| Do guys feel intimidated by a strong, independent woman? Posted: 2/9/2009 7:14:20 AM |
(fifi47) A strong and independent woman is happy with her life in general, and likes partnership and love from a man, as stated by the previous poster.
Well, if what you mean, is that you're happy with your life in general, and would like a partnership with, and love from, a man, why don't you say that, instead of expecting a guy to be able to understand that "independent" means all that?
Why is that so difficult for so many men to understand?
Likewise: I, and other guys here, are telling you that a woman describing herself as "independent" is a red flag, as is the whole "intimidated" schtick. Why is that so difficult for (seemingly) so many women to understand? You want a guy: do what guys like. Don't do something a majority of them tell you is obnoxious, then tell 'em that they should like it.
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| Do guys feel intimidated by a strong, independent woman? Posted: 2/9/2009 11:17:40 AM |
I think men are intimidated by a strong, independent, good looking, smart woman that knows what she wants. Funny part of that is they really don't know what they are missing out on!
No way! That's exactly what I'm looking for.
On the other hand, if it's not tempered w/ compassion, tact & innate femminity...then she stand a good chance of coming across a just an overly-opinionated narcissist. Dating those gets boring quick! | |
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| Do guys feel intimidated by a strong, independent woman? Posted: 2/9/2009 11:57:26 AM | I appreciate a strong independant who has self esteem and and is not afraid to speak her mind, as long as she give me time to explian myself before she slamms down the phone. Self confidence is truly a plus. | |
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| Do guys feel intimidated by a strong, independent woman? Posted: 2/9/2009 12:49:44 PM |
It seems a lot of guys want someone they think is beneath them. If she has a menial job, is dumb, and is about as deep as a raindrop... It's not what we want. It's just what we're used to because that's all there is.
Really guys how would you feel if at your first date you meet somewhere and she drives up in a new Mercedes while you have a Hyundai? Wasn't a Hyundai the car of the year last year? (A: Yep... http://money.cnn.com/2009/01/08/autos/2009_car_of_the_year/ ) And is there anything which quite says "over-priced, high maintenance, POC" the way a Merc does? | |
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| Do guys feel intimidated by a strong, independent woman? Posted: 2/9/2009 2:20:34 PM | LOL This is exactly what I am talking about!
Wasn't a Hyundai the car of the year last year? (A: Yep... http://money.cnn.com/2009/01/08/autos/2009_car_of_the_year/ ) And is there anything which quite says "over-priced, high maintenance, POC" the way a Merc does?
You made the guy's Hyundai sound superior and took a knock at her Mercedes.
See you guys DO this! Why? | |
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| Do guys feel intimidated by a strong, independent woman? Posted: 2/9/2009 4:01:09 PM |
I think men are intimidated by a strong, independent, good looking, smart woman that knows what she wants. Funny part of that is they really don't know what they are missing out on!
Wasn't it Arlo who explained this just a few messages ago?
No matter how often men explain to women that we are not intimidated, but see 'strong, independent' in profiles as red flags because of our experience with those labels, women refuse to listen or understand....
I love it...
... but I guess, like every other thing, it's the men's faults because, as we are also told ad nauseum by women, we men don't know how to communicate.....
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| Do guys feel intimidated by a strong, independent woman? Posted: 2/9/2009 5:00:53 PM | i say power to you. i am very independant myself. i don't need a guy to protect me or to depend on. i love having a good guy around but i can take of myself. we are stronger people and i think most guys either are intimidated by us or respect us.
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| Do guys feel intimidated by a strong, independent woman? Posted: 2/9/2009 5:02:51 PM | I like "independent" women. By my definition it means they can and are willing to stand on their own two legs when meeting life's challenges.
However, when she waves the statement (and adds more proclaimating adjectives) like a banner, my thoughts are: A relationship with this woman will likely always be a competition.
Not my cup of tea.
In addition, (I add this because it seems to happening in this thread) I can't tolerate a woman (or anyone, for that matter) telling me: what I'm doing; why I'm doing it; and how I feel about it! Been the demise of a couple of my relationships.
Believe it or not, men really do know themselves better than women.
Gotta go. Gonna listen to our new President's words of wisdom. | |
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| Do guys feel intimidated by a strong, independent woman? Posted: 2/10/2009 4:45:15 AM |
(MelloDLyn) I think men are intimidated by a strong, independent, good looking, smart woman that knows what she wants. Funny part of that is they really don't know what they are missing out on!
*shrug*
Very few, as in almost NO, men are going to stick around and argue with you what "independent" means. They'll just forget you, and go for the next woman.
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| Do guys feel intimidated by a strong, independent woman? Posted: 2/10/2009 8:10:58 AM | From reading this thread, it's obvious the self-proclaimed independent woman still wants to live in her delusional world where men are intimidated by her.
You woman aren't too bright. Read what men are saying. WE ALL LOVE INDEPENDENT WOMEN!!!!
We just can't stand women who feel the need to declare it. We're in no way intimidated by those women who make this claim. WE JUST FIND YOUR PERSONALITY UNBEARABLE. DEAL WITH IT. | |
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| Do guys feel intimidated by a strong, independent woman? Posted: 2/10/2009 8:15:23 AM |
It seems a lot of guys want someone they think is beneath them. If she has a menial job, is dumb, and is about as deep as a raindrop, it makes him feel more like a man. He is superior. Who is your pharmacist? I want what you're tripping on. Read the men's responses here. We want independent women we see as an equal.
I think women can have the successful career and be independent but they aren't supposed to ever talk about it. If a man gets a huge bonus at work that is the entire amount she makes in a year, he is going to want to brag about it to his partner. Nobody gets upset about that. LMAO. You are quite delusional. First of all, no reasonable adult likes braggarts. So if a man brags about his stuff, he's equally a douchebag as the woman who brags. Nice try, sis. Your "logic" is flawed once again.
If a woman gets a bonus that happens to be the entire amount the guy makes in a year, she is just supposed to be quiet about it. Nope. Just don't be a jerk about it. This is what many self-proclaimed independent women do.
Really guys how would you feel if at your first date you meet somewhere and she drives up in a new Mercedes while you have a Hyundai? I could care less. I've driven trucks for years. | |
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| Do guys feel intimidated by a strong, independent woman? Posted: 2/11/2009 10:38:34 AM | i am a very independant girl - but i dont' go around proclaiming it on every corner - or every guy that smiles at me i don't try to intimidate them thinking i can. if you are yourself then a guy should be able to see that you are an independant woman and possess certain qualities. some people get independance confused with****ness . | |
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| Do guys feel intimidated by a strong, independent woman? Posted: 2/11/2009 9:19:02 PM | | I know you asked for a man's opinion but I just wanted to comment. If you are strong, stable, independent young woman, then stay that way. Don't ever change who you are to get a guy. There is someone out there who will love you for EXACTLY who you are. Keep looking and don't ever compromise yourself . | |
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| Do guys feel intimidated by a strong, independent woman? Posted: 2/11/2009 10:08:30 PM |
The way to describe myself is i'm independent, strong, emotionally stable...I've been dating for about 8 mo.. Haven't found anybody that's really my type..Sometimes I wonder if i'm being too picky or I might come off a certain way that guys feel intimidated by. I'd appreciate a man's perspective on this.
I am sure there will be some who are and some who aren't. Here's a suggestion to sort the wheat from the chaff, so to speak. Think of it as a starting point.
Start out by looking to date military men or former military. After all, if they've survived combat and still have their head on straight, how are you going to intimidate them when they've had people trying to maim or kill them? Just take it from there. | |
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| Do guys feel intimidated by a strong, independent woman? Posted: 2/12/2009 3:07:53 AM | The problem I have with this whole post is the fact that a lot of folks like to go around claiming to be these things. It is redundant and a bit of a bore. If you are what you say you are, please do not announce it on every street corner, just be who you are.
The truly ironic part is that most of these women who are stating that they are "strong and independent" are so concerned about what men think of them. It befuddles me, who cares? | |
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| Self-proclaimed Independent Women = Self-proclaimed Nice Guys Posted: 2/12/2009 8:08:17 PM |
Wasn't it Arlo who explained this just a few messages ago?
No matter how often men explain to women that we are not intimidated, but see 'strong, independent' in profiles as red flags because of our experience with those labels, women refuse to listen or understand....
I love it...
... but I guess, like every other thing, it's the men's faults because, as we are also told ad nauseum by women, we men don't know how to communicate.....
Awesome. LMAO
I can't believe how many women smoke crack here. Every guy has said we are not intimidated. Just annoyed at women who label themselves this based on all of our collective experiences with this type of lady. That experience tells us women who label themselves independent are just like the men who label themselves nice.
There is a strong, independent woman who contacted me recently here. I knew she was independent and strong based on what she said and how she said it. Best of all, she never bragged or was a snobby b1tch about it like the women who love those labels do. | |
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| Self-proclaimed Independent Women = Self-proclaimed Nice Guys Posted: 2/12/2009 10:34:43 PM | Strong, idependent....etc,etc, yada-yada-bla. Looking carefuly at the concept used on the streets and implemented on the daily basis mean "tons of bullshit" for a man. Its the "don't even go there" stuff. Not because of the strong and independent....crap...I have been in the military service so I don't need more "militariness" in my life. Some TV show guys from my native country came to US and people are talking right? and tell realities right?.....Well the guy when he went back home said: I am going home and I will never let this happen. Meaning? Back home if women "jumps over the horse" they end up ignored on a daily and national level and fingers start pointing to them wherever and whenever. At the TV, on the streets, jokes come around, men don't give a shit on them....whatever. You may risk a **** you directly on your face. But interestingly enough....women know how to be fiminine and lovely....Now go and figure this out......."strongly independent" women. You tell me. Howcome many of your men go to Thailand....and other neighbouring countries? HOWCOME? Why do they go there? Because they miss you so much?
Have you ever heard of Argentinians or Brazilians going to Thailand for sex?....HUH? Any examples? Send me a picture please. | |
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| Do guys feel intimidated by a strong, independent woman? Posted: 2/13/2009 8:20:01 AM | "I think men are intimidated by a strong, independent, good looking, smart woman that knows what she wants. Funny part of that is they really don't know what they are missing out on!"
Most men are turned off by ego driven women. We're looking more a person with some personality.
I also wonder why you think you're strong, independent, good looking, and smart? Did someone tell you this? Or do you know that by women's intuition?  | |
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| Do guys feel intimidated by a strong, independent woman? Posted: 2/13/2009 8:32:44 AM | | I am not intimidated by women or men for that matter. I give everyone the same amount of respect and trust when I first meet them. What they do with it after that is up to them. I have met some very well educated people and I often wonder how they make it through life. On the other side of the coin I have seen people who are uneducated and do very well for themselves. I think the best answer to the question is that, I would have no interest in changing my whole lifestyle, just to fit in. Many very nice women that I have met, that are independent, strong and emotionally stable would probably chase me out of the house with a baseball bat in time LOL. Probably the first time I walked through the house in my work boots. So, I see no need to go down that road and would rather pass. | |
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| Do guys feel intimidated by a strong, independent woman? Posted: 2/13/2009 10:52:29 AM | | Do guys feel intimidated by strong, independent women? Absolutely not! Personally to me it is a huge turn on, it's one thing to have a women you connect with emotionally and physically, but its even better to connect with someone that has the same qualities and that is also driven to succeed. Many people will not agree with that statement but its my opinion. | |
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| Do guys feel intimidated by a strong, independent woman? Posted: 2/13/2009 2:19:41 PM |
i am a very independant girl - but i dont' go around proclaiming it on every corner
You could have screamed this at the top of your lungs from mid-town Manhattan or the Ginza and had fewer people pay attention. So much for discrete proclamations.
When someone emphasizes their independence, they are proclaiming their unwillingness to become inter-dependent; that is, to enter into a relationship.
A serious suitor will take you seriously, so they will walk away. | |
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