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 Anvilghost

Joined: 3/7/2008
Msg: 451
Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why
Posted: 3/28/2008 6:11:51 AM
Point blank,

You may not like Bill Clinton, but he will go down as the best president since JFK.

No president restored the economy like Bill Clinton did.

He could get something done with the majority of the replublicans. Thats what made him a great president. Look at Bush, veto-ing everthing that congress puts on his desk. Ofcourse they are going to go against him also. And they have. You got to give to get sometimes. But Bush just wants to get and never give. Another reason why he is a very bad president in my opinion.

The best way I can tell you that dems are best at restoring the economy is, wait till 2010 or 11 when you see how much better it will be compared to now.

Obama or Hillary will be president then.
 Wheresmydog

Joined: 2/23/2008
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Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why
Posted: 3/28/2008 7:15:46 PM
Or you could say look how WORSE it is now, than it was just 2 years ago, before DEMOCRATS took control of the house and senate!
The jobless rate was down, the stock market was at all time highs, housing market was better, heck, even GAS prices went down in winter, but not now! Whats the difference? Democrats DUPED America by promising them they would FORCE Bush to bring the troops home. YES that is why DEMOCRATS took over the house and senate. Well, did the democrats KEEP their promise?????? One they KNEW before hand that they could NOT keep, by the way. So they LIED to america , yet again, so what makes you think they will keep their promises this time? They haven't kept on in 68 years, so why start now?
Oh, By the way, BILL CLINTON Vetoed more bills than almost anyone . And it is DEMOCRATS that are the ones who take, and don't give. It was Republicans that gave NAFTA to Bill Clinton. I personally don't agree with Nafta, but it was a republican idea. One that BUSH SR wanted but Democrats didn't want it,, mainly because they wouldn't get credit for it. well, They got Credit for it now! Line Item Veto, which BUSH SR wanted but DEM controlled congress refused to do, the repub controlled congress GAVE it to BILL CLINTON. So you see, It isn't REPUBLICANS that do not at least try to reach a middle ground.
BUSH Jrs 1st bill he signed when he 1st got in office, was an education bill, that BUSH went to TED KENEDDY to help him with. EXCUSE ME but isn't TED KENEDDY a DEMOCRAT? One that BUSH initiated contact with? Seems to me Bush wanted to get along with BIOTH parties, it is the DEMOCRATS that refused to get along with HIM. I by no means am saying he will go down as the best pres ever, bot by a long shot, but truth be told, the democrats were more obstrucionists than anything, mainly because I believe they never accept him as a legit president, because of the 2000 elections. So they were NOT going to cooperate, even if BUSH tried to pass what DEMS wanted. It didn't matter how much BUSH reached out. IF you ask me, BUSH was to NICE to them. Especially after Cynthia Mckinney and her Big mouth accused BUSH of , basically masterminding 9-11 so that he could personally profit from it. If that were ME, I would have Publicly made her look like the fool she is, and I wouldn't have been polite about it. I would have been tempted to use the FBI and the CIA just the way BILL LINTON did, and have then dig up as much dirt on her as they could. Oh you don't remember BILL CLINTON doing that? Yes, he did, he used the FBI and the CIA to dig up dirt on repu8bl;i9can candidates so he could blackmail them. Such an HONEST use of those departments! Screw keeping crime and terrorism at bay huh? But hey, whats good for the goose is good for the gander heh?
 Anvilghost

Joined: 3/7/2008
Msg: 453
Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why
Posted: 3/28/2008 10:56:16 PM

Or you could say look how WORSE it is now, than it was just 2 years ago, before DEMOCRATS took control of the house and senate!


You're right it is worst then it was 2 years ago.

President Bush has been vetoing everything the dems do to try and help us out here in the real world. President Bush is living in fantasy world, he has said himself lots of times that nothing is wrong with the ecomony.

Guess there isnt when your making millions in oil

Obama in 2009
 Wheresmydog

Joined: 2/23/2008
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Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why
Posted: 3/29/2008 10:37:24 PM
Maybe because the dems were wasting thier time trying to force Bush do do soemthing they knew before they took office wouldnt happen. Could it be the economy was fairly good 2 years ago because of the Repubs in controll? Not neccesarily atributed to BUSH?
See, this is why I am liking Mccain more by the minute. His record indicates that he does not CARE about those 3 letters (REP) by his name. He didnt skip out onhis duties to his country, like the past 2 presidents have rightfully been questioned about.
It is My opinion that if we go by all DEM or all REPUB, we will have problems. I believ in soem of what BOTH parties stand for, but I will say I do lean more towards repub side. I think we need a President that WILL listen to BOTH parties, as the president will be representing ALL of us.
I KNOW the HILLARY would eb as partisin as anyone could be. I will say I dont know about Obama. I can also say I know Bush has been to a point to. But Mccain I know hasnt been. He in fact has been a critic of Bush on many occasions. That tells me he wont do anything just to follow party lines. ANd We al need a person that represents all of the USA. Not just half.
 LoreliTheLady

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Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why
Posted: 3/30/2008 6:49:16 PM
This was sent to me and I feel we all should read it...if you read all of it you will see that it relates as a comment to many previous posts.

This is the most cogent and powerful essay on the threat of Islamic terrorism I have seen. Dr. Vernon Chong is, without a doubt, the most articulate and convincing writer I have read regarding the War in IRAQ .

If you would like to see who this fine man is, go to this Air Force web site and look him up: http://www.af.mil/bios/bio.asp?bioID=5000"

Muslim terrorists and the U.S.A.:
A different spin on the war in Iraq: This WAR is REAL
Dr. Vernon Chong, Major General, USAF, Retired

To get out of a difficulty, one usually must go through it. Our country is now facing the most serious threat to its existence, as we know it, that we have faced in your lifetime and mine (which includes WWII).

The deadly seriousness is greatly compounded by the fact that there are very few of us who think we can possibly lose this war and even fewer who realize what losing really means.

First, let's examine a few basics:

1 When did the threat to us start?
Many will say September 11, 2001.



The answer, as far as the United States is concerned, is 1979, 22 years prior to September 2001, with the following attacks on us:




* Iran Embassy Hostages, 1979;
* Beirut , Lebanon Embassy 1983;
* Beirut, Lebanon Marine Barracks 1983;
* Lockerbie , Scotland Pan-Am flight to New York 1988;
* First New York World Trade Center attack 1993;
* Dhahran , Saudi Arabia Khobar Towers Military complex 1996;
* Nairobi , Kenya US Embassy 1998;
* Dares Salaam , Tanzania US Embassy 1998;
* Aden , Yemen USS Cole 2000;
* New York World Trade Center 2001;
* Pentagon 2001.

(Note: during the period from 1981 to 2001 there were 7,581 terrorist attacks worldwide.)

2 Why were we attacked?
Envy of our position, our success, and our freedoms. The attacks happened during the administrations of Presidents Carter, Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton and Bush 2. We cannot fault either the Republicans or Democrats, as there were no provocations by any of the presidents or their immediate predecessor, President Ford.

3 Who were the attackers?

In each case, the attacks on the US were carried out by Muslims.

4 What is the Muslim population of the World?
25%.

5 Isn't the Muslim Religion peaceful?
Hopefully, but that is really not material. There is no doubt that the predominately Christian population of Germany was peaceful, but under the dictatorial leadership of Hitler (who was also Christian), that made no difference. You either went along with the administration or you were eliminated. There were 5 to 6 million Christians killed by the Nazis for political reasons (including 7,000 Polish priests).

see http://www.Nazis.testimony.co.uk/7-a.htm

Thus, almost the same number of Christians were killed by the Nazis as the six million holocaust Jews who were killed by them, and we seldom hear of anything other than the Jewish atrocities. Although Hitler kept the world focused on the Jews, he had no hesitancy in killing anyone who got in the way of his extermination of the Jews or of taking over the world - German, Christian, or any others.

Same with the Muslim terrorists. They focus the world on the US , but kill all in the way -- their own people or the Spanish, British, French or anyone else. The point here is that, just like the peaceful Germans were of no protection to anyone from the Nazis, no matter how many peaceful Muslims there may be, they are no protection for us from the terrorist Muslim leaders and what they are fanatically bent on doing -- by their own pronouncements -- killing all of us "infidels." I don't blame the peaceful Muslims. What would you do if the choice was to remain silent or be killed?

6 So who are we at war with?
There is no way we can honestly respond that it is anyone other than the Muslim terrorists. Trying to be politically correct and avoid verbalizing this conclusion can well be fatal. There is no way to win if you don't clearly recognize and articulate who you are fighting.

So with that background, now to the two major questions:
1 Can we lose this war?
2 What does losing really mean?

If we are to win, we must clearly answer these two pivotal questions:

We can definitely lose this war and, as anomalous as it may sound, the major reason we can lose is that so many of us simply do not fathom the answer to the second question - What does losing mean?

It would appear that a great many of us think that losing the war means hanging our heads, bringing the troops home, and going on about our business, like post-Vietnam. This is as far from the truth as one can get.

What losing really means is:
We would no longer be the premier country in the world. The attacks will not subside, but, rather, will steadily increase. Remember, they want us dead, not just quiet. If they had just wanted us quiet, they would not have produced an increasing series of attacks against us over the past 18 years. The plan was, clearly, for terrorists to attack us until we
were neutered and submissive to them.

We would, of course, have no future support from other nations, for fear of reprisals and for the reason that they would see; we are impotent and cannot help them...

They will pick off the other non-Muslim nations, one at a time. It will be increasingly easier for them. They already hold Spain hostage. It doesn't matter whether it was right or wrong for Spain to withdraw its troops from Iraq. Spain did it because the Muslim terrorists bombed their train and told them to withdraw the troops. Anything else they want Spain to do will be done. Spain is finished.

The next will probably be France. Our one hope with France is that they might see the light and realize that if we don't win, they are finished, too, in that they can't resist the Muslim terrorists without us. However, it may already be too late for France. France is already 20% Muslim and fading fast.

Without our support, Great Britain will go, also. Recently, I read that there are more mosques in England than churches.

If we lose the war, our production, income, exports, and way of life will all vanish as we know it. After losing, who would trade or deal with us if they were threatened by the Muslims? If we can't stop the Muslim terrorists, how could anyone else?

The radical Muslims fully know what is riding on this war, and therefore are completely committed to winning, at any cost. We'd better know it, too, and be likewise committed to winning at any cost.

Why do I go on at such lengths about the results of losing? Simple. Until we recognize the costs of losing, we cannot unite and really put 100% of our
thoughts and efforts into winning. And it is going to take that 100% effort to win.

So, how can we lose the war?

Again, the answer is simple. We can lose the war by "imploding." That is, defeating ourselves by refusing to recognize the enemy and their purpose and failing
to dig in and lend full support to the war effort. If we are united, there is no way that we can lose. If we continue to be divided, there is no way that we can
win.

Let me give you a few examples of how we simply don't comprehend the life and death seriousness of this situation:

President Bush selects Norman Mineta as Secretary of Transportation. Although all of the terrorist attacks were committed by Muslim men between 17 and 40 years of age, Secretary Mineta refuses to allow profiling. Does that sound like we are taking this thing seriously? This is war! For the duration, we are going to have to give up some of the civil rights to which we have become accustomed. We had better be prepared to lose some of our civil rights temporarily or we will most certainly lose all of them permanently.

And don't worry that it is a slippery slope. We gave up plenty of civil rights during WWII, and immediately restored them after the victory ... and, in fact, added many more since that time.

Do I blame President Bush or President Clinton before him?

No, I blame us for blithely assuming we can maintain all of our Political Correctness and all of our civil rights during this conflict and have a clean, lawful, honorable war. None of those words apply to war. Get them out of your head.

Some have gone so far in their criticism of the war and/or the Administration that it almost seems they would literally like to see us lose.

I think some actually do. I hasten to add that this isn't because they are disloyal. It is because they just don't recognize what losing means. Nevertheless, that conduct gives the impression to the enemy that we are divided and weakening. It concerns our friends and it does great damage to our cause.

Of more recent vintage, the uproar fueled by the politicians and media regarding the treatment of some prisoners of war perhaps exemplifies best what I am saying. We have recently had an issue involving the treatment of a few Muslim prisoners of war, by a small group of our military police.. These are the type prisoners who just a few months ago were throwing their own people off buildings, cutting off their hands, cutting out their tongues, and otherwise murdering their own just for disagreeing with Saddam Hussein.

And, just a few years ago, these same type prisoners chemically killed 400,000 of their own people for the same reason. They are also the same type of enemy fighters who recently were burning Americans and dragging their charred corpses through the streets of Iraq. And, still more recently, the same type of enemy that was and is providing videos to all news sources internationally of the beheading of American prisoners they held.

Compare this with some of our press and politicians, who for several days have thought and talked about nothing else but the "humiliating" of some Muslim prisoners -- not burning them, not dragging their charred corpses through the streets, not beheading them, but "humiliating" them.

Can they be for real?

The politicians and pundits have even talked of impeachment of the Secretary of Defense. If this doesn't show the complete lack of comprehension and understanding of the seriousness of the enemy we are fighting, the life and death struggle we are in, and the disastrous results of losing this war, nothing can.

To bring our country to a virtual political standstill over this prisoner issue makes us look like Nero playing his fiddle as Rome burned -- totally oblivious to what is going on in the real world. Neither we, nor any other country, can survive this internal strife. Again, I say, this does not mean that some of our politicians or media people are disloyal. It simply means that they are absolutely oblivious to the magnitude of the situation we are in and into which the Muslim terrorists have been pushing us for many years.

These people are a serious and dangerous liability to the war effort. We must take note of who they are and get them out of office. Remember, the Muslim terrorists stated goal is to kill all infidels. That translates into ALL non-Muslims -- not just in the United States, but throughout the world. We are the last bastion of defense.

We have been criticized for many years as being 'arrogant.' That charge is valid. We are arrogant in that we believe that we are so good, powerful, and smart that we can win the hearts and minds of all those who attack us, and that, with both hands tied behind our back, we can defeat anything bad in the world. We can't!

If we don't recognize this, our nation, as we know it, will not survive, and no other free country in the world will survive if we are defeated.

And, finally, name any Muslim countries throughout the world that allows freedom of speech, freedom of thought, freedom of religion, freedom of the press, equal rights for anyone -- let alone everyone, equal status or any status for women, or that have been productive in one single way that contributes to the good of the world.

This has been a long way of saying that we must be united on this war or we will be equated in the history books to the self-inflicted fall of the Roman Empire. If, that is, the Muslim leaders will allow history books to be written or read.

If we don't win this war right now, keep a close eye on how the Muslims take over France in the next 5 years or less. They will continue to increase the Muslim population of France and continue to encroach, little by little, on the established French traditions.

The French will be fighting among themselves over what should or should not be done, which will continue to weaken them and keep them from any united resolve. Doesn't that sound eerily familiar?

Democracies don't have their freedoms taken away from them by some external military force. Instead, they give their freedoms away, politically correct piece by politically correct piece.

And they are giving those freedoms away to those who have shown, worldwide, that they abhor freedom and will not apply it to you or even to themselves, once they are in power.

Muslims have universally shown that when they have taken over, they then start brutally killing each other over whom the few will be controlling the masses.

What is happening in Iraq is a good example. Will we ever stop hearing from the politically correct about the "peaceful Muslims?"

I close on a hopeful note by repeating what I said before: If we are united, there is no way that we can lose. I hope now, after the election, the factions in our country will begin to focus on the critical situation we are in, and will unite to save our country. It is your future we are talking about. Do whatever you can to preserve it. I reiterate: our national election is under way.

After reading the above, we all must do this, not only for ourselves, but for our children, our grandchildren, our country, and our world. Whether Democrat or Republican, conservative or liberal ... and that includes the Politicians and media of our country and the free world.

Please forward this to any you feel may want, or NEED to read it. Our "leaders" in Congress ought to read it, too. There are those who find fault with our country, but it is obvious to anyone who truly thinks through this, that we must UNITE!

Lastly, I wish to add: at the risk of offending, I sincerely think that anyone who rejects this as just another political rant, or doubts the seriousness of this issue, or just deletes it without sending it on, is part of the problem. Let's quit laughing at and forwarding the jokes and cartoons which denigrate and ridicule our leaders in this war against terror. They
are trying to protect the interests and well being of the US and it's citizens. Best we support them.

GOD BLESS AMERICA
 Snprvnm

Joined: 12/11/2006
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Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why
Posted: 4/2/2008 4:29:58 PM
Hillarys F*cking Obama! - Watch more free videos

http://www.break.com/index/hillarys-fcking-obama.html
 LoreliTheLady

Joined: 1/14/2007
Msg: 457
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Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why
Posted: 4/3/2008 9:08:11 AM
^^^I watched it^^^
 girlysmiles1

Joined: 12/11/2007
Msg: 458
Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why
Posted: 4/3/2008 9:35:20 AM
Awesome post Loreli but a few things...
1 The muslims now outnumber Roman Catholics...and it's spreading. (Just recently announced by the Pope)
2 Obama IS a minion of the devil.
3 Everything Dr. Vernon Chong said IS 100% true.
4 I read reviews of Obama's 3 LMAO-Pompous ***holeautobiographys BEFORE this run for the money started and do a search for them now...let me know please if you find them...I can't because they were VERY Negative and have poofed? Hmmmm...
5 If he wins we are in deep chit...no matter the price of gold...don't sell your's Keep It they want you to sell and devalue the American dollar.
6 I'm hedging my bets and own 1 million Iraq dinars...just in case we are pulled out of this war by a radical muslim whom uninformed people may get elected into office...
7 They are marking animals/clothing/God know what else with tracking chips now...how long do you think it will be before they do the same to humans...horse breeders were told to NOT clone horses...they said KMA and did it anyway...I'm sorta glad I live in the "good ole boy" south where they learn how to shoot at the age of 4 and have learned a tad since the civil war.

PS...watched the video...
 Anvilghost

Joined: 3/7/2008
Msg: 459
Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why
Posted: 4/4/2008 6:00:07 PM
Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah..........................

Obama will be the next President of the United States......

I bet he does a better job then Bush ever did......................I still would have prefer an independent or Ron Paul. But its to late for that now. Just glad Bush is leaving.

Cause to me, Bush IS a minion of the devil.
 LoreliTheLady

Joined: 1/14/2007
Msg: 460
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Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why
Posted: 4/5/2008 7:17:39 AM
IF Obama is the next elected president, his term will be the shortest in history.

I am not saying why. I should not have to. I am not saying it is right. I am just saying.

 Anvilghost

Joined: 3/7/2008
Msg: 461
Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why
Posted: 4/5/2008 6:11:40 PM
Blah Blah Blah..... You thinking Obama is going to be shot? If that were so, Bush would have been dead.

I keep hearing from some people that if Obama is elected he will be shot for being the first black president. I dont think that would ever happen.

Just because Bush never has been shot at for being the dumbest President this country has ever had.

I think Obama is going to prove all his critics wrong and become one of the best Presidents of the US of A.
 Wheresmydog

Joined: 2/23/2008
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Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why
Posted: 4/5/2008 6:54:24 PM
I dont think Obama being black would be the main reason he may get shot.
Let me put it this way. Ask yourself what is the absolute worse that can happen if the worsrt thing about each candadite were true , durring thier terms.
Hillary. Well. Still total bickering in washington, TAXES get raised through thr roof, And PMS may make her push a little red button. (JOKING)
McCain. Well, He is old, so I guess that would be that he DIES before his term is up.
Obama. Well, this could be that he ACTUALLY IS a Radical MUSLIM in his heart of hearts and has done a great job at BS'ing the country about it. He sells us out to all MUSLIM terrorists, and hence, we are no longer FREE. Women will have to wear Veils. I am not for that. I wanna SEE all these pretty GA girls!
So you see, it will be his alleged ties to Radical MUSLIMS that would get him SHOT. Not the color of his skin.
Oh by the way, which one of these worse cas scenarios are YOU willing to VOTE for? Oh, Food for thought, Obama went to a church for 20 years and didnt know what his PASTOR stood for on all counts? Maybe he wasnt LISTENING . Maybe he was there for SHOW. So how much are we willing to RISK and GAMBLE on in thios election? Taxes? Death by natural causes? OR having all our freedoms handed away by a Guy who FAKED being Christian, and Really is RADICAL MUSLIM? Me, I'll go with the safest bet. Maybe Obama is being HONEST, Maybe he isnt. Not like a Politition to LIE about himself is it?
 Anvilghost

Joined: 3/7/2008
Msg: 463
Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why
Posted: 4/5/2008 7:33:31 PM

Obama. Well, this could be that he ACTUALLY IS a Radical MUSLIM in his heart of hearts and has done a great job at BS'ing the country about it. He sells us out to all MUSLIM terrorists, and hence, we are no longer FREE.


He is only one man. The President wouldnt be able to do what you say. Stuff like that will be noticed and he would be out of the white house. Not meaning hell be shot, but meaning he would be inpeached. If he trys to do anything now that goes against this country, he wouldnt be able to hide it. He is only one man. Even though hes a democratic, im sure no other dem would fall for a grand skeem plan to destroy the USof A. So you see, that would never happen.

Plus you forget, we might not have the biggest military in the world, but we all have guns over here. Dont think anyones going to be taking over America.........
 girlysmiles1

Joined: 12/11/2007
Msg: 464
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Posted: 4/12/2008 11:33:20 AM
Oh yea our TRUE colors come shining through.
Oh yea our TRUE colors come shining through.

TERRE HAUTE, Indiana - After a full-throated response to criticism that he is condescending, Democrat Barack Obama on Saturday conceded that that comments he made about bitter working class voters who "cling to guns or religion" were ill chosen.

"I didn't say it as well as I should have," he said.

As Obama tried to quell the furor, presidential rival Hillary Rodham Clinton hit him with one of her lengthiest and most pointed criticisms to date.

"Senator Obama's remarks were elitist and out of touch," she said, campaigning about an hour away in Indianapolis. "They are not reflective of the values and beliefs of Americans."

Once an azz always an azz...la la la TRUE colors come shining through


Neither
 Anvilghost

Joined: 3/7/2008
Msg: 465
Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why
Posted: 4/13/2008 2:49:24 PM
I think he said it best the first time. And its true. The truth hurts like hell doesnt it?

True colors come shining through, la la la
 Wheresmydog

Joined: 2/23/2008
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Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why
Posted: 4/13/2008 3:11:23 PM
OK, I know this is old, but just a thought.
How can anyone be involved, truly involved in a church, or 20 + years, and NOT KNOW what the pastor is saying?
JMO but there's only 2 reasons.
#1. You are only there for show, in other words, to impress the neighbors, to make yourself look good, look better than what you really are.
#2. You know exactly what he is saying and AGREE, but will LIE about it when others disagree. GD America RIGHT!!!!. Such a good thing to say about America when you're running for PRESIDENT!
 Anvilghost

Joined: 3/7/2008
Msg: 467
Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why
Posted: 4/13/2008 4:57:20 PM
What his pastor said is all true about America. Like I said the truth hurts. Some people cant handle the truth.

Obama 08
 girlysmiles1

Joined: 12/11/2007
Msg: 468
Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why
Posted: 4/14/2008 10:07:01 AM
If you really believe that what his pastor said is all true...why don't you move to an all muslim country where you can be surrounded by those that just love you good ole US of A boys...esp when they pack their kids with bombs and send them to hug you...
I smell burnt wolf pelt
Seems Obama is getting like his Yo-mama...forgetful...can't remember anything his preacher preached...maybe he did the same thing in church he did in school...slept
Obama-What a loser
Neither
 Anvilghost

Joined: 3/7/2008
Msg: 469
Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why
Posted: 4/14/2008 12:50:36 PM
Dont need to ^^^

He will be the next President. When he does you can move to France

I smell a she wolf and she been eatin cow bum
 girlysmiles1

Joined: 12/11/2007
Msg: 470
Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why
Posted: 4/14/2008 4:44:53 PM
Obama what a loser...

He will be the next President. When he does you can move to France

I smell a she wolf and she been eatin cow bum


Can't do better then that? Figures...shows brain capacity
Neither
 Anvilghost

Joined: 3/7/2008
Msg: 471
Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why
Posted: 4/15/2008 6:35:12 AM
miationa, I agree, if somehow Obama gets beat by Hillary, then ill be voting for her instead off Mccain
 Promiseskeeper

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Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why
Posted: 4/15/2008 12:06:22 PM
I guess it boils down to which is worse, a rattlesnake or a water moccassin. Neither one of those two have character or principles they will not sell for a vote. Hillary looked like an idiot chugging beer and doing shots of whiskey. And what kind of fewl is Barack to go a church where his minister spews so much hate, and say "I never heard him talk like that before." The democrat party suffers because they can not put forth a candidate that possess the cognitive stimuli to engage in an intellctual dialogue without attempting to impugn another's character based on ideological differences.
 Sneaks1957™

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Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why
Posted: 4/19/2008 12:38:37 PM
I received this in the form of an email and it was all in capitol letters....sorry, but it will cause you to think a little about him. I ran this email through "Snopes.com" to verify if the email is legit........the response had this email "NOT" listed among all the political emails that were verified as false. It certainly ask questions and makes points that he has not addressed yet. Don't you love politics!!!

Just a thought,

~Sneaks

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LET ME SEE IF I HAVE THIS STRAIGHT:

HIS FATHER WAS A KENYAN, MOSLEM, BLACK- WE HAVE SEEN PICTURES OF HIS AFRICAN "FAMILY?

HIS MOTHER IS A KANSAN, ATHIEST, WHITE- WHERE ARE THE PICTURES OF HIS KANSAN, WHITE MOTHER AND HIS WHITE GRANDPARENTS WHO RAISED HIM.

HIS FATHER DESERTED HIS MOTHER AND HIM WHEN HE WAS VERY YOUNG
AND WENT BACK TO HIS FAMILY IN KENYA.

HIS MOTHER MARRIED AN INDONESIAN MOSLEM AND TOOK HIM TO JAKARTA WHERE HE WAS SCHOOLED IN A MOSLEM SCHOOL

HIS MOTHER RETURNED TO HAWAII AND HE WAS RAISED BY HIS WHITE KANSAN GRANDPARENTS. HE LATER WENT TO THE BESTHIGH DOLLAR SCHOOLS, HOW?

HE LIVES IN A $1.4 MILLION DOLLAR HOUSE THAT HE ACQUIRED THROUGH A DEAL WITH A WEALTHY FUND RAISER.

HOW?

HE "WORKED" AS A CIVIL RIGHTS ACTIVIST IN CHICAGO - HAS NEVER HELD A PRODUCTIVE JOB. THE PRESIDENCY IS NOT A CIVIL RIGHTS POST NOR IS IT SUBJECT TO AFFIRMATIVE ACTION.

HE ENTERED POLITICS AT THE STATE LEVEL AND THEN THE NATIONAL LEVEL WHERE HE HAS MINIMAL EXPERIENCE.

HE IS PROUD OF HIS "AFRICAN HERITAGE" BUT IT SEEMS THAT HIS ONLY AFRICAN CONNECTION WAS THAT HIS AFRICAN FATHER GOT A WHITE GIRL PREGNANT AND DESERTED HER. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT SPERM CARRIED A "CULTURAL" GENE.

WHERE IS THE PRIDE IN HIS WHITE CULTURE?

HE GOES TO A "AFROCENTRIC" CHURCH THAT HATES WHITES, HATES JEWS, AND BLAMES AMERICA FOR ALL THE WORLDS PERCEIVED FAULTS AND THEN REPEATEDLY COVERS UP FOR THE PASTOR AND THE CHURCH. HE CLAIMS THAT HE COULD NOT CONFRONT HIS PASTOR BUT HE WANTS US TO BELIEVE THAT HE CAN CONFRONT NORTH KOREA AND IRAN, RIGHT!!!

YEAH, I THINK I SEE HOW HE COULD BE A UNITER AND BRING US TOGETHER, I THINK THE HOPE IS THAT HE HOPES NO ONE WILL PUT THE PIECES TOGETHER.
 Anvilghost

Joined: 3/7/2008
Msg: 474
Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why
Posted: 4/19/2008 2:56:15 PM

HE CLAIMS THAT HE COULD NOT CONFRONT HIS PASTOR BUT HE WANTS US TO BELIEVE THAT HE CAN CONFRONT NORTH KOREA AND IRAN, RIGHT!!!


Obama will confront them better then Bush has.

And to tell my real opinion, I think any of them, Obama, Hillary, or even Mccain would do a better job then Bush has.

At this point, I dont care who is elected. I dont really like any of them. But I like Bush even less
 Wheresmydog

Joined: 2/23/2008
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Hillary or Barack: Who Is Your Choice and Why
Posted: 4/19/2008 7:56:10 PM
You may Be right about Mccain doing a better job. Hillary wont, not under the same circumstances. Lets pray that the next president doesn't have to be under the same circumstances BUSH was. we had, what, only 2 presidents that were?
The reason I like Mccain, isn't because he is the republican candidate. He does what he sees as best for the country, and has proven that Party affiliation doesn't mean as much to him. And as far as uniting us goes, he is the best because of that. I am like you, that I am Glad Bush will be gone, although I do not regret voting for him. But His departure right now, thanks to our system, is the best thing.
I dont think another partisan president would be good for this country right now. And only 1 of the 3 candadites I am sure wont be partisan. Mccain.
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