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Posted: 3/3/2007 11:14:32 AM | I'm both creative and logical. I think we should all strive to be both.
I don't have tolerance for any person who is on the extreme of either side. I think they're just too much.
Maybe it is about "birds of a feather" and that's why I prefer a man who is both right and left brained, like myself.
But, overall, I believe that whomever it is you are with, that person should complement you.
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Posted: 3/3/2007 11:18:50 AM | I agree with you LBP....as usual, a thought provoking response Sombient.....
I am not sure that I understand the "normal" you are speaking of LBP, but, I understand the idea of ignorance truly being a peaceful bliss to reside.
Sanity for the sake of discovery?, intresting concept. I think sanity is relative to one's individual perception. Artists I have found stand outside of society's general view of normality, and therefore are often ostricized for their idividualism.
Salty said it best, an artist "needs" to create, a pathalogical need to express ones self. It cannot be explained, (yet), it simply excists within us, perhaps a manic need to release where there is no other vessel, either way, it is very liberating, a gift indeed.
I will take this world as it comes, I will see all realitys, I strive to understand all perceptions, and bring them to life within words, I am not sorry that sometimes I am seen as a "freak", I truly do not care....and I mean that.
An artist needs to be with someone that can understand the depth upon which they view this world, someone as themselves, it really does not matter which brain you use, it is an understanding that needs to excist.
Thanx for the site listing Sombient.
Edit:VVV...well said Deco, and true. | |
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Posted: 3/3/2007 11:30:36 AM | Being an artist myself, I do not intentionally set out to find another artistic soul but it does seem to happen more times then not. I have found that being artistic lends itself more to having a passion of your own. It doesn't necessarily have to be artistic, just something that is yours and yours alone. Something that rides above all else for you. Artistic people understand the value of going beyond the box itself. We have to because what we do is not the kind of thing that would bring us the gold watch at retirement. Our passion is our art and it is forever. It does not stop when we stop working. It is a continuation of who we are.
For me personally as an artist, I find that other artists understand this perception better then those who are not artistically inclined. We are all artists in our way and the only difference is that those who practice at the arts have been able to tap into something that steps away from the norm. Compatability can happen with an understanding that what the artist does is of the same importance as what the other person does. It makes relationships difficult when the importance of ones art is viewed as a waste of time. | |
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Posted: 3/3/2007 11:46:13 AM |
I am not sure that I understand the "normal" you are speaking of LBP
Well normal for me..... I am very open to possibilities but having balance in my life is very important to me too. When you are thinking this way, you aren't just ostracized for your individualism but actually withdrawal and things like balance go out the window. It's like going on an intuitive trip where you make such connections it actually changes your awareness.
I quit my job and decided to take some time off to kind of find myself. For the first time in my life, I could just give into it and think...let the thought take me wherever it wanted to. During this period, I would start feeling weak and realize I hadn't eaten in 3 days. I didn't communicate with anyone. I pretty much disconnected from my environment and I did have a lot epiphanies. I don't think I could have explained these to other people though. There was just too much and it was all too connected.
Most thought I was in a serious depression and losing it. They don't feel that way now, or at least don't see me that way anymore. Before this, I was on and off of anxiety medication for years. I haven't had to take any kind of medication like that for years since I did this.
To act on any of these visions you see though is like a life long pursuit. If you already have things you are pursuing, its hard to have this knowledge nagging at you. You feel a bit responsible because you know it but aren't acting on it. If you experience things deeply, this can be very unsettling which is why I see the need for some kind of screen.
I'm even aware its there and I can remove it if I want to. | |
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Posted: 3/3/2007 7:48:47 PM | | It wouldn't matter to me if I had a relationship with a artistic or non artistic. As long as they're cool with what I do, I'm fine with that. I would like to be with someone who would push and inspire to pursue art more passionately. I get into and out of these spurts of creativeness. I wish I could be more consistent. To me, being an artist is like being a writer, somedays you get "writers block" and have to step away from the drawing board. Sometimes you have a vision in your mind and can't get it right on paper. An artists life is dealing with frustration brought on by oneself. Why we're this way? I don't know, maybe fanatical, perfectionists in our own little world? Then I'm away too long from my drawing table. Solitude doesn't help me, but its what a artist has to put up with sometimes. Some company, with some understanding, would be nice once in awhile and be a cheerleader. Its been like that with my friends wanting me to do T-shirt designs - they give me a reason to do art; appreciation for my work. | |
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Posted: 3/3/2007 7:52:37 PM | what ? who goes out seeking to find someone who is also creative? Most of us guys just look for a nice butt. Then, generally we don't care if she can draw or write a novel- we really don't. | |
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Posted: 3/3/2007 8:08:26 PM | | I'm known as being creative but I have long dry spells. Fortunately one ended recently and I'm charged up for doing some majik. Unfortunately it's lonely at the top when the fires ignite those corners of your mind. I've only tried a collaborative creative work twice in my life, one was constant discomfort, the other was a blast. Neither were in a relationship, just friends. To sum up, if you can work at a job with a mate you can probably do art together. Both are full focus events. | |
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Posted: 3/4/2007 1:43:11 AM | It isn't something I look for first in a relationship, but I do find talent attractive. It doesn't have to be what other's would consider a creative talent, one of my guys was super brilliant with numbers and since I'm number-challenged, I found that facinating. Everyone is creative in some way.
Some of the artists I've been with either overwhelm me with their talent, or with their ego. The ones I can co-create with, that is magic. Serious magic! And if it's with a guy who I happen to be attracted to otherwise, hot d*mn! Fond memories of an otherwise not-so wonderful relationship. There is a serious bonding there, and if it's someone you can be romantically involved with it's a total experience.
Sadly, in my youth I have been known to fall for guys with talent and not much else. It can be kind of dazzling, that's why singers have groupies. | |
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Posted: 3/4/2007 2:17:01 AM | Well, I just started dating again last year after waiting too many years for a work- and hobby-aholic to follow through on promises to visit me and move on to a more serious relationship...
The men I have been closest to have usually been creatively talented in one way or another...There was even one man who didn't work out datewise whom I encouraged to follow his creative interests, I hope he did... I even am doing more artistically myself lately, even finished two paintings last year, 1 already found a new home.
I just wish I knew where to find the creative dateable men, but that info seems to have eluded me so far. One of my new friends last year is an artist, he is a friend of another creative man I know. I have also found some musical friends too, sure would be great if I could even just find more creative friends, period. Some of my best memories last year were when I just hung out with other creative friends and just talked. Now they are both dating, and I miss those talks..
But to make a long story short, yes, I do get along better dating someone who is creative, whether he is an artist or in some other creative genre/discipline/field. Yes,we definitely do *get* each other much better than a left brained non creative does. Not that there is anything wrong with them, to steal a phrase from Jerry Seinfeld. It just makes for a more fulfilling relationship.... | |
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Posted: 3/4/2007 10:34:10 AM | who goes out seeking to find someone who is also creative? Some creative people do prefer other creative people.
Most of us guys just look for a nice butt. Then, generally we don't care if she can draw or write a novel- we really don't. But the woman, with the nice butt, if she can draw, or write a novel, may not be interested in you.
Perhaps she wants someone else who can draw or write, or at least a apreciate her ability to draw or write?
She's quite likely not interested in the guy whose idea of clever creativity is typing "look for a nice but " | |
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Posted: 3/6/2007 3:28:27 PM | I've found artistic/creative people to have be higher maintenance emotionally. You know, the stereotypical neurotic-creative artiste. Generalization of course, and not always a bad thing if your personality can balance it out. But just my experience.
Of course, that wasn't really the question was it?
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Posted: 3/6/2007 3:37:24 PM | | I'm a very creative, artistic person. And yes, I find myself attracted to other creative, artistic people as well. But, I've also dated guys who weren't, but they were still interesting in their own way. So, even though that's a good thing to have in common with a potential mate, I don't think it's absolutely necesary. At least not to me it isn't. After all, we're all talented in one way or another I think. Even if not both artistic, they can still be creative as well, or have other talents they can share with you. | |
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Posted: 3/6/2007 3:45:44 PM | | I'm very artistic and creative and i think i feel more comfortable with another that is artistic and creative. but it dosent mean i couldent date or marry a non artistic or creative person.. I have dated them before and really i think it depends on the person. its a person by person thing. | |
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Posted: 3/6/2007 5:19:15 PM | | There is a particular community of artists that I'm attracted to. If there is such a thing as a an ideal of stance, technique, vision, and social contribution toward which one might aspire, I believe it's embodied in this community. (Artists like photographer Robert Adams, for instance, who published in 1981 Beauty in Photography: Essays in Defense of Traditional Values.) I'm always happy to meet people who share my sensibilities and ethical leanings, and who have a similiar sense of an artist's social responsibility. But I've noticed that I'm not attracted (usually) to men who express themselves creatively as I do. I'm good with linguistics, but I'm powerfully drawn to men who are spatial and kinesthetic geniuses. | |
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Posted: 3/6/2007 5:29:03 PM | Well my sweetie is an artistic person in an artistic profession. I'm a businessperson, but funny thing, just being with him has inspired me to write poetry, which I never even attempted before. And honestly, wasn't even ever "into". He's become my muse.  | |
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Posted: 3/6/2007 6:05:15 PM |
Somebody earlier mentioned that the artistic and creative types are sensitive. I agree. They see the beauty of the world ...life, people, nature, love ... They open themselves up to a world of vulnerability that the non-creatives may fear to do all in the name of free spirit and love. That said, I don't think they look for artistic mates but rather someone who sees the beauty of life in all of its imperfections.
This point really stood out to me and describes me personally to a T....so it may not necessarily be that I seek an artistic/creative person but one who allows themselves to flow freely into any new experiences that should come our way....maybe I am just a free spirit ?
I think with this description though, are you not referring to the group of artistic /creative people, wouldn't you agree?
Can non creative people be free spirits, risk takers, and just see life as one big white canvas to splash paint on to create a new story?
Now I am going to go off and think about this.....are the non creative people in my life free spirits?
Most excellent thread OP!! | |
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Posted: 3/6/2007 8:02:09 PM |
Well my sweetie is an artistic person in an artistic profession. I'm a businessperson, but funny thing, just being with him has inspired me to write poetry, which I never even attempted before That's interesting.
I wonder how many other people, have a creative side, which they never used, until they met a creative person, who inspired them?
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If there's many more people, who don't do anything creative, who would if they were to meet the right creative person to inspire them? | |
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Posted: 3/6/2007 8:15:31 PM | "That's interesting.
I wonder how many other people, have a creative side, which they never used, until they met a creative person, who inspired them?"
I think it's interesting, too. I did have a creative "streak", used to draw when I was younger, had music lessons most of my childhood/teenage years. Even performed before...it's just the artistic careerpath never really seemed to be my forte. Even though I've auditioned and won positions in music/vocals before. Something I did more for personal enjoyment. For career, I tapped more into my geek/intellectual "side" and that always worked for me. So maybe it was there, but latent, but honestly the poetry thing.....that was a total surprise to me. I even showed my kids...they were...well they said naw...and yes, I did show them what I wrote and they couldn't believe it. They actually thought it was great!
They laughed because they knew their mom never even liked poetry much...I just know that since I've been with my darling, he really has become my muse. He touched and discovered or even created something within me that never was there before.
I think it's awesome, he does, too and many have enjoyed not what I write but the words that form in my head and I just write that totally come from loving him. It's weird maybe, but I don't even try to create, it's just there.
I think that's totally the definition of what a muse is. If I don't write it down, it pounds out in my head and I can't sleep.
Inspiration is always a beautiful thing, wherever and however it comes. | |
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Posted: 3/6/2007 8:16:14 PM | nope i'm looking to find someonewho is boring, bland and dull dork
whom i can dress up and have tea parties with.
i usually don't relate to anyone...so i tend to enjoy the friendship for what it is
i'm not looking for anyone to be like me...i prefer ppl to be themselves.
so no i don't seek out artist...but if i come across an artist, who likes to cook,looks good in tommy H' boxers, and is a total nerd...i'd be happy.
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Posted: 3/6/2007 8:25:08 PM | | YES! However, creativity isn't enough for me. I once dated a creative guy even though he's quite arrogant. And so now I choose my mates for their entire personality, rather than being impressed by a mere fraction of it. People nowadays seem to be overly impressed by talented, yet mean-spirited artists. | |
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Posted: 3/6/2007 9:29:57 PM | "People nowadays seem to be overly impressed by talented, yet mean-spirited artists." It's only my experience, but that's all we really know anyway, isn't it. My personal experience with artistic, creative people, well it's been totally the opposite. The artistic people I've known realize that artistic talent, as any talent or ability, is a gift, not something that makes them better than anyone else, in fact quite the opposite. I've found the most gifted, talented people are usually the most humble.
I'm sure there are people who've been blessed with artistic gifts who are haughty, mean-spirited and just nasty all around. There are those type of individuals in any field, profession. I'm in the professional field. My peers are degreed professionals, and when I was teaching, fellow professors. Talk about arrogance, pfft....go teach at at a college. I'm not painting any profession with a brush, just sharing my own...granted shock at being on the other end of the desk..so to speak.
There is the norm and there are the exceptions in every profession.
I will say this, all of my encounters with the proverbial artistic type, in any level in any situation...generallly aren't arrogant at all, quite the opposite...actually in my experience, my profession at my level..come with me and meet the people I've been competing only in the sense of submitting resumes...for a position. Pfft...my "competiton" so to speak, is CPAs and lawyers, those who are fighting over their credentials!!
HAA!! It really is amusing to me. I am just as credentially as anyone I work with, and can back it up..not like they didn't check it out before they hired me!!
I've found as a professionally well credtial person, more mean spirited playground, elemtrary schoolyard nana...than I've ever seen in the artistic community.
You want to see it down and dirty and stupid, childish...come to work with me for a week!!! The infighting, the politics and the maniuplation you wouldn't be able to stomach.
I'd rather deal with artists anyday, but that's not my profession. I can deal with and have. And coule deal with the creative, artistic temperment....any day any time. | |
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Posted: 3/7/2007 1:46:31 AM | | (First post yay for me)! Couldn't pass this one up I guess. Personally I don't intentionally seek out relationships with someone who may be more artisticly "inclined" than another. I just like to be with someone who is at least supportive of the fact that I have a great deal of passion for my music, in my case it's music anyway. I was married for 8 years and without even realizing it, over that time period I slowly got less and less motivated to write anything and I virtually gave up my music for far longer than I ever should have. I'm not saying it was her fault by any means, it wasn't, she just wasn't that into music and was never very supportive of mine, probably unaware she wasn't actually, or maybe I just really suck lol. At any rate, I feel that if you can find someone who is at least aware and who can be supportive of your passion/creative side then it's all good. Artists need to be inspired and love is the greatest inspiration of all so they say. I don't need to find a woman to bring an instrument to the table, I just prefer to find a woman who inspires me to write just because of who she is and what she ultimately means to me. | |
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Posted: 3/7/2007 1:58:45 AM | | To answer your question.... NO, NO, NO, NO, and NOOOOO! I am not being rude, but that is silly to me. I am pretty artistic, and it never even dawned on me to seek out someone who is artistic as well. It is hard enough finding some one special... there is no room for being finicky. | |
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Posted: 3/7/2007 2:18:40 AM |
People nowadays seem to be overly impressed by talented, yet mean-spirited artists.
People can be and often are impressed by talented people's work, not neccessarily the persons themselves. To paraphrase the Bible, Love the art, hate the artist...
...now I choose my mates for their entire personality, rather than being impressed by a mere fraction of it
That's the best way. Often it takes a little experience to realise that...
As a creative person myself, I have never conciously sought out other creative people, I have found that we tend to gravitate together, however, the creativity is not always immediately obvious. It's only after knowing someone a while you discover their creativity. | |
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Posted: 3/8/2007 2:04:50 PM | Artistic people:
Do you intentionally seek out other artistic/creative people?
Have you had relationships with artistic and/or non-artisic people? and did you notice a difference in compatability between the two?
No, I do not intentionally seek out others like myself.
I have never had anything more than a friendship with another person who was artistic / creative. I'm not sure if it has anything to do with compatability or just lack of artistic people in my area or in general. I don't mind critique so that's not it either.
Until I saw this thread, I'd never thought about this at all.
IMO I think differently than most people; see things a little differently. Would it make sense to have a partner who is similar? Hmmmm.
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