not have affected the culture of ordinary Indians.
Balls Vin, Just one person can have an effect on the entire culture of the world. Look at the kind of influence the Queen has worldwide, or the American President. Look how influential Gandi was and he was just one person. The ordinary people always imitate the culture of the rulling classes, so if the ruling class was influenced by British society, then the ordinary people of Inda would have followed suit to some degrea as well.
Jades actions will have had an effect on the Indians cultural perceptions of Britain. It may not be a very large effect, or even a negative effect, but it will have had some effect. | |
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Posted: 1/21/2007 10:53:04 AM | No Vin...I know what your problem is and Britain made a bigger IMPACT on India that you will care to admit because it throws your entire comparison right out the window. India has never been sovereign over Britain but we have over them .Exactly .That means in every last aspect of a nation..we did impose ourselves on THEM. We used every resource they had to OUR advantage .Thats impact. Every apparatus of Indian life was subject to British control and our armed forces were out and about as well as every other type of person.
Whenever two cultures are placed side by side you will have conflict ?
So why did we insist on going over there then? Looking for trouble ?
Strange how they didn't mind helping us out in 1914 and 1939 despite your assertation of "clash of cultures"
More...we didn't think that there would be clash of cultures when we ordered them to help us to fight a European nation. Is Germany of our culture or not?
And if dog rough chavs are your culture...your welcome to them!
The only culture I noticed along with most of Britain was...........filth from the 3 .
I would rather go along with the culture of a nice girl such a Shilpa and yes the rest of the world has looked at us and don't like what they see. Friends from America have been shocked.I have seen news reports from France,Italy and Russia and they talk of our drunken culture and bullying ways.Thanks Jade and co...you are most influential indeed ! | |
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Posted: 1/21/2007 10:54:33 AM | | i think old piggy jade and her 2 mates have done alot more damage to race relations with india than meets the eye..i think they have an awful lot to answer for..but i also think the bb production team should also share the blame..they knew what they were doing when they put goody and her mother into the bb house..if you put 2 foulmouth guttertrash trollopes like the goodys in with a high class woman like shilpa..there is bound to be friction...no matter what country they came from..it was all set up by the bb crowd...and its backfired big time.... | |
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Posted: 1/21/2007 11:16:48 AM | MSG 163 "I know what your problem is and Britain made a bigger IMPACT on India that you will care to admit because it throws your entire comparison right out the window."
Er.....my view on the impact of the British Empire on Indian culture hasn't been stated, so how you are able to gauge it is quite beyond me.
"Every apparatus of Indian life was subject to British control and our armed forces were out and about as well as every other type of person."
And yet, Indian culture has remained the same for millennia - apart from the fact that we gave them a form of government and a railway network, many Indians have hardly noticed us.
"So why did we insist on going over there then? "
"WE" didn't go - it was mainly a trading organisation that expanded.
"Looking for trouble ?"
Our trading interests needed protecting.
Besides, many Indians objected to Britain's presence.
"Strange how they didn't mind helping us out in 1914 and 1939 despite your assertation of "clash of cultures". More...we didn't think that there would be clash of cultures when we ordered them to help us to fight a European nation. Is Germany of our culture or not?"
You are confusing the efforts of the Indian Army with the mass immigration of Indian citizens. The Indian soldiers did not stay here, and did not come into contact with the British to any large degree. You'll also notice that all the action the Indian Army saw during the two World Wars did not occur on our shores.
Beside, ordering the Indians to fight alongside us is hardly an exercise in "bonding the cultures - the Indians were there to defend the Empire, not to introduce their culture, ffs.
"And if dog rough chavs are your culture...your welcome to them!"
At no point have I stated that I considered the chavs to be part of my culture.
"our drunken culture and bullying ways"
You are inferring that everybody in GB behaves like this. You are wrong - the English are generally a well-behaved race, and it is only the mindless majority which gets the attention. Besides, if we AL behaved like Jade etc, then why would people still choose us as a destination of refuge.
You are talking about the acts of three ill-educated women. They were not representative of the nation. You seem to have ignored the other Brits in the house who behaved quite well.
And, finally, you seem to be ignoring my first point - that when two cultures are placed side by side, it is more likely to produce friction than harmony. | |
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Posted: 1/21/2007 11:24:58 AM | | Ah, Racism, the new witchcraft. I've never seen hysteria like it. I suppose when one of the girls gets attacked we might step back. But then again the warped views of some people today they might cheer! | |
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Posted: 1/21/2007 11:33:03 AM | | once again a certain person is trying to turn a simple debate into a massive flame war..what the feck has the bullying of a woman in the big brother house got to do with the british raj and british imperial empire and all that shite...nothing..we are talking about a woman being bullied by 3 jealous tarts..thats all...not the history of the british empire...you should start a different thread if you want to give everyone a history lesson.... | |
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Posted: 1/21/2007 11:42:51 AM | MSG 167 "once again a certain person is trying to turn a simple debate into a massive flame war.."
If you have seen any instances of "flaming", feel free to report them....I've only seen one person refer to another's opinion as "balls", so that might be a starting point for you.
"what the feck has the bullying of a woman in the big brother house got to do with the british raj and british imperial empire and all that shite"
I raised the question of the two cultures not getting along about three pages ago....another poster chose to comment upon the Raj being a similar type of thing. She was perfectly correct to raise that into the debate.
True, others have mentioned what the Raj did, and you are free to object to their doing so, but the clash of cultures is relevant to the discussion invited by the OP.
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Posted: 1/22/2007 12:28:19 AM | | im afraid england has come a long way since ww2..and all for the wrong reasons..we now have the worst yob culture and mentality in the world..we have lost our identity.self respect...everything..its all gone..and sadly it has all been reflected in the big brother house..them 3 trollope tarts have brought to light what our once great country has come to....a chaotic mess of hate and confusion..were the rich get richer and the poor are getting poorer..were crime is out of control..racial tension everywere you look..chavs.druggies.lager louts.football hooligans.gangsters..and a goverment and police force that cannot control them or protect its citizens against them..and to top it all off..we go and make celebrity out of a half witted.ugly. jealous bullying. racist foulmouthed pig like jade goody..and to think young people actualy look upon to her as ispiration...its a no wonder the country has come to this.... | |
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Posted: 1/22/2007 4:44:33 AM | Apparently:
Big Brother lost it's sponsorship from Carphone Warehouse.
Endemol have given all the profit from Friday's eviction vote to charity.
Channel 4 are being seen to do the right thing.
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Posted: 1/22/2007 7:33:25 AM | Well you know what...according to Vin , BB is clash of cultures is it ? How odd that is.Since when has Jade Goodie and co. been typical of Britain ? If she is- like I say ..your welcome to her because that is not what Britain means to me .
Now since some posters have brought this up including G.goddess and since I am warming to the subject, let me point out that India did not need protecting and poor old Britain ran off to help! Far from it .Its the other way round.( Germany posed no danger to India) Of course we used India to strike out at Japan .We used it....nearer to Japan see.........?
Check out this site to refresh our memory of a history we choose to forget;
www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/standateast/shtml
India provided us with 2.5 million men in the form of the British Indian Army in WW2
11 battalions of Sikhs alone
It was officered by 35,000 Brits and 15,000 Indians .
They fought in France,Italy,N.Africa,Greece,Malaysia and Burma etc.
They suffered 179,000 casualities .
India gave £50 million in taxes to Britain for each year of the war years.
The surrender of Gen Von Arnim was taken by the 4th Indian Div in Tunisia
The Japanese surrender in Veitnam was taken by the another Indian Div in Sept 45 .
Now check out this site :
www.statistics.gov.uk.cci/nugget.asp?id=455
Work your own way round the site but it tells you that the UK is 92.1% white
thats 54 million .UK total population is 60 million.
Asians are 4.0 of which 1.8 are Indians
3.2% are black and mixed race
Now...I didn't know this till recently but 28% of the UK economy is Indian generated/owned/invested and that by 2050 India will have a faster economy than the USA on current trends ....so could well be that we need to move over there at some point.
I don't think that C4 was trying to be socially aware.They are in it for the money.Nothing else but personally for me and friends I know its kind of generated some self assesment in what we are and where we are going. Jade and dog rough women like her do not appeal to me and I don't want them to represent Britain .Its not a clash of cultures because this same culture has stood with Britain in the fight against a European culture-Germany . Its British yob culture thats in the dock here and nobody else is to blame except us for glorifying it.
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Posted: 1/22/2007 9:39:08 AM | 'Now since some posters have brought this up including G.goddess and since I am warming to the subject, let me point out that India did not need protecting and poor old Britain ran off to help! Far from it .Its the other way round.( Germany posed no danger to India) Of course we used India to strike out at Japan .We used it....nearer to Japan see.........?'
What a load of crap!
We didn't 'strike' at Japan, it was Japan who were doing the striking at every country surrounding them.
Japan had set its eyes right on India. Do you think the Japanese would have treated the Indians better than the British? Experiance of the expanding Japanese empire would say no.
No mention of the Indian soldiers who defected to the Japanese at Singapore?
No mention of the Indian prototype SS divisons?
I have no idea why you think Indias expanding economy means that we all have to move there? And trust me, India does not take the same attitude to immigration that we soft as shit Brits do. | |
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Posted: 1/22/2007 10:16:07 AM | ^^^ awwwwwww bless
Of course Japan wanted to get us and we wanted to get at them and the best place to do it from was India . Its us Japan had a quarrel with and hence India.
The history and figures stand whether you like them or not.
We had defectors and conchies and Lord Haw Haw and if they had a few...so what?
They had a reason being that we were lording it over them.What reason did our Moselys and Haw Haws have?
You cannot erase the figures and the history.I can see its uncomfortable reading but there you go. Vast amounts of men,money and resources from an alien culture and I truly love your point about " India doesn't take the same attitude to immigration that we soft as shit Brits do"
You know why its laughable....because when we sally forth...we refuse to immigrate....we want to take over lock,stock and barrel and we do.Just ask America,Canada,India,Australia and New Zealand.We never do things by halves! We have been there and done that already.
India and China have the most expanding economies and its expert opinion not mine.
So again Jade Goodie...whats British about her?
That shes a foulmouthed yob of dubious background?
Her whole life has been spent listening to swearing and shouting .The product of our culture being a child of a lemon and an addict.Having children out of wedlock (whats that ?) and shacking up with another at the age of 25.Some culture under threat ! Don't start me off on the other two.
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Thats funny but I get your point and I made mine !
I am not in the house but you would fit in well ...............?
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Posted: 1/22/2007 10:25:14 AM | stooooooooopppppppppppppppppppppppp what your doing will you for fooke sake its reality TV yeah and its a load of shite, id rather watch two flys on the kitchen window then watching this shite, some of you write as tho your actually in the house, guess what everyone BIG BROTHERRRRRRRRR PISSSSSSSSESSSSSSSSSS ME OFFFFFFFFFFFFF  | |
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Posted: 1/22/2007 10:39:35 AM | MSG 172 I'll try and stick to the topic here, because you seem to be getting into a discussion with yourself about how Indians have fought in various wars.
The topic is concerned with the activities of a handful of people on Celebrity Big Brother. The people concerned are an Indian Bollywood actress, and four white British women.
I reckoned that the clashes between the two occurred as a result of differences in their respective cultures, stemming from partly how they were brought up and partly from how they behave as adults.
This often happens when cultures are forced to co-exist.
The same might happen when different British cultures are brought together, as demonstrated by the mature, educated Ken and Leo, who found it difficult to bond with these four women.
"according to Vin , BB is clash of cultures is it ? How odd that is.Since when has Jade Goodie and co. been typical of Britain ? If she is- like I say ..your welcome to her because that is not what Britain means to me ."
I have never stated that these four women are typical of British culture, so please don't misrepresent me. MSG 165 clearly states that I do not consider chavs to be part of my particular version of British culture. What I have been saying is that these four women belong to a culture that does not easily adapt to other cultures.
I reckon that Ken and Leo got along quite well with Shilpa, because they were of a similar upbringing and lifestyle.
"Its British yob culture thats in the dock here"
Precisely my point!!!! Yet it took you several posts to arrive at that conclusion!! lol | |
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Posted: 1/22/2007 1:14:06 PM | | fatty goody is now being treated by docters for shock and depression because of the bullying she is getting by the media...awwwwww...typical bully..now feeling sorry for herself...now looking for sympathy..showing crocodile tears...she is now getting her just deserts..and i hope..she gets alot more.... | |
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Posted: 1/23/2007 10:41:50 AM |
Most really thick people are really racist
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Posted: 1/23/2007 10:55:13 AM |
I've only seen one person refer to another's opinion as "balls", so that might be a starting point for you.
Sorry Vin. I did not mean it as a personal attack, just as statement of anoyance. My sincear apologies to you.
Well you know what...according to Vin , BB is clash of cultures is it ? How odd that is.Since when has Jade Goodie and co. been typical of Britain ? If she is- like I say ..your welcome to her because that is not what Britain means to me
It dose not actualy matter what your opimion of what British culture is in this particular instance. The fact is that Jade Goodie is British and gew up in Britain in a family that is pretty much typical of many areas of Britain and therefore she is an example of a typical Brit.
I am not saying that all Brits are like her, just that she represents the views and culture of particular parts of British culture.
British culture is not a single and simple and easily defined unit, we are a collection of many disperate culture types. We have difrent religions, difrent classes, difrent sexualities, difrent races and difrent nations in our country. This is going to cause friction when conflicting cultures are forced together and in this respect I agrea with Vin.
I do strongly belive though, that with just a little bit of carefull management, conflicts of this nature can be avoided and defused to provide a far more harmonius grouping. | |
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