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| If she gave you biracial children?
Posted: 1/24/2007 10:29:44 PM | if she gave me anything less id worry!
anyways you should move to hawaii. weve been cross breeding since the 1800's
for example im 4th generation mix blood and im not even half ANYTHING  
my largest blood quantum is hawaiian and thats a mere 43.75%(which is considered alot for now a days) followed by caucasion at 37.5 with the remaining 18.75 percent going to the chinese ;)
Heh im 3 MAJOR ethnicities as are my parents, face it you guys are living in the stone ages.
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| If she gave you biracial children?
Posted: 1/24/2007 11:09:03 PM | Asian-American women get bent out of shape if white guys assume that because they're Asian, they have certain desirable qualities. I seem to recall from the "Why white guys like Asian women" thread that if we say "Asian women treat their men better", "are slimmer", etc - we get crucified for generalizing.
So how is this any different? Why is it that you meet one fool who thinks the Master Race was a valid concept and now you have to wonder if all white men are like this, or wouldn't want a biracial child (in essence, being racist)?
"All" white men no more have an aversion to people of other races, or having mixed kids, no more or less than "all" Asian women are geisha girls, or "all" black men want to sell out by dating white girls, or any other stereotypical nonsense. If the very idea of "us" stereotyping other races is ridiculous, I don't understand why this, which is itself a stereotype, not just as ridiculous.
I remember that thread. It was a funny thread.
Did I offend you by "wondering if all white men are like this"? I hope not. Being offended would take unnecessary energy on your part, which could be avoided if you'd just try to understand where I'm coming from. I have my bad experience on this subject, and I have heard the bad experiences of women who have gone through the same thing. I've been made aware of a racial heirarchy that has the ability to affect the way some people think of their fellow human beings. These things taken into account, I would be unwise, I think, to enter into a similar situation (ie another relationship with a white man) without wondering what the chances were that the same thing would happen again. Your belief that my ex was "porking" me is what it is, I can't change what you think. But the fact remains that two years is a long time to spend exclusively porking a "mud person" for the sole purpose of exhibiting the superiority of the Master Race. That could have been accomplished with a single f*ck, I think... if all he wanted from me was to prove that he was better because he was white, he certainly committed an excessive amount of time to the process. I grew up with that boy and I knew him for a good person. I know that there was a point in time when he looked at me and saw not an asian, but simply a girl. If he let society influence and change the way he felt about race, then I had to wonder how many others are influenced in a similar way... especially since I've heard other women's stories so similar to mine. This is my curiosity, not my generalization. And I'll admit, this was my way of seeking reassurance that not all white men are like that. Though if someone was to come on and say that yes, all he wanted was full white children, I'd be very interested to hear what he had to say, too.
I think a better question might be for the women. If you got pregnant and the 'man' proceeded to spout BS about "half-breeds" and other related stupidity why would you allow him any influence over your child aside from a monthly cheque? ... At least until he grows up.(the father not the kid)
Hence the "yelling" I referenced in my OP. I told him that he wasn't going on the birth certificate and he wasn't getting any rights if he didn't shape up. And he did. Though I think it was probably Boot Camp more than my yelling that changed him. | |
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| If she gave you biracial children?
Posted: 1/24/2007 11:51:38 PM | First I have to say your EX was a racist supremacist and possibly learned some of his attitude in the Marines.
Me? I am from a different era, and during the 60s and 70s your EXs attitude would be more normal than now.
Also I am a French Canadian whose family has been here for about 250 years, and I know my aunt did some genealogy on the family and found several marriages to First Nations people in the mix.
Right now my second cousin (red headed milk pale Irish stock mostly) has an infant whose father is a 6 foot tall Jamaican and I am wondering just how beautiful the girl will turn out. Her father is a tall quite dark handsome man and her mom is a short redhead. After 2 weeks the odds are that she will be a fine straight black haired tan looking beauty. And it is OK that she will not be American :-)))
If I had not signed on to the peace and love revolution during the 60s, maybe my attitude would be different now?
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| If she gave you biracial children?
Posted: 1/25/2007 3:18:06 AM | ^^^ ~~~"First I have to say your EX was a racist supremacist and possibly learned some of his attitude in the Marines."
I think she made the point very clear that if he wasn't turning away from his supremacist ideas before, then he certainly did when he joined the Marines. Maybe you learned some of your attitude when you joined the 'Peace and Love' movement... | |
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| If she gave you biracial children?
Posted: 1/25/2007 4:24:49 AM | Nice women come in all races, and if I met a nice woman of a different race and I married her, I would have no problem having kids with her.
With the advent of air travel, and different populations gradually mixing all around the world, people of mixed race are becoming much more common. It also adds to genetic variety and healthier people (according to some theories).
As long as both parents have similar values, raising a mixed race kid shouldn't be any problem. | |
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| If she gave you biracial children?
Posted: 1/25/2007 9:46:44 AM | The biggest motivator for racial tension is usually culture and belief. We fear what we don't understand and wish everything to be like our own.
But someone that sleeps with a female of a different race should be prepared for the consequences of that union if it occurs.
I think 'supremacist' types probably view sex with someone of another race as recreational and completely empowering or demeaning depending on how they want to look at it. But they treat other races as if they were animals or lesser beings, rather than fellow human beings so I'm not suprised by their behavior. Just one more belief structure to rule the diluted masses. | |
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| If she gave you biracial children?
Posted: 1/25/2007 11:32:17 AM | Did I offend you by "wondering if all white men are like this"? I hope not. Being offended would take unnecessary energy on your part, which could be avoided if you'd just try to understand where I'm coming from.
I'm not offended (much) - but I don't see how this is any different from any other sort of racial stereotyping. And if it's ridiculous when applied to minorities, it *should* be equally ridiculous when applied to whites.
I have my bad experience on this subject, and I have heard the bad experiences of women who have gone through the same thing. I've been made aware of a racial heirarchy that has the ability to affect the way some people think of their fellow human beings. These things taken into account, I would be unwise, I think, to enter into a similar situation (ie another relationship with a white man) without wondering what the chances were that the same thing would happen again.
This frame of mind could easily be applied to any bad relationship, to be honest - racial differences or otherwise. I've had a few really lousy experiences with young white women and a couple of total hum-dingers with Indians. In fact, I can safely say every Indian woman I've met has been either totally screwed up in the head or a two-faced liar... but I know in the back of my mind that I can't assume that they're all like that, and women of all colors and creeds got terribly incensed by said Asian thread. And I know that if I posted a thread here saying "Hey, Indian gals... what's wrong with you? Tell me the truth, do you all lie so much?", I'd be nailed to the wall because it's a racist generalization.
Your belief that my ex was "porking" me is what it is, I can't change what you think. But the fact remains that two years is a long time to spend exclusively porking a "mud person" for the sole purpose of exhibiting the superiority of the Master Race. That could have been accomplished with a single f*ck, I think... if all he wanted from me was to prove that he was better because he was white, he certainly committed an excessive amount of time to the process.
Not necessarily. For one thing, if you offer a guy regular sex for a couple of years, he's not going to turn it down. You also mentioned that his racist slant was a recent thing, so he may have been confused by the direction his life was taking, and his feelings for you were conflicting with his new-found beliefs (or, beliefs that had always been there but just had never been codified). As a result, he wasn't quite ready to give you up yet, despite being uncomfortable with the whole situation. But, as has been proven many times in the past, men will still bang anything on two legs regardless of how they may feel about it overall.
I also am not implying that power was the sole reason for him continuing to stay with you, but once he fell to the Dark Side, as it were, it was most probably an influence. It's a weird double-standard racists have; they'll take whatever you want to give them, but you're never their equal. Having a child with someone you deem inferior suddenly makes you "equal". Not only that, but it's possible that he succumbed to the pressure from his KKK buddies. They were all for him gettin' some, but a kid? No way no how.
It doesn't make any sense... but then again if it did, racism wouldn't be stupid. Although... as sad as it makes me that you'd turn your back on white men because of a few bad apples, I can't totally dismiss the idea given that I prefer Asian women given my bad experiences with whites.
On a personal note, for a time I wasn't sure if I still loved my wife - we were having some financial difficulties and the strain was immense. But I kept along and stayed with her figuring that the answer would present itself in time. Eventually something happened where I realized "this is it - we can't be together anymore". Same thing with you, probably - this guy wasn't sure, so he just kept along, 'cause why give up a good thing just because you're antsy, right? Then the kid comes and it's like "Whoah, hold up! I can't deal with this! It's over!".
That sort of thing transcends race.
Anyway, all I'm saying is, "white men don't want mixed kids" is no different than "women are gold diggers", "black men want white women", "men are pigs", or any number of a hundred other generalizations. Just because you met a few idiots does not mean we're all goose-steppers - and while I'm not offended that such a belief persists, it does wear on me that it continues to be so pervasive. I could make a few good arguments that the so-called "heirarchy" doesn't benefit whites at all these days, but again... the plural of "anecdote" is not "data", as they say over on Snopes. | |
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| If she gave you biracial children?
Posted: 1/25/2007 6:43:16 PM | | I don't know about guys, but I think mixed woman are hot. Unique facial features, beautiful skin, exotic hair, a mosaic of cultural experiences to share | |
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| If she gave you biracial children?
Posted: 1/26/2007 5:03:55 PM | As a guy that has dated mostly white women, I can say the posts have been interesting to read indeed.
I sometimes ask the white women that I encounter if they ever dated a Negro before, or what is it that they like about us. The answers I get vary, but for the most part, it usually falls within the "you're just so hot" category. The reason why I ask is b/c I've encountered a few white women that sub-consciously or unwittingly implied that I (or any coloured boy for that matter) was a fantasy for her. Now I have no problem helping a lady out with her fantasy(within reason), but considering the sexualization of the black male and the history behind it (probably another thread in itself), it is a little bit disconcerting.
Am I overly sensitive? Yes, but b/c I need to be. Despite our growth and evolution from racist attitudes, those same attitudes shape us today. American (and Canadian-don't believe we're the beacon of freedom you read about in "history" books) white males were notorious for taking on slave mistresses, and fathering them mulattoes, only to abandon them.
I don't date white women b/c I covet them. I date women b/c I covet women. If I'm able to plant my seed, it will be with a woman that I know will be a good lover, friend, and most importantly, mother. And I don't care if that child comes out black like me, with almond eyes, or coffee with cream skin. I just hope I can run a comb thru his/her head! | |
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| If she gave you biracial children?
Posted: 1/26/2007 5:43:25 PM | Hummm, Good thing Tiger Woods parents didn't think that way......
P.S. I am black and white (half breed) myself... | |
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| If she gave you biracial children?
Posted: 1/26/2007 7:37:16 PM | This being the case, I wanted to know how you men honestly feel about this. Would you not want to have babies with me, because the babies would be "half-breeds"?
That whole post was a sad read. The rotten thing is that there are men like this still in the world, however, there is one GOOD thing about it:
They've increased my chances to find someone that will love ME!! Muahahahahaha!!! 
That said, Race doesn't factor into the equation for me.... simply because my family is multi-racial. I'm a mutt. Irish (Gaelic, the majority of my genetic package), English, Danish, Swedish, Native American (Blackfoot), Polynesian.
As for the rest of the family, I have Latino Uncles, Black cousins, and just about every other possible kind of person somewhere.
Strength comes from Diversity, and Love comes wherever it comes from. You never know who it will be, and to reject someone because they look a little different is rediculous.
To reject her for wanting to bear your children because she loves you..... even MORE rediculous! | |
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| If she gave you biracial children?
Posted: 1/26/2007 11:15:54 PM |
I guess this question is directed mainly at white males. Keep in mind that I want HONEST answers. I don't want you sugar-coating it for me, you don't know me anyway, so you don't need to worry. I want to know if the thought of having a biracial child is as repulsive to you as it was for these white males I just described? If a girl I'm attracted enough to to want a relationship wants to have children with me, I just want babies with 10 fingers and 10 toes and a long, healty life. How can I do anything but love the product of myself and a woman I love? | |
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| If she gave you biracial children?
Posted: 1/27/2007 6:24:22 AM | Gheezzz... Seem that there's still racial issues.... Move to Amsterdam and you'll see a completely different world.... No racial issues and frankly I don't see a point dating interracial as well as having interracial kids....
So move to Amsterdam and you'll see a completely different world and you will notice that somewhere in the world it's commonly accepted... .:D | |
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| If she gave you biracial children?
Posted: 1/27/2007 6:47:13 AM | I wouldn't have any problem dating, marrying, having kids with, a woman of a different race. (I'm a city bred white boy myself). That is from my perspective only without considering society or anything else.
That said, I would be concerned if we had kids. Not because of either of us having issues but because of how society can treat mixed race children and minorities at times. I would want the best for my kids and would worry that race and discrimination might make their lives quite difficult.
Tough call.
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| If she gave you biracial children?
Posted: 1/27/2007 7:45:48 AM | As a white girl, i would love to have some mixed race kids, or even just have kids with a father who spoke a different language.
I think its all very beneficial for the kids to have parents with different physical qualities/languages/traditions/etc etc, the benefits are endless. The only problems that arise are in narrow-minded racist societies, such as many parts of USA where such children may be discriminated against by ignorant people who don't know any better. | |
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Joined: 12/27/2006
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| If she gave you biracial children?
Posted: 1/27/2007 8:19:01 AM | | Its really sad to see how ppl are concerned with racial issues when theres so many more important problems that concern all of us. Omg i love kids all kids they tooo cute lol and in more honesty the cutest ones are the "ratially mixed" ones and to be honest i wish more and more ppl have no boundries when it comes to ratial mixing because we are all just humans damn it. This might sounds odd but one day we all gonna be mixed hehe. I have plenty of cultures in me and i wont go looking in the past to see "who i am" because I AM CANADIAN and thats it lol | |
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| If she gave you biracial children?
Posted: 1/27/2007 5:49:44 PM | While I agree with all those who have posted stating that colour shouldn't matter,
unfortunately, there are a lot of bigotted people out there. I have dated several
men of other races, but I might have had a problem with having kids with them, for
one simple reason. Even though it shouldn't matter, to some poeple it does. Life is
difficult enough, when you have everything going for you, it feels somewhat unfair to
deliberately choose to make life harder for your kids. I don't know if it would have
stopped me from having kids with them or not, as the relationships didn't last all that
long (this was over 25 years ago), so I didn't have the opportunity to find out.
Interestingly enough, my best friend's brother stopped seeing me, because I was white.
He wanted his (future) children to be 100% native American. So apparently it isn't a one
gender thing, it can go both ways. | |
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| If she gave you biracial children?
Posted: 1/27/2007 8:39:26 PM | If a guy doesn't want any biracial kids "running around with his name" he shouldn't be dating women from other races. The guy who said that was a total waste of skin.  | |
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| If she gave you biracial children?
Posted: 1/27/2007 9:24:45 PM | I'm kind of in agreement with the poster who talked about dating an American Indian that wanted 100 percent American Indian children.
When it comes to cross-breeding it seems to me that whites are probably the least anal about it. I've dated quite a few Asians who would never have even thought about marrying me simply because I was white. Apparently, for a significant number of Asian women that I dated, I was good enough to go to bed with, but not good enough to make a life with.
The same can be said of a lot of the black women that I've dated, though not to the same extent as the Asians I've gone out with. In fairness though, for both Asians and blacks, it seemed to be more of a concern for offending other members of their particular communities than about a personal agenda.
I think what you're seeing in this thread is proof that white men who have a predisposition against having mixed-race children are a small and unfortunate minority. Fortunately, in this country at least, there's probably a lot more mixed-race children than there are people opposed to them. You just can't fight the rising of the tide forever. | |
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| If she gave you biracial children?
Posted: 1/27/2007 9:33:21 PM | Did you just call it "cross-breeding?"
lol, Dude you just made my day. I think that is really funny. I think "inter-racial relationships" would've been more appropriate. | |
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| If she gave you biracial children?
Posted: 1/27/2007 10:17:59 PM |
I've dated quite a few Asians who would never have even thought about marrying me simply because I was white. Ditto. | |
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| If she gave you biracial children?
Posted: 1/27/2007 10:30:14 PM |
Life is difficult enough, when you have everything going for you, it feels somewhat unfair to deliberately choose to make life harder for your kids.
I can understand that logic. I appreciate that there is a difference between a mindset of "I'll date you (and screw you), but I won't have kids with you because you're not good enough to have them" and a mindset of "I'll date you, but I won't have kids with you because biracials have a difficult time in this society." But at the same time, I believe that if you'd prefer not to have to deal with the added complications that biracial children bring to the table, then you shouldn't get involved with someone outside of your own race. I understand that having a relationship with someone doesn't necessarily mean that you want to have kids with them, but still. If the relationship is sexual, then the possibility of creating a child is there... and if the child is biracial, then he/she deserves to have BOTH parents completely willing to face the extra challenge of raising a biracial child.
I'm kind of in agreement with the poster who talked about dating an American Indian that wanted 100 percent American Indian children. When it comes to cross-breeding it seems to me that whites are probably the least anal about it. I've dated quite a few Asians who would never have even thought about marrying me simply because I was white. Apparently, for a significant number of Asian women that I dated, I was good enough to go to bed with, but not good enough to make a life with.
I started this thread about white males, but I think what I said above should stand no matter what race you are. It doesn't often occur to me to think of this happening the other way around, because like you said, the reasoning behind it is often different. But I can imagine how it can be no less offensive and hurtful despite what the reason is. | |
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| If she gave you biracial children?
Posted: 1/28/2007 12:10:03 AM | "Offensive and hurtful" describe this well indeed. There should be no place for racism in a place like Canada.
We should be able to report them to the police. And yes, this works both ways. I've had an elderly (caucasian) lady in the skytrain say REALLY mean things to me (because of my brown skin!) out of the blue, after she starting a seemingly normal conversation, and for no reason at all. It took me by surprise, she saved up her venom until the train approached her station before lashing out at me with her words.
That had nothing to do with babies, or relationships, but with the fact that she was a racist, period.
Obviously I wasn't impressed with her, but neither was anyone else that heard her - at least I hope not! Nobody came over to say anything to me though, and I didn't make an effort to talk to anyone else either. She ruined my morning, then I got over it, and moved on with my life.
That was from a complete stranger. I can't imagine how offensive and hurtful it could be coming from someone you get to know, befriend, or date!
As you can tell from some other posts, not everyone subscribes to the racist point of view raised in the original message. Easier said than done, but if you can, shrug it off and move on, as fast as you can, at the first sight of racism. | |
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| If she gave you biracial children?
Posted: 1/28/2007 5:44:52 PM | [I can understand that logic. I appreciate that there is a difference between a mindset of "I'll date you (and screw you), but I won't have kids with you because you're not good enough to have them" and a mindset of "I'll date you, but I won't have kids with you because biracials have a difficult time in this society." But at the same time, I believe that if you'd prefer not to have to deal with the added complications that biracial children bring to the table, then you shouldn't get involved with someone outside of your own race. I understand that having a relationship with someone doesn't necessarily mean that you want to have kids with them, but still. If the relationship is sexual, then the possibility of creating a child is there... and if the child is biracial, then he/she deserves to have BOTH parents completely willing to face the extra challenge of raising a biracial child.]- lypiphera
I absolutely agree with you, lypiphera. I didn't even realize I felt this way, until I was
already involved in my first such relationship. It was also one of the primary reasons I
ended it, because I realized that it was very unfair of me, to feel this way, but I didn't
know how to change the way I felt. I told him that he deserved better than I could
offer him. | |
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