| How do you tell if your a victim of Racism?
Posted: 2/15/2007 6:11:03 PM | | DAVID YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD DOOD IM SO SICK AND TIRED OF CRAP LIKE THIS POPPING UP EVERYWHERE WOULD IT REALLY MAKE A DIFFERANCE p.s. if you have to ask chances are it wasnt a racist comment. if someone asks someone else if they are bisexual and they say "ewwwww no" does that make them a racist? | |
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| How do you tell if your a victim of Racism?
Posted: 2/15/2007 7:11:33 PM |
It is very annoying when someone asks me that question as well, to some of us people are people regardless of ethnicity,religion etc etc etc.
Exactly, race or religion or whatever has nothing to do with who I date. I don't seek out any one in particular just whoever makes me happy. While I understand not all people think this way, the question is just silly. I've even been on a dating site and messaged someone who was black first and they've still asked me that question. A bit dense? I dunno, I didn't stick around to find out.
Believe me when I say that black men aren't the only ones who ask that question. White men ask black females the same thing!
haha I think it's just men in general  | |
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| How do you tell if your a victim of Racism?
Posted: 2/15/2007 7:27:39 PM |
No ilegion, I do not consider myself a minority because of my gender, that is why I don't check that box. But many people do, and I could take advantage of this sad fact. That was my point, which I apparently didn't make clear. Gender discrimination exists as well as that against race, religous affiliation, sexual preference, etc. Ask most women and I'm sure they have a story or two...
I asked the question because females are not a minoirity just because they are female, unless you live in Alaska or China. Perhaps in some work or social situations, but not just in general because they are female. That was the point I was trying to make. Now gender discrimination is completely different, but it's not the same as saying I'm a minority because I'm a woman." But thanks for a little clarification. | |
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| How do you tell if your a victim of Racism?
Posted: 2/15/2007 7:40:23 PM |
Exactly, race or religion or whatever has nothing to do with who I date. I don't seek out any one in particular just whoever makes me happy. While I understand not all people think this way, the question is just silly. I've even been on a dating site and messaged someone who was black first and they've still asked me that question. A bit dense? I dunno, I didn't stick around to find out.
There are many people who have racial fantasies or curiosities and they tend to view someone of another ethnic group as just some black/white/asian/latin person and not as an individual. I date interracially often and I get asked (and I ask) the question normally to weed out those who may have some hang ups. It has been my experience that just because someone of a different ethnic group will go out with you does not mean they are comfortable around other ethnicities. Some people really are not comfortable around other ethnic groups.
I don't know if WFs have the same problem, but I know many BFs get hit on by guys with a chocolate fantasy. Asking if a person had dated interracially before really does help weed out some of the idiots. | |
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| How do you tell if your a victim of Racism?
Posted: 2/15/2007 9:27:36 PM | | Also realize cedar77 that military veterns get priority over some types of jobs, expecially goverment jobs. They work hand in hand with goverment civilians. | |
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| How do you tell if your a victim of Racism?
Posted: 2/16/2007 12:29:45 AM |
I don't think it is racist. You are just not someone she would go out with...
It may have nothing to do with race... she may not like your profile, or think you are ugly?
He didn't ask if she'd date HIM specifically. The question he asked was if she dates black guys in general. Her answer was 'ewwwww no'
If she had said something like: 'I've never been interested in them. I have nothing against black guys and having them as friends. I just don't find them very appealing.' That would have been different. Some people just aren't attracted to the physical characteristics of some ethnicities (though there is always exceptions. Like not all Eastern Asian men are short), so they aren't typically the type of people they look for to date. Maybe she's racist, maybe she's not. But she is, for sure, a real b!tch.
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| How do you tell if your a victim of Racism?
Posted: 2/16/2007 12:33:57 AM |
if someone asks someone else if they are bisexual and they say "ewwwww no" does that make them a racist?
No, because sexual orientation has nothing to do with race silly. | |
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| How do you tell if your a victim of Racism?
Posted: 2/16/2007 12:37:45 AM |
Also realize cedar77 that military veterns get priority over some types of jobs, expecially goverment jobs. They work hand in hand with goverment civilians.
Military service is something the person actually did, not an "accident of birth"
You CHOOSE to serve in the military... or not.
You just get whatever skin happens to fit. | |
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| How do you tell if your a victim of Racism?
Posted: 2/16/2007 1:43:14 AM | I think we in danger of attaching too much importance to barbie's 'ewwwww no'
yep she definitely has barbie's brain cell, she is a nobody, why dont we just move on | |
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| How do you tell if your a victim of Racism?
Posted: 2/16/2007 4:38:28 AM | | LOL, eww no? T-Gro you didn't laugh? that was funny. Personally racism like that "if it was" can't be taken seriously, it might just be her preference, she might just be one of those "valley girl" paris hilton cut outs that's not into black dudes, don't take personal, just keep moving kid. | |
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| How do you tell if your a victim of Racism?
Posted: 2/16/2007 4:40:50 AM | man it was just a question. This is what i mean: If you were going to play a pickup game of baseball and you have ten gloves 5 left and 5 right handed. You would ask the players which hand they use so you give them the proper glove. ** just a question **
As for you being dropped on you head. anything is possible.
Just a question.. like when you call 411 and they say French or English?
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Joined: 1/11/2007
Msg: 87 | |
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| How do you tell if your a victim of Racism?
Posted: 2/16/2007 9:31:23 AM | T-Gro, I know sometimes this arcane process called "reading"is sometimes difficult, but if you bothered to thumb back a little bit through the thread all I asked you was what does your baseball analogy have to do with a black man asking a white girl out? and now you come back with 5 left hand gloves and 5 right hand gloves for 10 players?
No need to get pissy kid, you cant be upset with me for not having a Veal sandwich when all i offered was a peanut butter and jelly sandwich? | |
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| How do you tell if your a victim of Racism?
Posted: 2/16/2007 9:38:47 AM | OMG ^^^^^^^^^^ thats funny Mr Jackal  
but on a serious note, I get asked that question all the time and bugs me
I seem to get asked that my black men or east indian men alot, my answer is always the same If I like you I like you, if not its not the colour of your skin.
but on the other hand im tired of the race victim crap too, too many folks use there skin colour , or race as a excuse for things
I dont know why she said Ewwwwwww, who knows whats on her mind, she maybe a idiot or prejudice so what who cares and move on Guy. | |
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| How do you tell if your a victim of Racism?
Posted: 2/16/2007 10:07:36 AM | | hi there i know how makes you feel bad if some one just says ewww no, but there is one thing that i like to tell, iam iraqi kurdish live here for afew years, i had many ewwwww no from girls i think they maybe dont like my profile,or having boyfriend,wasting time, i dont feel bad about been refuse from girls because( i didnt tell them do you like to go out with iraqi man?)or a have a date with iraqi man?) my advice is and i always say( do you mind to go out with some one not english? then it means every thing to girls, then they will ask you where you come from which some thing good to start chat with, they can see your foto and profile. iam a white person and i know 80%100 of girls think that iraqi man are not what the girls look for. good luck | |
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| How do you tell if your a victim of Racism?
Posted: 2/16/2007 10:16:17 AM | I think the 'eewwww no' was tactless and unnecessary. Just a suggestion tho to you, If I were looking to date and contacted a lady here, I would ask "would you be interested in a date with me?" . I'm not interested if she wants to date 'guys like me' but just me!
My 2c worth. | |
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| How do you tell if your a victim of Racism?
Posted: 2/16/2007 1:13:28 PM | But...
If he had asked if the gal wanted to date HIMSELF, he would have risked PERSONAL rejection.
By asking the way he asked... he can ALWAYS blame racism for rejection and claim to be a superior being.
Reality need not apply when someone WANTS to be able to claim racism. It is possible to load your questions and end up being able to claim racism no matter how someone replies.
Remember the 3rd grader's trick question::
"Yes or No; Do you still beat your wife?"
If you say yes.. you are a scummy wife beater.
If you answer no, you have admitted doing it in the past, so you're still a scummy wife beater. | |
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| How do you tell if your a victim of Racism?
Posted: 2/16/2007 8:01:04 PM | FredHH very sound logic you are using there, if you can't baffle us with your brilliance you might as well do it with BS right .
"He can always blame racism for rejection and claim to be a superior being" WHAT A LOAD OF HORSE CRAP.
" It's possible to load your questions and end up being able to claim racism no matter how someone replies" anything is possible, why don't you give us a few example of this. Was the OP question one of these examples?
Are you saying there is only one way to look at her answer to his question ? You have totally ruled out the possibility that her answer might be racist?.
You are obviously alot smarter than the rest of us. I have no idea if her answer was racist, none of us posting here does. But you my brilliant friend must have some insight that the rest of us don't have or missed.
The OP asked the question, not because he wanted to scream racist.... But because he thought there is a chance that her answer could be perceived as racist.... He never said he was a VICTIM of racist, he asked "How can you tell if you were a victim of racism?". Obviously there was some confusion on his part, so he put the question to the posters.
I totally agree with him when it comes to the possibility of her being a racist. Maybe she is, maybe she is not. But the question is a very valid one, and i commend him for asking it.
And no amount of voodoo logic can change that. | |
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| How do you tell if your a victim of Racism?
Posted: 2/16/2007 8:17:21 PM | | It is quite possible that she just didn't like the question. Instead of asking if she dated blacks why didn't he ask if she would date him. Playing the race card on every imagined slight detracts from the real cases of racism. | |
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| How do you tell if your a victim of Racism?
Posted: 2/16/2007 9:26:52 PM | | cdnjackal, I could not agree more with most of what you have said. I think much of what you have tried to communicate has gone over some heads. I disagree with your point reguarding affirmative action, as a society we should have evolved, but I don't think we have, at least where I live. Our children have not yet achieved equality in education. If the problem exists because of oppressive attitudes over the years don't we owe it to oue children to give them some kind of opportunity to overcome it. | |
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| How do you tell if your a victim of Racism?
Posted: 2/16/2007 10:08:01 PM | Again... if equality was going to be achieved via "Affirmative Action" (the current program, running since the 1960's) It would have worked by now.
It didn't. Government experiment #1 failed. Trash that one and make a NEW ONE.
Pretty hard to get equality in education when the primarilly white neighborhood has the high price houses and the primarilly black neighborhood has the beat up tennements (exagerated on purpose) and school taxes get based on property values... and the "white school" has a lot of money but the "black school" has none.
Education is the key to getting a decent job. Its possible to get a great education despite a poor school, but the odds are stacked against it.
EVEN WITH affirmative action points... if the minority is simply uneducated he/she is NOT going to be able to hold a job when they get one. (except maybe flipping burgers or feeding KFC's fryer)
So.. we KNOW the system is broke... that means it needs fixing. Defending Affirmative action just perpetuates the use of the placebo rather than looking for the cure.
Note that the trend for minority (and some white) youth to listen to Rap songs which advocate drugs and violence vs police, raping of women and other antisocial behavior doesn't help at all... Tearing down "the man" doesn't work when "the man" can call in armored cars and you have rocks.
I tend to think that people in groups tend to devolve to the conduct of the LEAST socially acceptable. You can see it in bars. You can see it in the RAP music mentality of "gangstas"...
Gangs, gangstas, gang signs pants with the waistband at your knees... just give a bad image. The origin of ALL of these things is CRIME. The baggy clothes became popular because of the ability to hid the stuff you shoplifted. Crime tends to be seen as antisocial.. volutarilly making yourself look like a criminal is asking for a Darwin Award.
People WANT respect. OK.. act respectable. Leave the stupidity to the clueless.
I hated talking to a 8 yr old black kid and hearing him say "PoPo is out to get the black man." That means the poor kid has been brainwashed to be antisocial. The kids can be very nice and polite and articulate... and as soon as the mention of any civil authority comes up they say they EXPECT to be abused by that authority.
If you train the kids to distrust the police... they will. If they distrust the police, they won't treat the police with respect. If they don't treat the police with respect... the police are human and might just slam the kid to the pavement, reinforcing the idea that "popo is out to get the black man."
Its a STUPID vicious circle. | |
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| How do you tell if your a victim of Racism?
Posted: 2/16/2007 10:50:21 PM | You weren't a "victim" of racism. You were a "victim" of free choice just as I would be if a woman was not interested in dating me because I'm 46 years old. It's simply her choice and although she might have been a tad lacking in tact, it was still her choice plain and simple.
Setting aside this game of racial ping pong, the more troubling aspect of this thread (to me anyway) is when one chooses to see their self as a "victim". In doing so one can easily shift responsibility for their own situation to outside circumstances and situations thereby relieving themselves of any culpability for their own poor choices- or at least short sighted endeavors. You chose to contact her. She chose to decline your interest. No "victims" here, merely individuals exercising their freedom and right to choose.
No one ever promised life's highway would be a yellow brick road................ | |
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| How do you tell if your a victim of Racism?
Posted: 2/16/2007 10:51:00 PM |
"her answer was
"ewwwww no"
wtf does that mean?
Means she's not attracted to Black men. Doesn't make you a victim of racism. You have not had any rights violated. You didn't lose your job because of her response. You were not denied access to a public institution.
For all we know she may be racist. But coming across a racist doesn't automatically make you the victim of racism. Or maybe she just hasn't experienced interacting with Black folks.
Whatever the reason, don't sweat it and move on. | |
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| How do you tell if your a victim of Racism?
Posted: 2/17/2007 12:24:40 AM | Bigot \Big"ot\, n. [F. bigot a bigot or hypocrite, a name once
given to the Normans in France. Of unknown origin; possibly
akin to Sp. bigote a whisker; hombre de bigote a man of
spirit and vigor; cf. It. s-bigottire to terrify, to appall.
Wedgwood and others maintain that bigot is from the same
source as Beguine, Beghard.]
1. A hypocrite; esp., a superstitious hypocrite. [Obs.]
2. A person who regards his own faith and views in matters of
religion as unquestionably right, any belief or
opinion opposed to or differing from them as unreasonable
or wicked. In an extended sense,a person who is
intolerant of opinions which conflict with his own, as in
politics or morals; one obstinately and blindly devoted to
his own church, party, belief, or opinion.
AAYUSLASH.....are you a bigot?
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