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| Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why Posted: 3/10/2008 9:44:54 AM | ^^^it's all good...just picking at you 'cuz I haven't spoke to you in a while.....(you can pull your drawers out of your crack now)
OT: think I will flip a coin.......... get it?!!!! | |
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| Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why Posted: 3/10/2008 9:57:53 AM | ROFLMBO!!!!!
Lorri,
Your a hoot(!!!!!!), so is this election. There is not anyone I am even remotely satisfied with. I suppose I will have to soul search and decide whom I want to vote on!
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| Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why Posted: 3/10/2008 10:11:08 AM | Some Political Insensitivities!!!
A grade school teacher in upstate New York asked her class how many of them are 'Hillary fans'. Not really knowing what a Hillary fan is, but wanting to be liked by the teacher, all the kids raised their hands except one boy.
The teacher asked Johnny why he has decided to be different. Johnny says, "I'm not a Hillary fan."
The teacher asks, "Why aren't you a Hillary fan?"
Johnny says: "I'm a George Bush Fan."
The teacher asks why he's a George Bush fan.
The boy says, "Well, my mom's a George Bush fan and my dad's a George Bush fan, so I'm a George Bush Fan!"
The teacher asked: "If your Mom was a moron and your Dad was an idiot, what would that make you?"
Johnny replied: "That would make me a Hillary fan." | |
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| Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why Posted: 3/10/2008 12:13:06 PM |
There is not anyone I am even remotely satisfied with. I suppose I will have to soul search and decide whom I want to vote on!
Sneaks, I agree with you 200%!!!!!!!!
Great minds think alike! | |
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| Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why Posted: 3/11/2008 1:14:36 AM | I know its NOT supposed to happen, that a guy isnt supposded to eb denied food stamps based on the color of his skin. But it DOES happen. Racism works both ways. I have seen it happen against blacks many times too. I myself do not consider myself republican, or democrat, because there's things about BOTH parties I like, and things about BOTH I dont. I know there are Sorry individuals who are white. Color of ones skin on the outside is not what makes a man. The only reason I brought that up is to show that one of the things I dont liek about the democratic party is that they do tend to buy votes from Minorities, then let them down. I will say this, if all I had to choose was Hillary, or Obama, Well, I'ld take Obama alot faster, becuse I KNOW Hillary is Partison. My belief is that whoever gets in, should be presidetn to ALL people, not just one race, one party, or even one religion. HE/She has to represent ALL of us. | |
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| Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why Posted: 3/11/2008 9:15:44 AM | Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why They are both fakes! I would not vote if they were the only two running!
I hate fakes...makes me wanna put my foot where the sun don't shine... I do NOT need to discuss politics...makes me act like a redneck...
Speaking of rednecks and fakes....I do believe I smell that pesty rat again
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| Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why Posted: 3/11/2008 9:58:35 PM | Anvilghost: wrote this: I wouldnt vote for neither one.
Who is Barack Obama?
1- U. S. presidential candidate, Barack Hussein Obama
2- Born in Honolulu , Hawaii ,
Father: Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a black Muslim from Nyangoma-Kogel , Kenya ;
Mother: Ann Dunham, a white atheist from Wichita , Kansas .
Obama's parents met at the University of Hawaii . When Obama was two years old, his parents divorced.
Father: Returned to Kenya .
Mother: Married Lolo Soetoro, a radical Muslim from Indonesia .
3- When Obama was 6 years old, the family relocated to Indonesia .
4- Obama attended a Muslim school in Jakarta . He also spent two years in a Catholic school.
5- Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim . He Is quick to point out
that,"He was once a Muslim, but that he also attended Catholic school."
6- Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that Obama's introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this influence was, temporary.
In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya Soon after the divorce, and never again had any direct influence over His son's education.
7- Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama's mother, Ann Dunham, introduced his stepson to Islam .
8- Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi school in Jakarta . Wahabism is the radical teaching that is followed by the Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western world.
Since it is politically expedient to be a Christian when seeking Major public office in the United States , Barack Hussein Obama has joined the United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim background. Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's presidential candidacy. Please forward to everyone you know. The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the US from the inside out, what better way to start than at the highest level.
My Response:
All i can say is what the hell are you talking about and what does this have to do with the price of tea in China. I mean the man has no choice of who his parents are or what religion or lack of religion they are, nor does he have a choice of what his name is. Lets see you are from Georgia, is your family part of the clan, are you a redneck. Do you see how humilating and dangerouse these type of comments can be. But logic hase no place in peoples minds such as yourself.
Basically what you are saying is, if you do not have a anglo saxon sounding name, whorship in the Judea Christian way then some how you are a bad person or a spy. Not worthy of being a American. How ironic becaue being American and what America stands for is what Obama is. And something we should all strive to be. He is a man of the world no one ethnic group can claim him, nor anyone country.
You know i worked in this resturant and one day one of the cooks came up to me and said "Black people should be happy for slavery " and i was like oh how come, and he said that we were not in Africa and that we have a better life here in America ", i was like how insulting. All i could think about is a this if it was not for the slave trade (african , and trans -alantic), African would not be in the state it is now. But to people like you that is to much logic and it makes you use what litle brain power you have.
And if the muslims said they are going to destroy the US from the inside out, they dont need a spy they have or had George Bush. What most people forget is how the Soviet Union failed, it failed not because the Muslim were stronger, it failed because they were fighting a away game , and the went bankrupt. And that is what is happening right now, it is what Obama predicted what would happen.
Just remember this when you start putting people down by who their parents are, what their name is or what religion they practice. There by the grace of God goes you.
And for God sakes dont drink the kool aide.
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| Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why Posted: 3/12/2008 1:42:44 AM | BlackPrince, do you think if Obama gets the nomination, which seems as if he will, that he will put Hilarry on the ticket as VP? OR do you think She would drag him down? I saw a poll that pult Mccann uop against BOTH. It had Mccain soundly defeating Hillary, but it had Obama with a slight egde on him. I wonder if it would be a mistake on Obamas part, if he wants to win, to put Hillary on as VP?  | |
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| Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why Posted: 3/12/2008 2:12:56 PM |
Lets see you are from Georgia, is your family part of the clan, are you a redneck.
It doesnt matter if my family is part of a clan or if im a redneck. Im not running for president of the most powerful force on earth, America.
But to people like you that is to much logic and it makes you use what litle brain power you have.
I can easily say this to you after the clan and redneck comment.
You sayin' George Bush is a spy is like saying Obama has experience to be the president of the most powerful nation.
Remember Bush is for killing terrosist. Obama is for the terrosist killing us. He did in fact vote no for the war. And he saw the same information that everyone else saw. Back then the information was thought to be true about suddam having WMDs. He also knew that Suddam was funding terrosist. But he still after knowing all that voted no.
Now I dont know about you but, Im all for getting them before they get us. Seems Barack is for them getting us.
I wont be voting for a coward. I also wont be voting for Billary. | |
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| Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why Posted: 3/12/2008 9:23:38 PM | Well i have to honesty say hell no Obama should not put Hillary on the ticket. Who he should put on the ticket which i think would be a good ideal and most democrats would say no to is. Hagel from Nebraska or Iowa or maybe Sanders from Vermont or New Hampshire i have no ideal where both are from i do know they are both elected politician and very moderate and very logical.
Now my fantasy would be Powell, but hey even i know i would be dreaming.
Now let me ask all you guys a question, Democrats, Republicans, and Independents, and Libertarians. What would be wrong if depending on who gets the nomination, if they chose their cabinet from past administrations democrat and republican. I think that would be a great ideal, but only if they take the best minds and independent philosphies. People who have excelled in their fields.
What a dream.
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| Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why Posted: 3/12/2008 9:32:35 PM | Dude i don't know where to even began, so i wont try. I think you missed the whole point of the post and me explaining it would not help you out. You missed all the key points and only focused in what you wanted to hear and left the rest.
But let me say this then i am done with you, when did Obama say he did not want to go after the terrorist, all i ever heard him say is Iraqis did not commit 9/11, and Iraq was a stupid war. He said he wanted to go after the true people who commited 9/11. Whis was not Iraqis.
Let me also say this you can never kill them all, because the will reproduce.
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| Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why Posted: 3/13/2008 7:03:41 AM | IN 52 SECS WHY BARACK OBAMA SHOULD NOT WIN THE GENERAL ELECTION
The Obama Tidal Wave (I like to refer to him as the devil's minion)
We are witnessing a political phenomenon with Barack Obama of rare magnitude. His speeches have inspired millions and yet most of his followers have no idea of what he stands for except platitudes of "Change" or that he says he will be a "Uniter". The power of speech from a charismatic person truly can be a powerful thing. Certainly Billy Graham had charisma and both his manner of speech and particularly the content changed millions. On the extreme other hand, the charisma of Adolph Hitler inspired millions and the results were catastrophic. Barack Obama certainly is no Hitler or a Billy Graham, but for many Americans out there feeling just like a surfer who might be ecstatic and euphoric while riding a tidal wave, the real story is what happens when it hits shore.
Just Some of What Defines Barack Obama:
-- He voted against banning partial birth abortion.
-- He voted no on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions.
-- Supports affirmative action in Colleges and Government.
-- In 2001 he questioned harsh penalties for drug dealing.
-- Says he will deal with street level drug dealing as a minimum wage affair.
-- Admitted marijuana and cocaine use in high school and in college.
-- His religious convictions are very murky.
-- He is willing to meet with Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez, Kim Jung Il and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
-- Has said that one of his first goals after being elected would be to have a conference with all Muslim nations.
-- Opposed the Patriot Act.
-- First bill he signed that was passed was campaign finance reform.
-- Voted No on prohibiting law suits against gun manufacturers.
-- Supports universal healthcare.
-- Voted Yes on providing habeas corpus for Guantanamo detainees.
-- Supports granting driver's licenses to illegal immigrants.
-- Supports extending welfare to illegal immigrants.
-- Voted Yes on comprehensive immigration reform. Would result in 20 million instant citizens never having paid SS, many refusing to speak English, immediately sending for their 40 to 50 million extended relatives telling them not to wait and obey the laws, the once mighty USA is theirs for the taking.
-- Voted Yes on allowing illegal aliens to participate in Social Security.
-- Wants to make the minimum wage a "living wage".
-- Voted with Democratic Party 96 percent of 251 votes.
-- Opposed to any efforts to Privatize Social Security and inst ead supports increasing the amount of tax paid.
-- He voted No on repealing the Alternative Minimum Tax.
-- He voted No on repealing the "Death" Tax.
-- He wants to raise the Capital Gains Tax.
-- Has repeatedly said the surge in Iraq has not succeeded.
-- He is ranked as the most liberal Senator in the Senate today and that takes some doing.
If your political choices are consistent with Barack Obama's and you think that his positions will bring America together or make it a better place, then you will probably enjoy the ride. If you are like most Americans that after examining what he stands for, are truly not in line with his record, it would be prudent to get off the wave or better yet, never get on, before it comes on shore and undermines the very foundations of this great Country. We have limited time to save America or the Supreme Court as we know it. Inaction is action.
This guy is a real danger to the US's security.
Sent to me by a friend...thank you My Friend...I couldn't agree more. Anybody but Obama 08
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| Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why Posted: 3/13/2008 5:49:17 PM | | After hearing h0w his long time pastor preaches, I would not want someone like that as our president. I know that people will not always agree with everything that a preacher says.... however, what Obama's preacher said.... borders or crosses the border onto hate speach and if he can listen to that for 20 years..... then something is amiss. | |
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| Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why Posted: 3/14/2008 11:47:13 AM | Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why
I choose?????
ME yes, me, me, Tam-Me as president for 2018. I had better get to work. I have some campaigning to do. tee-hee :)
Ok, OK I choose Barack Obama....on his mama's Lama...lol that was funny to me...mama's lama. I spit coffee on my laptop. When I read that.
Anyhow I would like Barack Obama for President in 2009 and I hope to God Almighty He wins a 2nd term. As a matter of fact I was praying to God last night that he wins. I hope God listens to me for a change. He has not listen to my pray to win the megamillions lottery. So I think He (GOD) owes me one. Boy that would sure make the opposition mad as he11 wouldn't it? You know if Obama wins not 1 but 2 terms.
Yep I would like Obama as president because.....I am a professional, educated individual, a mother and America born citizen who has the right to vote and select whomever I want as my choice for president of the U.S.A.
out POFers
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| Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why Posted: 3/14/2008 1:48:16 PM | Plan for Immigration
“The time to fix our broken immigration system is now… We need stronger enforcement on the border and at the workplace… But for reform to work, we also must respond to what pulls people to America… Where we can reunite families, we should. Where we can bring in more foreign-born workers with the skills our economy needs, we should”
— Barack Obama, Statement on U.S. Senate Floor, May 23, 2007
Barack Obama's Plan Create Secure Borders
Obama wants to preserve the integrity of our borders. He supports additional personnel, infrastructure and technology on the border and at our ports of entry. Improve Our Immigration System
Obama believes we must fix the dysfunctional immigration bureaucracy and increase the number of legal immigrants to keep families together and meet the demand for jobs that employers cannot fill. Remove Incentives to Enter Illegally
Obama will remove incentives to enter the country illegally by cracking down on employers who hire undocumented immigrants. Bring People Out of the Shadows
Obama supports a system that allows undocumented immigrants who are in good standing to pay a fine, learn English, and go to the back of the line for the opportunity to become citizens. Work with Mexico
Obama believes we need to do more to promote economic development in Mexico to decrease illegal immigration. Barack Obama's Record
* Crack Down on Employers: Obama championed a proposal to create a system so employers can verify that their employees are legally eligible to work in the U.S. * Fix the Bureaucracy: Obama joined Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-IL) to introduce the Citizenship Promotion Act to ensure that immigration application fees are both reasonable and fair. Obama also introduced legislation that passed the Senate to improve the speed and accuracy of FBI background checks. * Respect Families: Obama introduced amendments to put greater emphasis on keeping immigrant families together.
while i detest illegal immigration, I do not rally around destroying families by breaking them apart. If someone wants to be here legally, or make their illegal status legal....good. But to be here illegally and think one has a right to be here illegally and commit crimes while one is here illegall it is wrong. If they get caught by all means deport them.
this is also one of the many reason why i will vote for Barack
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| Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why Posted: 3/14/2008 3:17:28 PM | They are never really deported. And thats nothing to them anyways. An hour later there back in the states. What really needs to be done is, companies that hire illegal aliens need to pay a huge fine for each illegal alien. Like 50, 000 dollars for each illegal alien. And then again and again each time they are caught with them. Eventually companies will not hire them. Then they will not want to even be here.
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| Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why Posted: 3/15/2008 5:41:46 AM | So, I hear Spritzer's wife is going to stand by her man. Good for her.
Also heard she is looking forward to being the next New York Senator....
(sorry, couldn't resist. *smacks hands* badzeebadzee) | |
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| Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why Posted: 3/15/2008 9:38:07 AM | Part of GirlySmiles1 post (which came from her friend)
The power of speech from a charismatic person truly can be a powerful thing. Certainly Billy Graham had charisma and both his manner of speech and particularly the content changed millions. On the extreme other hand, the charisma of Adolph Hitler inspired millions and the results were catastrophic. Barack Obama certainly is no Hitler or a Billy Graham, but for many Americans out there feeling just like a surfer who might be ecstatic and euphoric while riding a tidal wave, the real story is what happens when it hits shore.
And I would like to add something I received from a friend.
A point of note... Adolf Hitler showed the same oration and charismatic personality... he also promoted uniting Germany in a common cause enabling them to become one of the strongest, proudest countries in the world... Amazing what words, charisma and the promotion of power can do isn't it?
billary =
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Please do not vote with tunnel vision!
I'm not enthusiastic about Obama, Clinton, or McCain. Of the three, well....let's just say that this year the democrats make me sick. This is just my opinion and we all have a right to an opinion. | |
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| Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why Posted: 3/15/2008 11:18:55 AM |
Barack Obama: On My Faith and My Church
The pastor of my church, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, who recently preached his last sermon and is in the process of retiring, has touched off a firestorm over the last few days. He's drawn attention as the result of some inflammatory and appalling remarks he made about our country, our politics, and my political opponents.
Let me say at the outset that I vehemently disagree and strongly condemn the statements that have been the subject of this controversy. I categorically denounce any statement that disparages our great country or serves to divide us from our allies. I also believe that words that degrade individuals have no place in our public dialogue, whether it's on the campaign stump or in the pulpit. In sum, I reject outright the statements by Rev. Wright that are at issue.
Because these particular statements by Rev. Wright are so contrary to my own life and beliefs, a number of people have legitimately raised questions about the nature of my relationship with Rev. Wright and my membership in the church. Let me therefore provide some context.
As I have written about in my books, I first joined Trinity United Church of Christ nearly twenty years ago. I knew Rev. Wright as someone who served this nation with honor as a United States Marine, as a respected biblical scholar, and as someone who taught or lectured at seminaries across the country, from Union Theological Seminary to the University of Chicago. He also led a diverse congregation that was and still is a pillar of the South Side and the entire city of Chicago. It's a congregation that does not merely preach social justice but acts it out each day, through ministries ranging from housing the homeless to reaching out to those with HIV/AIDS.
Most importantly, Rev. Wright preached the gospel of Jesus, a gospel on which I base my life. In other words, he has never been my political advisor; he's been my pastor. And the sermons I heard him preach always related to our obligation to love God and one another, to work on behalf of the poor, and to seek justice at every turn.
The statements that Rev. Wright made that are the cause of this controversy were not statements I personally heard him preach while I sat in the pews of Trinity or heard him utter in private conversation. When these statements first came to my attention, it was at the beginning of my presidential campaign. I made it clear at the time that I strongly condemned his comments. But because Rev. Wright was on the verge of retirement, and because of my strong links to the Trinity faith community, where I married my wife and where my daughters were baptized, I did not think it appropriate to leave the church.
Let me repeat what I've said earlier. All of the statements that have been the subject of controversy are ones that I vehemently condemn. They in no way reflect my attitudes and directly contradict my profound love for this country.
With Rev. Wright's retirement and the ascension of my new pastor, Rev. Otis Moss, III, Michelle and I look forward to continuing a relationship with a church that has done so much good. And while Rev. Wright's statements have pained and angered me, I believe that Americans will judge me not on the basis of what someone else said, but on the basis of who I am and what I believe in; on my values, judgment and experience to be President of the United States.
Barack for president. He still has my vote and the vote of 1411 delegates. ( which includes the majority of Mississippi, Wyoming, Vermont, Wisconsin, Hawaii, Virgina, Maryland, District of Columbia, Maine, Virgin Islands, Washington, Nebraska, Louisiana, Utah, North Dakota, Minnesota, Kansas, Illinois, Idaho, Georgia, Democrats Abroad, Delaware, Connecticut, Colorado, Alaska, Alabama, South Carolina, Nevada, Iowa
Barack Obama is getting closer to presidence with every win. Once he is in, the 2nd term should be no problem.
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| Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why Posted: 3/15/2008 3:06:12 PM | Anybody Anybody Anybody but Obama's LLama in 2008 Dayam I'd even vote for Billary instead of Bama's LLama...although I much prefer a real human being... All muslim aside...Obama's LLama can't dance... Anybody except Obama 2008-even a would be better
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