| Theories on the LOST plot and 'Smoke' Monster
Posted: 5/24/2007 8:45:09 AM | Obviously Locke knew... he wouldn't have knifed a woman in the back unless he had strong reason for doing so! He has to have a better idea than more than just a feeling.
But Locke likes the island and doesn't want to be rescued...
But we will get to see it again I am sure before the season opener next Jan... | |
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| Theories on the LOST plot and 'Smoke' Monster
Posted: 5/24/2007 12:28:57 PM | and she says HE IS WAITING... just makes no freaking sense.
that's gotta be Sawyer who is waiting
The producers' special and Jack's flash foreward reminds me that not everyone will thrive in every situation. They have to adapt or move on, or die off. The island may be paradise, hey it's Hawaii, isn't it? Even paradise gets exploited by developers eventually.
So who was in the casket? Juliet? It had to be her, for Jack to contact KATE
Jacob reminds me of the drugged leader on Star Trek on the planet that emulated 1940s' Germany. | |
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Posted: 5/24/2007 3:54:18 PM | ok, I am not accepting that Charlie died. It is the island of Lost , ya know, LOL.
People to not always stay dead. I do not want that character off the show.
I was thinking possibly the viewing was for the woman that had cancer on the island (Rose , I think) , though I would have thought her husband would have been there, unless he didnt survive the island after-all, and didnt get rescued. She was supposed to die from the cancer, but the island cured her. So makes sense if she left the island then the cancer would have come back.
I thought maybe none of the survivors went to the viewing because they wanted to put the time on the island behind them. I dont think that the rescue was easy, some of the characters may have died before leaving the island.
Also Jack said they shouldnt have left the island. And he was abusing substances. Something else happens before they leave the island. Something that Jack can not face, which is why he is drugging and drinking.
I think next season Jack is going to try to get the surviving survivors to go back to the island with him, and maybe the friends they lost will still be there alive and well.
I know sounds far fetched, but it is Lost, so anything can happen.
My sister thinks they are still on the island and the scene with Jack and Kate was just showing us what it would have been like, back in civilizatin if they had been rescued.
Guess we will not know anything until next season. But the writers are going to no doubt take the time to see the viewers reactions to what they have done so far, and then they may know what comes next. Seems like they write this thing as they go along and they also do not know what is coming next.
If we complain enough about Charlie dieing, then maybe he will come back from the dead, Locke did,.
I loved the part with Hurley, he is the best! | |
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| Theories on the LOST plot and 'Smoke' Monster
Posted: 5/24/2007 4:00:48 PM | "My sister thinks they are still on the island and the scene with Jack and Kate was just showing us what it would have been like, back in civilizatin if they had been rescued."
Forgot to mention the title of that show last night,
"beyond the Looking Glass"
That is why she feels that the rescue never happened.
Like "Alice in Wonderland"
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| Theories on the LOST plot and 'Smoke' Monster
Posted: 5/25/2007 8:25:04 PM | | Let's face it, we won't know squat until the new season starts. I'm putting my brain in "comatose mode" about the show until they start showing commercials about the next season. We'll have to endure at least 6 weeks of teasing commercials about the first show. I don't think Charlie really drowned, I think he was saved at the last minute. Mouth to mouth anyone? | |
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Posted: 5/27/2007 8:02:50 PM | Sorry for the delay in my comments on the season finale. Browser problems.
So... here goes.
Charlie: I like that he did the heroic thing because he really was the heroic sort of person. He was a protector. How he died is simply how I would have expected him to go. He could have run out of the door and then closed it, but he saw that he didn't have the time and Desmond might have died as well. So he did what he had to do. Plus, he gave Desmond the info that it wasn't Penny's ship out there.
I still think his death came at the right time. He had pretty much used up his own story line. A heroic death was called for.
Locke: This guy can't be stopped! Shot and the lose of his legs again, but up and around after only a day or two! I trust Locke. I think he is more in tune with what the "Island" wants than what anyone else wants and that includes both the Others and the Survivors. The idea that he might be Jacob in another dimension is interesting to say the least but until I see some more evidence, I withhold my opinion on it.
Jacob: Thought on this person. Can he be a member of the "Time" Woman's people? Perhaps he is trapped somehow and that is why he is asking Locke for help.
Jack: I like how he finally admits to Kate that he loves her. That was heart wretching to see, especially if what we see in the "flash forward" of his life comes true. I am wondering now if we will be seeing flash forwards from other members of the group in the next season.
The Coffin: Who is in it? Here are my choices.
1. Juliet
2. Hugo
3. Locke
4. Ben
Hugo: I felt so sorry for him when everyone refused to let him help. It just goes to show you that anyone can be a hero and it did my heart good to see him come crashing through the forest in that van!"
Who are the Boat People: Hanzo Foundation! I'm telling you man... they've been looking for this island ever since Ben took over. Remember, Ben said that you couldn't find it if you tried without the right directions on how to get in. So I think he made a new route and closed down the old one, making it almost impossible to find the island again.
Walt: Was it really Walt sending an image of himself as he has done before or was it Smokie? Hmmmm.
Did I miss anything?
I know some of you are losing interest because the show isn't telling you what you want to know. But I still think it's a great show and will answer even more questions next season. I don't think they wasted any time on back stories or personal stories like the feel good story of Hugo and the Van. Those stories help build more character depth. Don't walk away because you're not getting everything at once. It's a series. No answers come quickly. Enjoy the ride!
I think next year we'll see a battle between Jack's people, the Others, and The Boat People. No matter what, I think they'll be off the island close to the end of next season, and then we'll see how they handle things afterward. Sort of like that Tom Hanks movie.
Well, I'll be stopping in to read your thoughts (hands to my head and eyes closed doing so.) Enjoy the summer! | |
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Posted: 5/27/2007 8:03:28 PM | Sorry for the delay in my comments on the season finale. Browser problems.
So... here goes.
Charlie: I like that he did the heroic thing because he really was the heroic sort of person. He was a protector. How he died is simply how I would have expected him to go. He could have run out of the door and then closed it, but he saw that he didn't have the time and Desmond might have died as well. So he did what he had to do. Plus, he gave Desmond the info that it wasn't Penny's ship out there.
I still think his death came at the right time. He had pretty much used up his own story line. A heroic death was called for.
Locke: This guy can't be stopped! Shot and the lose of his legs again, but up and around after only a day or two! I trust Locke. I think he is more in tune with what the "Island" wants than what anyone else wants and that includes both the Others and the Survivors. The idea that he might be Jacob in another dimension is interesting to say the least but until I see some more evidence, I withhold my opinion on it.
Jacob: Thought on this person. Can he be a member of the "Time" Woman's people? Perhaps he is trapped somehow and that is why he is asking Locke for help.
Jack: I like how he finally admits to Kate that he loves her. That was heart wretching to see, especially if what we see in the "flash forward" of his life comes true. I am wondering now if we will be seeing flash forwards from other members of the group in the next season.
The Coffin: Who is in it? Here are my choices.
1. Juliet
2. Hugo
3. Locke
4. Ben
Hugo: I felt so sorry for him when everyone refused to let him help. It just goes to show you that anyone can be a hero and it did my heart good to see him come crashing through the forest in that van!"
Who are the Boat People: Hanzo Foundation! I'm telling you man... they've been looking for this island ever since Ben took over. Remember, Ben said that you couldn't find it if you tried without the right directions on how to get in. So I think he made a new route and closed down the old one, making it almost impossible to find the island again.
Walt: Was it really Walt sending an image of himself as he has done before or was it Smokie? Hmmmm.
Did I miss anything?
I know some of you are losing interest because the show isn't telling you what you want to know. But I still think it's a great show and will answer even more questions next season. I don't think they wasted any time on back stories or personal stories like the feel good story of Hugo and the Van. Those stories help build more character depth. Don't walk away because you're not getting everything at once. It's a series. No answers come quickly. Enjoy the ride!
I think next year we'll see a battle between Jack's people, the Others, and The Boat People. No matter what, I think they'll be off the island close to the end of next season, and then we'll see how they handle things afterward. Sort of like that Tom Hanks movie.
Well, I'll be stopping in to read your thoughts (hands to my head and eyes closed doing so.) Enjoy the summer! | |
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| Theories on the LOST plot and 'Smoke' Monster
Posted: 5/28/2007 6:15:45 AM | I am still digesting it all, but these messages are always so interesting because we all 'see' something different. But this comment wakes me up the most "Jacob: Thought on this person. Can he be a member of the "Time" Woman's people? Perhaps he is trapped somehow and that is why he is asking Locke for help."
That is more truth than I think you even realized when you posted it. Time travel can explain even more of this than we realize and the writers have been slow and careful in revealing this to us. They are clouding it further by using the flashbacks and flash forwards -- such that we don't see that time is more of an integral plot component.
Think abouit it. We recently learned from the parachuter that they all seem dead on the mainland. Yet they are alive and they are not in hell or in limbo so that leaves one of the most likely scenarios -- different time lines.
Perhaps that is what the whole Dharma project is about. Rethink about this -- even the seemingly "pointless" idea of entering in a series of numbers in every 108 minutes would make great scientific data IF TIME itself changes.
Yeah, I think that is it.
I think they won't get off the island next year. I think they will use the seperate time lines and use that to keep them there. I still expect it to go the other way -- another very large flashback, like that of the second half of the plane and the backstory of the others and the guy with the monitors -- I expect them to do another jump like that, including the awareness of more TIME issues and go even further back in time BEFORE the crash.
Yes, it reminded me too of CastAway with Tom Hanks.
On may 17th I said "Was hoping to see Locke come back but I am guessing they will bring him back the last few minutes of the season finale and suspend that over our heads until next season."
Did I hit that nail on the head or what?
Think about this time thing, though. It makes perfect sense with why jacob can't be seen so well -- he is halfway between time lines, maybe. Ditto with smokie. Smokie travels between time lines, perhaps?
Locke's strength could be that he is in more than one time line and he just does not realize that, but Ben does. At least that is one possible take. I guess it shall rest til next season. I really appreciated discussing it with all of you, even if the plot bored me for a few episodes there it has definitely been a fun ride that keeps me thinking. Til next season, then! | |
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Posted: 5/28/2007 10:30:14 AM | Why did I start singing "Brigadoon" after the end of the show???
For those who don't know their musicals, Brigadoon is a story about a lost Scottish village that appears only once every 100 years. The people live in idealic bliss.
Add in a bit of "Lost Horizons" and you have it all.
(In Lost Horizon even people who were very sick recover in time - the old priest didn't know that when he cut off his frost bitten leg.) Hence Lock and the others recoveries.
Perhaps most viewers are too young to remember those sort of stories. Which the writers are probably betting on.
Has nobody thought it may be Sawyer in the coffin? His of all the people would have been the one funeral nobody would have come to except for Jack and Kate. That would explain Kates embarasement at not attending and Jack's guilt that he let down his "friend and rival" at the end when they both needed each other the most. . .
We know from Lock and our our crazy one eyed Russian that it's very hard to kill some people.- Perhaps impossible? Could our "dead" good guys be actually the "other- others" which we have not met yet and Smokie is just going around picking out the "good people" to reserect?
Almost all of our major "DEAD" people have been people who have "redeemed" themselves over the time on the island. | |
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Posted: 5/31/2007 4:15:29 PM | OMG! I found some LOSTIES here! I luv this show! It is the only thing I regularly watch each week, and of course, I have to tape it (I'll get TIVO eventually!.....gimme time.....lol).
I would luv to share some of the many LOST web sites with my fellow LOSTIES, that I have found, since we have now all seen the finale (awesome!) and we have 8 months (not till Jan 2008) to digest what has transpired and what is to come!
Send me a note and I will share. There are some great websites out there! And feel free to share any that you frequent.
See you in another life brotha!
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Posted: 6/9/2007 2:51:49 PM | LOL... I'd reply to you privately, but you've got your sittings set to 75 miles and since I'm in Ohio, I think that's going to keep me from doing that.
And what's this about not being on the air until January? I haven't heard about that.
The "Time" idea also fits in with something else that I thought about what the island really is. I originally said the island was Atlantis (or MU, one of the two) and if I'm right, the time storyline would explain the the mysterious "Giant Foot" statue and how the old ship "Black Rock" got so far into the island!
Oh man! I think we're working this out! LOL! | |
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Posted: 6/9/2007 3:56:55 PM | | I heard somewhere that they had 3 years left on the contract for "LOST", so that's alot of time to confuse us even more. I hope we don't have to wait until January to see the first episode, it was bad enough when they took it off for 3 months this past season. They have alot of story lines to wrap up if it's on for just one more season. | |
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Posted: 6/9/2007 5:13:36 PM | And what's this about not being on the air until January? I haven't heard about that.
Thats what I heard on the today show the morning after the final episode aired...
I could be wrong, but I swear thats what I heard... | |
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Posted: 6/10/2007 3:16:38 AM | luvrgirl609, go ahead and post them! As long as it is not self promotion they seem to be allowed. At least I post websites of my favorite products all the time and never been hassled about it. The only "live" (hypertext) links allowed are PoF ones, so the rest are just manually copied and pasted which is fine.
I briefly checked out the abc forums once and there were a few people who had some really insightful posts but overall I guess I just didn't care enough for them to go back. One troll was littering up the place with his political BS.
I've enjoyed seeing Jimmy Kimmels interviews with the actors of LOST. He had Hurley's character on recently which was good. Jimmy gave him a hard time because his dog had a chiropractor that did house calls! | |
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Posted: 2/1/2008 11:39:57 AM | Ok Lost fans, the new season started last night.
Anyone care to discuss, or make guessing on where we are going to be brought this season?
Now we have yet another group of people.
The ones coming to save the survivors or not to save the survivors of the crashed,
Oceanic flight.
The others , the crash survivors and now the "other" Others,
on the other end of the phone line.
I am soooooo disapointed that Charlie realy died, I was hoping that maybe Desmond broke down the door and got him out, and gave him mouth to mouth.
I know, far fetched but it is Lost, after all.
Also any ideas on what the "Oceanic Six" means that Hurley called himself? Do you think that maybe only six of the survivors were rescued off the island?
And why would Hurley and Jack be two of the six, when they were both in two different groups, when the would be rescuers were to come to the island.
Remember Hurley went with Locke, because of Charlie's dying message.
And he also told Jack he should have gone with him, when Jack came to visit him at the looney bin.
Could Hurley be dead, or is he imagining all these people like he imagined his friend in the nut house, before he went to the island?
Definately more questions than answers , just like always .
Are there as many watchers this season, or have alot of you given up on getting the answers?
Only two seasons left, this one and then one more, I believe. | |
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Posted: 2/1/2008 2:50:40 PM |
But Locke likes the island and doesn't want to be rescued...
But we will get to see it again I am sure before the season opener next Jan...
At least he is being consistent.
Funny to see Charlie get killed and come back to life. Makes me think of your cloning theory, Scryer. Kind of a toss up between that and time travel though I am leaning a little more towards time travel now.
Though both could be going on. Never know on that island. I like how the hour before they set up the whole magnetism thing as being unlocked by the key -- they told us something clearly for a change. Now what it means on a theoretical physicist who is an expert on time travel might know.
The "Time" idea also fits in with something else that I thought about what the island really is. I originally said the island was Atlantis (or MU, one of the two) and if I'm right, the time storyline would explain the the mysterious "Giant Foot" statue and how the old ship "Black Rock" got so far into the island!
It's a secret? Tell everyone! | |
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Posted: 2/4/2008 8:21:14 AM | What if...
The originals have power over time? The White Haired Woman is a time traveler. Perhaps she is part of the Originals?
It could be that they have been manipulating things for some time, even using that "Bug Eyed **stard" to bring events to full fruition. There's alot of them on the island and they've lived there for years as a large community. But after killing off the Darma group, the island is now rejecting them. Their numbers are dropping because they can't have children. So to fix the situation, they are manipulating time to bring about events that will save them. Jake doesn't play will though and eventually finds out he was wrong to leave the island.
Just a thought. | |
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