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| Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why
Posted: 3/24/2008 9:26:56 AM |
Well im sure this will really confuse you now. But here goes, im Christian Muslim and Jew all in one.
The Jewish religion came first, then Christian, then Islam. Part 1, 2, and 3
The same angel Gabriel , that came to Mary and said she would be having the Son of God, Came to Muhammad and told him to finish were Jesus left off.
"Those who believe (in the Quran), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians...and (all) who believe in God and the last day and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve." The Qur'an, 2:62
So if Obama is Muslim and he still worships under the Islam faith, its not such a bad thing.
But I will still not vote for him because of some of his issues. Neither once more.
I was born in a Catholic Church, and they washed me in holy water. Anvilghost
Are you Billy? or Billy akaWolfie? or Billy akaSkylar?
The reason I ask is that you can sling the sh!t just like he does.
Not bashing you...just making a comment...a very good one I believe...do I get an Amen?! | |
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| Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why
Posted: 3/24/2008 11:52:01 AM | I seen an interview with Obama today.
I learned some very interesting things from the man.
I still wont be voting for him. But if I were to be killed unless I choose someone, it would be Obama
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| Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why
Posted: 3/24/2008 12:00:50 PM | Seeing how no religion can really be proven, that makes you Wrong. Not bashing you, just telling you fact.
As for the questions you have,
I dont know any Billy
I take that back, I know of Billy the kid, a ruthless cowboy back in the 1800s. Theres a great book written about him.
You should read up on it.
Girlysmiles asked a question, I gave my anwser. No sh!t slinging!
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| Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why
Posted: 3/24/2008 2:20:54 PM | Well you must be one mixed up human being~~ Christian's~~ (Believe in God and that Jesus has already come), ~~Jewish~~ (Believe Jesus was not the Messiah and He is yet to come) and ??Muslim?? (well here goes):
I've tried a little "test" ever since the beginning of this thread and said that if you were Muslim you worshiped Buddah well that just ain't so... Muslim's follow the teachings of Muhammad (they believe him to be a prophet...one sure test of a true prophet is they are NEVER WRONG and he(Muhammad-who has been wrong quite a few times) praises Allah and they all must follow the teachings of Islam. It's Buddhists who worship Buddah.
I think you should read up on religion before declaring one as your own...just go back to howling at the moon...
You were born in a Catholic Church...mind telling me when and where so I can research it...I'm quite sure that would have made the archives and I have a friend that does ancestry...did anyone just hear that turnip truck???
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| Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why
Posted: 3/24/2008 4:36:17 PM | Once again..I DID NOT WRITE THIS !!!
Michelle LaVaughn Robinson Obama
When you consider this along with the obvious philosophy of their church and Pastor for well over 10 years, it makes them to appear to be not only racist but America haters also.
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MICHELE OBAMA’S MILITANT RACISM REVEALED
In her senior thesis at Princeton, Michele Obama, the wife of Barack Obama stated that America was a nation founded on "crime and hatred". Moreover, she stated that whites in America were "ineradicably racist". The 1985 thesis, titled "Princeton-Educated Blacks and the Black Community" was written under her maiden name, Michelle LaVaughn Robinson.
Michelle Obama stated in her thesis that to "Whites at Princeton, it often seems as if, to them, she will always be Black first..." . However it was reported by a fellow black classmate, "If those "Whites at Princeton" really saw Michelle as one who always would "be Black first," it seems that she gave them that impression".
Most alarming is Michele Obama’s use of the term’s "separations" and "integrationist" when describing the views of black people.
Mrs. Obama clearly identifies herself with a "separations" view of race.
"By actually working with the Black lower class or within their communities as a result of their ideologies, a separations may better understand the desperation of their situation and feel more hopeless about a resolution as opposed to an integrationist who is ignorant to their plight."
Obama writes that the path she chose by attending Princeton would likely lead to her "further integration and/or assimilation into a white cultural and social structure that will only allow me to remain on the periphery of society; never becoming a full participant."
Michele Obama clearly has a chip on her shoulder.
Not only does she see separate black and white societies in America; she elevates black over white in her world.
Here is another passage that is uncomfortable and ominous in meaning:
"There was no doubt in my mind that as a member of the black community, I am obligated to this community and will utilize all of my present and future resources to benefit the black community first and foremost. "
What is Michelle Obama planning to do with her future resources if she’s first lady that will elevate black over white in America?
The following passage appears to be a call to arms for affirmative action policies that could be the hallmark of an Obama administration.
"Predominately white universities like Princeton are socially and academically designed to cater to the needs of the white students comprising the bulk of their enrollments."
The conclusion of her thesis is alarming.
Michelle Obama’s poll of black alumni concludes that other black students at Princeton do not share her obsession with blackness. But rather than celebrate, she is horrified that black alumni identify with our common American culture more than they value the color of their skin. "I hoped that these findings would help me conclude that despite the high degree of identification with whites as a result of the educational and occupational path that black Princeton alumni follow, the alumni would still maintain a certain level of identification with the black community. However, these findings do not support this possibility."
Is it no wonder that most black alumni ignored her racist questionnaire? Only 89 students responded out of 400 who were asked for input.
Michelle Obama does not look into a crowd of Obama supporters and see Americans. She sees black people and white people eternally conflicted with one another.
The thesis provides a trove of Mrs. Obama's thoughts and worldview seen through a race-based prism.
This is a very divisive view for a potential first lady that would do untold damage to race relations in this country in a Barack Obama administration.
Michelle Obama’s intellectually refined racism should give all Americans pause for deep concern.
Now maybe she’s changed, but she sure sounds like someone with an axe to grind with America. Will the press let Michelle get a free pass over her obviously racist comment about American whites? I am sure that it will. But it shouldn’t.
FYI: I am not a supporter of any of the candidates for president. In fact, they all leave a bad taste in my mouth. However, I am definitely sick of the main stream media (MSM) feeding us all this crap about Obama being an agent of change.
Has anyone stopped to think what kind of change? ? ? ? ? Really? ? ? ? ?
I suggest we all remember the message in the novel Animal Farm by George Orwell. If you’re not familiar with the novel, I highly recommend reading it.
Pass this on if you’re sick of the Main Stream Media (MSM) hiding the Facts! ! ! !
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| Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why
Posted: 3/24/2008 9:26:07 PM | Why people come out with lies about Obama is beyond me. If you dont like him, put down facts why you dont like him. Dont lie, because when you are caught, it just makes him seem to be the one who should be President.
I dont want him to win because he is for abortion, higher taxes, hes not for wire tapping. Those are just a few. These are the same reasons I dont want Hillary to win.
Reason for Mccain is, #1 hes just another Bush, when it comes to staying in Iraq.
That reason alone will be the fall of John Mccain
Everyone get ready to have Obama or Hillary as the next President.
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| Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why
Posted: 3/25/2008 8:12:56 AM | The Tax Foundation - U.S. Federal Individual Income Tax Rates History, 1913-2008 http://www.taxfoundation.org/publications/show/151.html
Taxes under Clinton 1999 --- Taxes under Bush 2008
Single making 30K - tax $8,400 --- Single making 30K - tax $4,500
Single making 50K - tax $14,000 --- Single making 50K - tax $12,500
Single making 75K - tax $23,250 --- Single making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 60K - tax $16,800 --- Married making 60K- tax $9,000
Married making 75K - tax $21,000 --- Married making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 125K - tax $38,750 --- Married making 125K - tax $31,250
If you want to know just how effective the mainstream media is, it is amazing how many people that fall into the categories above think Bush is robbing them and Bill Clinton was the greatest President ever.
Hillary and Obama say they will repeal the Bush tax cuts and a good portion of the people that fall into the categories above can't wait for it to happen.
This is like the movie The Sting with Paul Newman; you scam somebody out of some money and they don't even know what happened.
The web site above, has the detailed numbers and can be used for verification for the "doubting Thomases".
Just food for thought when you vote. Your vote should be based on what's best for America and not for someone trying to claim to be the first Woman or African American in Office for the President!
PEACE-OUT
~Sneaks
p.s. Some people are such creatures of habit, it's totally funny!!!!!!!! | |
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| Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why
Posted: 3/25/2008 9:58:27 AM |
Some people are such creatures of habit, it's totally funny!!!!!!!!
How true, how true! 
oooo lady lorieli you are a lady and you do get a amen also a big 10-4 Hey Over! Haven't seen you since Metter! You should pop in the forums more often.
However, I am definitely sick of the main stream media (MSM) feeding us all this crap about Obama being an agent of change.
Has anyone stopped to think what kind of change? ? ? ? ? Really? ? ? ? ?
I suggest we all remember the message in the novel Animal Farm by George Orwell. If you’re not familiar with the novel, I highly recommend reading it.
Pass this on if you’re sick of the Main Stream Media (MSM) hiding the Facts! ! ! !
We are very sick of it and yes, it will be passed on to MANY.
Seeing how no religion can really be proven, that makes you Wrong. Not bashing you, just telling you fact. I started to tell you something very "factual" in rebutal to your post, but you know what, I might as well be talking to a wall.
The more of his posts I read the more revealing is his ignorance.
He failed Girly's test.
He said McCain is like Bush and one of the reasons he mentioned is higher taxes and then Sneaks plainly "proved" that Bush has lowered the taxes.
I will agree that he is not slinging sh!t, but instead, he is swimming in it, from beginning to end, the alpha and the omega, the bingbangboom, the omega boom, wolfie, sklyar,Billy,Billy the kid, and whatever alias he picks next or has already picked.
His next alias should be "HeWhoFellFromTurnipTruck"
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| Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why
Posted: 3/25/2008 1:16:07 PM |
He said McCain is like Bush and one of the reasons he mentioned is higher taxes and then Sneaks plainly "proved" that Bush has lowered the taxes.
Im just sitting here wondering how in the hell that ^^^ looks lick this vvv
Reason for Mccain is, #1 hes just another Bush, when it comes to staying in Iraq.
Maybe if you actually read you might understand what im talking about.
As for all the names you keep calling me, I done told you I dont know who that is?
I promise you im not your ex-boyfriend, I dont find women with ignorance attractive.
Again I wouldnt vote for Hillary and Obama because they are for higher taxes.
I wouldnt vote for Mccain because he is like Bush when it comes to the war in Iraq.
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| Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why
Posted: 3/25/2008 3:59:45 PM |
He never wants to leave.
Yea we know
Neither once a muslim always a muslim...once a jihad...always a jihad...
Maybe if you actually read you might understand what im talking about. Oh on this one I'm laughing so hard I can't even think of a comment...so No Comment | |
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| Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why
Posted: 3/25/2008 5:05:34 PM | Obama isnt a muslim,
Hes been going to a Christian church for 20 years. Doesnt matter if he were a Muslim though. Muslims arnt bad people
I wont vote for him because of his issues. Has nothing to do with his religion. He could worship what wiccans worship for all I care.
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| Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why
Posted: 3/26/2008 2:50:53 AM | | Ok, I am not the most highly educated person around. But it seems to me this is not as complicated as it sounds. Right now we have 3 choices. We have Obama, Hillary, and McCain. Both Hillary and Obama are at "war" with each other trying to get thier partyies nomination. And how ugly it is. It is like intelectual WWE. But then again, thats what American politics have become. It is no longer disscussing, and debating issues that face this nation, it is how to body slam the opponent in the name of winning power for your party. What makes this so sad for this country is even if they are elected, every decision they make is to make sure another from thier party is elected, or keeps office. It is all just a populariy contest. These parties, dems, repubs, they arent picking whats best for US, they are picking who coulkd WIN. It is about WINNING. Screw whats best. To hell with whats really good. THEY just want to WIN. And WIN by any means possible. In sports they have the steroids scandal in Baseball, the spygate scandall in football. In politics, it is all the same. They will cheat to win. So which of these 3 choices do you think is the least of the cheaters? Which one has been through it all? Which one has proven he/she doestn care about what party affilliation he/she has? We have 3 choices, and maybe none of them would be your ideal choice, but 1 of these 3 WILL be the next president. So choose the one that will be the one that hasnt already been in a corrupt admin, one that proves time in and time out, that party affiliation doesnt mean squat. wer havent had that in ahile, and , in my opinion, we sure would NOT have that with either Obama or Hillary. | |
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| Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why
Posted: 3/26/2008 3:51:50 AM |
So choose the one that will be the one that hasnt already been in a corrupt admin, one that proves time in and time out, that party affiliation doesnt mean squat. wer havent had that in ahile, and , in my opinion, we sure would NOT have that with either Obama or Hillary.
Listening to the news last night, this war between the two democrats was mentioned. The reporter said it is usually right before the final election that this type of war will take place between the two parties. Instead, it is between the two candidates from one party, the democrats. It always gets dirty right at the end but now the republicans will not have any ammunition to use against the democrats because they are using it all now against each other. What dumb a$$eS...
Read this from a magazine...not my words but sharing them as food for thought....
And speaking of politics, our recent Your Two Cents question about Barack Obama and his relationship with Rev. Wright generated a firestorm of comments from our readers.
Here's what some Daily Cents readers had to say:
"You are what you eat, and Obama's been fed a steady stream of this venomous hatred for 20 years. Apparently it is so ingrained in his family that he doesn't recognize this to be a problem."
I pray the voters recognize it. | |
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| Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why
Posted: 3/26/2008 4:39:06 PM | | Asking me this question is like asking if I would prefer execution by gas chamber or electric chair. I may just choose not to vote this time. I just can't get excited by any of the candidates. But if I go I'll vote McCain. | |
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| Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why
Posted: 3/27/2008 12:23:15 AM | Sneaks,
That's good information, and so true. Before Bush's tax cuts my ta refunds were only $1200, after, they where $2100. It jumped up $900. That's more of MY money back in my pocket. I was making less than 30 grand a year then. With a kid. Some of these folks want to think Bush's tax cuts help only the rich, I ask them this, Do I sound rich to you? They helped me.
Another taxation that you all may want to think about is social security tax. Meaning the taxation of income from social security that elderly people get. Did you all know that during the Clinton admin, that tax was raised, meaning elderly people who received social security checks, that they got smaller amounts?
The vote for that tax was a tie in the senate that year. Guess who cast the tie breaking vote? AL GORE. The Clinton's VP. So, in other words, the CLINTONS wanted elderly people to get smaller social security checks. It worked. My now deceased, God rest his soul Father in laws check sure got smaller because of it.
I agree with Sneaks wholeheartedly, vote for whats best for the country, not just to be a 1st.  | |
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| Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why
Posted: 3/27/2008 8:57:02 AM | Best for the country would be a Democratic, best for you would be a Republican.
No party restores the economy better then the dems. Thats just fact. You may not like them, but that is a fact about the economy.
No party puts your own money back in your pocket better then the reps, thats fact.
So going by the above poster and I believe he is right, we should vote whats best for the country, and not ourselves. Thats the only reason why I choose Obama more then any other. Its not because he is half black and half white. Its because I think he would be the best out of the three. But if I really had my way, Ron Paul would be President in 2009 | |
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| Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why
Posted: 3/27/2008 2:20:43 PM | | Anvil... if race has noting to do with your choice of whom to vote for...why are you the only one to mention it in almost every post you put on this board...no one else has...but in case you didn't know being muslim doesn't mean you are black... | |
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| Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why
Posted: 3/27/2008 3:06:46 PM |
I agree with Sneaks wholeheartedly, vote for whats best for the country, not just to be a 1st.
Girlysmiles I ask you, what do you think that ^^^ means????
I was just telling wheresmydog that im not wanting him to be president because of his color, but because he would be the best choice of the three because he is a dem.
I know Hillary is also. But I dont trust her.
One more thing, this is the first time I ever said anything about Obamas race.
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| Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why
Posted: 3/28/2008 1:55:51 AM |
How are democrats best for the economy? please explain! Higher taxes? OK, so why do companies go oversees? Maybe because labor is cheaper. But their is another reason. NO TAXES. But Dems want to do what? RAISE taxes. OK, how is that goi9ng to keep JOBS here again? We have to make it comparably cheaper in corporations, and manufacturing companies to be able to compete. Does anyone want to take a huge PAYCUT? So as to save these companies money so they t send our jobs elsewhere? HELL NO. So what is the only other way the GOVERNMENT can decrease the costs of operating a corporation, or manufacturing company here in the united states? TAXES. Plain and simple. Not rocket science. So what did DEMOCRATS think about TAXES? What have Democrats done with TAXES everytime they have the power to do so?
THEY RAISE THEM.
OK, You can bring up the economy during the Clinton admin. To that I will say this. It sucked the 1st 2 years of it. That's why Bill Clinton's approval rating for his 1st 2 years in office was 38%.
It got better his last 6 years , didn't it? So what happened? OK, Can you remember the contract with America? That's what got the REPUBLICANS to take over the house AND senate for the 1st time in 58, could be 68 years. YES, BILL CLINTON had a republican controlled HOUSE and SENATE for the last 6 years. Look up how GOVERNMENT operates. it is CONGRESS that makes budgets. So therefore, it wasn't JUST BILL CLITNON, but REPUBLICANS that had this economy going well then. IMHO I think it was because the repubs wouldn't let CLINTON do every stupid thing he wanted. Oh, by the way, Do you not remember Bill Clinton saying, before he got elected that he wanted a $2 a gallon tax on gasoline? I do! Good thing he didn't get it! Gas would be 5 bucks a Gallon NOW! | |
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