| Why do people try and live off of minimum wage?
Posted: 4/19/2005 6:15:19 PM | | Hey Listen MajMike: I had no idea you were going to get all upset like this because you looked bad on a message board thread. You really ought to calm down. You're getting kinda out of it. (would someone please reconnect this guy's frontal lobe or hang a jacket on him? PULLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEze?) | |
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| Why do people try and live off of minimum wage?
Posted: 4/19/2005 6:15:45 PM |
Something new, congratulations Elwood, now instead of just calling people who point out your dishonesty or disagree with you uninformed or ignorant it seems they must need to be "off their meds" as well. Not very original, but neither is "you're stupid" either, I guess you're just a man who likes the tried and true.
Since I know I am on schedule with my meds I guess the mistake must be on your end, and that would explain a h*ll of a lot of your posts, as well as your inability to understand when your views have been thoroughly discredited or shown to be outright lies.
I would hate to be seen as picking on a man with medical issues, so I ask that you maintain your medication regimen both for your own health and to keep your debate from devolving into the derision trap again. Prozac, it's not just for breakfast anymore.
MajMike
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| Why do people try and live off of minimum wage?
Posted: 4/19/2005 7:27:29 PM | During the FDR Administration, Corporations paid roughly 60% of the total income taxes collected in this country. Under the rule of the Neo-Cons the burden has been shifted to individual taxpayers. The Corporations presently only pay 16% of the total.
The U.S. Economy was healthy and growing in leaps and bounds 40 years ago. Incomes were rising..as was the standard of living for American workers. More people were entering the Middle Class than were falling into poverty. The opposite is true today.
Forty years ago....a job paying just above minimum wage most often provided Medical Insurance that was sufficient to actually protect a family from bankruptcy or not being treated. Forty years ago 35% of American workers were Union. Today less than half that number is Union.
Yea, we've come a long way... But in what direction? | |
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| Why do people try and live off of minimum wage?
Posted: 4/19/2005 7:45:35 PM | What's a matter, can't deal with your own tactics thrown back at you? I'm not upset, I just refuse to let you get away with your deceits and denials.
I'm sorry if you feel like a bug in a spotlight, but you brought it on yourself. We've been at it now for several pages worth, and you have not owned up to any of the errors pointed out to you and you still insist that anyone not covinced Bush us evil is "very uninformed or very ignorant".
Oh grow up mr "gun gun"
I assume this was supposed to be a new stab at derision, but while my views on the 2nd Amendment are well known that is not the subject at hand. Once again, we see the 'switch the topic' tactic (following derision) instead of a response of merit, the status quo continues.
I will stop when you admit that you sometimes make mistakes, that people can disagree with you and not be called "very uninformed or very ignorant", and that you sometimes overstate your case when trying to make a point. Very simple concepts.
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| Why do people try and live off of minimum wage?
Posted: 4/19/2005 8:33:35 PM | | MajMike, don't feed the troll. Elwood has shown over and over that he's not here for debate, or even to discuss things. His sole intent is to annoy people, and incite flames. When he doesn't have people to argue with, then he scuttles back underneath his bridge. | |
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| Why do people try and live off of minimum wage?
Posted: 4/19/2005 8:42:00 PM | | MajMike: no... I won't indulge your pettiness or wrong headedness to appease you. You're making wild false accusations because I bring up realities that are inconsistent with your philosophies.... so that's the way you are. That's the price I pay for not rolling over. I'm used to it. No problemo. | |
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| Why do people try and live off of minimum wage?
Posted: 4/20/2005 7:40:02 AM | Okay, I have decided to treat you as I do the 6 year old who lives across the street. She fibs a lot and then makes up wild stuff to support the fibs, and I have learned that when one lives in a fantasyland that to change that is to rearrange their whole world. Children have to mature before that happens, and from your example I can see that not all make it.
If it's 'petty' and 'wrongheaded' to ask folks to acknowledge their mistakes then I plead guilty.
I will bring my requests down to one, do you believe the following?
ME:. . people who don't see Bush as evil are not 'stupid, fascist war-mongers' . . .
Elwood: . . they either very uninformed or are very ignorant...
If you do then the prosecution rests, because you have admitted that anybody who doesn't agree with you must live in a cave or be unable to comprehend reality (i.e. stupid). Exactly what I have been saying, case closed.
If not, then you have made a statement that needs to be retracted, another issue I have been trying to get you to acknowledge. Do you retract the statement?
If so, then I applaud your maturity and thank you for finally admitting you can overstate you position sometimes. Checkmate.
Which shall it be?
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| Why do people try and live off of minimum wage?
Posted: 4/20/2005 7:44:42 AM | | I certainly will NOT retract the statement. I've proved it time and again. Whatever you do doesn't depend on me. Accept responsibility for YOUR own childishness. That's the best advice I can offer, big guy. | |
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| Why do people try and live off of minimum wage?
Posted: 4/20/2005 9:05:24 AM | Aha, when pinned in the corner we see the real person, a man who admits that it is his belief that everyone who disagrees with him either lives in a cave or is stupid. In fact, according to him he has "proved it time and again". What a silly little man.
The only thing you have proved is my contention for the last several pages of posts, that you are so biased that you believe anyone who doesn't share your beliefs is either
"uninformed or very ignorant". Thank you for conceeding the point.
MajMike
p.s. to Avatar
I don't have a problem with him being here, in fact I welcome opposing points of view. My problem is with the way he does it, I won't rehash it here but the last several pages will explain it quite nicely. | |
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| Why do people try and live off of minimum wage?
Posted: 4/20/2005 9:10:44 AM | Avatar: I do appreciate your support. Although I do feel I've become a target here, it restores at least some of my faith in idealism that one who takes an adverserial position on many issues can at least see the value in debating with one who will hold positions they believe in and not cave in to threats and intimidation.  | |
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| Why do people try and live off of minimum wage?
Posted: 4/20/2005 9:34:04 AM | | Sides if Americans are so riled up about taxes why don't they pressure thier government to stop all the pork barrel expenditures. Farm aid comes to mind. How does it make sense to subsidize farmers to grow food? | |
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| Why do people try and live off of minimum wage?
Posted: 4/20/2005 11:03:54 AM |
Sides if Americans are so riled up about taxes why don't they pressure thier government to stop all the pork barrel expenditures. Farm aid comes to mind. How does it make sense to subsidize farmers to grow food?
What nobody ever tells you is that one of the ways deficit spending is done is by taking money for other things out of the social security system and paying it back with interest... BUT the money's not in there, nonetheless.
THIS is why the fund is so "broke" this year, yet it will continue to pay out until 2040 at the current rate...it's got "securities" from the HUMONGOUS deficits being run up by the Bush administration and any other administration that has had deficit spending. So now we've got this asset rich, cash poor system and the politicians want to redirect it's assets. Does that tell you anything?
We also redirect income in the form of tax money on things that mainly benefit rich people, like airports, heliports, boat docking facilities and research data for private industry. We spend WAY more on those things than welfare for poor people, so is this a legitimate beef, or are we just kicking people when they're down? | |
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| Why do people try and live off of minimum wage?
Posted: 4/20/2005 11:08:55 AM | When someone says "what no one ever tells you", what they really mean is 'what I am about to say makes no sense and has absolutely no validation whatsoever but I believe it anyway'...
You're right BDM, most of us do think that. Every once in a while it's entertaining to drop a crumb under the bridge and watch the flurry of action take place amidst the grunts and squeals though...
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| Why do people try and live off of minimum wage?
Posted: 4/20/2005 11:17:36 AM | | *AHEM* So Watchman: are you going to make the argument that the federal government doesn't borrow money out of the Social Security System for other expenditures not pertaining to the system itself? | |
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| Why do people try and live off of minimum wage?
Posted: 4/20/2005 8:43:58 PM | Hal: tell ONE "outright lie" Michael Moore told? just ONE?
NOT something where he was questioning someone and got some bad info....
Just ONE outright lie. Like the kind Bush told and kept telling about WMD's even after ex-ambassador Wilson told him the story about Saddam seeking Nukes in Nigeria was a lie. | |
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| Why do people try and live off of minimum wage?
Posted: 4/22/2005 12:58:33 PM |
Forty years ago 35% of American workers were Union. Today less than half that number is Union.
You say union like it's a good thing. Want to know why the percentage of those working in unions has declined so greatly? They priced themselves out of work. This is especially true of the USWA and UMWA. Extortionist, terrorist organizations if you ask me. And I'm in a union. | |
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| Why do people try and live off of minimum wage?
Posted: 4/22/2005 1:09:25 PM | Hal: Don't bother to list a "SET" OF LIES.. you still haven't been able to name ONE "outright lie".
You can call anyone "sensationalist". You're just saying he's exagerrating the importance of some facts over others and that has nothing to do with lying...
Keep looking, or I'll think you've got a "short circuit" | |
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| Why do people try and live off of minimum wage?
Posted: 4/23/2005 12:06:02 PM |
A scene early in the movie that shows newspaper headlines related to the legally contested presidential election of 2000 included a shot of The Pantagraph's Dec. 19, 2001, front page, with the prominent headline: "Latest Florida recount shows Gore won election."
The paper says that headline never appeared on that day. It appeared in a Dec. 5, 2001, edition, but the headline was not used on the front page. Instead, it was found in much smaller type above a letter to the editor, which the paper says reflects "only the opinions of the letter writer."
"If [Moore] wants to 'edit' The Pantagraph, he should apply for a copy-editing job," the paper said.
Lions Gate Entertainment did not immediately return phone calls seeking comment Friday
If that's the best excuse you can make for saying he told an "outright lie".... then u got it.... but it's VERY STRONGLY eclipsed by the amount of truth in the film... | |
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| Why do people try and live off of minimum wage?
Posted: 4/25/2005 5:23:10 AM |
And the first time one of those service providers did not come and save your sorry ass BowMuk you'd be yelling the loudest.
Aren't they PAID all that money to "protect and serve" the public? | |
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