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Posted: 2/10/2007 11:25:46 PM | As many have said…an artist belongs with another artist…or at least a spouse that appreciates the arts. It’s nothing worse than being with a rigid and unsupportive person.
So yes, classism is alive and breathing. | |
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Posted: 2/10/2007 11:31:27 PM |
I think the arts are the only real form of history out there
That is true.
History is preserved by the art of all ages and when you really get into it you are re-creating not just art but life indeed! | |
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Posted: 2/11/2007 12:42:45 AM | | It doesn't really matter if they're artistic or not, but it's just a nice bonus if they are. What really matters is mutual attraction, passive compatibility, and availability. | |
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Posted: 2/11/2007 5:39:23 AM | Artistic beauty in romance is like a canvas, the stroke of the brush,the choice of color,the beauty in the artist as they apply how they feel inside to the canvas,how they look at tomorrows,how they view the other,,yet to appreaciate a charcol sketch has beauty in its own right,,,yet the real beauty is for both to be appreaciated,,shared,,a simple word,,,a spontianeous guesture,,is the brush of choice,,,it matters NOT how well or experienced the artist paints,,,all that matters is the ability,the drive to desire to paint,,,and knws its responded to,appreaciated,returned many fold,,,
Like a gentle,tender carress,,,the thoughts,the warmth,the passion,the desire,the hunger,taste,comminication,sensuality,,,,,,,,,,and you thought of sexuality,,,I was thinking of a sunrise,,,yet one is just as important as the other,as long as the "cook,or artist," share and communicate,,,create,,,,develop,,,,all it takes is artistic ability,,,, | |
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Posted: 2/11/2007 5:57:38 AM | My son is a gifted Artist/Musician and as parents it has taken us a lot of understanding to understand how he looks at life.In his mind creativity is front row centre and sometimes is ability to paint and write and play music is baffling...We are truely blessed as every day is a new day and a new song or picture.
As for relationships he finds it hard to be with girls that ar not driven in their lives...He finds he is never alone as long as he is fulfilling his passion.. | |
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Posted: 2/11/2007 6:09:01 AM | I believe we ALL have special talents to share. I myself am gifted in many areas, words thoughts, gardens, the list goes on. Am I attracted to another with equal gifts, not always, no.
What attracts me is someone who is WILLING to share their thoughts and even dreams. Maybe some just need a little boost to pull out their hidden talents. I am in fact willing to do this, no matter how crazy I might think their idea is, I would help in any way I could to pull that out of them.
If I would have had someone in my earlier yrs. encouraging me to continue my drawings, I would guess I'd be pretty darn good by now. But I didn't so another course was placed in front of me.
I would hope that those who say they are NOT gifted, would reconsider and start testing the waters just to see what you can pull up. Granted there are some, very few, that just don't get it. Maybe it's not having an open mind to see the BIG PICTURE, or maybe it's just plain fear of failure. Who's knows. But what I do know, none of the extremely talented/gifted people got where they are without practice. RIGHT?
Practice long enough at anything, you will get good at it...IMO | |
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Posted: 2/11/2007 8:06:48 AM | | oh yes, arty creative types. Id like someone who appriciates art/creativity though i am more drawn to arty creative types as im quite artisitc and very imaginative myself. | |
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Posted: 2/11/2007 8:15:38 AM | | I believe everyone is artistic if they just tap into that side. Some can sing, some can build, some can decorate, some can write, some can draw, and some can play an instrument. I personally like poetry and to draw but that doesn't decide who i can best relate to...its just one of many interests I have.....I love sports and more of a jock than an artist. I'd say I am most attracted to people who are goal oriented, optimistic, wise, energetic, adventurous and who use their minds to their fullest potential. | |
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Posted: 2/11/2007 8:18:07 AM | I am attracted to logical shy people so I'd have to say no
the logical shy people often find it off putting
that you want to howl at the moon or paint the toilet hot pink just to see if you like it
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Posted: 2/11/2007 8:26:10 AM | It's interesting that like usually attracts like, but with love I don't seek out anyone in particular.
I just see what happens, and now that I think about it...the most miserable relationships I have been in have been with logical thinkers who look down on creativity.
I am all about the arts and expanding myself in all ways, logical thinkers stifle my creativity and I feel like I lose myself in the relationship.
I think we don't necessarily seek out other creative types, but we certainly are happier with them.
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Posted: 2/11/2007 8:33:11 AM | I am attracted to logical shy people so I'd have to say no
the logical shy people often find it off putting
that you want to howl at the moon or paint the toilet hot pink just to see if you like it
then change your mind I think there's a difference between being "artistic" and being "eccentric".
Many people who are creative, can still be logical.
Many artists, poets, and writers may be shy.
There's many people with creative talents who don't "howl at the moon" or paint their toilet and change their mind. (although, some do)
A person may "howl at the moon" or behave irrationally. They may insist that it's because they are artistic or creative. But in reality, it's just their unique or irrational behavior. The most artist or creative people I know, don't behave anymore illogical than most of society. | |
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Posted: 2/11/2007 8:34:49 AM | yeah being a massage and beauty therapist I could not possibly be creative amazing how judgemental some parts of society are
most creative people I know are unique and beautiful in their own way
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Posted: 2/11/2007 2:01:52 PM | With regards to comments about challenging. I'd say that's quite true. I want to be mentally challenged by the person I'm with. There's all kinds of other stuff too.
My longest relationship was with someone who wasn't artistic. He gave me lots of space to be though and he was creative with computers. It worked out pretty well for a long time. | |
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Posted: 2/11/2007 2:26:30 PM | Very nice thread OP <img src=http://www.plentyoffish.com/smiles/icon_201.gif border=0>
I know for myself as a writer that I look for others who are talented with their written words or in speech, for it seems that writers in general seem to be deep thinkers as already stated or simply a little bit more complex to understand our thinking.
My X had no understanding of my mind in the 18 years we were together, and I believe it was simply because he did not have that creative mind whatsoever, so in many ways I was alien to him! 
Now it seems my world is surrounded by those who have that creative mind whether it be poetry or simply writing in general, and for once I find myself to be in my complete element.
As far as artistic talent goes, I have zilch but can very much appreciate someone who does. Now would I be compatiable with an "artsy type?" Hmmmm, I wonder what the difference is in personality between the artsy type and the creative type who lives and breathes words?
In a nutshell , yes I do search out those with intelligence and a creative mind, for I believe it is easier to understand each other.
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Posted: 2/11/2007 2:36:05 PM | Great thread OP :)
I just want to say grrrr on something.....lol
(QUOTE) A person may "howl at the moon" or behave irrationally. They may insist that it's because they are artistic or creative. But in reality, it's just their unique or irrational behavior. The most artist or creative people I know, don't behave anymore illogical than most of society.(UNQUOTE) - {the quote tags messed up when I edited}
What I love about other creative people is they are non judgemental. They are builders and makers...not pickers and takers.
As to logic and art and the old argument of right hemisphere left hemisphere dominant? Most creative people I know also have a much higher degree of both intelligence AND logic. Many hold multiple degrees or doctrates.....but need to create as well. Or drop on for the other.
Creative people tend to be less bound by fear and what others think. Yes they can howl at the moon or paint that toilet seat hot pink....and 5 minutes later change their minds :)
Child like they know how to experiment and have FUN doing it :)
Someone mentioned sex. Yes. Yes. Yes. And I sometimes wonder if the whole fear of judgement, mind and action control, human robot thing comes in here. Like...here is the manual...go do it (with one person) and here are emotions and PASSIONS...come play! to the other.
I have to admit....I get so bored with non creative people. Everything seems to become 'safe' (ugh) and repetetive and like a bowl of grey soup after a while.
I've also noticed creatives romance nature more and spend more time doing things than watching TV. They participate in life rather than being a spectator and waiting for the next set of instructions for their master.
I agree everyone CAN be creative....but it takes overcoming fears to do it. And learning to PLAY again and just have FUN with what you are doing. ok ok there is the agony too. The agony and the ecstacy...its so true.
But the PASSION FOR LIFE and everything in it.....is as essential as breath to me. | |
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Posted: 2/11/2007 2:36:13 PM | , I wonder what the difference is in personality between the artsy type and the creative type who lives and breathes words? That's a good point Wicked.
Maybe I shouldn't have lumped all creative types together???
I've always considered writing and art to all be creative talents, and I quickly grouped all creative talents together in this thread.
But maybe a painter, poet, prose writer, and sculptor, each look at life and relationships differently???
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What I love about other creative people is they are non judgemental you're refering to me as being "judgemental, because I described the self-proclaimed "moon-howler" as irrational?
It was her, (who claims to be an artistic type,) that refered to others as "logical people". So I'm assuming that she already considers herself "illogical"; which to me is the same as "irrational".
Yet I was not intending to judge her negatively. I was just trying to point out that, unlike her, I don't think all artist people behave in a way that's considered irrational.
I know a lady who's an incredibly talented painter, but acts logically. To me: that lady is an artistic and creative person.
"Howling at the moon" just to try to prove you're different, may be one person's idea of creativity, it's not most people's. | |
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Posted: 2/11/2007 2:40:14 PM | Creativity and art is truly in everyone's heart!
I really don't think I can agree with that completely. Over the years, I have turned up many who are completely devoid of artistic talent OR appreciation. A good example would have been my last boss. Great manager, a true humanitarian with an infinite store of compassion but absolutely no aesthetic understanding at all. All you had to do is take one look at his office furniture to figure that out. Never even saw him wear a nice looking tie. He wasn't hostile to creativity or artistry. You just couldn't explain to him the qualitative difference between a Rafael Madonna and a Velvet Elvis.
Creative people seem to be more different than alike. I don't know for sure, but something tells me that two people, each with a burning compulsion to create, would not be a very good match. Each might be better suited to pairing with someone who shows creativity to a lesser degree, just so long as it is not entirely absent. | |
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Posted: 2/11/2007 3:01:14 PM | Yes, I do believe artistic people and ones who are creative through words or thinking would be extremely different. As I have never really interacted with an artistic male in a relationship, I cannot speak as to how their personalities would be, but my brother is a painter and I find he is somewhat withdrawn, reclusive, and a tad moody.....but maybe just him?
I agree with salty towers......those that are creative through mind/words do tend to be more playful, advenuturess, less rigid in what they will experience, and far from anal about anything. The world is an open book to us, and we wish to constantly seek new chapters to fill our minds with. It is an ever constant change for my world, and to live in a stale relationship environment would be as close to killing my spirit as anything could be truly. | |
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Posted: 2/11/2007 3:03:40 PM | OP - no I wasnt judging you
Just to clarify: To create something...means making a something where previously there was a nothing. To take the sum of a number of things...and make a new something. Whether that be words or paints or food or whatever. And take the risk. It might work out..it might not....and it often depends on the persons state of mind/emotions at the time and how in tune they are.
I'm definitely a moon gazer and a star walker. Its where I find my peace and it somehow puts back in place the pieces of 'me'. But I dont have a problem with others who do not. I do however have a problem with people who try to make me just like them. I cant be, any more than they can be like me.
That (I believe) has to do with recognising the uniqueness of each thing and person. Not any one thing in the world is exactly the same as any other one thing. As it should be.
Most of my close friends have an appreciation for the arts in some form, whether that be music or art, sculpture, theatre, writing.....beauty....ugliness.....joy....pain. Its all part of the big picture.
But each of us is so vastly different to the other. None of us have a problem with that, in fact it comes in handy at times when an alternative perspective is needed on something. But none of us criticise any of the others for how they are,,,,,or how they choose to live their life.
If someone wants to howl at the moon, or paint their earlobes purple. Its all good as long as its honest...and what they truly feel in the time.
"Howling at the moon" just to try to prove you're different, may be one person's idea of creativity, it's not most people's.
Exactly! And it doesnt have to be most's..or even some's. It belongs to that one person in that one moment. And thats ok. Its theirs. | |
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Posted: 2/11/2007 3:04:57 PM | Hey magic,
but something tells me that two people, each with a burning compulsion to create, would not be a very good match.
I always wonder about that aspect. Like I wrote early I have heard of it working...but don't know if it is too much of a good thing. That is why I am following this thread.
Its not so much the other party needs to be creative....its more if they can understand and accept the passion.
Understanding the need for quite time.??
Talk everybody. What do u Think??
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Posted: 2/11/2007 3:08:02 PM | Thank God for wonderful articulate beautiful people like salty towers who can express what I was trying to say
by the way howling at the moon was a joke something my children and I do for fun
didnt expected it to be taken so
I wasnt attacking anyone else
logical people intique me and make me wish I was one
so why attack me ??? | |
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Posted: 2/11/2007 3:17:07 PM |  artismypassion
What a great point you have brought in :)
Yeah....me having one of my moments....and the significant other having one of theirs at the same time
Sparks + tinder = RUN FOR THE HILLS!
Tantrums are had. Storms are weathered. Understanding is reached (usually in a short time) and all is forgiven :)
Ya move on......
Passion lives in the 'now' not the 'then'. Whetherthat be the agony....the ecstacy....the being disconnected while you live inside your creation. Its in the now.
Another artistic type understands that. A non artistic type tries to stick a plaster on it and somehow deny the storm or try to change its course rather than understand....its only in the moment. Its merely an expression of the 'emotion of the moment' | |
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Posted: 2/11/2007 3:27:11 PM |
Do you intentionally seek out other artistic/creative people?
I don't, but I think we often end up in the same places, drawn by our interests. For instance, I go to a lot of first-Friday events. Generally, it's only the artistic tytpes that go to those things.
Have you had relationships with artistic and/or non-artisic people? and did you notice a difference in compatability between the two?
Yup, my ex-wife is a software engineer and I have dated a lot of artsy types of chicks. No, I didn't notice much of a difference in compatibility. In a lot of ways, my ex brought out the best in me. We complemented each other quite well and introduced each other to a lot of experiences we would have never otherwise sought on our own. At the same time, when you're with someone who has a lot of the same interests, it gets boring. Maybe it's just me. I like challenges, therefore I like women who are a challenge. | |
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Posted: 2/11/2007 3:28:09 PM | | I honestly don't know, I've spent most of my life around people who didn't really seem to express creative interests. My mother was very creative, but that was about it. I tend to write, work on music, play instruments, sing, -- I'm not creative in as many areas as I would like, but I explore as much as I possibly can. | |
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