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| A guy who hunts/fishes is it that unappealing?
Posted: 2/5/2007 9:31:47 AM | I think that poaching, spotlighting, and killing just for the fun or sport of it (leaving the carcass to rot) is wrong... oh, and then there's some that sit in their truck drinking beer waiting for an animal to pass by on it's usual route - that is not "hunting". I'm sure they must hate me, but I lay on the horn to scare an animal away, or hang around so they can't make the "shot"...
I was not thrilled to meet some American hunters that come up here to hunt, because I know they aren't going to be taking home the meat for sure, but one explained to me that they have arrangements for the meat ... it is given to certain local families. (I just hope they all do that!)
But as for hunting or fishing for eating purposes ... that's fine.
Actually, if our ancestors were not hunters & fishermen, most of us wouldn't be around to be talking about it... | |
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| A guy who hunts/fishes is it that unappealing?
Posted: 2/5/2007 12:32:11 PM | Hey Op,
from one avid angeler to another,
Maybe you should tone it down alittle on the profile. Sure you should state its your passion, but leave out the defense statements if you havent already. You can never please all the babes but trust me, your gonna find the right ones. I long to find a fishing chic myself but still its a hard shot.
I think those who truely enjoy fishing and hunting, will abide by the rules and not poach or do other illegal things, after we want a life time of enjoyment of catching certain game as much as we want others to enjoy viewing them to hunting them.
trust me bro, I let everyone know my fishing passion and I have landed a few women who had similair intrests (though it was only one of a few we had) so I'm sure you'll find your type of people and those type of people will understand your passion. | |
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Posted: 2/5/2007 7:32:01 PM | Of coarse I do both hunt and fish,and for some it is a no win situation.However,I just have to call a few out and of coarse they will know who they are.They are plenty of hippocrits out there that hunt unethical,and there are plenty of over weight people that cant get enough meat to eat.But for those that may not understand,mankind has populated and grown so vastly that the living places for the free roaming is getting smaller each day.More and more building,highways,ect..Well it leaves less places for the numbers to be ,so that means must be managed.I would much prefer hunt with a bow,or rifle than with my car,or truck.So ,it will never happen,but if not managed(for food and sport)because they can be done ethically at the same time.Many people would kill ,and possiably be killed in vehicle accedents with animals.This would sky rocket way out of porportion more than most could even emagine.Also speaking of porportions,why take more than you can use or eat.Or why get a second helping in the buffet line,when that just means the quicker a cow goes to the slaughter house.I eat or take only what I or my family will use.And if I were to get an extra,I know plenty that want it.Another example is Venison for hungry.Or food for the hungry.These are benifficial ways that all is used for the good and better of the future,and for those who cant do for theirselves.And another is get in an airplane crash,survive on an island and find out all you can do is eat leaves.I think I will find a way to eat fish and what other animal I can,to survive.Just remember when you get a second helping most were in a fence most there lives and couldn't run away.But out in the real world(or woods)you have to be resourceful for a better future for all.Animals and mankind.
enough said...................
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Posted: 2/5/2007 11:42:59 PM | I rarely ever blog myself, i accept that many people have many different opinions. But on this subject, there is a serious lack of knowledge and understanding, particularly in the larger urban centres.
I grew up in the country, in a large family farming operation, and we hunted for food, we raised 16 foster children, I hunted with my Dad since i was little. I love animals, and it isnt about fun of any kind to kill an animal. It is both brutal and it is hard work. I resent anyone saying hunters do it for fun...it isnt fun. It is about providing meat for your family, and most men take pride in being a good provider, we were mostly raised as hunters, generation to generation...and i can tell you i have spared far more game than i have ever shot and killed.
And i would never kill any animal, wild or domestic, unless there was a need for the meat. I havent hunted in many years now, i have no need.
But for those who so righteously condemn this, particularly those who say they are vegetarians, but still eat plants.....i might refer you to an article in readers digest, where they did a University Study of how plants react to the killing of another plant. They put a pot of boiling oil above a plant in the centre of a room and a control device so that the oil would tip onto the plant over time and spill onto the poor plant underneath it.
They connected seismic wires to every other plant in the room, and there was no other movement, just the slow controlled turn of that boiling oil to that plant below....and guess what...every other plant in the room freaked out long before the boiling oil even hit the plant below...every other plant in that room was aware of what was GOING TO happen to that other plant...they knew..so maybe you shouldnt be quite so high and mighty about being a vegetarian,...plants have lives to....and we kill them to eat them, too...and they know it.
I dislike hunters that kill for trophy, and leave the meat, and i dont care for hunters that go to the bush to party, cuz that is dangerous for all, and i dont care for hunters who wound an animal and leave it to die...but if you have a need and you hunt by the rules, ( and god knows the rules make it almost impossible to be succesful in a hunt these days....more power to you), feed your family. | |
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| A guy who hunts/fishes is it that unappealing?
Posted: 2/6/2007 12:30:25 AM | There are a lot of people who are very touchy on the subject of hunting and fishing, and basicaly, those are not the people you want to date anyways, so hit "delete" and move on.
Some tree-huggers will just never understand that in the world we live in today, we have screwed things up so much that we NEED to hunt to keep populations of certain species from getting overpopulated. Overpopulation can lead to starvation, disease, and serious and irreversible damage to the environment. Before we went destroying habitats, cutting down trees, building highways, dams and cities, the the ecosystem was balanced and nature took care of itself, but we screwed it up and now we need to hunt certain species to keep is as close to balanced as we can.
I do NOT however condone hunting for sport just for the trophy heads, if you shoot it, you should eat it. I also don't condone hunting anything even remotely endangered.
And to anyone who says we were not meant to eat meat, I give you this. There are two types of animals, predatory animals, and prey animals (and some are both hunters and hunted). Now many animals will eat both meat and vegetation, but all predatory animals eat at least some meat. Predatory animals have some physical traits in common, like front-facing eyes (better for focusing on prey). Prey animals have their eyes more to the side, and kinda bulge out, so as to get more panoramic vision, to better catch movement with, and usually have a blind spot about a foot infront of their face (and you will rarely see animals like deer, or horses walk straight to a target, they kinda wander or angel towards it to make their movements less predictable). Now go look in the mirror and tell me which way your eyes point, you are a predatory animal, you are meant to eat atleast some meat.
Now, just to let you know, I don't hunt. I just can't bare the thought of killing something, but I actually thought about it before I formed my opinion. | |
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| A guy who hunts/fishes is it that unappealing?
Posted: 2/6/2007 8:32:49 AM | OP-
as far as I'm concerned it really depends on the purpose of the hunting.
Fishing is obvious - you're not going to go out and catch a bunch of fish and kill em if you're not going to eat them.
So, back to the hunting - if you're hunting simply so that you can stuff the head and stick it on your wall, or stuff the body and stand it in your living room then....well, for my own part, EW.
If you're going to use as much of the animals body for useful things as possible, food, making the hide into a rug or coat something like that then that's fine. If you want to stuff the head and stick it on your wall after all that then...well, put it in the den so I can't see it LOL.
I'm not into killing animals for sport. I'm into surviving, I eat meat - so I can't say that killing animals is wrong. But killing them for the wrong reasons is...uncool, as far as I'm concerned. | |
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| A guy who hunts/fishes is it that unappealing?
Posted: 2/6/2007 12:42:08 PM | The next time someone tells you that killing things is unappealing, remind them that the hair dye they use, the shampoo, makeup, hair spray, the dye that dyed their jeans, the nail polish, the soap and EVERYTHING else used in industry is tested on animals. At least when you kill a deer, duck, moose..whatever, you eat the thing. Ask them about their MORALS and ETHICS when they have leather in their Expedition. How about that? You keep killing things. I applaud you. | |
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| A guy who hunts/fishes is it that unappealing?
Posted: 2/6/2007 3:03:41 PM | Blacktied ^^
do they really still use animals for testing ? Don't most products (now) say "not tested on animals" ?? I'm going to go check my bathroom cabinet after this one ...
And I totally agree, don't tell me it's bad to kill things and then drive off in your gas guzzling, leather seated SUV!  | |
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| A guy who hunts/fishes is it that unappealing?
Posted: 2/7/2007 10:39:36 AM | Oh yes. You don't think that companies want to get sued over you spraying something in your eyes and going blind? They test that on animals to make sure that the product is safe. We are all supporing the killing of innocent things. lol.... | |
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| A guy who hunts/fishes is it that unappealing?
Posted: 2/7/2007 1:45:58 PM | I know some companies, like the Body Shop, say right on the bottle "not tested on animals". So they actually pay people to test the products. They figure people have the choice to subject themselves to whatever unpleasant results might be had. I actually prefer that.
I'm not against killing animals for food or the preserve the population, but to keep them for a long time in a tiny cage and spray them with all sorts of garbage so we can look pretty? not a huge fan of that... although I will admit I don't always check the bottle before buying, so I guess I'm as guilty as the next girl ... | |
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| A guy who hunts/fishes is it that unappealing?
Posted: 2/8/2007 8:40:33 PM | I want to thank you:whatareyouwaitingfor.........I think you have come politicaly correct as one should before they stress their opinion.Exactly what I'm saying is so many have there opinion based on,evidently very little facts.And you hit the hard facts on the button.I thank you for that,I was around some of the facts but didn't come out quite like yours,so you said some points that I didn't quite get out right.Thanks again,and good to see other women with some intellect in a real world situation.Ain't nuthin but the truth.
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| A guy who hunts/fishes is it that unappealing?
Posted: 2/8/2007 10:31:50 PM | | I personally find it a dealbreaker. It is TOTALLY unappealing to me, and I wont give a guy that could kill an innocent animal with his own hands a chance in hell. Sorry, but just my opinion. | |
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| A guy who hunts/fishes is it that unappealing?
Posted: 2/9/2007 3:41:16 AM |
I spend almost all saturday mornings chasing fins, fur or feathers. .....Having had a little history on the 'mishaps' of hunting, it doesn't 'turn me on'. Unless it's for food or culling for an acceptable reason. I don't agree with hunting as a leisure/sport activity. Man will always have the upper hand, and the animals are made to suffer for man's pleasure.
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| A guy who hunts/fishes is it that unappealing?
Posted: 2/9/2007 3:54:01 AM | Most 'mishaps' of hunting are caused by irresponsible hunters (although accidents do happen even while trying to be safe), and I also don't consider hunting or fishing strictly for leisure or sport to be very responsible either. And yes, until somehow deer grow opposable thumbs and arm themselves, man will always have the upper hand. But a responsible hunter will take the time to stalk the animal, work for it, and ensure a clean kill with as little suffering as possible. They also tend to be a loud voice for preserving the species in their natural environments for all to enjoy with or without a gun (or a bow).
I don't really find it a 'turn on' either, but it's certainly not a 'turn off' for me, IF (and only if) he is a responsible hunter. | |
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| A guy who hunts/fishes is it that unappealing?
Posted: 2/9/2007 4:15:05 AM | WhatAreYouWaitingFor.....I do agree with you with most of what you say. I guess the ones I was referring to were the amateur hunters. There is as you bring across a huge difference, between amateur and professional!
As for the OP, I would probably NOT mention hunting in your profile, and leave it until it comes up in conversation at a later stage, should you be interested in someone. JMO.....Some may say be up front, but this is just MY opinion. | |
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| A guy who hunts/fishes is it that unappealing?
Posted: 2/9/2007 7:03:55 AM | there is nothing wrong with hunting it helps keep the animal population in check. otherwise they would start to die anyway. because there would be to many to support the amount of food in the area. i am a member of "PETA"
PEOPLE EATING TASTY ANIMALS | |
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| A guy who hunts/fishes is it that unappealing?
Posted: 2/9/2007 12:59:15 PM | I realize you mention PETA in jest, but before anyone considers supporting them seriously, be VERY cautious and do your homework. Those who truly love animals and honestly believe in their rights to not be abused or mistreated, etc. (genuine rescue workers, shelter volunteers, responsible pet owners, etc) would never in a million years give PETA a nickel. EVER! I'll back up that statement with 28 years in the animal world as a rescue worker, trainer/exhibitor, veterinarian assistant and owner of a pet grooming salon...as well as a devoted pet owner.
To the OP, again, anything that is done obsessively is going to be a turnoff to most women. Whether it's taking care of a car, collecting gnome figurines or hunting. ;)
If your profile focuses totally on negativity that you have received because of your love of hunting/fishing, anyone who reads it is going to believe that that is your entire world. Focus on all the things you enjoy doing when you're not in a hunting stand or a boat, describe what you can offer someone and want to receive in return. And mention that hunting/fishing is a hobby that you enjoy immensely and would love to share with someone, and would love to share things that she enjoys doing in return. And will understand if there are some hobbies and interests that you will never have in common. | |
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| A guy who hunts/fishes is it that unappealing?
Posted: 2/9/2007 3:53:03 PM | One of my favourite things to do with my father when I was growing up was to sit in the rowboat watching the bobber for signs of a bite. We caught bass, pike, salmon and trout. I never did learn to clean the fish, but I sure did like to eat them!!
My current boyfriend loves to fish and hunt. I told him I will join him on fishing trips and even go along to camp while he hunts. His venison steak is to die for!!!! He's a better cook than I am, and I'm not complaining. LOL.
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| A guy who hunts/fishes is it that unappealing?
Posted: 2/9/2007 8:38:47 PM | | i agree in away with you i love to hunt and fish but i do like to do other things to. many differant things. and if the woman i am with does not like hunting in general but does not mind that i do that is fine, and if she likes it thats even better. every relantionship has to have some differences in it otherwise it probobly would get stagnent if thats the proper analogy. | |
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