| David DeAngelo - What's his angle?
Posted: 3/23/2008 1:39:10 PM | I never bought the books but saw him on TV once and have seen the attitude you are referring to. Maybe its just me, but I found the amount of men willing to call women "b*tches" and "wh*res" seems to be growing too.
I think that particular trend is coming toward it's perigee, if you will. The truely Good men are getting irritated with it - and so are a lot of females, too; you're proof. And we outnumber them by a very large margin...they won't put up much of a fuss about it. ;) | |
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| David DeAngelo - What's his angle?
Posted: 3/28/2008 10:45:46 PM | The primary function of David DeAngelo and a few others in the dating self help scene is one thing REVERSE PSYCHOLOGY.
And it does work.
Since I am very fluent in his work and know him personally I will tell you one thing about his work. His personal guide is for his personal type of girl he is attracted to.
Beyond that, David DeAngelo uses the Napoleon Hill method of success applied to dating.
This means he incorporates a master mind group mentality so that there are numerous choices and styles to choose from including advice from women.
And, as a generalization, let's face it, Cosmopolitan and all those other like books are loaded month after month with Dating advice tips.
And for some of the women out there I can't see how they could complain about men getting dating advice. In many cases it is to their benefit. Because some of the first things it teaches men is to dress better. Get healthier. Develop confidence. So on and so forth.
I don't think anyone in the genre wants these men to be women haters, or women beaters, but let's face it, women like to be man-handled as disturbing as that may seem. Take a look at Gone With The Wind. I found the scene where Butler forces himself on her to be quite disturbing, even more disturbing was how satisfied Scarlet was afterwards. Maybe I'm overly sensitive. | |
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| David DeAngelo - What's his angle?
Posted: 3/29/2008 6:54:19 PM | cw and bubbleboy I respect your opinions and your perspectives on DD. Just keep in mind, as students of DD we have a tendency to defend DD because we have either read his book and tested it out in the field and/or have gone through his programs and have tested them. If we believed his programs to be total crap we would not defend them like we do. I agree at times I do sound like a poster child for defending DD and I really do not mean to. lol If we did not believe they contained invaluable information to help improve men we not defend them like we do. It would be like someone taking sides against or for abortion. People who believe in abortion will argue passionately for it and those that do not believe in abortion will argue passionately against. I think the key in any disagreement is to respect the other's point of view and to never take it person nor get personal.
I think as DD students some of us get aggravated if we read posts from people who have never gone through his programs before and they are saying that DD is trying to teach men to trick women. Maybe that is something I can use for introspection in the sense that no matter how well one's argument is (backed up evidence) you can not get everyone to agree with you. I have argued for David D several occasions on this board and will leave it be. One can never make another person change their viewpoints regardless of how persuasive a argument is nor how correct one thinks their side is. I remember working with Juveniles for several years and regardless how hard you tried to get them to stop being in gangs or doing criminal activates you could not.
Thank you, as I have just learned something new today. Have a fantastic day and best wishes. On to other forums and life in general. | |
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| David DeAngelo - What's his angle?
Posted: 3/29/2008 9:33:42 PM | It is not about opinions, it is about ethics. There is no way you can argue that what your patron saint DD ( who sounds more like a small A under the circumstances ) and what he preachs has any redeeming social value. I don't respect either one of you or what you have to say given what I have read about your "personal friend". You are not fooling anyone with the shill lines, certainly not most of the men on this forum.
PS: You sound more like a couple of scientologists trying to recruit new members to the cult. Perhaps you should work on the speech part and just give it a rest.
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| David DeAngelo - What's his angle?
Posted: 3/30/2008 3:01:11 AM | | bubble boy: I have to agree with you. These pro DD statements sound kind of zealot like and actually are scaring me a little bit. Deprogramming people is a very difficult task. Suddenly his personal friend is in my little thread trying to quickly diffuse any negative opinions and prevent people from thinking ill of thier god (and trust me, despite what they say, to follow someone this closly and believe everything that they say means they are your "god". This is a form of worship.) The problem here is that if there are any points that DD makes that are constructive, they are just common sense statements on social behavior, but he's taking people's money for it. | |
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| David DeAngelo - What's his angle?
Posted: 3/30/2008 6:54:40 AM |
One can never make another person change their viewpoints regardless of how persuasive a argument is nor how correct one thinks their side is.
That's going to be the case here. Both sides are going to go back and forth but nobody's viewpoint is going to change.
Just accept that!!!! Hell, nobody's being killed!!! | |
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| David DeAngelo - What's his angle?
Posted: 4/16/2008 2:58:51 PM | | I hate to say it but ,lately Ive been noticing that alot of what he's been saying is true.Want to ruin a relationship??Tell her you like her lol.Want her to follow you around like a little puppy dog??Hang up the phone on her lol..its too funny but,it works.I don't use his "system" but in the course of a so called "normal" relationship with its ups and downs,Ive noticed these things and,they tend to go pretty much as he says in his books.His videos are hilarious.He seems like a funny guy..a bit arrogant but,thats what he preaches about as well.Cocky,arrogant..confident..I think alot of us could use these qualities..women as well. | |
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