| when is it okay to use crack cocaine?
Posted: 2/3/2007 3:34:01 PM | Considering that the negative effects of drugs tend to be more in the medium or long term, I would have no problem experimenting with hard drugs in the later stages of life.
I'm not sure about crack cocaine but I would be willing to try regular clean cocaine, LSD, Acid, mushrooms, etc. when I am an old man. | |
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| when is it okay to use crack cocaine?
Posted: 2/4/2007 1:58:56 AM | Bah there are better things to do than drugs that fudge you up, even in old age.
No to the psycho drugs out there!
Go watch the new movie "A Scanner Darkly" | |
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| when is it okay to use crack cocaine?
Posted: 2/4/2007 2:35:00 AM | Administering crack cocaine to the terminally ill would ease their pain by causing death. Cocaine sends the heart into such overdrive that people in this kind of weakened state would likely suffer a massive heart attack. Morphine or Demerol are much better choices, particularly for those with high blood pressure.
Lets not forget, that keeping stocks of a substance like crack in hospitals would likely make them targets for armed robbery by jonesing crack addicts. | |
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| when is it okay to use crack cocaine?
Posted: 2/6/2007 2:33:49 PM | congratulations
this is the stupidest thing I've read on these forums to date..... give crack to the terminally ill....you can't seriously believe this. | |
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| when is it okay to use crack cocaine?
Posted: 2/6/2007 9:57:32 PM | ........................................................
Thats all you guys get with my response to crack cocaine.....
Enjoy!
Why not go out on a sugar high :P
take care!  | |
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| when is it okay to use crack cocaine?
Posted: 2/7/2007 9:14:56 AM | Well, actually, I'm not suggesting it. I'm just wondering about people's experiences with the high and whether they would think that feeling suitable at life's ending. I don't have enough experience with crack myself to say whether it is the kind of feeling I would like to have as I am exiting this world.
The point of the article was that it would produce a euphoria and lessen people's anxiety about dying. The general feeling here seems to be that it is too intense a feeling and wouldn't be comfortable to experience on the way out.
I guess going out asleep is the best we have to offer.
(Then again, lots of people prefer to be asleep rather than be politically, environmentally or socially aware. ) | |
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| when is it okay to use crack cocaine?
Posted: 2/7/2007 11:31:37 AM | i would say that if you had a terminal illness and you didn't want to suffer as much, it would be ok.
but a healthy person just taking it for fun? no that isn't right. | |
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| when is it okay to use crack cocaine?
Posted: 2/7/2007 11:49:38 AM | Hey! take a good look at any crackhead! ...They're already the walking dead!!
Not a good idea, besides... how could I get my hands on your checkbook or stereo if Im on my deathbed?
I agree with bubbles! ...wack me out good, make me all happy and I'll be ready to go
....and with alittle good timing & some smooth talk'n, you could even end up in my will -lol | |
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| when is it okay to use crack cocaine?
Posted: 2/15/2007 9:05:48 PM | "Relatives of the stricken patient were pleased, too, at the new-found look of spiritual peace and happiness suffusing the features of a loved one as (s)he prepared to meet his or her Maker. "
a drug induced euphoria is more like it lady...if someone is terminally ill...lets say with cancer...they are usually so doped up on morphine that anything else they could take would be redundant...not only that the crack could cause their hearts to over amp and they could die of a heart attack...
crack cocaine is a recreational drug...pure cocaine was once used as a pain killer...there must be a reason they stopped using it and opted for morphine instead huh?...
you choose your words very carefully i noticed...too bad the thought process preceeding the words was not done with the same care...i hope when my time comes i dont have a health care "professional" like you anywhere near me... | |
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| illegal drugs support crime
Posted: 2/16/2007 1:02:24 AM | I commend your efforts to take some steps towards having [**some** control in a situation where uncertainty abounds, but to buy illegal drugs means
1) to support crime [do you want to give money to criminals? risk getting mugged/stalked?]
2) you can't trust what you're getting; cops have seized lots of drugs that are laced with some very nasty stuff
3) you can't know the effect it will have on the "patient"...some people may get high, some get low. Some flashbacks may be fun, and some may be terrifying.
4) someone who normally gets high off a drug, may all of sudden get a bad reaction from it. [One person took 1/2 an ectasy pill and had a good time; but when he later took the other half, he had a reaction]. The patient may end up worse than before, and medical interventions to help may be less predictable because of that drug experiment.
I'd suggest looking into legal stuff, and stuff that's been tested ... look at terminal treatments for other diseases on national institute of health www.nih.gov and other reputable sites. I recall that marjuana is prescribed medically for some patients, and I'll bet their source for it is home-grown or controlled somehow to take the criminal element out. Other countries may have done more studies than we have...have you checked out Holland/Amsterdam sites? [remember, you have to find REPUTABLE sites]. Have you checked out sites from states that do euthanasia legally, like Oregan? or googling Dr Kevorkian or other "right-to-die" sources? because, they may have treatments before the final treatment that are interesting.
Finally I'm curious how the rest of this person's support system will react to your well-meaning interventions/suggestions. | |
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Joined: 1/26/2007
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| when is it okay to use crack cocaine?
Posted: 2/16/2007 4:31:24 AM | Would you give a palliative person crack cocaine to ease their way into the great beyond?
Let me think about this....No, NO with a side order of Never.
I'm wouldn't want their blood on my hands. But that's just my opinion. | |
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| when is it okay to use crack cocaine?
Posted: 2/16/2007 5:38:09 AM | | NEVER ! especially when your watching a family member killing their self on it,and ther is sweet f..... all you can do to stop them.............yes maybe if somebody is in agony and at the end of their life, none of it makes sense if it was`nt around nobody could use it. | |
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| when is it okay to use crack cocaine?
Posted: 2/20/2007 1:48:07 PM | | Interesting thought, but I'd have to agree with most of the posters here... if I were dying, please, don't give me an upper!!!! A good ol' fashioned morphine drip will take away the pain, any shortness of breath and anxiety over what was going on. Nothing wrong with that! | |
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| when is it okay to use crack cocaine?
Posted: 4/16/2007 4:37:43 PM | As a former and occasional abuser of most drugs I felt compelled to address this topic.
My personal opinion? Crack cocaine should never be used for any medicinal purpose, it simply doesn't have one. Crack cocaine produces 8 to 15 minutes of extreme euphoria. Wow. It also produces hours of being wired from the stimulant effects after the euphoria is gone. The drug is a lie. Beyond that 'crack' cocaine is full of impurities that have even more negative side effects.
Pure free base might have medicinal applications as a painkiller or inducer of euphoria, but the effects of the drug are just about the same. Cocaine robs you of all sense of reason and responsibility. Any patient on any variety of cocaine by rights shouldn't even be considered competent to make responsible medical choices.
The drug of choice of treating dying patients and those in extreme pain, as I understand it, is morphine. Why it isn't heroin I don't know. It should be. Oxycontin, morhpine, and heroin are all vastly superior choices to treating any condition that you would consider treating with any form of cocaine.
Just my two cents.
Crack cocaine is the most evil drug ever devised by man. The only thing that I would consider worse would be combining exstacy with ketamine. | |
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| when is it okay to use crack cocaine?
Posted: 4/16/2007 5:08:45 PM | | never. unless like what happened to my friend in Guatamala and someone had a gun to his head and made him do it. Otherwise, no, never. | |
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Joined: 4/21/2007
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| when is it okay to use crack cocaine?
Posted: 5/21/2007 6:32:50 PM | | I can't see how this would be more helpful than what is available already to ease the final stages of life. And what drug dealer in their right mind would market to such a limited market? Hard to reel them in when they are going to die soon. | |
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| when is it okay to use crack cocaine?
Posted: 5/22/2007 1:04:14 PM | NEVER! in answer to the question.....
In today’s medicine there is never any need for end of life to be painful...
there are various Opioids and complementing analgesics to ensure a good combination of comfort with other drugs etc...
You quote that most people are unconscious when dying, surely this is everyone’s wish is to go nice and peacefully and unaware of it.... (if everyone stood a vote on it!)
they say the last sense to go is that of your hearing, this was tested out with people who were beheaded years ago....So even if they are unconscious they can still hear their loved ones around them... which much be a great comfort..
however administering crack... I would imagine they would trip... and just say for example they had a bad trip on it... (as it has been know with drug users)....
why put a loved one through that possibility of a bad experience in the first place!
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