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| David DeAngelo - What's his angle?
Posted: 8/25/2007 7:20:07 PM | i guess people should have closer look to his stuff, before making any judgement, i would ask people to go over with his one article i got from net, read and then comment " if he is wrong? a salseman? or he really has some logic?"
I want to share an interesting insight with you that not 1 in 100 men ever realize on their own. It's actually TWO insights, but they're two sides of the same coin.
It's an amazingly OBVIOUS double insight, and once you know what it is, you'll see evidence of it all around you, in every interaction between a man and a woman.
And it goes a little sumthin' like this:
1. Most men behave like WUSSIES when it comes to women and dating.
2. Women NEVER feel the powerful and magical emotion called ATTRACTION for WUSSIES.
So let's take them one at a time.
WHAT exactly IS a WUSSY?
A Wussy is a guy who kisses up to women.
A Wussy is a guy who does whatever a woman wants him to do, and doesn't even know if or when a woman is testing him.
A Wussy is a guy who accepts manipulative behavior from women, and doesn't care if a woman flakes out on him, takes advantage of him, or acts overly dramatic around him.
A Wussy is a guy who has no backbone, and caves when challenged by a woman.
A Wussy is a guy who feels that he needs to BUY or PAY FOR a woman's attention and affection with gifts, dinners, compliments, and other forms of payment and flattery... because he can't imagine that a woman would want to be with him just for HIM.
In short, a WUSSY is a submissive man who tries to compensate for his lack of ability to attract women by being overly accommodating and generous.
NEWS JUST IN: MOST MEN ACT LIKE WUSSIES!
And, if that wasn't bad enough, here's the REALLY bad news: Women will NEVER feel ATTRACTION for this kind of behavior, or this kind of guy!
(If you even doubt what I'm saying for a SECOND, then try this simple test: Find 3 attractive women, and ask them if they ever feel a gut-level ATTRACTION for guys who kiss up to them and act like Wussies, and watch what they say.)
Want some even WORSE news?
When this kind of tactic doesn't work for a guy, he'll usually TRY HARDER, and become even MORE of a WUSSY to make a girl like him... and the more a girl runs away, the more of a WUSSY most guys become.
YOU DO THE MATH and figure out the outcome of this equation.
It totally blows my mind how a guy will kiss up to a woman and watch with HIS OWN TWO EYES as she becomes more and more distant... and instead of him realizing that it's his own WUSS behavior that's causing the woman to run away, he just keeps doing it... AND EVEN INCREASING IT!
And how do I know this so well?
Because I, my friend, used to be a BIG TIME Wuss Bag.
Of course, when I think back about situations in my life where I behaved like a Wuss and caused a woman to lose her attraction for me, I slap my head and say "DUH!"
For whatever reason, it just wasn't obvious to me in the moment.
And, I think that MOST guys go their whole lives without realizing this critical insight.
Let me tell you something else that is VITALLY important for you to remember:
WOMEN HAVE MILITARY GRADE WUSS-DETECTION RADAR SYSTEMS.
Notice that I didn't say "Women are pretty good at figuring out whether or not you're a Wuss".
No no noooooo.
I said that women have MILITARY GRADE WUSS- DETECTION SYSTEMS.
I'm talking special forces/navy seal/top gun/ covert ops here.
I'm talking INSTANT WUSSY DETECTION.
A woman can tell if you're a Wussy, in most cases, BEFORE YOU EVEN OPEN YOUR MOUTH. And if she hasn't figured it out before you open your mouth, she'll DEFINITELY figure it out once you DO open your pie-hole.
So, if women aren't attracted to Wussies, then why is it that they sometimes accept invitations to dinner, gifts, flowers, and attention from guys who are Wussies, only to reject them later on?
Well, think about it.
1. Free food is free food and free gifts are free gifts...I mean, when the price is right, it's right.
2. Women say to themselves, "I really SHOULD date a nice guy instead of all these SEXY JERKS that I've been seeing. I'll let Mr. Girly Man take me out to dinner a few times and maybe I can learn to like him".
3. If a woman doesn't have anything going on at all, dinner with a Wussy and a constant stream of compliments and attention is better than nothing.
4. Men are NOTORIOUS for showing their "non-Wuss" side early on, but then somehow turning into a woman's worst nightmare Wuss Boy as the relationship progresses.
What to do, what to do?
Well, sometimes these things are like a substance abuse problem. The first step is ADMITTING that you've been being a WUSS all your life, and that you were doing the best you could with what you had to work with.
I often make fun of guys who act like Wussies, and bust on them unmercifully... but the fact is that I've been there, and I get it.
Anyhow...
So, step one is accepting yourself as you are and making a commitment to yourself to improve from here on out.
Next, you need to learn how to EVICT your inner Wuss. Then it's time to get down to business and learn how to create that magical feeling called ATTRACTION inside of women.
It's not magic, and it's not voodoo. Making women feel a powerful, gut-level ATTRACTION for you doesn’t require looks or money, and I honestly believe that almost ANY man can learn how to do it.
The amazing part about it is that we all have the NATURAL ability to communicate with women in a way that makes them feel ATTRACTION... but most of us never DEVELOPED this natural skill.
We either didn't have good role models, we were programmed wrong by mom or other well-meaning people in our lives, or whatever.
But just because you haven't yet learned how to use and develop these natural talents doesn't mean that you can't start NOW. | |
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| David DeAngelo - What's his angle?
Posted: 8/25/2007 7:34:21 PM | | Wow,that's really profound stuff.As usual,this kind of motivational crap is so obvious to anyone with half a brain.Imagine the genius of discovering that women don't want to be around someone without an ounce of self respect!...I think I would go one better and say that most people,in general,don't enjoy the company of such people,be it friend,boyfriend,girlfriend,relative etc. | |
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| David DeAngelo - What's his angle?
Posted: 8/25/2007 8:07:07 PM | | its easy to sit here and read it and comment, in real life, we deal with these people, we want them to be that way coz its mre accomodating to us. women want such friendz around them coz they have a feminine side, and prove to be the best friend. do guyz really wanna be best friend or a date and potential mate? theoritically we dont like such people, but practically everyone is dealing with these people direct or indirect way on daily basis. and these guyz need to change themselves. where DDA steps in. | |
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| David DeAngelo - What's his angle?
Posted: 8/25/2007 10:33:31 PM | | Wow mystery..,you must be trying to get a cut from DD..,although I have never read any of his stuff,this must be a quote of some kind..,hardly a mispelled world in msg#51..,but in your above post you couldn't spell right to save your own life..,let alone the use of paragraphs ,or proper grammer for that matter..,.coincidence,I think not ! | |
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| David DeAngelo - What's his angle?
Posted: 8/26/2007 4:47:09 AM | dreww, before you rip into people for something as petty as grammar, use of paragraphs, or spelling, you should read the post. Mystery says at the start of the post that it is an article from David DeAngelo.
The internet is full of people who use typing shortcuts (eg. cuz, ne1, L33t, etc.). Also, those people who are not as gifted as you in the use of the english language, but why make fun of those people just for that? Mystery could be one of the greatest people you could ever know.
Good job! (that was obvious sarcasm, by the way)
wow I think I'm cranky this morning. I need a coffee | |
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| David DeAngelo - What's his angle?
Posted: 8/26/2007 5:15:04 AM |
let alone the use of paragraphs ,or proper grammer for that matter..,.coincidence,I think not !
buahaha ...again we have the spelling police picking apart people's posts.
If you are going to do such a trivial thing, please please please spell GRAMMAR correctly.
I agree with bat, this is the internet, those of us who have been around it since it's inception know that the main object was/is to get your objective across in a fast manner. As long as the person receiving your message understood what is typed to them, it was/is all good!
OT: I don't usually put much stock into someone else's experience with the opposite sex, and are they ever really experts on the subject? To me it is someone who wrote a book on a subject, period. | |
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| David DeAngelo - What's his angle?
Posted: 8/26/2007 5:29:16 AM | Sorry to bring this up. I'm not being the spelling nazi here, just, well, I find this humourous and need to know - why put a "z" on the end of words instead of the "s" that belongs there? It's not a shortcut of any kind. It involves exactly the same number of keystrokes. So why do it? I mean, if you're in grade school, fine. But if you're an adult trying to get a point across, even on an internet forum, using non-words like "friendz" and "guyz" makes you come off as, well, less than serious about your point. Which is counter-productive, is it not?
Here's a little tip - most grown-up women think that men who use high-school-inspired internet slang aren't relationship-worthy.
Now give me my million bucks for pointing out the bleeding obvious.
ETA: one more thing - if people are going to force the grammatically correct among us to read through pages and pages of ridiculous internet slang, then those same people had better be prepared for the odd "spell out the damn word, you're not in the sixth grade" type of post. Fair's fair. | |
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| David DeAngelo - What's his angle?
Posted: 8/26/2007 6:10:21 AM | Why does it matter so much if someone uses "internet slang" on of all places the internet. I mean you got the point of his post, perhaps not all of us conform to your nazi like strictness to grammar rules. Does grammar actually exist in a proper format.. of course your going to say yes ut does, but if you think about it, who thought it up and why is it that what they said is to be "proper" grammar & the use of... the only correct way of using grammar(can there be no give to the rules of grammar or the making up of new words and alternate spellings of). As for them being non-words(friendz and guyz etc), they are actually words as you can read them and understand what they imply/mean. Perhaps he didn't have his 10th cup of Java for the day so mistakenly used "Z"s instead of "S"s. Me, I'm a firm believer of if you understand what the users point is then that is all that really matters.
Just my 7cents worth.
Tim
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| David DeAngelo - What's his angle?
Posted: 8/26/2007 11:12:19 AM | i seriously feel pity on some people here. those orthodox teachers, for me english is fairly new language, i have been speaking it for 3 yrs only. people instead of doing your spell check and grammer check, pay attention on what somebody has to say.
i dont understand why these females are so much stuck up with only language? you can not ignore someone's genius insight because of internet slang. grow up ladies, its still not too late for you. start evaluating person's genuine qualities. | |
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| David DeAngelo - What's his angle?
Posted: 8/26/2007 11:20:30 AM | also, if you people are so concern about education/ knowledge
i have 3 repuated degrees, including engineering and commerce from good universities. just english is not my first language ( infact its my 4th ), you can not put me as an ignorant person.
now if you think DDA doesnt have proper education, his real name is Eben Pagan.
he is not only Dating Guru, he is world class business advisor. check his business site
www.getaltitude.com
no i am not getting cut from anyone. the reason i am favoring this guy is , he deserves respect for all his work. some people ( men ) here against him because they can not admit their weakness or insecurities what he ask you to fix first. females always like to be in control. they just can not accept the fact that someone is out there, who knows how to deal with their girly tests and games.
i think people here has enouh age and experience but maturity level is really low. | |
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| David DeAngelo - What's his angle?
Posted: 8/26/2007 12:33:31 PM | Mystery, will you rent that apartment already, it seems to be making you a tad uptight!
And not many would pick on you seeing that English is not your first language, and we all know it is the hardest one to learn!
Also I do not have to respect someone because they wrote a book or twelve. Do I? | |
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Joined: 6/1/2007
Msg: 64 | |
| David DeAngelo - What's his angle?
Posted: 8/26/2007 1:09:16 PM | Honestly, people. If English isn't your first language, fine. I'm pretty sure, though, that you know "guys" isn't spelled with a "z". It's not your knowledge of English (or lack thereof) that many of us find amusing. It's the whole idea of making a word incorrect not to save time or keystrokes, but just for the sake of making it incorrect. Again, if you were in 9th grade, I could understand your need to try to fit in to a certain group...
Internet slang is, for the most part, just plain laziness in my opinion. And I am fully entitled to my opinion. I am not only entitled to it - I am also entitled to state it in a forum.
I've never in my life seen a group of people so ready to fight for their right to make themselves look less bright than they are. 
By the way, ocean, the problem with your grade school internet slang is that we can't see through it to get to the real point of what you're saying. You tell us (sorry, I'm giggling as I say it because, well, it's pretty lame but nonetheless) to "pay attention to what someone has to say", but what we're saying is we can't see through the freaking slang to get to what the hell it is you're trying to say. I'm sorry that I can't say it any more plainly than that.
If you don't get it, then you don't get it... but while you're on your mission to become "better with the ladies" (giggling again), you might want to add this one to your list:
People who write clearly and properly sound like they know what they're talking about. Those who talk as though they're sending a text to their junior high buddy sound like, well, someone in junior high.
It's totally up to you how you wish to portray yourself.
Also the whining doesn't help. But that's a whole different story. I'm sure David D. covers that in one of his chapters.
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| David DeAngelo - What's his angle?
Posted: 8/26/2007 2:42:03 PM | ^^ "I've never in my life seen a group of people so ready to fight for their right to make themselves look less bright than they are."
OMG 1cc, I'm trying to behave these days--and then you have to go and throw out a zinger like that!
Thanks for nuttin, sistah! (that's not internet slang, btw, that is an attempt at casual familiarity  ) | |
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| David DeAngelo - What's his angle?
Posted: 8/26/2007 3:10:54 PM | | Harking back to an earlier post and to be a pain in the backside, I just wanted to point out that Hitler also wrote a book. Can't say I have much respect for him. | |
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| David DeAngelo - What's his angle?
Posted: 8/26/2007 5:34:49 PM | So instead of pointing out the correct spelling of two words, you yourself act the part of a child not an adult and berate this person you do not know based upon his use of the letter z instead of the letter s.. interesting. Oh and then comment about people so ready to fight, but yet you never mention peoples propensity to be a **** about something so minior that it shouldn't even of been brought up on this thread as it is totally off topic, talking about hijacking a thread if I ever did see an attempt.
Perhaps we all should be so mature and correct as you to make fun of people we don't know, call them names in a public forum to perhaps raise our self to a status we are not entitled to(maybe to make our selfs feel so much better thenan we currently do), you so much better then we, you so highly educated, you so proper in all ways of grammer, you so much of a **** it's unbelieveable that you made such a big deal about this two very minor typings. To me it reaks of misdirected anger from somekthing wrong in your personal life that you need to take it out (again) on people you don't even know.
Or maybe, just maybe you need another fix of coffee to calm yourself down.
Tim | |
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| David DeAngelo - What's his angle?
Posted: 8/26/2007 5:47:16 PM | hey Rooster,
you're right, i guess its pointless to discuss with them, ladies can never accept that no matter they 're good looking, highly educated or smart, but outthere someon e has figure out their psychology and someone has figure out how to push their attraction buttons. 1cc you might blame me that i am trying to improve my chance with ladies. sure, afterall you're free for your perception but atleast it has made me much better deal with all those dirty girly games. now instead of feeling confuse , i feel like laughing when a girl try to play a game or try to test me. and its not only me, i could say us.
all those ladies who believe themselves extra smart about this topic without even reading a book or going over its audio/video series, DDA infact ask people to respect women. none of his idea ever ask to play with women emotion or to use them. all he ask guys to work on their innergame. gives step by step instruction to crack this puzzle. i see him as a motivational speaker than a dating guru because his half of the material is entirely based emotional science. | |
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| David DeAngelo - What's his angle?
Posted: 8/26/2007 5:52:38 PM | Oh Rooster. Get over yourself. Talk about needing to calm oneself down.
I find it interesting that you took absolutely no interest in this thread until someone, god forbid, made mention of grammar. In case you missed it, the whole topic of this thread, or at least what it evolved into, was that you'd think people would be able to use common sense when dealing with members of the opposite sex. You'd think they wouldn't have to read these things in a book.
In keeping with that topic, I stated that people don't show themselves in their best light when they deliberately misspell words, especially when they're trying to make a serious point; Perhaps if they took the time to choose their words a little more carefully, people would take them a little more seriously.
I was totally on topic, and was expressing an opinion. You, on the other hand, chose to call me a **** for doing so.
If someone doesn't ever want to be called on something, then that person should never post in an internet forum. That I understand.
What I did not expect was to be called something so rude it got "***"'d out.
You, my friend, are out of line. | |
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| David DeAngelo - What's his angle?
Posted: 8/26/2007 6:17:22 PM | What I find odd is that it was said that mystery's point could not be figured out through all of the crap ghetto leet net crap he is talking. I have only found a few words in this thread and those are the ones that you said have "z" on them. No biggy, I understood what he was trying to say. But the net is becoming flooded with people who type EVERYTHING like that. look through the profiles and it's almost everyone under 25 who uses net slang and all that. It's becoming the norm. I once heard that school gardes have dropped somewhere over in europe because of everyone using net speak and shortcuts to write out term papers. The younger generations are using it more readily. I can barely read it when it's an entire paper, profile, whatever.
But, I did find his a little hard to get through but that is because of his lack of experience with teh English Language. I figured it out, yeah it took me a little longer, but I figured it out.
And I use some substitutions for words so that they don't get censored out, like s in $hit or or even sh1t.
As for Mr. DeAngelo, I've actually read through his stuff and, while not necessarily directly giving me better success with ladies, he actually helped me to boost my own confidence and just not really worry about what other people think. "I know I have friends who like me for me, so there's gotta be something great about me, now how can I exploit that and use it to be great? Well, I know I rock, and so should you." that was basically it. I do have myself an incredible girlfriend right now so maybe it was an indirect influence. Only difference is was I was myself, a new confident sure as shit myself, yeah, but just myself. I didn't have to fake to be some guy who was not a wuss or to be the c0ck of the walk. | |
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| David DeAngelo - What's his angle?
Posted: 8/26/2007 6:36:33 PM | hey batmeister
you're right, even DDA never teaches people to exploit, just boost your confidence, dont worry too much what people have to think and live your life with your own terms. | |
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| David DeAngelo - What's his angle?
Posted: 8/26/2007 6:38:18 PM | Hmmm..gotta agree with 1cc....how hard is it to hit the 's' instead of the 'z'??? Crap!! There right next to each other!! A mistake...once..yes...twice or more...No!
I can understand using shorthand/internet slang to speed things up when chatting online(I hate chatting to women because they type to darn fast!), but when you have time to review what you wrote (eg. a profile, thread post), why not put the effort in to hit the 's'? 
OT: Never read the book. | |
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| David DeAngelo - What's his angle?
Posted: 8/26/2007 7:07:05 PM | I am by far not out of line actually... I've done nothing you haven't done already .. and that Ladies and gentlemen is attack someone.. for no good reason..well ok mine was to defencd and yours well why again was it a big deal for him to use net-slang on of all places the net?
I had no interest in posting to this thread(until now) and I have never read any of his books(reason why I haven't posted before in here), but I do read threads even though I do not post in them. And when I seen somone who was b itched out for something as minor as using netspeak/slang... yes I felt compled to post, just as I did a while back when someone b itched out this girl for asking about downloading musis and where to get it the guy went off on her as I seen you did for this Mystery guy...(and I chose to defend her as I have Mystery Dude)
You want people to act like adults but you can go ahead and try and tear someones "typing' apart and you yourself be seen as an adult, I merely treated you with the same contempt you showed Mystery Guy, but I guess it's wrong to treat people the way they treat others, and it's ok to tear someone apart and be an adult but not be an adult because you type guys as guyz.
Tell me when has anyone here seen me b itch someone out for no good reason, I can tell you when, never. I call people out on things when i see it and feel I should react, but you won't see me blame it on my lack of caffine, as when I say something I owen up to it and stick to my guys unless proved otherwise.
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| David DeAngelo - What's his angle?
Posted: 8/26/2007 8:16:45 PM | | people, ladies, thread is about david deangelo, not about typing mistake. or grammer. so take it easy. loosing temper over someone's grammer mistake??? is it the maturity of adult age? mature people never loose their composure. evaluate things neutrally. Ladies if you;re not agree with DDA material, you're free for your thinking, just express your opinion in a respectful way. it seems like some people need to grow up. even wussie or less confident guy will never consider to date a short sighted women who can not think out of the box. | |
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| David DeAngelo - What's his angle?
Posted: 8/26/2007 8:30:59 PM | I just don't get it when people can't take the time to review their posts! There's no race. No one is sitting there waiting for a response!! Just do a quick review before you hit Post!! Any type of intelligence will see any typos!!!
OT: Did I mention I never read the book? | |
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