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Posted: 6/14/2008 10:35:43 PM | | The Bears, even though our offense sucks. But Devin Hester is must-see TV!!! | |
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Posted: 6/15/2008 6:29:54 AM | Mark,
when i refer football as 'proper football' that does NOT sound arrogant. why should it be arrogant to give anything its real name.
you are right when you refer baseball as 'baseball'. you are right when you refer nascar as 'nascar'. however, you are wrong when you refer Ice Hockey as 'Hockey', and you are wrong again when you refer american football or gridiron as 'football'.
if football is played with a round ball and using the feet, you can NOT use the same name to describe another sport which does NOT have anything to do with football. that is why i used the adjetive 'proper'.
at wizard,
never heard of a football club called New England Patriots. do you mean some English people have segregated from England, and have establised a new country, giving it that name?  just kidding | |
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Posted: 6/15/2008 7:53:22 AM | Pedro, I still think that when you call soccer "proper football" that you mean that any other sport that has the word "football" in it is improper, because there is only one true football according to you. Yes European football has been around longer than North American football, but that doesn't mean that it is the only"proper" football. The adjective "proper" is what makes it sound arrogant. I agree the person who decided to name North American football, didn't think or know there was another sport already called football. To avoid confusion we North Americans call your "proper football" soccer and our football is called football. It is only Europeans living here that seem to have a problem with the name and our football is far more popular than "proper football" in this country.
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Posted: 6/15/2008 8:28:18 AM | I have the answer, we can use the term footie,
Real Madrid.
Liverpool.
Celtic Glasgow.
River Plate.
RE River Plate, saw this on another forum and thought it was almost as good as our lot...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gX-HP7V4aaw
I'm a red, a proper red.... 
i do however have soft spots for the letics, and have a respect for pompey, but that's more to do with their fans. | |
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Posted: 6/15/2008 11:53:36 AM | | Ac Milan - well any Italian team in the Champions league really. | |
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Posted: 6/15/2008 11:59:19 AM | River Plate are the Argentinian club with more titles, and i always have had respect towards them.
Mark,
you are wrong again friend the person who decided to name north american football DID know that there was already a sport called football, do you know why? because your north american football comes from both football and rugby, also known as rugby football.
the word 'soccer' was not created to avoid confusion as you seem to state. the word 'soccer' comes from Football Association (As-SOC-iation) which is the governing body of football, it is just a letters game with the ending 'er' after 'soc'. just like rugby is also called 'rugger'.
i know and agree with you that there are different forms of football (rugby football, north american football, gaelic football, australian football, etc) but the only real one which deserves the name is that one played with a round ball and using the feet, because the rest of forms come from it. in fact let me remind you that rugby was 'created' during a football game when some player suddenly took the ball with his hands and started running, carrying it with the hands. | |
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Posted: 6/15/2008 12:34:17 PM | Pedro, my problem is when you refer to soccer as proper football. Is that what it's called everywhere except North America? Do kids in Spain really say let's go and play "proper football" or do they say let's go play football(without saying proper first)? What I'm really interested whether the word "proper" is ALWAYS used when refering to football?
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Posted: 6/16/2008 2:20:12 AM | Can I just point out that a VERY long time ago "proper" football was actually called ASSOCIATION football, and still is. Quite a lot of clubs (not teams) still have the words Association Football Club on their club crests (known as badges). Even the likes of Man Utd, Liverpool, AC Milan (founded by an Englishman, which is why they are known as Milan, not Milano) started as a CLUB, paid for by subscription to play, and associated to an administrative body, again by subscription. The passion is still there in the game for all to see, but so many people can't look beyond the obscene amounts of money paid to top players. Look at the likes of Teddy Sheringham who took a huge wage cut simply to carry on playing beyond his 40th birthday, or look at lower league games where the players are paid per match, or not at all, but train 2 or 3 times a week and play through injury as well as working full time. That is true passionate sport!
Back on topic.....
I am a Coventry City supporter and always will be!!! I was born there and grew up a mile from the old Highfield Road ground so there really was no option. Nowadays if you walk past the old site you see Man Utd and Chelsea shirts! Booooooooooooo!!!! | |
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Posted: 6/16/2008 9:54:21 AM | I like this one:
http://whoareyadesigns.bigcartel.com/product/throwball-the-sticker
That said, I'm a lifelong Packer fan for the Us version. For the world version I've never zeroed in on any one team to root for, but I'm a huge EPL fan, and have found I enjoy rooting against Arsenal and Chelsea so I like to root for whoever is going to keep them from winning anything. Lately that has been Man U. Besides, I'm a big Tevez fan, love the way he plays, his energy. Bit of a soft spot for Spurs since the days Klinsman moved there from Monaco. But most of my energy is backing the teams with US players. Fulham, Everton, Reading, Watford. Guess I have followed players more than any particular side.
In the end I just love the game, want to see some quality matches. One day I may find a side to back... | |
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Posted: 6/16/2008 9:59:09 AM | ^^ less epl more continental football.
Do yourself a favour lol | |
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Posted: 6/16/2008 10:19:23 AM | I watch a little Serie A and La Liga, but I'm EPL through and through. When I was a kid the only football I could get was on PBS, English highlights. My coach as a kid was Irish, the mens club teams I played on were all with UK ex-pats. The teams, the players they always talked about were from the UK. It hooked me.
So most of it is a product of knowing more of the history of the clubs, I know more of the players. Don't think for a moment I'm belittling any of the other leagues, this is just my preference. There are great teams, and great players in the other leagues, and for the past few years I have treid to catch all the Roma mnatches I can. They play some great football. | |
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Posted: 6/16/2008 10:23:32 AM | The mighty Gers
Glasgow Rangers FC for people not into football.
NFL bears all the way....... | |
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Posted: 6/16/2008 11:37:33 AM | | Dallas Cowboys!!!!!CFL has to be Calgary!!!! | |
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Posted: 6/16/2008 11:45:27 AM | "guess i have followed players more than any particular side"
yes that is typical from North Americans, Japanese and the Chinese, i mean, when David Beckham played for Man United lots of american and chinese girls used to root for them, wearing his jersey. later he joined Real Madrid and those people became supporters of Madrid. now those girls surely wear LA Galaxy's jerseys. how loyal they are...........!
that is just perhaps the most important difference between Europeans and North Americans. we love and support the club not the player! if my favourite player moved to a different club, i would say 'phuck you'. whereas lots of North Americans tend to change and support a new team if their favourite player has moved to the new one. not very loyal i think!
i have seen and read it a lot of times so i know what i talk about. and i am NOT slagging anyone off! | |
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Posted: 6/16/2008 11:52:01 AM |
One day I may find a side to back...
If your not born to a team, the team picks you, you go to a game, any game, your decision is made. | |
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Posted: 6/16/2008 11:58:56 AM | | been a packer fan for 38 years, so loyalty is not an issue, because for most of those years the team was a real stinker. but like fiona said, I wasn't born into a team, never had enough of a chance as a kid to follow any side really, just hit and miss highlights. but I have played, coached and been a fan since I first touched a ball and unlike most north americans, follow it closely... although I will admit finding myself taking more concern with how Fulham did this past year than any other side, so maybe my choice is made. We'll see how it goes this season. | |
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Posted: 6/16/2008 12:46:09 PM | Mark,
kids in Spain do not say 'let's play proper football' nor is it the name everyone uses. here in Spain we have two words for football: FUTBOL and BALONPIE.
the word 'Balonpie' is just the exact and most correct translation of the English word 'football', you know, 'foot' is translated as 'pie', and 'ball' as 'balon'. however, the word 'balonpie' is getting old and dying amongst the ordinary people. only some old people and some old fashioned journalists use it.
on the other hand the word 'Futbol' is the word everyone uses, however, it is not as authentic as the other one 'Balonpie'. it is just the way we spell and pronounced the English word 'football'. | |
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Posted: 6/16/2008 1:42:02 PM | Pedro, the reason I asked if kids say "let's play proper football" is because you continue to refer it as that. If kids don't say this in Spain or anywhere else in Europe, then you refering to soccer as "proper football" IS BEING ARROGANT because you're saying that implies all other forms of football is improper and bad. You may not feel this way but I do and I'm sure that many other fans of Australian rules football, rugby etc don't like their football being implied as improper. Do you see what I mean?
Mark | |
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Posted: 6/16/2008 2:10:18 PM | | You guys realise there is only one true football right, all the rest are just misunderstandings :P | |
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Posted: 6/16/2008 2:32:36 PM | Rachid, what is the only true football? and what misunderstanding have occurred?
Mark | |
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Posted: 6/16/2008 2:42:58 PM |
You guys realise there is only one true football right, all the rest are just misunderstandings
I totally agree....The world is so confused.... | |
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Posted: 6/16/2008 3:20:15 PM | | Heard a great line about Americans, American sports, and world football today. The guy said to an American, 'when you know half as much about (world)football as I do about American sports, then we'll talk, until then it just won't be a fair arguement'. And that sums it up. Most americans fail to even take the time to develop a rudimentary knowledge of the game, yet knock it over and over. You're like religious zealots. Ever notice most zealots want to tell you all about what they believe, yet have absolutely no interest in what YOU believe? | |
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Posted: 6/16/2008 3:35:07 PM | Jumpy, I think your last comment regarding "Americans not knowing half as much about world football" is a typical "pot calling the kettle black". There have been many Europeans posting and bashing American sports that don't know half as much or even have a clue about American football. This comment could easily be said the other way around. I think that most North Americans know the game of soccer and have even played the game, but I highly doubt that most Europeans have played North American football which kind of makes your comment invalid and wrong, in my opinion anyway
Mark | |
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Posted: 6/16/2008 4:59:09 PM | pickmynose don't get my comment wrong, I think every sport, American or not, pales in comaprison to Football :P
But generally I think that the beauty of football just outdoes American football. Thers nothing quite like watching a player run full speed with the ball never more than an inch away from his foot, twisting left, ball through the legs, followed by a flip-flop right leaving a dazed defender on the ground, to hit a magical left foot shot curling away from the goalkeeper into the top corner...
We don't need to get statistics to be amazed, or watch a team complete a well-rehearsed play for our jaw to drop. Give the guy a football, watch him drift effortlessly down the wing, can't get more perfect than that... | |
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Posted: 6/16/2008 6:27:25 PM | I'm not buying it. Too many Amercans, and I AM Americarn mind you, bash the sport just for the sake of bashing it. With no effort to get to know it. Personally I think they're missing out, but it is their otion to do so. The Europeans I have known have had an open mind towards any sport, including our football, making an effort to get to know it, understand it, and learn about it. But let's face it, there really isn't ANY part of the world interested in our brand of football is there? Not as anything but a novelty anyway. Seems every nation in the world embraces Futbol though doesn't it?
Imagine taking the best players from the NFL and making one team out of them. For competitive play, not the Pro Bowl. And having every other country in the world do the same, and having a big tournament to see which nation is the best in the world. That is the World Cup. Or in the case of Euro2008, in Europe. The NFL will never have that. Baseball won't. Basketball comes the closest but there are still plenty of countries that don't play it. | |
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