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 conejovalleygirl

Joined: 6/20/2007
Msg: 51
TOM LEYKIS 101
Posted: 8/28/2007 12:46:18 AM
ALL of you guys are so silly and totally NOT getting it! Tom Leykis has been married 4 times. He brags about getting laid. Sorry, but he is butt ugly and there are too many hot, rich guys around to bang besides him.

Deal with this: RATINGS. ADVERTISING. Omg! Do you get it now? He is pure enteretainment...he brings in advertising revenue. Sure, he occasionally has good advice for young horny guys who can't remember to use a condom or confirm that their chick is on birth control. Other than that...you missed it. Entirely!
 Rhett1

Joined: 10/16/2005
Msg: 52
TOM LEYKIS 101
Posted: 8/28/2007 11:40:41 AM
insearchofluv01

3> "No Means No - If she says no then, STOP, get your stuff, and leave." Then what , rape her? if this does not make sense, what does? Or should you go down on your knees and beg her?
Or how about stopping and respecting that she's not ready to go further? This is an obnoxious way for a person to behave. Imagine, a woman says stop, so you get up and walk out...what message does that give? It gives the message: "I'm an ass. I was only here to get into your pants, nothing else about you interests me enough to want to wait a while longer." This does NOT make men look good.
As I've said, I think many of his points are great. Too many people, both men and women, ignore the basics and that's why there are so many single parents and people who are working their ass of to pay someone else all their money. There is not a damn thing wrong with men wanting some respect too, but I don't think the particular example you used makes a man unworthy of respect.
 Rhett1

Joined: 10/16/2005
Msg: 53
TOM LEYKIS 101
Posted: 8/28/2007 11:44:31 AM
Telepylus: Wow. That actually made me gag.


it's always disturbing to me when people don't acknowledge the amazing miracle that takes place inside of the womb in order for each one of us to be born
This has nothing to do with the uterus.
This is about women who think they can have anyone they want or treat anyone the way they want simply because they think they're a "goddess". Do you honestly believe that all women are goddesses? I know plenty of women who don't deserve that moniker.

if they have egotistical attitudes about it then they are false goddess figures
And you see, this is the problem. The women who loudly announce their "goddessness" are the ones who ARE obnoxious about it. They are so full of themselves that they refuse to see that the man they are with is deserving of some respect, too. The attitude is: "I am, therefore you must bow to me".
 insearchofluv01

Joined: 6/22/2007
Msg: 54
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Posted: 8/28/2007 1:09:24 PM
@eldubu-

From here:
http://www.tenetsofleykis.com/leykis_101_rules/03_no_means_no.php

the rationale behind the advice you disagreed about is :

" * No does not mean she is playing.
* No does not mean just this one time.
* No does not mean she consents to sex.

U.S. laws mostly favor woman and will very rarely will it protect a man's right. Men do not have the same luxury as innocent until proven guilty. Men are tried, labeled, and accused with little discretion.

If a woman cries out rape you will not past GO, you will not collect $200.00, but you will go directly to jail. It is not worth spending the next 10 years in jail and living the rest of your life as a sex offender."

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By the way, I like your reply to the "Goddess" thing. :) Nice rejoinder.
 ^^Batgirl^^

Joined: 6/24/2007
Msg: 55
TOM LEYKIS 101
Posted: 8/28/2007 4:23:16 PM
Hm, this was originally posted on May 8, 2004.

A full three years, three months and as many days later, the OP is still here.

What I would like to know is:

Are Mr. Leykis' rules working for you?

^^BG^^
 Rhett1

Joined: 10/16/2005
Msg: 56
TOM LEYKIS 101
Posted: 8/28/2007 8:00:16 PM
Insearchoflove: I guess looking at it from that point...okay. I do understand, but think about how many men are reading this as: "If she won't give it up, walk out", not "get out before she has the chance to cry rape". I do get it, I just think it's not so cut and dry.

P.S.-Thanks. (-:
 Telepylus

Joined: 8/14/2007
Msg: 57
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Posted: 8/28/2007 9:20:56 PM

This is about women who think they can have anyone they want or treat anyone the way they want simply because they think they're a "goddess". Do you honestly believe that all women are goddesses?


if you'd read what i'd written you wouldn't need to ask that question.
do i believe all women are goddesses?
the answer is NO, of course not, just like men, most people in general are ignorant, and more reminiscent of monkeys than gods or goddesses.

what i said was, the female gender is the potential house for the Goddess Avatars.
and there are different Goddess Aspects too, some Goddesses kill babies and eat them.

i guess the confusion here is my definition of Goddess is an accurate one- while the defination Tom Leykis is using is false.
and it's demeaning to both Women and the Goddess to even do that- blasphemy in fact.

all women do have the potential to be a Goddess Avatar, of true quality and pure power.
they have that potential because of their uterus, and for no other reason.
and in order for a woman to channel the Goddess, of any type, she must do nothing more but become honest with herself, to know herself, to stop restricting her own potentials.
to stop running away from herself, as 99.9999% of women do.

as i said, just thinking you are a goddess doesn't make you one.
i had made that point perfectly clear in the beginning.

THIS IS ABOUT THE UTERUS.
women who are obnoxious egocentric manipulators are that way because they don't realize how beautiful & wonderful & amazing the life-cycle is
and when women do realize this, they also come to the understanding that men can be pretty cool too, and not worthy of such abuse, so long as they too understand the Life-Cycle and how beautiful & wonderful & amazing the human organism is.

there is extraordinary beauty & bliss all around us, it's just a matter of opening your eyes to reality, rather than cowering in the darkness hating everything.


another quick example-
a lot of women hate their period.
and the reason they hate their period is because they have no idea what it means.
they hate the cramps or the moodiness, or skin blemishes, etc...
so they focus on how terrible it is to be a woman, gee, i wish i could be a man so i don't have to have my period, so i don't have to worry about getting pregnant.
rather than focusing on the truth of the matter, which i won't even try to explain here.
needless to say, if a woman respected her body and knew the potential powers of her period, and what is actually going on inside of her body, she wouldn't get PMS at all.

sorry for making you gag eldubo
so be it
i'm not going to abuse womanhood just for your benefit
 iago_lives

Joined: 4/19/2007
Msg: 58
TOM LEYKIS 101
Posted: 8/28/2007 9:54:56 PM

as i said, just thinking you are a goddess doesn't make you one.
i had made that point perfectly clear in the beginning.

THIS IS ABOUT THE UTERUS


Thanks for clearing all of that up. I was a bit sceptical, maybe even a bit cynical or disbelieving before.


they also come to the understanding that men can be pretty cool too


....nice to know us men rate so highly in the dogesses'...er, godesses' eyes.

Hopefully, some godesses don't kill and eat men too.... like they do with babies, apparently.


i guess the confusion here is my definition of Goddess is an accurate one- while the defination Tom Leykis is using is false.


I'm still having a bit of a problem with this ^^^^ bit. Can you clear this one up, please? How do you know YOU are the accurate one?

Cheers.
 Lotus_Flower

Joined: 8/8/2007
Msg: 59
TOM LEYKIS 101
Posted: 8/28/2007 10:28:35 PM

Can you clear this one up, please? How do you know YOU are the accurate one?


Because he speaks from his heart and not out his ass
 Rhett1

Joined: 10/16/2005
Msg: 60
TOM LEYKIS 101
Posted: 8/29/2007 10:55:41 AM
Telepylus: I didn't ask you to abuse womanhood...as for it being for my benefit...that's ridiculous...yes, I'd get a lot out of you calling women down.


and the reason they hate their period is because they have no idea what it means.
Do you know this from having your own period? I'm guessing no.
A lot of women hate their period because it can suck. Plain and simple. Have you ever had flaming cramps that start at your ankles and work up to your chest? No? I'm not going to go into detail about some of the more "gross" aspects, but yes, women know what it means. It's funny that you're sticking up for women, yet calling us stupid at the same time. I think we know what our periods mean.

needless to say, if a woman respected her body and knew the potential powers of her period, and what is actually going on inside of her body, she wouldn't get PMS at all.
Wow! You've got the cure for PMS? You should be a doctor. I'll tell you what, wait until a woman you know is really cranky, and tell her that if she just knew what her period was about, she wouldn't be so moody...then kiss your arse goodbye.

You're making this all about Avatars and the sun and moon, blah blah blah...no, this is about women who think their shit doesn't stink simply because they are a woman...and as much as you'd like to make this about the uterus...what about women who've had hysterectomies? Does that mean, according to your divine plan, these women aren't, in fact, women?
 gocatalinatoday

Joined: 10/31/2007
Msg: 61
Re: TOM LEYKIS 101
Posted: 2/18/2008 5:38:37 AM

While some of it, such as wearing a condom is just common sense, much of that suggests an attitude that will guarantee you a very long and lonely life.


Total nonsense, except for the Long Life part.

Women that think as the woman that posted the above quote is not the type one of Tom's students would be interested in dating.

She's already displaying a hostile attitude, and more than likely has not heard the show up in Canada - because the government (under pressure from women's groups), prohibited the show from being aired.

That doesn't speak well for the right of Free Speech in Canada, which is unfortunate.
 Dame Whimsical

Joined: 2/2/2008
Msg: 62
TOM LEYKIS 101
Posted: 2/18/2008 8:47:50 AM
Leykis' advise is purely just about how to get you laid and not how to have a relationship. As far as I understand even he is pretty clear on the fact that he doesn't know how to do relationships.
 fooferella

Joined: 2/12/2009
Msg: 63
TOM LEYKIS 101
Posted: 3/30/2009 12:51:40 PM
Leykis is awesome!! Flash Fridays!
 NoBushLover

Joined: 1/27/2009
Msg: 64
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Posted: 3/30/2009 1:12:47 PM
He appeals to those "men" who feel they have been "emasculated" by our culture which resulted in their inability to get a female to like them enough to have sex with them. The misogynist bleatings his followers post is merely the sorry attempts of the emasculated to regain their lost masculinity. And the advice he gives is useful for nothing more than attracting females whose self-esteem is as low as the fanboy's.
 85032Luck

Joined: 3/16/2006
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Posted: 3/30/2009 3:27:45 PM
toms rules make as much sense as wearing your seatbelt when you drive your car.
(your far worse off, if your not prepared for an unforseen event)

-WOMEN HATE HIM CUZ HE'S RIGHT!
-THE MEN THAT HATE HIM, HATE HIM CUZ THEY DONT HAVE ENOUGH BALLS TO STAND UP TO WOMEN WHO TREAT THEM LIKE CRAP. (PUSSIES)

most women are kind and caring creatures, i wouldn't advocate treating every female you encounter like a succubus, however when it rains, you should run for cover.
i hardly doubt any guy heeds toms advice 100%, i really don't think a guy could actually get a date with a decent woman by treating her like crap. toms show is entertaining as well as informative as to how low some people will stoop (whether male or female) -if you actually listen to the show -the callers are the one who give it the negativity with their boneheaded actions and no thought as they stumble throught their tangled lives and doomed relationships. -tom is the only one with enough balls to tell the emperor he's buck ass naked... and with a smile!
tom may sound like a radical ass, however since he lives in the L-A area, i would think he is speaking from experience. -there is an exceptional quota of platinum dyed and silicone lurking out there with evil and treachery on their minds.

his rules make perfect sense when you think about them:

why would you spend more than $40 on dinner with someone you just met? an intelligent women would be wise to think his extravagent spending was trying to buy her something more than dinner. -and if she expects you to spend a fortune on her on the first date -doesn't that make her a prostitute?
if shes, texting and and answering her cell phone during dinner -that would show you she has complete disinterest and disrespect in you -time to bale.
wear a rubber... -not that you should be having immediate sex with every gal you date, however there is no valid reason you should be forsaking protection against diseases or an unwanted pregnancy. -if shes banging you on the first date -do ya think she's possibly doing a few other guys as well. -and like he says -"is fifteen minutes of fun worth making child support payments for the next 18 years?".
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