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| Grooming Posted: 3/25/2007 11:33:16 AM | I wanted to show who I am, not who I dress up to be.
Here, here.
When million's of Americans and Canadians are filing for bankruptcy, you just know that they had no business looking the way they do. But damn, they be fine-lookin' in bankruptcy court. | |
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| Grooming Posted: 3/25/2007 11:41:40 AM | I wear jeans, a t-shirt, sneakers and a sport coat on a date all the time.
You want the real me or the fake me in a suit and tie?
Yet again, men can't win. If we wear a suit for the first date, then the first time they see us in jeans they posts "He was such a phony. He wore a suit ont he first date and then I never saw the suit again."
You interested in meeting me or my closet? Me or some plastic guy who thinks he will impress people with designer labels? The kind of people who ARE impressed by the designer labels are not the type in whom I would be interested.
Now remind us how shallow MEN are......
I might turn this around and ask why women with huge guts wear bare midriff shirts and pants 4 sizes too small.... | |
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| Grooming Posted: 3/25/2007 11:49:03 AM | | I suppose everyone has their own sense of style. To some people a clean shirt and jeans might be dressing up. I mean I have a suit but I only wear it for weddings, funerals, and christmas parties. I wouldn't think of wearing it on a date. But I wouldn't show up in a tshirt. Just a decent shirt and a nice pair of jeans, and smelling nice. | |
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e-wok
| Joined: 9/25/2006 Msg: 29 | |
| Grooming Posted: 3/25/2007 11:57:06 AM | I still think I look finer in jeans and t-shirt than many dudes who wear designer label. When I went to a high-end restraunt with my Canuck hockey t-shirt, the waiter's treated me first class paying me compliments......yeah, so, the Canuck players frequent there a lot, but I make any t-shirt look damn good. | |
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| Grooming Posted: 4/13/2007 8:51:08 AM |
Other times they don't trim their hair
I searched for a thread on grooming and ended up here. It seems bella4908 started things off right, but the responders all want to talk about clothes. I have met an absolutely fascinating POF, charming, well mannered, great conversationalist who needs some grooming tips.
I adore facial hair on men when it is nicely groomed but quarter inch fuzz on face makes me wonder if he just didn't stand close enough to the razor. How about nose hairs long enough to braid plus wild and bushy eyebrows. Do barbers attend to these things as they did back in the dark ages when I previously dated or not.
Give me some insight on this.
Am I in the wrong forum?
Help!!!!!!!!! | |
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| Grooming Posted: 4/13/2007 10:53:50 AM | | Guys who dress and do everything exactly the way you like it are viewed as doormats or wimps by a substantial number of women. Blame your sisters. | |
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| Grooming Posted: 4/13/2007 10:57:54 AM | grunge is in... so is ugly amoung the younger crowd, which is why they put earrings in their noses and dress like vampires.
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| Grooming Posted: 4/13/2007 11:01:13 AM | well to me...good grooming means clean...with clean clothes. it doesn't mean a suit coat and tie | |
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| Grooming Posted: 4/13/2007 2:32:59 PM | I trim my beard and deal with nose hairs and the like, I'm not going to get a haircut before every date though.
For clothes, I think it'd be false advertising if I dressed up for a date since I normally don't dress that way. I think it's best if I let my date see the real me so they'll be able to make a better decision on if I'm right for her or not. Honestly, I'd hope she did the same, I'd want to know what I was getting, not deal with a false persona for a month or two. | |
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Nan60
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| Grooming Posted: 4/13/2007 3:50:32 PM | what have tatoos to do with 'grooming'? Can't imagine getting a hair cut for every date myself and I have nice hair! (smile). As for the cologne, many people are mildly or severely allergic...it's a no no ....just like blowin smoke in the face in the 70's. Let the guys be guys, a suit would impress more - but NOT at the pizza place or coffee stop.
Got to say I love a guy in a suit tho!! Better than chocolate lol | |
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| Grooming Posted: 4/13/2007 4:02:29 PM | | I always have a certain standard of dress when I'm out in public, but dress a lot more casually around the house or if I'm going over to a friends house etc. | |
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| Grooming Posted: 4/13/2007 4:36:58 PM | I dress the way I would normally:
Pants - jeans to dress pants depending on the day and who the meetings are with Shirt - something with a collar unless I'm on a job site all day, then it's usually a t-shirt Jacket - matching the dressier of the two above Footwear - appropriate to the rest of the outfit Grooming - clean shaven (unless she expresses an desire for the rough look - some do) Cologne - nope, freshly showered, but that's about it - better no scent than the wrong scent
First Date: Dressy pants (unless the activity calls for something else), shirt with a collar, dress shoes (unless the activity calls for something else).
Simple, easy, and I wear similar outfits every day. | |
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| Grooming Posted: 4/13/2007 7:32:36 PM | OK. Please, allow me to clarify. The question isnt about how expensive the clothes are, but how PRESENTABLE the person who is wearing them is. It's about looking nice, neat, and clean. Its about going the extra mile to look like a gentleman instead of a slob. Its about NOT looking like you just finished doing chores and actually got ready for a date.
By the way, for those who dont like to wear ties, you are missing out BIG TIME. There is nothing sexier than a man wearing a tie, because a lady can playfully take your tie in her hands, pull you in closer, and plant a kiss on you, when you least expect it!  | |
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| Grooming Posted: 4/13/2007 9:33:21 PM | Well to me that isn't even an issue. If you aren't "...nice, neat and clean.".......? If you can't figure out that minimum standard, why the heck are you even there? This is simple standard for leaving the house, not going on a date. With a few exceptions you should be presentable regardless of what......
....wait a minute....
No, wait.... Guys, go out looking like slobs, like you just rolled out of bed after a bender. Come on, you want to, so do it. Don't worry about the impression you give, it's all about the guy inside, she won't mind the smell as she gets to know you. Razor burn on her cheeks is a turn on. Be The Man! Give it up for ratty jeans and old t-shirts!
Makes it easier for the rest of us who actually know how to get dressed without mommy looking in.
Of course this is coming from a guy who can actually tie a bowtie, so go figure.... | |
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| Grooming Posted: 4/13/2007 9:51:06 PM | Greetings:
Succinctly, isn't it about personal tastes?
Some people are casual, some are not. Personal taste, even hygienne, are not necessarilly reflective of inner depth.
If One desires the 'Suit and Tie' thing, then look for that! No one can expect the Cowboy to wear a suit, nor the Suit to be a cowboy.....
With regards, TBK | |
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| Grooming Posted: 4/13/2007 10:00:59 PM | Interesting point Home on the coast:
The skill of self tied bow ties is waning: there are fewer occassions where one dresses formally, and casually or in business dress, it is not the norm.
At the Officer's Mess is but one of few occcassions where I proudly display such minor skill in knots: but alas, One has to be appreciative of that, do they not?
Some think flatulence is humourous.....ah...to each their own.
Regards, TBK | |
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| Grooming Posted: 4/14/2007 1:10:53 AM | know this is ask a guy - but I'll put my 2 cents in anyway.....
As far as showing up in jeans and a tshirt depending on the date - it's cool. But I love a guy in a nice pair of worn Levis. Now I don't mean a nasty stained tshirt....but as long as it's clean and the date is basically casual..I think it's great. I also love tattoos, so that's not an issue for me either. As to cologne - I'd rather smell my man, not cologne - plus if you wanna kiss and nibble his neck cologne tastes like crap. | |
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| Grooming Posted: 4/14/2007 4:04:18 AM | As long as it is clean, doesn't look like they slept in it, and appropriate for the setting, I am happy with whatever someone is comfortable in. They must be showered and shaved - personal hygiene is a must. And of course, the phrase "appropriate to the setting" leaves some frightening room for fashion faux pas, as that is open to personal judgement - some of which is rather lacking!
Myself, I love guys in jeans and well-fitting t-shirts. I kinda go for that rugged, non-pretty boy thing. | |
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| Grooming Posted: 5/2/2007 4:13:03 AM | I saw this guy at a pof dance, don't know if he was a pofer but he was dressed to the max, fedora and all. I can tell you one thing you would change your tune if you checked out the babe he had and I mean built. Not only did i see him once but twice and once again with another babe and these were not women from pof.
So much for your deperation theory, women do like a well dressed man | |
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| Grooming Posted: 5/2/2007 6:56:23 AM | actually...I DO all those things | |
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| Grooming Posted: 5/2/2007 9:27:36 AM |
how come guys don't wear that much anymore?
I blame Global Warming  | |
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| Grooming Posted: 5/2/2007 12:59:35 PM | Hmm.
Theres something wrong with Jeans and a Tshirt? Oh crap, really? What if I throw a sweater over top the tshirt? Is that ok? Cause, I dont even own pants that arnt jeans, besides my baseball sweats, and im pretty sure those are worse.
As for cologne? Depends on the occasion, grabbing lunch on a busy work day? As if, hose off with a shot of axe or something. Now, if you talking nice dinner, drink and whatever kinda night, well then. Hell yes, I would even say that I own a few nice bottles, and get a little picky. However, I do prefer swiss army, just a general all around nice clean smell I guess.
The reason I dont dress up?
Im just not a dress-up kinda guy, why show up in clothes she wont ever see me in again, barring weddings and funerals. Id rather just be me, and hope that she likes me for that.
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